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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 16:52:54 GMT -5
Why are people suddenly surprised that radio isn't eating her comeback up? She was never that successful musically to begin with. "Musically" she's been a decent success. She's sold nearly 10 million albums in the USA. Something the girl in your avatar will probably never achieve. Radio-wise, though, she hasn't been successful. You know exactly what I meant and my icon has nothing to do with it. Reported-- not because you're blatantly trolling, but because it's such a piss poor attempt.
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Post by Hussy on Aug 28, 2014 17:05:03 GMT -5
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Post by Hussy on Aug 28, 2014 17:06:32 GMT -5
Pretty sure this is not a comparison thread between the three songs, I simply asked a question about the chart peak. my EXACT same reaction when i saw that post LMAO :rofl:
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Post by dzjx on Aug 28, 2014 17:26:42 GMT -5
"Musically" she's been a decent success. She's sold nearly 10 million albums in the USA. Something the girl in your avatar will probably never achieve. Radio-wise, though, she hasn't been successful. You know exactly what I meant and my icon has nothing to do with it. Reported-- not because you're blatantly trolling, but because it's such a piss poor attempt. There was nothing wrong with what that person wrote to you, it was all true, ''Musically'' She has seen great success, 15m albums sold WW, 2 US number 1 albums, sold out arena tours etc.
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Post by surfy on Aug 28, 2014 17:34:07 GMT -5
You know exactly what I meant and my icon has nothing to do with it. Reported-- not because you're blatantly trolling, but because it's such a piss poor attempt. There was nothing wrong with what that person wrote to you, it was all true That doesn't matter. Ariana had NOTHING to do with this discussion, and this was during the CD age, when albums were at their peak. So... I do consider it trolling, as I would with any other artist so don't you DARE say it's because Ariana is involved, I don't play that way. Try again please.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 17:35:56 GMT -5
You know exactly what I meant and my icon has nothing to do with it. Reported-- not because you're blatantly trolling, but because it's such a piss poor attempt. There was nothing wrong with what that person wrote to you, it was all true, ''Musically'' She has seen great success, 15m albums sold WW, 2 US number 1 albums, sold out arena tours etc. wow
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Post by dzjx on Aug 28, 2014 17:36:37 GMT -5
There was nothing wrong with what that person wrote to you, it was all true That doesn't matter. Ariana had NOTHING to do with this discussion, and this was during the CD age, when albums were at their peak. So... I do consider it trolling, as I would with any other artist so don't you DARE say it's because Ariana is involved, I don't play that way. Try again please. Its just because Ariana's involved.
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Post by surfy on Aug 28, 2014 17:54:19 GMT -5
That doesn't matter. Ariana had NOTHING to do with this discussion, and this was during the CD age, when albums were at their peak. So... I do consider it trolling, as I would with any other artist so don't you DARE say it's because Ariana is involved, I don't play that way. Try again please. Its just because Ariana's involved. Are you f**king kidding me?!?!?! I'm not biased when it comes to discussion, I am even a BIG FAN OF HILARY! But Ariana has no association whatsoever to Hilary, so why did he bring her up? To get a rise out of the Ariana stans, please, if that isn't trolling, I don't know what is.
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Post by BadRomance on Aug 28, 2014 17:54:48 GMT -5
This is kinda lame - if this was a song from Taylor Swift it would be Top 10 by now.
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Post by JamaicaFunk² on Aug 28, 2014 18:18:23 GMT -5
Its just because Ariana's involved. Are you f**king kidding me?!?!?! I'm not biased when it comes to discussion, I am even a BIG FAN OF HILARY! But Ariana has no association whatsoever to Hilary, so why did he bring her up? To get a rise out of the Ariana stans, please, if that isn't trolling, I don't know what is. I brought her up as a simple example. People would never say someone like Ariana isn't successful musically, yet at the end of the day, Hilary has had more success (obviously I'm assuming album sales in Ariana's case). It can be any artist... For a long time, Hilary had sold more albums than superstars like Kanye West or Rihanna. She's never been seen on the same level because she hasn't had popular radio singles; but, my point is that HAS been successful musically.
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Post by surfy on Aug 28, 2014 18:21:34 GMT -5
Are you f**king kidding me?!?!?! I'm not biased when it comes to discussion, I am even a BIG FAN OF HILARY! But Ariana has no association whatsoever to Hilary, so why did he bring her up? To get a rise out of the Ariana stans, please, if that isn't trolling, I don't know what is. I brought her up as a simple example. People would never say someone like Ariana isn't successful musically, yet at the end of the day, Hilary has had more success (obviously I'm assuming album sales in Ariana's case). It can be any artist... For a long time, Hilary had sold more albums than superstars like Kanye West or Rihanna. She's never been seen on the same level because she hasn't had popular radio singles; but, my point is that HAS been successful musically. Although this is true, you intent was to get a rise out of Kunt, I know this, one does not simply point out that Artist X has sold more than Artist Y unless they are trying to rub it in... but in all truth, Hilary has sold more than Ariana, but remember the state of albums today compared to the time when Hilary was around. Also consider how successful Ariana is in every other category... I don't see why she was brought up just saying.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 18:21:50 GMT -5
That doesn't matter. Ariana had NOTHING to do with this discussion, and this was during the CD age, when albums were at their peak. So... I do consider it trolling, as I would with any other artist so don't you DARE say it's because Ariana is involved, I don't play that way. Try again please. Its just because Ariana's involved. Petty and childish.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 18:28:14 GMT -5
Are you f**king kidding me?!?!?! I'm not biased when it comes to discussion, I am even a BIG FAN OF HILARY! But Ariana has no association whatsoever to Hilary, so why did he bring her up? To get a rise out of the Ariana stans, please, if that isn't trolling, I don't know what is. I brought her up as a simple example. People would never say someone like Ariana isn't successful musically, yet at the end of the day, Hilary has had more success (obviously I'm assuming album sales in Ariana's case). The majority of Hilary's album sales are were at the peak of her television career almost a decade prior, before the digital market was booming. So the point your making is completely moot and I don't think anyone here buys it for a second that you were actually trying to make a point short of taking a cheap shot. And while we're at it, your claim of nearly 10 million albums sold in the states is flat out wrong. Santa Clause Lane: 500k Metamorphosis: 2.7 (2.6 mil last recorded) Hilary Duff: 2 million (1.8 million last recorded) Dignity: 411k That's ~6 million, fudging it upward. Not a number to scoff at, but it's certainly not the inflated number you cited. To act like she had any sort of career after her success as a television personality is ridiculous. Point blank: as much as I like Hilary, any success she may have had was more a result of her success as an actress than a musician. Now, what the fuck does Ariana have to do with any of that? Spoiler alert: nothing.
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Post by JamaicaFunk² on Aug 28, 2014 18:53:01 GMT -5
First, Metamorphosis is over 3.5 million. And, you didn't include her two greatest hits albums.
Mentioning other artists was, again, an illustration of comparing someone you said wasn't successful to someone you (I assume) think IS successful. The name won't come out of my mouth again.
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Post by L. on Aug 28, 2014 19:06:34 GMT -5
Album out 10/14.
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Post by I Wish on Aug 28, 2014 19:06:40 GMT -5
The prehistoric album sales being used for Metamorphosis in this thread, I am LAUGHING. I brought her up as a simple example. People would never say someone like Ariana isn't successful musically, yet at the end of the day, Hilary has had more success (obviously I'm assuming album sales in Ariana's case). It can be any artist... For a long time, Hilary had sold more albums than superstars like Kanye West or Rihanna. She's never been seen on the same level because she hasn't had popular radio singles; but, my point is that HAS been successful musically. Although this is true, you intent was to get a rise out of Kunt, I know this, one does not simply point out that Artist X has sold more than Artist Y unless they are trying to rub it in... but in all truth, Hilary has sold more than Ariana, but remember the state of albums today compared to the time when Hilary was around. Also consider how successful Ariana is in every other category... I don't see why she was brought up just saying. Every other category how? Box Office numbers? No. Merchandising for their television programs? No. Touring numbers? Absolutely not.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 19:08:13 GMT -5
...Most added at top 40? Did I miss something?
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Post by surfy on Aug 28, 2014 19:12:25 GMT -5
The prehistoric album sales being used for Metamorphosis in this thread, I am LAUGHING. Although this is true, you intent was to get a rise out of Kunt, I know this, one does not simply point out that Artist X has sold more than Artist Y unless they are trying to rub it in... but in all truth, Hilary has sold more than Ariana, but remember the state of albums today compared to the time when Hilary was around. Also consider how successful Ariana is in every other category... I don't see why she was brought up just saying. Every other category how? Box Office numbers? No. Merchandising for their television programs? No. Touring numbers? Absolutely not. Excuse me? What the f**k?!?! Ariana has never starred in a movie so thats out, and besides we're talking about MUSIC success... television programs have nothing to do with music either. Touring? Ummm... she's sold out many of her shows on the last tour, not to mention that she's only had 1, so your argument is invalid here as well.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 19:17:47 GMT -5
The prehistoric album sales being used for Metamorphosis in this thread, I am LAUGHING. I wasn't aware anyone gave a s**t. It's Hilary fucking Duff.
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Post by dzjx on Aug 28, 2014 19:42:30 GMT -5
The prehistoric album sales being used for Metamorphosis in this thread, I am LAUGHING. I wasn't aware anyone gave a s**t. It's Hilary f**king Duff. You completely missed off Most Wanted which pulled in 1.5m and as of a few months ago metamorphosis was at 3.9m only 40k short of 4m and also besides it being at the peak of album sales, it was 8th best selling of 2003, where did Arianas debut come in the year end charts? No. 106.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 19:43:48 GMT -5
I wasn't aware anyone gave a s**t. It's Hilary f**king Duff. You completely missed off Most Wanted which pulled in 1.5m and as of a few months ago metamorphosis was at 3.9m only 40k short of 4m and also besides it being at the peak of album sales, it was 8th best selling of 2003, where did Arianas debut come in the year end charts? Again: what does Ariana have to do with anything?
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Post by dzjx on Aug 28, 2014 19:49:41 GMT -5
You completely missed off Most Wanted which pulled in 1.5m and as of a few months ago metamorphosis was at 3.9m only 40k short of 4m and also besides it being at the peak of album sales, it was 8th best selling of 2003, where did Arianas debut come in the year end charts? Again: what does Ariana have to do with anything? Just to prove the point that Hilary has had more success than Ariana which you tried to say she didn't.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 19:50:24 GMT -5
Again: what does Ariana have to do with anything? Just to prove the point that Hilary has had more success than Ariana which you tried to say she didn't. Would you mind quoting me where I said that?
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Post by dzjx on Aug 28, 2014 19:54:01 GMT -5
Just to prove the point that Hilary has had more success than Ariana which you tried to say she didn't. Would you mind quoting me where I said that? That long post where u made up figures to make Hilary seem less successful. Anyway some people on here should really lighten up, someone made a snide comment on the internet big whoop it happens all the time. I wouldn't have even carried this on if nobody got all bent out of shape over it.
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Post by I Wish on Aug 28, 2014 19:55:17 GMT -5
The prehistoric album sales being used for Metamorphosis in this thread, I am LAUGHING. I wasn't aware anyone gave a s**t. It's Hilary f**king Duff. This coming from the guy that wrote five paragraphs attempting to downplay Hilary's success in a Hilary f**king Duff thread. The logic. The prehistoric album sales being used for Metamorphosis in this thread, I am LAUGHING. Every other category how? Box Office numbers? No. Merchandising for their television programs? No. Touring numbers? Absolutely not. Excuse me? What the f**k?!?! Ariana has never starred in a movie so thats out, and besides we're talking about MUSIC success... television programs have nothing to do with music either. Touring? Ummm... she's sold out many of her shows on the last tour, not to mention that she's only had 1, so your argument is invalid here as well. Selling out some tiny ass venues is fine and dandy but let's not claim she's some superstar when that's all she's toured thus far sprinkled with a few larger ones. Hilary was playing larger venues at 16.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 20:02:00 GMT -5
Would you mind quoting me where I said that? That long post where u made up figures to make Hilary seem less successful. ??!?!?!??! That was because I said she wasn't that successful on radio to begin with?? And she's still not?????? That still had literally nothing to do with Ariana????????!??!!!?!?!!??!??? ??!??!?!??!???¿¿¿?¿⁄¿¿⁄⁄ ¿¿⁄¿⁄¿⁄?!?!?!?!??¿⁄?⁄¿⁄¿?!¿⁄?⁄¿⁄?⁄¿¿⁄¿⁄¿⁄?!¿!¿!¿⁄¿⁄¿?!?⁄?!?!?⁄¿⁄¿⁄¿!
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Post by surfy on Aug 28, 2014 20:17:49 GMT -5
I wasn't aware anyone gave a s**t. It's Hilary f**king Duff. This coming from the guy that wrote five paragraphs attempting to downplay Hilary's success in a Hilary f**king Duff thread. The logic. Excuse me? What the f**k?!?! Ariana has never starred in a movie so thats out, and besides we're talking about MUSIC success... television programs have nothing to do with music either. Touring? Ummm... she's sold out many of her shows on the last tour, not to mention that she's only had 1, so your argument is invalid here as well. Selling out some tiny ass venues is fine and dandy but let's not claim she's some superstar when that's all she's toured thus far sprinkled with a few larger ones. Hilary was playing larger venues at 16. Ariana has earned a standing ovation from Lady Gaga at the AMAs, OPENED the f**king VMAs... did Hilary ever do that? Please stop. I mean, seriously, they have nothing to do with each other, I don't see why you guys instigated this.
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Post by surfy on Aug 28, 2014 20:18:52 GMT -5
And yes, Kunt's initial post was about POP RADIO. No mention of albums, and lbr, she wasn't that successful when you compare her to other artists of her time... I still love her, I'm still a fan, so let's just drop this s**t now.
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Post by Mega248 on Aug 28, 2014 20:33:12 GMT -5
You know exactly what I meant and my icon has nothing to do with it. Reported-- not because you're blatantly trolling, but because it's such a piss poor attempt. There was nothing wrong with what that person wrote to you The rules beg to differ: That's irrelevant, because this thread is for discussing "All About You" by Hilary Duff, not Ariana Grande's album sales. Now drop the off-topic posts please.
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Post by Kurt on Aug 28, 2014 20:34:07 GMT -5
Yes, let's drop the argument now. ...Most added at top 40? Did I miss something? Labels always seem to have a bizarre definition of "most added," yeah. I guess it sounds good on marketing materials even if it isn't true, heh.
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