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Post by dm2081 on Aug 22, 2014 0:09:20 GMT -5
Well it looks like if this song is going to be a big hit, it's going to take another 30+ weeks to do so, much like Justin's other singles. This song had a high debut, but has just been staying afloat in the 30's without gaining much audience at all. I think his label might have to work extra hard to get this one up the charts. I'm wondering if maybe a Motley Crue cover is just a little too overwhelming for radio? I know FGL killed it with "Stay", but Black Stone Cherry was such an obscure band that I doubt many even realized that was a hard rock cover. Anyways, I would really like to see this one take off soon. Perhaps once "Small Town Throwdown" peaks this one will gain some more traction.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Aug 22, 2014 0:28:14 GMT -5
I don't like this at all. I'm kinda surprised that some have implied that this is the song to showcase that he has a lot of potential as a vocalist, because I feel like it's the opposite for me and he's turned in better performances in the past. I don't care for his vocals on this at all and it just comes across as a really boring, generic song imo when it comes on the radio. It just doesn't stand out to me at all, much like "Til My Last Day" (which surprised me when it went all the way to No. 1 because it was one of the most basic songs I've heard).
He's been hit-or-miss as far as singles go (don't own any of his albums so idk about the ones that didn't see a radio release), but "Small Town USA," "If Heaven Wasn't So Far Away," and "Lettin' the Night Roll" for me >> this tune. It still seems like a rather strange choice to put this out instead of one of his own songs, but maybe that's just because I don't care for it, and for other people it will work. But for the remainder of this one's chart run, I'm most likely going to be changing the station instead of turning it up like I did for "Lettin' the Night Roll."
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Post by onebuffalo on Aug 23, 2014 7:53:03 GMT -5
I don't like this at all. I'm kinda surprised that some have implied that this is the song to showcase that he has a lot of potential as a vocalist, because I feel like it's the opposite for me and he's turned in better performances in the past. I don't care for his vocals on this at all and it just comes across as a really boring, generic song imo when it comes on the radio. It just doesn't stand out to me at all, much like "Til My Last Day" (which surprised me when it went all the way to No. 1 because it was one of the most basic songs I've heard). He's been hit-or-miss as far as singles go (don't own any of his albums so idk about the ones that didn't see a radio release), but "Small Town USA," "If Heaven Wasn't So Far Away," and "Lettin' the Night Roll" for me >> this tune. It still seems like a rather strange choice to put this out instead of one of his own songs, but maybe that's just because I don't care for it, and for other people it will work. But for the remainder of this one's chart run, I'm most likely going to be changing the station instead of turning it up like I did for "Lettin' the Night Roll." I think Justin Moore's song off the tribute CD was picked because it is the most marketable song off the CD. I liken this situation with the Eagles tribute CD of 1993. They picked Travis Tritt's version of Take It Easy and it almost became a top twenty hit (#21). Once his vocal collaboration with Brantley Gilbert and Thomas Rhett peaks, the only thing left to play as far as Moore is concerned would be Home Sweet Home. Tribute CD news: www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6229139/motley-crue-tribute-album-chart
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 11:03:21 GMT -5
I don't like this at all. I'm kinda surprised that some have implied that this is the song to showcase that he has a lot of potential as a vocalist, because I feel like it's the opposite for me and he's turned in better performances in the past. I don't care for his vocals on this at all and it just comes across as a really boring, generic song imo when it comes on the radio. It just doesn't stand out to me at all, much like "Til My Last Day" (which surprised me when it went all the way to No. 1 because it was one of the most basic songs I've heard). He's been hit-or-miss as far as singles go (don't own any of his albums so idk about the ones that didn't see a radio release), but "Small Town USA," "If Heaven Wasn't So Far Away," and "Lettin' the Night Roll" for me >> this tune. It still seems like a rather strange choice to put this out instead of one of his own songs, but maybe that's just because I don't care for it, and for other people it will work. But for the remainder of this one's chart run, I'm most likely going to be changing the station instead of turning it up like I did for "Lettin' the Night Roll." You nailed my thoughts on this, (and Justin Moore), exactly, Jordan This just doesn't feel genuine to me, and the style of Justin's vocal just makes it feel like they tacked on a Country singer and called it a day. I think you've got to be careful with any remake of a classic, and you have to make it your own, otherwise it just feels unneeded. With all due respect to Justin, I think his voice is so unique it only really works within his wheelhouse. This just feels awkward.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Aug 24, 2014 14:02:21 GMT -5
You nailed my thoughts on this, (and Justin Moore), exactly, Jordan My name is actually Nick. When I had Jordan in my username for awhile this summer it was for a character I was representing in a game in another part of the forum.
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Post by carriekins on Aug 24, 2014 14:06:09 GMT -5
You nailed my thoughts on this, (and Justin Moore), exactly, Jordan My name is actually Nick. When I had Jordan in my username for awhile this summer it was for a character I was representing in a game in another part of the forum. I thought I was going nuts. LOL. As for this song, you nailed my thoughts on it as well. I don't find it to be very good at all. It feels awkward.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 14:36:35 GMT -5
You nailed my thoughts on this, (and Justin Moore), exactly, Jordan My name is actually Nick. When I had Jordan in my username for awhile this summer it was for a character I was representing in a game in another part of the forum. Ah, geeze, sorry Nick
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Post by someguy on Aug 26, 2014 22:44:43 GMT -5
I'm surprised at how slowly this is moving, considering how it debuted so high (inflated debut or not). This past week has been one of its strongest, but I thought that this would be approaching the top 20 by now, and not the top 30. I would assume that they are finished releasing from Justin's album, because if this takes 30+ weeks to peak, it would make no sense to go back to Justin's album to release another single after that.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 22:22:04 GMT -5
This song gained 2.346 million in audience, 159 spins, and 490 points on Mediabase this past week, but on Billboard (where it lost its bullet), it lost 15 spins and 210k in audience. Now, I knew the 2.3 mil audience gain on MB had all come from Westwood One's Mainstream Country satellite station (and therefore I wasn't expecting this song to gain anything on BB), but it's still really odd that there was such a discrepancy in spins, as the W1 airplay was based off of only about 25 spins there. The tracking weeks are different (MB is Sunday thru Saturday, BB is Monday thru Sunday), though, and that was enough to cause the difference here. On the August 31 MB update (which is the same as the published MB chart in tonight's Aircheck), "Home Sweet Home" had a bullet of +159. But in yesterday's Sept 1 MB update, Justin lost 71 spins and his 7-day bullet fell to -7. And therefore since yesterday's update was the last for the BB week, it's understandable that his BB bullet is -15, given that he lost 7 spins in the same 7-day timeframe at MB.
So there is an easy explanation here, but it's just really odd how this one had 2 completely different results on MB and BB this week, simply from one update that counted for tonight's BB chart, but was the first in the new MB week.
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Post by someguy on Sept 22, 2014 21:40:24 GMT -5
This is in serious trouble now. It's on its second consecutive bulletless week on the Billboard chart, and will go recurrent next week if it doesn't bullet. It could be in Valory's best interest to let this go, and try to push something from Justin's album (or just take a break and come back with a lead single early next year).
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Post by dm2081 on Sept 22, 2014 22:13:42 GMT -5
Yeah I noticed this song has been struggling lately, or honestly pretty much since it's debut week, which was inflated to begin with. It seems like songs being released from non full artists albums are struggling to climb the charts these days. I think there also has been so much congestion above this song on the charts, and with the Motley Crue tribute album already being out for a month (A very novelty release) I think the initial excitement about this song (if any) has waned. I think a 3rd single from Justin's last album wouldn't do much on the charts, so they're probably best off by getting this song as high up as they can, and then taking a break before the next album cycle.
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Post by Kentucky25 on Sept 23, 2014 9:58:51 GMT -5
I hate that this song has killed Justin's momentum, there's still a couple songs on his album that I feel deserve to be released. I still think "Old Habits" would've been a smash hit, if Lambert hadn't already had two popular duets this year. I also loved "Wheels", not sure it'd be a big hit though. Shame really.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 14:39:35 GMT -5
This is in serious trouble now. It's on its second consecutive bulletless week on the Billboard chart, and will go recurrent next week if it doesn't bullet. It could be in Valory's best interest to let this go, and try to push something from Justin's album (or just take a break and come back with a lead single early next year). While I agree that this one is in definite trouble, it maintained its bullet on Mediabase so I don't really think Valory will care if it winds up not re-bulleting on Billboard. As much as I prefer the Billboard chart to Mediabase, the labels don't really seem to acknowledge the Billboard chart all that much anymore, unless they get a 2nd or 3rd week at #1 there compared to just 1 or 2 weeks at #1 on MB (think the ads from Capitol touting "Play It Again" as a 4-week #1 for Luke Bryan despite only 2 weeks #1 at MB, or Red Bow's ad touting "Yeah" as a 3-week #1 for Joe Nichols). Almost all of the #1 pushes nowadays run from Sunday through Saturday, which correlates with the Mediabase tracking week, and then we see songs lose audience on the Monday morning update already regardless of the fact that an extra day of pushing could have meant at least a Billboard #1 (even if they didn't get there on MB). Anyway, my point is that Valory still has some time to revive this since it can't go recurrent on Mediabase for at least 3 weeks yet. But it is definitely floundering and despite some pretty strong sales (compared to other songs with similar airplay levels), it doesn't seem like it's going to be able to "cut through the pack" especially given that we have new releases from Brad, Darius, Tim, Eric, Dierks, and Kenny. In addition, Justin is also competing with a lot of other B & C-level male artists who have songs that, so far, radio seems moreinclined to play: David Nail's "Kiss You Tonight" is picking up steam despite a slow climb into the top 25, Warner Bros. is aggressively pushing both Hunter Hayes and Dan + Shay, EMI is working Brothers Osborne's breakthrough "Rum", Randy Houser's "Like A Cowboy" is one of the more traditional options for stations to balance their playlists, Brett Eldredge, Thomas Rhett, and Lee Brice all have quite a bit of momentum as well as distinguishable new singles, Jake Owen and Chris Young have offered some more traditional fare, and we also have new releases from Joe Nichols, Easton Corbin, and Josh Turner. There's been a lot of discussion about the lack of females on country radio (and deservedly so--it's an important topic), but another "problem" that creates (if you can call it that) is that there is a huge abundance of male artists now and it's hard for them to stand out (there was a big article about this on the front page of last night's BCU). Generally I think Justin has done a fairly good job at standing out but this time that doesn't seem to be enough, simply because radio seems to be focusing more on some of the other males right now. "Home Sweet Home" is a cover and sort of a random single choice, and it just seems like it's getting lost in the shuffle among all the other songs by male artists.
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 23, 2014 14:54:14 GMT -5
^ I agree wholeheartedly.
It does seem like such a simple reasoning, but Justin's song is definitely getting lost in the shuffle because it doesn't stand out enough. You couple in the new singles from the heavy hitters, and its becoming difficult for Justin's latest single to be bumped into medium rotation on many stations.
I don't know about anyone else, but this is one of my least favorite songs charting right now. Usually I change the station when it comes on, but if it is on, I just kind of zone it out. The repetition of the chorus with the production, along with Justin's vocals makes this one boring song to me personally. I'm not unhappy at all that this has struggled.
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Post by dm2081 on Sept 23, 2014 18:12:06 GMT -5
^ I agree wholeheartedly. It does seem like such a simple reasoning, but Justin's song is definitely getting lost in the shuffle because it doesn't stand out enough. You couple in the new singles from the heavy hitters, and its becoming difficult for Justin's latest single to be bumped into medium rotation on many stations. I don't know about anyone else, but this is one of my least favorite songs charting right now. Usually I change the station when it comes on, but if it is on, I just kind of zone it out. The repetition of the chorus with the production, along with Justin's vocals makes this one boring song to me personally. I'm not unhappy at all that this has struggled. I actually really like this song, but I'm a huge Motley Crue fan to begin with (I'm seeing them in October). I will admit that this song doesn't stray too far from the original, and maybe that was a mistake. There are some points in this song where I can't even tell the difference between the two artist's versions. Perhaps if this song was maybe a little more "Countrified" it'd be doing better? Not sure how popular the Crue are in the country world, so maybe Justin should've change the arrangement around a little bit to make it sound more original.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 19:26:29 GMT -5
I liked this and am sad to see it struggling, i would like to see a third single released but honestly the better option would be to go for a lead single especially since a lot of hype goes behind one and could restore any damage HSH did to Justin's career
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 23:32:29 GMT -5
Ok, that's weird...Billboard shows this song without a bullet (for the 3rd chart in a row) and yet it didn't go recurrent?
It did manage a gain of 31 spins for the week (despite a loss of 426k in audience) but Billboard didn't darken its chart position to show it as having a bullet. So either it did lose its bullet and, by rule, should have gone recurrent, or it didn't lose its bullet (due to the spin gain) and Billboard simply forgot to put a black circle around its chart position.
I guess I'm not sure if a spin gain always qualifies a song for a bullet, or if it can gain spins and lose audience but still be bullet-less (and Justin did lose audience).
In any case, Justin has fallen 5 positions in the last 2 weeks, from #30 to his current #35 position on tonight's chart, and he's gotten passed by Tim McGraw, Darius Rucker, Brett Eldredge, Lee Brice, Thomas Rhett, Randy Houser, and Jake Owen in that span.
I wonder if the label will even bother trying to resurrect this one? It's obviously on life support...I don't think it's that radio necessarily dislikes this one, but there are a lot of other releases out right now, and radio has chosen to go with other 'momentum' artists like Thomas Rhett, Lee Brice, Brett Eldredge, and, to a lesser extent, Jake Owen and Randy Houser. Not all of these artists are going to be able to move up, especially when you also have Brothers Osborne, Dan + Shay, and Hunter Hayes fighting to move up through the top 30. Justin looks like he's going to be the first one from this 'group' to lose out, even if "Home Sweet Home" does manage to rally and stick around for a few more weeks yet.
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Post by Zazie on Sept 30, 2014 22:10:43 GMT -5
I go away for a vacation so BB forgets their rules? That's the best explanation... more seriously, there are some rules questions here. A song does rebullet under BB's rules if it gains in spins despite losing audience, as long as the audience loss is under 3% of the song's total audience. Here, the song did lose more than 3% of its audience -- it had 6.3 mill in audience, and 1 % of that is 63k, so 3% is 180+k, and it lost 426k. (Obviously losing 630k would have been 10%, so this loss was more than 5%.)
So that should have been enough, but I'm supposing that BB just didn't want to pull the song based on the arithmetic when the song did in fact increase in spins, and so they suspended enforcement of their own rule. Might be smart if the song's still being promoted -- I don't know about that, but it did gain 160k and 7 spins on MB overnight, so if those were BB-panel gains, the decision looks decent after 1 day.
I myself wish they'd stick to their rules, or else change the rules; but I suppose they still have bad memories of having to re-add songs that still had chart life in them. That wasn't good for their credibility and I can see why they don't want to take a chance on it happening again (recurring, I wanted to say, but that's somehow the wrong word to use).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2014 20:19:46 GMT -5
It's baffling to me that Big Machine didn't release this along with another single from Justin's album.
Plenty of artists have had two songs on the charts, and with this struggling, it'll be even more difficult him to bounce back.
This whole fiasco is just another reason why I'm so frustrated with Big Machine lately.
They released this album with no promo, and the artists on their label are expected to sell with no pushes from them.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2014 20:26:57 GMT -5
It's baffling to me that Big Machine didn't release this along with another single from Justin's album. Plenty of artists have had two songs on the charts, and with this struggling, it'll be even more difficult him to bounce back. This whole fiasco is just another reason why I'm so frustrated with Big Machine lately. They released this album with no promo, and the artists on their label are expected to sell with no pushes from them. None of this makes any sense to me. It's very, very rare for a country artist to have 2 songs on the chart at the same time, so I don't know why Big Machine would have ever thought about releasing "Home Sweet Home" at the same time as a different single from Justin's own Off The Beaten Path album. With HSH struggling, another Justin single would have just made things worse, especially since he's also on the chart as a featured artist in Brantley Gilbert's top 10 hit "Small Town Throwdown". Justin will be able to bounce back just fine but he'll probably have to wait until he has new material ready to go from a new album. As for your last comment, I'm assuming you are talking about the Motley Crue tribute album? I wouldn't say they released it with no promo..."Home Sweet Home" IS the promo for the album, lol. Most tribute albums don't have singles released from them, so I'm not sure what else you expected the label to do? It's a tribute album, a sort of one-time thing, so obviously they aren't going to focus on it like they would for a new studio album from one of their artists. Also, "the artists on their label are expected to sell with no pushes from them"? Big Machine has a strong roster of artists, and they've been more successful than just about any other label at breaking in new artists.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Oct 7, 2014 15:31:44 GMT -5
I wonder why I have yet to hear WATZ play this? They usually play stuff the second it's released, and I haven't heard them play this once. It's literally the only thing higher than #50 that I have yet to hear them play.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2014 19:02:11 GMT -5
I heard this for the first time today, and while I have never been a huge fan of Justin's vocalist this song absolutely killed any thought that he was a decent vocalist. When he reaches the upper range with the tonight's part it is actually grating to listen to. The songs good the vocalist are abismal.
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Post by sabre14 on Oct 7, 2014 19:15:07 GMT -5
I wonder why I have yet to hear WATZ play this? They usually play stuff the second it's released, and I haven't heard them play this once. It's literally the only thing higher than #50 that I have yet to hear them play. You haven't missed much IMO.
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Post by jferstler on Oct 7, 2014 22:07:43 GMT -5
I can't believe all the hate Justin gets on here. In my opinion he one of the best country vocalists out there. Songs like Flyin Down Backroad or Bed Of My Chevy are great. As are Small Town USA, If Heaven Wasn't So Far Away, Like There's No Tomorrow, Grandpa, Old Habits, For Some Old Redneck Reason.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Oct 12, 2014 14:56:32 GMT -5
Personally, I'm just fine with Justin's voice.
The problem is that there's just no way to make this song fit into country playlists. Not that it's by any means a badly executed cover — Justin sings the hell out of it — but as far as melody and arrangement, it's just too big and anthemic in its original form to make it sound like a country radio hit.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2014 19:17:35 GMT -5
I really hope that Billboard sends this recurrent tonight, even though it re-bulleted last week. It was without a bullet the previous 3 weeks so it should've gone recurrent 2 Mondays ago. Now it's clearly done and the next single has been announced, so I just hope that Billboard doesn't reset the clock counting down to recurrency (not a word but should be) just because Justin managed to eek out a bullet last week (and even though HSH bulleted, it fell from 35-38 and had a small audience loss).
I guess we'll know soon...I am just really hoping that this one goes recurrent and opens up a spot for another song to debut and for other songs to move up.
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Post by someguy on Oct 13, 2014 20:22:40 GMT -5
I was hoping it would have been pulled too, but it's still there and I expect it will be taking up space again next week as well. It really should have been pulled two weeks ago.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2014 20:46:54 GMT -5
I was hoping it would have been pulled too, but it's still there and I expect it will be taking up space again next week as well. It really should have been pulled two weeks ago. I agree, it definitely should have been pulled then, and I think Billboard should have corrected their error and removed it tonight. I'm not sure if it will be there next week, though. They may wise up and remove it, or perhaps it will fall all the way out of the top 60. It only has 4.4 million in total audience and it lost almost 1.8 million on the new chart, plus it didn't really start downward in earnest until mid-week. Thus, I think it could lose well over 2 million and fall way down the chart. At the very least that would move a lot of other songs up 1 spot each. Justin probably needs to fall below 700k to have any chance at dropping below #60 (unless BB does just remove it anyway).
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Post by someguy on Oct 13, 2014 20:51:46 GMT -5
I was hoping it would have been pulled too, but it's still there and I expect it will be taking up space again next week as well. It really should have been pulled two weeks ago. I agree, it definitely should have been pulled then, and I think Billboard should have corrected their error and removed it tonight. I'm not sure if it will be there next week, though. They may wise up and remove it, or perhaps it will fall all the way out of the top 60. It only has 4.4 million in total audience and it lost almost 1.8 million on the new chart, plus it didn't really start downward in earnest until mid-week. Thus, I think it could lose well over 2 million and fall way down the chart. At the very least that would move a lot of other songs up 1 spot each. Justin probably needs to fall below 700k to have any chance at dropping below #60 (unless BB does just remove it anyway). That's true, it could actually could fall all the way off the chart. I'm sure it's happened before, but I can't remember a song falling off charts naturally from inside the top 40.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Oct 13, 2014 23:49:29 GMT -5
^ Jypsi's "I Don't Love You Like That" fell out of the 40 four times before they finally pulled it.
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