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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 14:26:40 GMT -5
I like how you act like me being stubborn is anything new Cynthia lmao touche. we're a mutable sign so i always have a little side eye when a Virgo is being exceptionally stubborn though lol. i was thinking about the last game where you were convinced Zebra was the independent and refused to budge, but on second thought your belief of that was independent of your own mafia status, so nvmd i guess. I have a null read on Coco, but if I had to say one way or the other, I lean a bit town on her and that is why I haven't really gotten invested in the recent questioning of her motives. Also she admitted she's been reading the thread 5-6 pages at a time, so I'm thinking she hasn't gotten through the entire thread and/or has missed some stuff in the middle. Her most recent posts have been very focused on what happened in the last 5-6 pages. ry4n confuddles me - how is he one of the four most frequent posters in here and yet i recall NOTHING he has said? (ngl, i keep getting mixed up and thinking Nick is a player in the game and ry4n is a co-mod). this is a weak choice, but I don't feel comfortable not having a vote out, so vote: ry4n because there is something amiss about someone who has made it through this entire thread without having anything to actually say.
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Post by nick64 on Aug 5, 2014 14:29:25 GMT -5
With 14 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch.
Deadline is August 6, 11:00pm ET.
Coco: 1 (Invincible) Green Baron: 4 (Rocky, Ry4n, Codex, Zebra) Invincible: 4 (Max, Coco, Surfboardt, Ginger Spice) Ry4n: 3 (Popstop, Kunt, Cynthia) Surfboardt: 2 (Az, Green Baron)
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Post by surfy on Aug 5, 2014 14:31:12 GMT -5
I want to hear from Az, Rocky, Codex, and Surf about all of this honestly. I've put in my two cents. I didn't make a huge ISO or analysis, but my viewpoint is pretty much aligned with the rest of the house on this one. Invince flipping on Green Baron makes me feel like they are in the same faction... like... no one just changes their mind that fast on someone, especially if nothing really happened that you apparently didn't know already ![](http://yoursmiles.org/ssmile/fun/s0244.gif) But Green Baron, we asked if it said anything else, and you said no. So.... You two are at the top of my scum list.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 14:31:30 GMT -5
I was barely even top 4 in the first place, and Coco has since passed me. There's a pretty dam big gap after the top 3, so why I was singled out in being with the top posters?
Invince 185 Green Baron 115 Kunt 98 Coco 66 ry4n 62 Zebra 60
I'm also a spot further down if you combine Drag and Surf's posts
Drag 45 Surf 36
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 14:32:18 GMT -5
Zebra has just as many posts as me, and he's contributed the same as me.
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Post by Green Baron on Aug 5, 2014 14:37:03 GMT -5
I was barely even top 4 in the first place, and Coco has since passed me. There's a pretty dam big gap after the top 3, so why I was singled out in being with the top posters? Invince 185 Green Baron 115 Kunt 98 Coco 66 ry4n 62 Zebra 60 I'm also a spot further down if you combine Drag and Surf's posts Drag 45 Surf 36 Well, there's a pretty big gap after Invince, period.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 14:42:43 GMT -5
I was barely even top 4 in the first place, and Coco has since passed me. There's a pretty dam big gap after the top 3, so why I was singled out in being with the top posters? Invince 185 Green Baron 115 Kunt 98 Coco 66 ry4n 62 Zebra 60 I'm also a spot further down if you combine Drag and Surf's posts Drag 45 Surf 36 Well, there's a pretty big gap after Invince, period. Check the God Complex gap out. ![](http://yoursmiles.org/ssmile/fun/s0244.gif) Invincible 563 (Town Roleblocker) Kunt 293 (Town Neigbourizer) Codex 178 (Town Cop) Lahey 159 (Town Doctor) josh 118 (Mod) Zebra. 95 (Mafia) Countryrocks 70 (Indie) Libra 68 (Mafia) Az 57 (Town Vanilla Role Cop) popstop 54 (Mafia) Super 48 (Town Lightning Rod) nick64 37 (Mafia) Devin 36 (Town Speaker Of The Dead) WotUNeed 33 (Town Tree Stump) Sean 25 (Town Double Dipper) Surf, give up on it, we're not both in a scum faction. What makes you so willing to believe that we're both scum? That's either complete tunnel vision, or you're not actually reading the reasons why I flipped on him.. which come to think about it totally sounds the same as you played the last game. So once again I'm back to where I started. Vote: Surf For not actually reading the thread, cause if you did, you would know my reason more thoroughly.
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Post by Rocky on Aug 5, 2014 14:46:02 GMT -5
I want to hear from Az, Rocky, Codex, and Surf about all of this honestly. errr... Imo this is stupid and I wanna go home.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 14:50:45 GMT -5
If it were up to me, here would be the logical choices barring myself and GB.
1. antigonerising 2. Az Paynter (Weary Stars) 3. J. Frankie Grande (SURFBOARDT!) 4. ry4n
5. Green Baron 6. Ginger Spice
7. Julie Chenstop
8. BH In The BBH 9. Zebra. 10. Jeff SchroedeRocky 11. Codex 12. them_ax
13. Kunt 14. Games of Coco. #sosofresh
These to me are all wild cards, so idk how any of these would flip, and I feel like outside of GB & myself; the convenience choices, these all would have the highest potential for a lynch, give or take Coco.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 14:52:34 GMT -5
Zebra has just as many posts as me, and he's contributed the same as me. yeah, i'm starting to ISO now (was at first not having any problems with the search function) and see that you don't have as many posts as Coco thought you did, she must have just looked at the list of names and not the numbers. Also as GB pointed out there's a HUGE gap between Invince and everyone else (and to a lesser extent, a gap between GB/Kunt and everyone else) so that skews things. so far what i've found: you (ry4n) have said nil Zebra has said even more nil Max has said nil Codex has said nil except for one pretty solid analysis/response post a day ago surf has had little to say outside of suspicion of Invince and GB Coco just got here Invince and GB speak for themselves so I'm not rehashing that and then the search function bailed on me so that's all the ISOing I've got for now
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 15:03:13 GMT -5
I like how you act like me being stubborn is anything new Cynthia lmao touche. we're a mutable sign so i always have a little side eye when a Virgo is being exceptionally stubborn though lol. That's true, and my Mercury is in Virgo and Mars in Gemini, but my ninth house is in Taurus so....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 15:03:58 GMT -5
nice editing
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 15:04:49 GMT -5
well actually, seeing that the players I didn't get to were Az, Ginger, Kunt, popstop, and Rocky, I guess there wasn't that much ISOing left to do. I'm pretty sure there's nothing of note for Az/Ginger/Rocky; and popstop, although he hasn't said as much as most others, has contributed to discussion and seems pretty townish to me. Kunt is an ISO that I'd reserve for day 2 since I would never have any intention of pushing for his lynch on Day 1.
re: Surf, I don't say this to be mean but he reminds me of Max a bit in that he isn't a very close reader, so it isn't an indication of his scumminess one way or the other when he overlooks other people's arguments or defenses IMO. I have a null read on him and honestly he is one whom I wouldn't even care to lynch first b/c if he is scum, I think he will get caught in his own lies easily enough later.
So, as of now I don't want to lynch these people today: GB, Invince, Surf, Kunt, Coco, myself (obviously). I'll leave my vote where it is for now and see how I feel about changing it later.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 15:04:54 GMT -5
surf has had little to say outside of suspicion of Invince and GB Yeah and I find that suspicious, he seems to just be following other people's thoughts and I see no originality. Maybe I'm tunnel visioned right now, but I'd like to see some originality out of him maybe to sway my opinion of him.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 15:05:43 GMT -5
Zebra has just as many posts as me, and he's contributed the same as me. Zebra's someone I'm questioning too, but I just found your input on Coco to be convenient and bandwagonning Invince and I. Although tbh Cynthia voting ry4n seems just as well too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 15:06:02 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 15:10:45 GMT -5
Well, I'm actually willing to listen to Cynthia because I like her reads, I just really hope she's not scum; when she's town she's dangerous and someone that could actually lead us to a victory, but I will look into her more in the future days.
Unvote: Surf
So if we don't go after GB, myself, Cynthia, Kunt, Coco, Surf & popstop (my choice), who do we go after?
That leaves: Az, ry4n, Ginger Spice, Zebra., Rocky, Codex & Max.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 15:14:33 GMT -5
Part of me thinks we're letting GB off the hook too easily, but I guess there's no sense keeping up with that discussion since he isn't around to properly defend himself. The ISO feature is still broken on my end, so yeah. The other problem is I have null reads on over half of the players, and so little is actually happening at the moment that it's hard to even pick out who's aligned with who (bar Invince and Green Baron, who I really doubt are aligned). If we have to go for a lynch that isn't GB, I want it to be Az. I want to, again, put out there that I think GB is a decent enough target because of the messy claim as well as the fact that his flip would tell us more about the alignments of other players. Part of me is really uneasy about Cynthia's defense when she says she'd lie too if she was a power role being forced to claim, because she's riding on the assumption he is a power role and effectively outing him for it-- and I know her well enough to know she wouldn't do that so flippantly. This could just be me reading too much into my earlier, largely unjustified feelings on her though. So yeah. I say Az or Green Baron. Or Rocky because he basically gave up: I want to hear from Az, Rocky, Codex, and Surf about all of this honestly. errr... Imo this is stupid and I wanna go home. You could ask for a replacement..?
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Post by josh on Aug 5, 2014 15:15:11 GMT -5
#Mod: Kunt has been warned for editing.
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Post by surfy on Aug 5, 2014 15:17:35 GMT -5
Surf, give up on it, we're not both in a scum faction. What makes you so willing to believe that we're both scum? That's either complete tunnel vision, or you're not actually reading the reasons why I flipped on him.. which come to think about it totally sounds the same as you played the last game. So once again I'm back to where I started. Vote: Surf For not actually reading the thread, cause if you did, you would know my reason more thoroughly. What made you so willing to believe Green Baron was scum, you defended the f**k out of him, then once the heat is really on you for defending him, you throw a vote towards him... C'Mon, I can't be the only one thinking that that is suspicious. And you want to talk about tunnel vision, this whole time all you and GB have done is accuse me of being scum... serious? And that last game, I was scum, come on, we all knew it, now, I'm town, I got my head on straight, and I ain't gonna fall for this bullsh**. K? I read your reasons... and I believed you, then I saw this: I can give him this, on his last past he said his role pm said House Floater (Vanilla) which could be a safe claim, but we never mentioned the vanilla in parentheses, and that's exactly how it says it in my role pm, again this could be a safe claim, but he may be telling the truth. If he is, my next target is Coco cause I'm not buying her reasons here. This is basically you contradicting, you say he's scummy, and now he's telling the truth again? Which basically is you trying to avoid suspicion for defending Green Baron imo. (I could be wrong, but this is how I'm seeing it) And when you said this: I'd sure as hell move on to someone else if others are willing to do so as well. Unvote: Green Baron Then why don't you move on to someone else? Build up a case against someone else. (I see you've moved to me now... and this time I'm playing the game, you people are too f**king hard to please...) You say I have tunnel vision, but all I've seen you post about are me/coco/green baron
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 15:18:21 GMT -5
vote: Green Baron
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Post by surfy on Aug 5, 2014 15:19:59 GMT -5
And Cynthia pretty much has my posting style down... I'm a terrible reader (mostly due to tl;dr)
But I can assure you, I'm trying my best, I make a few mistakes because I am not a seasoned player yet, I will get better at this. (Hopefully)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 15:20:27 GMT -5
Az has been rather quiet and I don't think if he flipped scum it would really give us anything, so I'm against lynching him for the moment being.
ry4n hasn't really done much since we exited rvs, and needs to do some type of analysis or something, I feel like he's a valid target, but he's not the one that jumps out most from that list.
Ginger Spice's vote on me was weird, and he's definitely one on that list I'd be willing to vote because he isn't really giving me any vibes, and I'm not sure if that's a good thing or not, as he didn't in Snowtrapped and he was mafia.
Zebra. I'd like to see more from him, don't get why he voted for me for pointing out things like he's done hardly nothing since we exited rvs and well gave an excuse that we just exited rvs and then eventually votes me when the bandwagon is hot, doesn't make sense since he isn't contributing to post rvs himself very much; yet he votes for someone who is? What kinda flop logic? And he had me as a town read following my analysis and really flipped on me.
Rocky is another player who needs to contribute more, he seems lazy and adds hardly nothing in content, and if he's lynched i don't feel we can really connect anyone to him, so I feel like he's another not so honorable lynch target.
Codex is playing about the same as I've seen him in the past; and quite frankly I would consider him the biggest wild card at the moment, however his analysis brings much more content to life than many others have on this list - and i don't feel he should be the lynch target for this day phase.
Max is playing very strangely and it makes me suspect of him, he says he'll exit rvs but he hasn't and he says my long analysis was "forced" of all things and I can't really remember him saying much other than that. FoS at the least.
So in order, my top targets.
1. Max 2. Ginger 3. ry4n 4. Zebra. 5. Rocky 6. Az 7. Codex
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Post by surfy on Aug 5, 2014 15:22:07 GMT -5
I will say Invince, I do like that you are starting discussion, but the execution came off as scummy to me (I didn't know you were like that in every game though ![](http://yoursmiles.org/ssmile/fun/s0244.gif) )
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 15:23:33 GMT -5
Invince lbr as soon as Max posts something your top target will be Ginger and then he'll post something and then it'll be Az again or something lol. Az has been rather quiet and I don't think if he flipped scum it would really give us anything, so I'm against lynching him for the moment being. Eh, don't like this logic because lynching scum is better than lynching a townie regardless of the information provided. I'm also just completely baffled as to why you totally dropped Green Baron.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 15:24:39 GMT -5
Surf, give up on it, we're not both in a scum faction. What makes you so willing to believe that we're both scum? That's either complete tunnel vision, or you're not actually reading the reasons why I flipped on him.. which come to think about it totally sounds the same as you played the last game. So once again I'm back to where I started. Vote: Surf For not actually reading the thread, cause if you did, you would know my reason more thoroughly. What made you so willing to believe Green Baron was scum, you defended the f**k out of him, then once the heat is really on you for defending him, you throw a vote towards him... C'Mon, I can't be the only one thinking that that is suspicious. And you want to talk about tunnel vision, this whole time all you and GB have done is accuse me of being scum... serious? And that last game, I was scum, come on, we all knew it, now, I'm town, I got my head on straight, and I ain't gonna fall for this bullsh**. K? I read your reasons... and I believed you, then I saw this: I can give him this, on his last past he said his role pm said House Floater (Vanilla) which could be a safe claim, but we never mentioned the vanilla in parentheses, and that's exactly how it says it in my role pm, again this could be a safe claim, but he may be telling the truth. If he is, my next target is Coco cause I'm not buying her reasons here. This is basically you contradicting, you say he's scummy, and now he's telling the truth again? Which basically is you trying to avoid suspicion for defending Green Baron imo. (I could be wrong, but this is how I'm seeing it) And when you said this: I'd sure as hell move on to someone else if others are willing to do so as well. Unvote: Green Baron Then why don't you move on to someone else? Build up a case against someone else. (I see you've moved to me now... and this time I'm playing the game, you people are too f**king hard to please...) You say I have tunnel vision, but all I've seen you post about are me/coco/green baron I bring this up again; have you even read my analysis, I brang up everyone and how I felt about them then (given it was early, but still I've posted about everyone). I'm not hard to please, actually; and I could say the same about other people how I'm always the lynch target. I felt like he was lying at first, though I'm kinda in between at the moment. Like this makes me scummy for outing that I thought he was lying.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 15:24:45 GMT -5
And if we mislynch Az and he's town then we've gotten rid of dead weight. I get he's a power role but we really can't rely on those. Or rather, we shouldn't-- last game was an anomoly and the first time town has one in like, a fucking year lol.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 15:25:12 GMT -5
And if we mislynch Az and he's town then we've gotten rid of dead weight. I get he's a power role* but we really can't rely on those. Or rather, we shouldn't-- last game was an anomoly and the first time town has one in like, a f**king year lol. *might be a power role
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 15:26:07 GMT -5
basically i put on a little show earlier and I'll explain why 1) to draw some reactions and try to figure out thing in my own head 2) bored.
having said all that I actually starting to think Kunt is leaning town, he questioned me to draw more out of me, I guess in hopes i would hang myself, the reaction I drew from Invince was what i expected he has been flip flopping all over like a dead fish asking to be taken out but RYAN BABY, you offered nothing but jump on me as suspicious at the most opportune time. I did that last game too.
I'm very uncomfortable with Baron lynch as i think he might have a role (like Lahey last game) and I'm borderline going OCD trying to figure out invince
VOTE: Ryan
Reasons- he took nothing subtle and all cast his FOS on me at the opportune time, offered no reason and felt out of all the people questioning me he knew the answer to what i am and it was a scum move, again cause i did it last game!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 15:27:11 GMT -5
And if we mislynch Az and he's town then we've gotten rid of dead weight. I get he's a power role but we really can't rely on those. Or rather, we shouldn't-- last game was an anomoly and the first time town has one in like, a f**king year lol. bad idea.
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