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Post by stanches2318 on Jul 26, 2020 21:08:16 GMT -5
Is there a specific day when this yrs inductees will be announced?
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Post by rsandcm1 on Jul 27, 2020 1:20:43 GMT -5
With such a backlog of artists from last century yet to be admitted, I wonder how long it will take for artists that have become successful this century to gain entry. It also makes me wonder which artists that emerged in the 2000s will be considered worthy of this honor. Even though acts like (but not limited to) Luke Bryan, Jason Aldean or Florida Georgia Line have garnered awards along with their chart successes, whose careers among 21st Century artists are enduring enough to be Hall of Fame caliber? Luke Bryan, Jason Aldean, FGL, Carrie, Miranda are a lock in someday. The idea of FGL, Aldean, and Bryan in the hall someday makes me sad. I hope once they get to this era of country music (which I pray is not for a long time), that they start going with the independent field of artists instead. I know they won't, but it puts a smile on my face to think of them treating bro-country singers like the baseball hall of fame treats steroid users. Just have enough of a backlog of artists that they can skip over all the bros until the next era of artists are eligible.
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Post by rsandcm1 on Jul 27, 2020 1:22:36 GMT -5
Is there a specific day when this yrs inductees will be announced? No news yet. Still waiting. The only upside to this long of a wait is that by the time they announce this years inductees, we will only be about 3 months away from them announcing next year's inductees, lol.
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Post by dawhite76 on Jul 28, 2020 13:08:28 GMT -5
Chart success and awards are thankfully not the only criteria for admittance to the Hall. I cringe thinking about a substantial percentage of the acts that have emerged this century someday being considered or even gaining entry to the Hall of Fame. After all, when the current Nashville generation becomes the voting population for the Hall, they just might consider undeserving acts like those I mentioned valuable contributors to the history and legacy of country music. I found it interesting that Ken Burns cut off his "Country Music" series in the 1990's. He commented that it is too soon to view the 2000's historically. But, it will be interesting in a decade or more whether he or anyone else will look back with as much reverence and interest for country music of the 21st Century as Burns chronicled for country music of the 20th Century.
So far, the consensus here seems to think Carrie and Miranda will eventually get in. I also can foresee Chris Stapleton getting in as he was a critical success before the public caught on. Anyone else?
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Post by recordyear on Jul 28, 2020 22:31:29 GMT -5
So far, the consensus here seems to think Carrie and Miranda will eventually get in. I also can foresee Chris Stapleton getting in as he was a critical success before the public caught on. Anyone else? Dierks Bentley, Brad Paisley, Kenny Chesney, Taylor Swift. The first two should be quite a bit quicker than the latter two because of connections within industry.
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Post by rsandcm1 on Jul 29, 2020 11:07:06 GMT -5
So far, the consensus here seems to think Carrie and Miranda will eventually get in. I also can foresee Chris Stapleton getting in as he was a critical success before the public caught on. Anyone else? Dierks Bentley, Brad Paisley, Kenny Chesney, Taylor Swift. The first two should be quite a bit quicker than the latter two because of connections within industry. I don't mind those 4 options. Taylor got poppy near the end, but she got out before it got "Shake It Off" levels of pop. And it wouldn't make me too queasy to see Blake get in. He has had more good-to-fair songs than he's had outright bad ones.
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Post by austin on Jul 29, 2020 11:11:15 GMT -5
I think Miranda gets in before Carrie, but that they are both locks.
Luke Bryan, Kenny Chesney and Jason Aldean also seem like locks and I agree about Dierks and Brad as well.
Not sure I agree at all about FGL.
Taylor I do think gets in, especially if she continues to release more folksy/country sounding albums in the future, but a long time from now.
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Post by stanches2318 on Jul 29, 2020 11:25:25 GMT -5
What!! Miranda before Carrie I don’t think so. Look at the number for both. Miranda is not even close to Carrie. Take away the political awards, Miranda is not a Hall Of Famer.
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Post by fisherwoodcu on Jul 29, 2020 11:29:14 GMT -5
I do think Miranda and Carrie will be locks to get in. Miranda’s numbers come from her awards for the most part (which is a whole different conversation), while Carrie’s numbers come from album sales, touring, so on and so forth. I wouldn’t necessarily think Miranda would get in way sooner than Carrie by any means.
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Post by bboat11 on Jul 29, 2020 12:05:27 GMT -5
As long as Martina gets in before both of them, I'll be fine
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 29, 2020 13:34:42 GMT -5
I think it's possible that FGL is never inducted. I really wouldn't be surprised if they weren't. They've been pretty successful, but I'm not sure I see it in the cards for them, especially now that their career is cooling off some recently. What!! Miranda before Carrie I don’t think so. Look at the number for both. Miranda is not even close to Carrie. Take away the political awards, Miranda is not a Hall Of Famer. It'll probably be like close to 2 decades before either gets in, but I could see Miranda potentially beating Carrie out by a few years because sales numbers and amount of #1 hits is not the primary deciding criteria (and Miranda also started her career a little earlier than Carrie). Miranda's one of the biggest industry darlings in modern times. Between the CMAs and ACMs she has like seven Album of the Year awards, and she's the most recognize Female Vocalist of all time. She 100% deserves to be in the CMHoF, honestly more than any of the other 'modern' names being thrown around on the last page.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2020 14:55:56 GMT -5
FGL are definitely a lock! I can’t stand their music but you can’t deny their success in the industry over the last 10 years.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2020 15:09:36 GMT -5
Who gets in first Martina McBride or Shania Twain?
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Post by stanches2318 on Jul 29, 2020 15:35:59 GMT -5
Who gets in first Martina McBride or Shania Twain? It should be Shania before Martina, but it may be awhile for both because Crystal and Tanya aren’t in yet.
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Post by bigd79 on Jul 29, 2020 15:49:05 GMT -5
With such a backlog of artists from last century yet to be admitted, I wonder how long it will take for artists that have become successful this century to gain entry. It also makes me wonder which artists that emerged in the 2000s will be considered worthy of this honor. Even though acts like (but not limited to) Luke Bryan, Jason Aldean or Florida Georgia Line have garnered awards along with their chart successes, whose careers among 21st Century artists are enduring enough to be Hall of Fame caliber? Luke Bryan, Jason Aldean, FGL, Carrie, Miranda are a lock in someday. I would add Keith Urban, Brad Paisley, and Eric Church to that list as well
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Post by bboat11 on Jul 29, 2020 17:09:02 GMT -5
Who gets in first Martina McBride or Shania Twain? Great question! I think I'll give the edge to Martina. And not just because I'm a huge fan. If you really think about it, out of all the ladies to come from the '90s, she has had the most well-rounded balance of mainstream success, vocal talent, longevity, awards hype, touring hype, behind-the-scenes industry impact (just about everybody records in her and her husband's recording studio nowadays, and she's constantly performing on the Opry and in tribute performances, for example), etc. I think that well-rounded perception will help her to be one of the first people from the '90s to make it in. Somebody like Shania, and I'll throw in Faith alongside her, might be slightly less of a priority because they had their period of success, and then they fell off the face of the planet. Their long-term legacy is based on a smaller period of time. I think the first wave of '90s artists to make it in will include the likes of Tim McGraw and Kenny Chesney, and while there were no ladies that were close to their level, Martina is indisputably the one who has maintained a successful career the longest. If they want to maintain a facade of equality, she might get in alongside them. I think a lot of her peers will get in after her for the same reason that somebody like Mark Chesnutt will probably get in after Tim McGraw.
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Post by rbundy1987 on Jul 30, 2020 20:08:13 GMT -5
Closed to public now through August 31st. Just announce the new inductees, COME ON CMHOF!!!!
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Post by recordyear on Aug 12, 2020 7:35:19 GMT -5
This year's inductees: Dean Dillon Marty Stuart Hank Williams Jr.
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Post by kallie on Aug 12, 2020 7:54:02 GMT -5
Happier with the inductees this year than I was last year. Though Tanya should have been on the list.
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Post by someguy on Aug 12, 2020 8:21:57 GMT -5
Happier with the inductees this year than I was last year. Though Tanya should have been on the list. I’m really disappointed not to see Tanya on the list. I really felt that this was her year.
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Post by stanches2318 on Aug 12, 2020 8:25:52 GMT -5
Happier with the inductees this year than I was last year. Though Tanya should have been on the list. I’m really disappointed not to see Tanya on the list. I really felt that this was her year. I think her problem is the same as Crystal Gayle. I Dont know why these two cant get in.
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Post by castleoblivion26 on Aug 12, 2020 10:50:16 GMT -5
I feel like they should expand the inductees list to 2 for Modern Artist and 2 for Veteran artist. Or maybe come up with a new category for artist from the late 80s to early 2000s as it has now been 20+ years since, so they shouldn't be considered Modern.
That being said Dean Dillan and Marty Stuart both absolutely belong in the Country Music Hall of Fame so I'm happy they are both in this year! Will never be a fan of Hank Williams Jr cause of how homophobic he is but he does belong as well, just don't care personally
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Post by rsandcm1 on Aug 12, 2020 11:54:59 GMT -5
I, for one, am absolutely thrilled to see Hank Williams Jr. get in the hall finally. Has he said some horrible, offensive things? Yes. But, career wise, he has been more than deserving of an induction for over 30 years. (And to give it the year his daughter died should be a small bit of uplifting news for him).
Tanya would have been nice too, but the announcement for 2021 is now only 7 months away. Maybe she'll be able to stay on people's minds until then.
Marty and Dean were also nice surprises. It is nice that Connie Smith is still around to see Marty get in.
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Post by dawhite76 on Aug 12, 2020 14:18:37 GMT -5
I hope Marty Stuart is sending a thank you note to Ken Burns. His contributions to the "Country Music" docu-series clearly paved his way into the Hall this year ahead of others who are long overdue for entry. Marty is deserving in his own way - more as a preservationist than as an artist...just not so soon.
Why are there no women on this year's list? I suppose the progress being made at Country radio by women didn't resonate with the Hall where so many deserving women (Tanya, Crystal, Patty, Judds, Kathy, Alison, etc.) remain on the outside looking in.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2020 16:17:15 GMT -5
I hope Marty Stuart is sending a thank you note to Ken Burns. His contributions to the "Country Music" docu-series clearly paved his way into the Hall this year ahead of others who are long overdue for entry. Marty is deserving in his own way - more as a preservationist than as an artist...just not so soon. Why are there no women on this year's list? I suppose the progress being made at Country radio by women didn't resonate with the Hall where so many deserving women (Tanya, Crystal, Patty, Judds, Kathy, Alison, etc.) remain on the outside looking in. There is definitely a lot of politics that go on behind the scenes with the CMHOF. I could name 10-15 artist that are way more deserving to be in before him. Marty is also only 61, lots of artist 70+ I’d like to get in while they are still alive.
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Post by McCreerian on Aug 12, 2020 16:45:33 GMT -5
In 2021 it'd be nice to see a woman's year. Tanya for the legend and Shania or Judds for the modern.
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Post by stanches2318 on Aug 12, 2020 20:46:36 GMT -5
In 2021 it'd be nice to see a woman's year. Tanya for the legend and Shania or Judds for the modern. I agree on Tanya. I would definitely be happy with Judds.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Aug 13, 2020 1:49:33 GMT -5
I'm very happy with this years induction choices.
Dean is an amazing writer who just feels like a legend without ever truly being in the spotlight himself. Wonderful to see!
Marty is getting in ahead of some people who have better stats than him for sure, but his contributions to the genre are immense and I knew he'd be in sooner rather than later. Plus all the work he's done in preserving artifacts and traditions will forever be felt in the history of the genre. For the eligible modern artists I only truly feel Dwight Yoakam should've been ahead of him. I'd have even had him in before Brooks & Dunn.
Hank Jr. I grew up with his music, never was a personal favorite and then given his personal views I've always had trouble with enjoying him...but as someone who loves the genre and the history behind it he needed to be in and I'm glad they finally felt it was time. Jerry Lee Lewis remains the other who also had some controversy but deserves a spot, so I'm hoping with Hank in now they can get Jerry in soon.
I do believe Hank Sr. & Jr. become the first family members inducted who didn't perform together as an act. Hopefully opening the door for Rosanne Cash, Crystal Gayle and others in the coming years!
I'd like to see Tanya or Jerry Lee Lewis next year for the Veteran. Dwight or The Judds for Modern. Rose & The Maddox Brothers also for Veteran but I think they're going to be held off for another few years unfortunately.
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Post by tim on Aug 14, 2020 3:27:34 GMT -5
I'm just ecstatic seeing both Marty Stuart and Dean Dillon entering the Country Music Hall of Fame! Just as coffee needs a cup there really is no George Strait without Dean Dillon. I could try and write an entire article about why he should be in the Hall of Fame, but Trigger from Saving Country Music pretty much put it best in his George Strait Sang It. Dean Dillon Wrote It article. As for Marty Stuart I very much grew up with his music and he is just as much influential if not more than Travis Tritt during their heydays in '90s country. "Western Girls", "Hillbilly Rock", "Tempted", "Little Things", and "Burn Me Down" are only a handful of songs that influenced my youth and then some. I only recently had the opportunity to see him live a couple of summers ago when he opened for Chris Stapleton here in Austin and that is one memory that I'll never forget...I'm just sad that he couldn't have performed for more than an hour lol. And it goes without saying that this honor for Hank Williams, Jr. has been a long time coming. He was one of the biggest country artists of the mid to late '80s who had a string of hits of which "Country State of Mind", "All My Rowdy Friends Are Coming Over Tonight", and "Born to Boogie" remain some of my favorites. I'm also a big fan of his daughter Holly Williams as well as his up and coming son Sam Williams who has such an amazing and distinctive voice (he most recently opened for Cam during her European tour). I'll only add that it's a bit disappointing that all of the honorees are male...it would've been great if they could've expanded it out this year to include four and at least one female artist/songwriter. For that I feel like they kind of missed the mark. With that said, I very much expect to see Tanya Tucker included in the next round of Hall of Fame honors for 2021 as it would be an incredible shame if the CMA didn't,
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Post by davidcountry on Aug 14, 2020 12:59:50 GMT -5
In 2021 it'd be nice to see a woman's year. Tanya for the legend and Shania or Judds for the modern. I agree on Tanya. I would definitely be happy with Judds. Other two ladies missing as well. Juice Newton and Anne Murray Anne Murray was the lady with a lot of top charting hits starting in the 70s. Shania sold more albums, but Anne got the most radio hits.
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