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Post by Caviar on Aug 12, 2014 20:56:22 GMT -5
It's an OK video but it did make me like the song more.
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Post by Lahey's Lucky Star on Aug 12, 2014 21:13:44 GMT -5
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Post by JamaicaFunk² on Aug 12, 2014 21:28:31 GMT -5
Ugh, a big reason people like Ariana is because she can actually sing and doesn't need to be part of the gimmicky side of the last 15 years of pop music. Here she is, though. She needs to separate herself from the Katy Perry's of music.
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Post by surfy on Aug 12, 2014 21:30:59 GMT -5
Ugh, a big reason people like Ariana is because she can actually sing and doesn't need to be part of the gimmicky side of the last 15 years of pop music. Here she is, though. She needs to separate herself from the Katy Perry's of music. But why can't she do both. She's proven she can sing multiple times, and now she's having a little fun. When she is serious, you guys call her boring and say she has no personality, when she's funny in a video, she's called generic and is compared to Katy (ew no.) Can she do anything to please you h8ers?
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Post by Joe1240 on Aug 12, 2014 21:33:16 GMT -5
Good music video.Ariana looked like she had a great time making this video.
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Post by Green Baron on Aug 12, 2014 21:33:48 GMT -5
Ugh, a big reason people like Ariana is because she can actually sing and doesn't need to be part of the gimmicky side of the last 15 years of pop music. Here she is, though. She needs to separate herself from the Katy Perry's of music. Can she do anything to please you h8ers? Yes.
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Post by surfy on Aug 12, 2014 21:34:34 GMT -5
Can she do anything to please you h8ers? Yes. What?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2014 21:40:08 GMT -5
I can totally get why this isn't for everyone, but criticizing her for doing something simply because it was camp and pretending like that's somehow going to hold her back seems... incredibly off base? It might be your own opinion that she's "above" that, but god forbid a 21 year old woman have a little fun without alienating her still very young fanbase. My only real beef here is that there could have been more to it, but as I said: she still has to worry about her core audience.
This is definitely a step in the right direction though.
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Post by Lahey's Lucky Star on Aug 12, 2014 21:42:27 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2014 21:47:00 GMT -5
OMFG. Video. Of. The. Year. <3 <3 <3
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Post by Pink Pvssy on Aug 12, 2014 22:01:50 GMT -5
I love the song but I can't even finish watching her video. Too boring for me.
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Post by Hussy on Aug 12, 2014 22:10:15 GMT -5
although i'm not that much into Galactic themes in videos, i kinda like it here at least Ariana looks STUNNING <3
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2014 22:13:45 GMT -5
It looks like she blended No Scrubs, Oops and California Gurls in a blender and bam we got a video. It's campy as fuck but I liked the breaking free concept throughout the video. It was decent. The song is still meh.
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Post by Ginger Spice on Aug 12, 2014 23:16:24 GMT -5
It looks like she blended No Scrubs, Oops and California Gurls in a blender and bam we got a video. I disagree. "No Scrubs" (which was based on Michael & Janet's "Scream") only shares the futuristic theme with this at most. I can see the "Oops" comparison (which MuuMuse actually wrote an article about), and they share the whole camp video in space, but even still, it's been done just beyond these two videos. "California Gurls" again, only really shares the camp value. I thought the video was cute, but there was something awkward about it. Like I was hoping to find it sexy and fierce (like a dance sequence or something), but I didn't really get either of those vibes, mostly just camp. However, it made me like the song even more and I'm totally on board with Ariana this era. Actually, this part is pretty fierce and sexy.
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Post by Green Baron on Aug 12, 2014 23:22:28 GMT -5
she is sooooooooo hot
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2014 23:33:42 GMT -5
It looks like she blended No Scrubs, Oops and California Gurls in a blender and bam we got a video. I disagree. "No Scrubs" (which was based on Michael & Janet's "Scream") only shares the futuristic theme with this at most. I can see the "Oops" comparison (which MuuMuse actually wrote an article about), and they share the whole camp video in space, but even still, it's been done just beyond these two videos. "California Gurls" again, only really shares the camp value. I thought the video was cute, but there was something awkward about it. Like I was hoping to find it sexy and fierce (like a dance sequence or something), but I didn't really get either of those vibes, mostly just camp. However, it made me like the song even more and I'm totally on board with Ariana this era. Actually, this part is pretty fierce and sexy. Thats kind of why I mention the fan base. She's still treading the line of what is socially acceptable and what isn't with a younger audience, but compared to last era, visually, this is a step in the right direction. I'm not expecting anything truly epic from her until her next album (her 'Slave' moment will be EPIC).
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Post by Green Baron on Aug 12, 2014 23:42:42 GMT -5
Slave...
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Post by slayZ on Aug 12, 2014 23:50:10 GMT -5
For me, it's not about the camp, it's the fact that it was so poorly executed. She could definitely do camp, she could be visually endearing and try new things, I don't think the complaints are coming from that angle, the execution was just way off and instead of coming off as "camp," it came off as cringe-worthy in my opinion. She'll never have a "Slave" moment, not because of her fan base, but simply because watching her try to be sexy will never not make people uncomfortable because of her frame. She looks perpetually twelve. It wouldn't even be a lolita moment, it would probably look like child pornography and at this point, I doubt she'll be developing any further. Hair and make-up can only do so much when your frame is so small.
With the clear evolution of her music, the direction of where they're going in the future is pretty clear, I just don't know if they'll ever be able to pull it off aesthetically and visually. She can get all the radio hits she wants, but I doubt she'll ever be a video artist or manage to get any kind of attention that might have come from her looks, which puts her at a disadvantage from a Pop star point of view. Not to mention, she's horribly stiff and awkward on stage AND on her videos. I stan for her music and work, but she's severely lacking in every single department that doesn't have to do with vocals IMO and the more videos/performances she does, the more it shows.
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Aug 12, 2014 23:52:59 GMT -5
(her 'Slave' moment will be EPIC). Will it tho? She's too awkward to make it epic.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 0:57:12 GMT -5
(her 'Slave' moment will be EPIC). Will it tho? She's too awkward to make it epic. I think some of the cheesey action scenes were akward, but I didn't see any part of this video-- namely the parts with the close ups and the strip-tease-- that made me think she herself was awkward; and as long as she can look hot and work an angle (which she clearly can) she should be fine. She just needs to work around the fact that she can't do choreo, which this almost accomplished. It's a step in the right direction. Even Britney had to shed the "I'm an innocent teenage girl" look eventually, and at the time that actually was pretty shocking. So, yeah, I think she can pull it off. Her juvenile tendencies at this stage in her career do not indicate awkwardness, and even if there was some magically objective way to determine her "awkwardness" the general public is still gobbling up what she's serving like it's a hot turkey dinner on Thanksgiving.
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Post by stanr on Aug 13, 2014 1:01:06 GMT -5
she looks stunning! yes kunt, I'm excited for her "SLAVE" moment
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 1:07:30 GMT -5
As an aside, we need to stop pushing these boundaries of what she can and can't do as a visual artist because of her physical appearance. Let's not go enforcing the "expectations of women" on her, please. I see that a lot here (and elsewhere) and it's silly to say that she can't be sexy. Hell, half of the comments in this thread thus far have been "omg she looks hot!!!!!!" Can we let her have that? I understand from a business perspective that her pulling a "slave" would be jarring for the public because they do think that way regardless, but people seem to forget that the exact same thing happened with Britney.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 1:22:14 GMT -5
The song is trash but she looked fine as hell in the video and not in a weird Lolita way so hats off to her.
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Post by slayZ on Aug 13, 2014 1:36:39 GMT -5
I understand from a business perspective that her pulling a "slave" would be jarring for the public because they do think that way regardless, but people seem to forget that the exact same thing happened with Britney. But Britney looked like this at the age of 19. Ariana Grande looked like this at 19. There's really no comparison. At all. She physically looks like a kid, she's barely 5'0. It's not really a "boundary" placed upon her, she can try to be sexy all she wants, it'll just feel uncomfortable. Britney successfully pulled of the lolita image because of how easily she could transform into a more mature looking woman by simply wearing a crop top or by exuding sex appeal on stage. Ariana doesn't have sex appeal on or off the stage and genuinely looks like a little girl awkwardly playing dress up.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 2:27:17 GMT -5
My love for the song has blown the rooftop. Literally, as my speakers are blasting it to the max as I play the video over and over.
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Post by Rocky on Aug 13, 2014 4:41:08 GMT -5
CUTEEE! The things coming out of breasts joke is always funny, the intergalactic party is too cute.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 5:11:27 GMT -5
Most of you may not remember this as you are very young, but this just reminded me of a Japanese cartoon I used to watch when I was a kid, called Mazinger Z. Robot Aphrodite A used the same missile system. According to Wikipedia, it's called "the Oppai Missile System (Oppai is a Japanese slang term for breasts). Aphrodite was the first female mecha to have this kind of weapon." Attachment Deleted
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Post by Az Paynter on Aug 13, 2014 5:39:42 GMT -5
POP: 12 11 ARIANA GRANDE Break Free f/Zedd 8305 7769 536 52.156
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Post by Rhythm Nation on Aug 13, 2014 6:16:53 GMT -5
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Post by Az Paynter on Aug 13, 2014 6:20:09 GMT -5
...have you not heard of Barbarella? Jane Fonda did it first.
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