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Post by sabre14 on Jun 28, 2014 12:57:54 GMT -5
Artist: Jerrod Niemann Single: "Buzz Back Girl" Writers: Lee Brice, Kyle Jacobs, Phillip Lammonds Album: High NoonLabel: Sea Gayle/Arista Nashville Add Date: July 14th, 2014 Source: All AccessChart Run: 51* - 50* - 49* - 49* - 47* - 44* - 46* - 45* - 46* - 43* - 43* - 42* - 39* - 37* - 35* - 36 - 36* - 37 - 35* - 35 - 41 (Mediabase) Well that was fast . Arista is obviously taking the quick approach that "Donkey" never happened, and are going to send out "Buzz Back Girl" as the third single from High Noon. It impacts radio on July 14th.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Jun 28, 2014 13:05:02 GMT -5
Would have preferred "Space" but I still really like this. Niemann' performance is full of energy and I love the melody, even if the lyrics are pretty average.
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Post by rsmatto on Jun 28, 2014 13:06:49 GMT -5
This one's gonna do pretty well, I think. Then again, maybe he'll be 'blacklisted' by some programmers for the whole "Donkey" situation.
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 28, 2014 13:20:51 GMT -5
This one's gonna do pretty well, I think. Then again, maybe he'll be 'blacklisted' by some programmers for the whole "Donkey" situation. As much as I hated "Donkey" and am glad it bombed, I really hope that radio doesn't take that approach. Perhaps most programmers will be relieved and happy that they are sending them a "legit" single and will go out of their way to add it because it's not "Donkey". Jerrod said that the label approached him to release "Donkey" as the second single, so it would be a shame if this doesn't do as well because of that decision. I'm pretty relieved that this is being sent out. It's far from the best song on this album ("Space" and "Lucky #7" would be my two selections) and I'm not a big fan of "Buzz Back Girl", but almost anything would have been better than "Drink To That All Night" and "Donkey".
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Post by raprulestheworld on Jun 28, 2014 13:24:47 GMT -5
Wait I thought the next single was Donkey. What happened? I like that song.
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 28, 2014 13:26:07 GMT -5
Wait I thought the next single was Donkey. What happened? I like that song. It will be sent recurrent on MB tomorrow. It only reached #43 on Billboard and #44 on Mediabase. It essentially bombed at country radio.
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Post by rsmatto on Jun 28, 2014 13:29:02 GMT -5
This one's gonna do pretty well, I think. Then again, maybe he'll be 'blacklisted' by some programmers for the whole "Donkey" situation. As much as I hated "Donkey" and am glad it bombed, I really hope that radio doesn't take that approach. Perhaps most programmers will be relieved and happy that they are sending them a "legit" single and will go out of their way to add it because it's not "Donkey". Jerrod said that the label approached him to release "Donkey" as the second single, so it would be a shame if this doesn't do as well because of that decision. I'm pretty relieved that this is being sent out. It's far from the best song on this album ("Space" and "Lucky #7" would be my two selections) and I'm not a big fan of "Buzz Back Girl", but almost anything would have been better than "Drink To That All Night" and "Donkey". I know he didn't think "Donkey" would be a single but wanted it for his album/live show. It'd be interesting if they thought to try with "Donkey" knowing the recurrent airplay strength of "Drink" was likely to derail any follow-up single.
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 28, 2014 13:36:37 GMT -5
As much as I hated "Donkey" and am glad it bombed, I really hope that radio doesn't take that approach. Perhaps most programmers will be relieved and happy that they are sending them a "legit" single and will go out of their way to add it because it's not "Donkey". Jerrod said that the label approached him to release "Donkey" as the second single, so it would be a shame if this doesn't do as well because of that decision. I'm pretty relieved that this is being sent out. It's far from the best song on this album ("Space" and "Lucky #7" would be my two selections) and I'm not a big fan of "Buzz Back Girl", but almost anything would have been better than "Drink To That All Night" and "Donkey". I know he didn't think "Donkey" would be a single but wanted it for his album/live show. It'd be interesting if they thought to try with "Donkey" knowing the recurrent airplay strength of "Drink" was likely to derail any follow-up single. That's true, and something to consider when it comes to recurrent play of the previous release which is why Thomas Rhett is likely delaying his follow up to "Get Me Some Of That". That said, "Donkey" might have left a bad taste in some people's mouth even with how quickly it flamed out. Perhaps they just tried to swing for the fences with "Donkey" and if it wasn't a sizeable hit single, they'd have plenty of time to try another anyway with "Drink To That" still getting heavy recurrent play. I've actually really enjoyed Jerrod's singles prior to "Drink To That" and I love his story for how he came to be a major label artist, so even though I shook my head at his last two singles, I do want him to succeed at radio with quality songs. Even though this isn't quite that IMO, it's heading in the right direction.
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Post by rsmatto on Jun 28, 2014 13:42:21 GMT -5
I know he didn't think "Donkey" would be a single but wanted it for his album/live show. It'd be interesting if they thought to try with "Donkey" knowing the recurrent airplay strength of "Drink" was likely to derail any follow-up single. That's true, and something to consider when it comes to recurrent play of the previous release which is why Thomas Rhett is likely delaying his follow up to "Get Me Some Of That". That said, "Donkey" might have left a bad taste in some people's mouth even with how quickly it flamed out. Perhaps they just tried to swing for the fences with "Donkey" and if it wasn't a sizeable hit single, they'd have plenty of time to try another anyway with "Drink To That" still getting heavy recurrent play. I've actually really enjoyed Jerrod's singles prior to "Drink To That" and I love his story for how he came to be a major label artist, so even though I shook my head at his last two singles, I do want him to succeed at radio with quality songs. Even though this isn't quite that IMO, it's heading in the right direction. This is highly-likely the case for "Donkey," why not see if it can be a "Red Solo Cup" type of song. But the smarter play may have been to make a video regardless of whether its a single on radio or not.
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Post by dm2081 on Jun 28, 2014 14:21:06 GMT -5
Wow this song actually is pretty decent, miles better than the first two singles. No auto-tune!!! In all seriousness, this is catchy and not offensive. Not a bad choice.
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Post by rsmatto on Jun 30, 2014 9:11:48 GMT -5
Well, it looks like they're trying to ignore that "Donkey" ever happened. From the MPe release today:
From his platinum-selling #1 smash to the single radio has been asking for…Jerrod Niemann is on fire! "Buzz Back Girl" Don’t wait – add it now!
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Post by onebuffalo on Jun 30, 2014 16:47:46 GMT -5
All of us should thank sabre14 for the good news. Thanks!
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 30, 2014 17:40:28 GMT -5
Even though the album came out a while ago, the audio is available on All Access' "Cool New Music". What's funny is they still have the audio and single package up for "Donkey" still directly below it.
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Post by sabre14 on Aug 14, 2014 12:35:32 GMT -5
I think it's pretty obvious the damage that "Donkey" did to Jerrod's momentum. "Buzz Back Girl" has had a rather slow start in it's first five weeks on the charts. It's actually down .068 in audience since Sunday and has gained just 37 spins over the past seven days on MB. It's current chart position is #49 on the rolling chart. It has gotten relatively good support from stations in terms of adds though with 11 this past week and 79 overall on the MB panel. The problem is that it's not in heavy or even medium rotation on any of it's stations with a good chuck of spins coming during the overnight hours.
So far this chart run looks similar to a newcomer who's trying to break through to radio. You'd never know he had a big #1 single earlier this year. I said before, even though I'm not the biggest fan of this song, I hoped the "Donkey" failure didn't halt Jerrod's momentum and good will with radio. Unfortunately it has done some damage, and if "Buzz Back Girl" is going to climb the charts it will be a slow one.
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Post by gurustu on Aug 14, 2014 15:47:26 GMT -5
I'm pretty much over Jerrod Niemann. I haven't liked a single of his since "What Do you Want" (which was a fantastic song btw). "Buzz Back Girl" is no different from me. It's twenty times better than that "Donkey" crap and I'm glad to see that tanked as well, but like I said, I haven't liked any of the music he has put out for four years now!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2014 16:08:55 GMT -5
Country radio is increasingly becoming more and more like pop radio, in that many artists will get one (maybe two) big hits from an album but nothing else. Part of the problem is the glut of artists and labels out there, but I think the biggest issue is that radio has taken to playing the powers more and more, resulting in tons and tons of spins allocated to the top 10-20 songs and fewer spins trickling down to those songs that are lower on the charts.
And popular recurrents remain just that--very popular--long after they've fallen off the charts. I am still hearing "Drink To That All Night" a ton on the Phoenix stations, and they have been pretty good about jumping on new tunes fairly quickly. I also hear "Whatever She's Got" a lot still, and other recurrents too.
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Post by sabre14 on Aug 14, 2014 16:28:43 GMT -5
Country radio is increasingly becoming more and more like pop radio, in that many artists will get one (maybe two) big hits from an album but nothing else. Part of the problem is the glut of artists and labels out there, but I think the biggest issue is that radio has taken to playing the powers more and more, resulting in tons and tons of spins allocated to the top 10-20 songs and fewer spins trickling down to those songs that are lower on the charts. And popular recurrents remain just that--very popular--long after they've fallen off the charts. I am still hearing "Drink To That All Night" a ton on the Phoenix stations, and they have been pretty good about jumping on new tunes fairly quickly. I also hear "Whatever She's Got" a lot still, and other recurrents too. You got that right about Phoenix and recurrents. The playlist for KMLE is absolutely loaded with them. "Drink To That All Night" is the third most played recurrent on their playlist and 17th overall with 36 spins this past week alone. Some other spin totals for other recent recurrents are "Lettin' The Night Roll" (33), "Bottoms Up" (30), "When She Says Baby" (26), "Rewind" (26), and "Drink A Beer" (19) among others. You're right on that point of stations not letting go with recent recurrents, and the fact that the songs in the top 10-20 are sometimes getting 60-70-80, even 100 spins at stations per week makes songs from the 30's on down that much harder to gain traction and result in longer chart runs. I've never been that into pop radio to may much attention to it but the one thing I do know is they play the living heck out of their hits. "Buzz Back Girl" is certainly not being helped by the recurrent status of "Drink To That All Night" or the heavy log jam of artists trying to get a hit at radio. You throw the fact that his last single was a major league flame out, and I guess nobody should be surprised this is off to a rather uneventful slow start.
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Post by Zazie on Aug 14, 2014 19:01:01 GMT -5
Niemann's recent #1 is still in the top 35 of songs getting airplay on the Billboard panel. It's lasting a long time, and decreasing very slowly as far as its audience impressions are concerned.
Maybe that's why Buzz is starting so slowly, in which case we can expect the new song to have a very long chart run. It may not even hit the top 40 for another month (although the upcoming housecleaning will move it higher -- but a number of songs can be expected to pass it soon). The alternative possibility is that he's done at country radio, and if his song doesn't even last 12 weeks I might start worrying about that.
It's too soon to be so worried, and I want him to stay on the radio so I'll just hope that his song is a slow grower. I see it just debuted this week on the Indicator chart, so I should be patient and see what unfolds over the next month or two.
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Post by dm2081 on Aug 14, 2014 20:32:27 GMT -5
Yeah I think it's a little early to be concerned yet. "Like A Cowboy" started off really slowly too, as did Hunter Hayes, and I'd argue those too are bigger names at radio (by a very small amount). I'm so sick of radio playing recurrents still like their hits. Listening to radio will seriously ruin some songs by just overplaying the heck out of them. It really doesn't make sense to me either because we have moved towards a more instant and digital age of music. With new music able to be released so much easier these days, I wish songs would have way quicker chart life's. Just like on iTunes, a new song will sell really well at first when it's a new single, and then slowly fall down the charts. I wish radio could be the same. But until that day comes, I will stick to my iPod and listen to songs because I want to, and not because they're being forced down my throat.
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Post by sabre14 on Aug 14, 2014 22:27:16 GMT -5
Yeah I think it's a little early to be concerned yet. "Like A Cowboy" started off really slowly too, as did Hunter Hayes, and I'd argue those too are bigger names at radio (by a very small amount). I'm so sick of radio playing recurrents still like their hits. Listening to radio will seriously ruin some songs by just overplaying the heck out of them. It really doesn't make sense to me either because we have moved towards a more instant and digital age of music. With new music able to be released so much easier these days, I wish songs would have way quicker chart life's. Just like on iTunes, a new song will sell really well at first when it's a new single, and then slowly fall down the charts. I wish radio could be the same. But until that day comes, I will stick to my iPod and listen to songs because I want to, and not because they're being forced down my throat. "Like A Cowboy" had nearly .600 more in audience and over 100 more spins than "Buzz Back Girl" at the 4 week mark - but it was more on the slow side than the fast side, so I agree. Nobody was concerned about "Buzz Back Girl's" chances though. Just a simple point out of the fact that Jerrod lost some spaces on the momentum game board and had to move back to a slow climb for this song after the success for "Drink To That All Night", though as was previously pointed out, "Drink To That" has actually helped to hinder Jerrod's momentum of this singles climb thus far with recurrent airplay. I too agree that nobody should worry just yet about this song, but let's remember that "Donkey" had 40 first week stations and nearly 60 by it's second week. Imagine if the second single was another track like "Buzz Back Girl" or "Lucky #7", or "Space". There's quite a few factors for Jerrod's slow climb so far (Recurrent play, competition, "Donkey" - probably in that order). I also think that even though Zazie brought up the possibility that Jerrod's best days at radio are now behind him, I don't think were there yet either.
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Post by dm2081 on Aug 14, 2014 22:42:46 GMT -5
Yeah I think it's a little early to be concerned yet. "Like A Cowboy" started off really slowly too, as did Hunter Hayes, and I'd argue those too are bigger names at radio (by a very small amount). I'm so sick of radio playing recurrents still like their hits. Listening to radio will seriously ruin some songs by just overplaying the heck out of them. It really doesn't make sense to me either because we have moved towards a more instant and digital age of music. With new music able to be released so much easier these days, I wish songs would have way quicker chart life's. Just like on iTunes, a new song will sell really well at first when it's a new single, and then slowly fall down the charts. I wish radio could be the same. But until that day comes, I will stick to my iPod and listen to songs because I want to, and not because they're being forced down my throat. "Like A Cowboy" had nearly .600 more in audience and over 100 more spins than "Buzz Back Girl" at the 4 week mark - but it was more on the slow side than the fast side, so I agree. Nobody was concerned about "Buzz Back Girl's" chances though. Just a simple point out of the fact that Jerrod lost some spaces on the momentum game board and had to move back to a slow climb for this song after the success for "Drink To That All Night", though as was previously pointed out, "Drink To That" has actually helped to hinder Jerrod's momentum of this singles climb thus far with recurrent airplay. I too agree that nobody should worry just yet about this song, but let's remember that "Donkey" had 40 first week stations and nearly 60 by it's second week. Imagine if the second single was another track like "Buzz Back Girl" or "Lucky #7", or "Space". There's quite a few factors for Jerrod's slow climb so far (Recurrent play, competition, "Donkey" - probably in that order). I also think that even though Zazie brought up the possibility that Jerrod's best days at radio are now behind him, I don't think were there yet either. Oh I totally agree, "Donkey" definitely was not a smart decision. Releasing "Donkey" as a promo only single would have been fine, maybe even release a video for it (which I thought they were going to, I wonder what happened to it lol), but it was not wise to release to country radio. I think it's going to be hard for him to earn his reputation back after that one, especially because "Drink To That All Night" was really pop-sounding to begin with. Now because "Donkey" stalled out, they had to throw out another single during the most crowded releasing period I can ever remember. Who's new single is radio going to be more likely to play right now: a new Joe Nichols song (following up two contemorary sounding #1's), a new Chris Young song (following up 2 high peaking songs, neither that strayed far from the expected country sound), a new Randy Houser song (following up 3 well received singles), a new Jake Owen song (5 #1's in last 4 years) OR Jerrod's new song, following up 2 dance/pop sounding country songs? I think it's going to be hard for Jerrod to be taken seriously right now. His label really screwed him over with the decision to release "Donkey" to radio.
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Post by tim on Aug 14, 2014 23:41:43 GMT -5
I don't have much to add to the conversation chart wise (I tend to agree with the opinion that his best days at radio are behind him), but I just don't see this song doing much of anything for him. Top 30? Maybe. I can't believe this is the same guy that gave us "Lover, Lover' and "What Do You Want." He sounds so uncomfortable on this song and the production is just...yuck for lack of a better word. "Donkey" killed any momentum Jerrod had at radio...and he in turn didn't do any favors with the industry comparing his recording of that song to the likes of say greats like Johnny Cash, Waylon, and Willie.
This song is and will be an instant radio changer for me, and probably anything released further from High Noon. I thought "Space" would've been a good follow-up for a second single and would sound great going into the fall/winter months...alas we get another drinking song.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Aug 15, 2014 1:55:08 GMT -5
I don't have much to add to the conversation chart wise (I tend to agree with the opinion that his best days at radio are behind him), but I just don't see this song doing much of anything for him. Top 30? Maybe. I can't believe this is the same guy that gave us "Lover, Lover' and "What Do You Want." He sounds so uncomfortable on this song and the production is just...yuck for lack of a better word. "Donkey" killed any momentum Jerrod had at radio...and he in turn didn't do any favors with the industry comparing his recording of that song to the likes of say greats like Johnny Cash, Waylon, and Willie. This song is and will be an instant radio changer for me, and probably anything released further from High Noon. I thought "Space" would've been a good follow-up for a second single and would sound great going into the fall/winter months...alas we get another drinking song. Best days at radio behind him? It's not like he's exactly a veteran.
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Post by Zazie on Aug 15, 2014 6:59:53 GMT -5
I never said "best days" myself. I said he might be "done." Sabre just smoothed out my language a bit.
What worries me about Jerrod is that he is a risk-taker. I usually admire risk-takers, even if the move isn't successful -- Donkey was certainly a big risk, and I don't blame him for taking it (although the song itself was everything that y'all are saying, and more). But whether I admire risk-takers or not, country radio is in a "playing it safe" mode since the 90's. They crunch their numbers rather than evaluating music on musical criteria.
So I can see them dropping Jerrod like a shot. I prefer to believe that what's happening to Buzz is largely a result of recurrent airplay for the big #1 -- but nothing would surprise me. And gamblers who don't know when to hold 'em can be punished severely.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2014 17:01:15 GMT -5
You got that right about Phoenix and recurrents. The playlist for KMLE is absolutely loaded with them. "Drink To That All Night" is the third most played recurrent on their playlist and 17th overall with 36 spins this past week alone. Some other spin totals for other recent recurrents are "Lettin' The Night Roll" (33), "Bottoms Up" (30), "When She Says Baby" (26), "Rewind" (26), and "Drink A Beer" (19) among others. You're right on that point of stations not letting go with recent recurrents, and the fact that the songs in the top 10-20 are sometimes getting 60-70-80, even 100 spins at stations per week makes songs from the 30's on down that much harder to gain traction and result in longer chart runs. I've never been that into pop radio to may much attention to it but the one thing I do know is they play the living heck out of their hits. A little off-topic here I know, but in KMLE's defense, I have heard a bunch of brand new tunes on there already. In the last couple of days I've heard "Buzz Back Girl" several times, as well as "What We Ain't Got" (both Phoenix stations are ALL OVER this one), "Lonely Eyes" (KMLE is pushing this one big time), and "Tattoo". I've also been hearing "Kiss You Tonight", "Feelin' It", and "Girl In A Country Song" quite a bit here. They played Dean Alexander's debut the other day, and also Kelsea Ballerini's "Love Me Like You Mean It". And I've even heard Darius' "Homegrown Honey" already. I'm glad because both Phoenix stations are among the leaders when it comes to weekly plays of KU's "Somewhere In My Car", which is probably my favorite song out right now :) But I have heard "Buzz Back Girl" probably a half dozen times in the last 2 days or so while I was out and about. Both stations here seem to be really supportive of Jerrod.
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Post by Kentucky25 on Aug 19, 2014 16:36:23 GMT -5
I don't have much to add to the conversation chart wise (I tend to agree with the opinion that his best days at radio are behind him), but I just don't see this song doing much of anything for him. Top 30? Maybe. I can't believe this is the same guy that gave us "Lover, Lover' and "What Do You Want." He sounds so uncomfortable on this song and the production is just...yuck for lack of a better word. "Donkey" killed any momentum Jerrod had at radio...and he in turn didn't do any favors with the industry comparing his recording of that song to the likes of say greats like Johnny Cash, Waylon, and Willie. This song is and will be an instant radio changer for me, and probably anything released further from High Noon. I thought "Space" would've been a good follow-up for a second single and would sound great going into the fall/winter months...alas we get another drinking song. "Hey, hey, hey, what's so wrong, with one more drinkin' song?" Sorry...I just HAD to do that lol.
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Post by tim on Sept 18, 2014 22:22:58 GMT -5
I've been keeping an eye on this one for a while now and looking at how there hasn't been a word about this in almost a month I thought it a good time to swing back around to see how this is doing. This is about two months old now and looks to be struggling quite a bit; it was at a high last week of about 2.9 and has come back down to 2.8 for this week. Even then it has just been lingering around the #44-46 chart positions for weeks now. Jerrod no doubt lost a lot of momentum after the debacle that was not only "Donkey" but also his comments correlating that song's release with the likes of Willie and Waylon (seriously Jerrod, what were you thinking?).
I don't see Jerrod finding much success with "Buzz Back Girl" and it looks like it'll even struggle to make the top 40. After that I'm not quite sure where Jerrod goes with this record. He and his label ko'd whatever momentum he had after "Drink to That All Night."
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Post by Zazie on Sept 19, 2014 17:05:09 GMT -5
Buzz had no bullet on the 9/27 Billboard chart and could have his second bulletless week on the chart we get Monday night. That would put him in danger of going recurrent.
That's what I was afraid might happen. He still could easily rally for a re-bullet but he's about 700k away from the top 40 and not getting any closer.
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 19, 2014 17:48:18 GMT -5
Buzz had no bullet on the 9/27 Billboard chart and could have his second bulletless week on the chart we get Monday night. That would put him in danger of going recurrent. That's what I was afraid might happen. He still could easily rally for a re-bullet but he's about 700k away from the top 40 and not getting any closer. I don't think he'll go recurrent on Monday's Billboard chart, but time is clearly running out for Jerrod to salvage this album cycle. He's down about 150k in audience on MB since Sunday and his spin gains have all but halted the past two weeks with a current spin gain of just 6 on the rolling chart. Three songs will go recurrent on MB come the 9/29 chart but Jerrod will not make the top 40 at this pace as others will pass him. Look I despised "Drink To That All Night" (though who knows, if not for that song I might not ever have registered to Pulse, so believe it or not, it does hold a place somewhere in my heart), but I'm deeply saddened that "Donkey" has completely torpedoed Jerrod's momentum.
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