onebuffalo
Diamond Member
#LiteralLegender
I am One Buffalo.
Joined: June 2009
Posts: 26,588
|
Post by onebuffalo on May 13, 2015 14:44:47 GMT -5
Still stuck at #11 because Homegrown did not go recurrent. I hope Easton Corbin can make the top ten next week.
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 13, 2015 19:17:34 GMT -5
Still stuck at #11 because Homegrown did not go recurrent. I hope Easton Corbin can make the top ten next week. This actually out-gained Tim McGraw's "Diamond Rings and Old Barstools" in audience on Billboard last week, but due to the four new stations Billboard added to the panel, McGraw still jumped this and took its top 10 spot. Mercury has probably been working this extra hard to the stations on the panel and they were about to secure a top 10 spot, but Billboard's panel change sort of threw a monkey wrench into Mercury's plans by adding four stations that weren't previously being worked. I do expect Mercury will get this back ahead of Tim McGraw's song in the next week or two once they have time to work the four new stations like they have been working the rest of the panel.
|
|
dajire4
Platinum Member
If you got such great ambition, then why are you still hanging around?
Joined: December 2011
Posts: 1,228
|
Post by dajire4 on May 14, 2015 4:24:14 GMT -5
And even if Easton does not pass Tim & Catherine this week, it'll be top 10 due to Homegrown and Say You Do being sent recurrent from above. Kelsea Ballerini is 3 million behind and Blake Shelton 4 million, so I doubt any of those can catch him, at least this week, as long as Easton posts a gain. Both will likely be trouble for Easton down the road, though
|
|
Marv
6x Platinum Member
Joined: September 2004
Posts: 6,308
|
Post by Marv on May 14, 2015 5:24:43 GMT -5
Does anyone know which four stations were added to the BB panel?
Thanks!
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 9:46:34 GMT -5
And even if Easton does not pass Tim & Catherine this week, it'll be top 10 due to Homegrown and Say You Do being sent recurrent from above. Kelsea Ballerini is 3 million behind and Blake Shelton 4 million, so I doubt any of those can catch him, at least this week, as long as Easton posts a gain. Both will likely be trouble for Easton down the road, though I actually think Mercury is going to push Easton through the top 10 as quickly as they can, like Capitol did for "Homegrown Honey," and try to keep this ahead of Kelsea Ballerini and Blake Shelton. Perhaps this can sneak in a week at #1 on at least Mediabase after Carrie Underwood (which would probably be the Billboard chart dated July 11 or 18, depending on how many weeks FGL spend at #1 with "Sippin' on Fire"). It's possible they'll even try to push this back ahead of Carrie but I don't expect that to work out right now. Does anyone know which four stations were added to the BB panel? Thanks! The four stations are: WEGB (Chicago), WPGB (Pittsburgh), KSJO (San Jose), and WZZK (Birmingham).
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 12:03:48 GMT -5
How much longer can this song go it has to be running out of steam. I know the albums coming out soon. But Kelsea and Blake aren't that far behind and it's only a matter of time before those 2 catch him. It's gonna be interesting to see how much longer this can last.
|
|
Marv
6x Platinum Member
Joined: September 2004
Posts: 6,308
|
Post by Marv on Jun 9, 2015 13:27:51 GMT -5
I would think that since this has been on the charts for half a year, his label will undoubtedly stick with it as long as possible, since it figures to do very well on the year-end charts at Billboard, and especially if it reaches #1.
|
|
:) KUFan
New Member
Joined: August 2014
Posts: 144
|
Post by :) KUFan on Jun 16, 2015 17:38:32 GMT -5
"About to Get Real" from Easton's upcoming album was released on both iTunes (pre-order album) and spotify:
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2015 0:09:56 GMT -5
I'm considering the chance of Mercury doing sort of a "stealth push" for this single next week and going for a Mediabase #1 before Blake Shelton. Easton Corbin doesn't have an official date to co-host Country Countdown USA yet, but he's pictured on the website and my guess would be that he'll end up co-hosting the weekend of June 27-28, right after Carrie Underwood. Universal has done this sort of thing before with "I Hold On" and "Homegrown Honey," scheduling artists to co-host Lon Helton's countdown show during a weekend that misleads the rival labels to not anticipate a #1 push so soon, then taking everyone by surprise and pushing ahead of the pack earlier than expected. I personally believe that this strategy of pushing sooner rather than later is generally be the best way to handle a competitive #1 push, since it decreases the likelihood of a heavy burn rate getting in the way of an older song's #1 push, by minimizing the number of weeks spent in heavy rotation. The approach Sony has taken with "Lonely Eyes" and "Little Toy Guns," of waiting around to do a #1 push as late as possible, in hopes of "waiting out" all the big hits, doesn't usually seem to work. Obviously, Chris Young missed out on #1 altogether, and generally songs that rack up too many top 10 weeks end up with a Mediabase-only #1 or no #1 at all. (Songs like "Chillin' It" and "Drinking Class" come to mind as great examples of this.)
If Easton gets a push for #1 next week, his label will basically be doing the same thing Carrie's label will be doing the week after next, calling for one week of a high amount of "#1 maximum spins," but Easton may be more likely to succeed since his song won't have been already getting heavy rotation for as many weeks before the #1 push as Carrie will have. I'll have to see how the rest of Easton's gains look this week to decide if he'll be able to do a #1 push next week. Easton would need to gain 1100 points on Blake over the next two weeks. This doesn't seem impossible to me considering "Homegrown Honey" gained 2600 points the week it went to #1, and "Friday Night" improved by 2700 points the week it was pushed to #1. Universal's promotion teams are capable of these large final week gains, but the question is whether they will see the same opportunity that I do here. Obviously, I know much less than Easton's label does about how cooperative radio would be and which week a #1 push is most likely to receive the best feedback, but it seems to me that, generally, the sooner the better.
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2015 0:05:35 GMT -5
The title track "About To Get Real" is available for download on iTunes. It sounds pretty good - I like it better than "Baby Be My Love Song" anyway, which I find to be average at best. I'm glad Easton is having success though. However, I think it's pretty telling that this one has had such low sales. His 4 previous top 10's (A Little More Country Than That, Roll With It, Lovin' You Is Fun, and All Over The Road) easily went Gold. BBMLS has only sold 205,000 so far, so even making it to 300k will be a stretch for this one.
I've been a bit frustrated with Mercury's single choices for Easton (especially with his 2nd album). Still, I'd love nothing more than for him to keep cranking out hits at country radio. He's definitely one of my favorite artists. :)
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2015 10:45:32 GMT -5
I think this one may have peaked at #4. BBMLS lost 63 spins and 108k on Mediabase this morning, and Tim McGraw (+201 spins, +1.084 mil in audience) made the pass. I'm not sure if BBMLS will plummet this week, but I don't see how it can get any higher than #4. Kelsea will most likely fall below Easton before the end of the week, but that only gets him back up to #4. Carrie and Blake are too far ahead, and Tim moving ahead was probably the final nail in the coffin.
Obviously Easton's album is out in a week and he's co-hosting Lon Helton's countdown on July 4/5, but I just don't think this one can last that long; it already looks like it's running on fumes, and it just wrapped up its 41st week on Billboard. And even if Easton can somehow hang in there for a bit longer, it's only a matter of time (perhaps days) before Jason Aldean passes him as well.
I never saw this song as a likely #1 candidate. It's just moved way too slowly, and sales have been too low. There's never really been any buzz either. I figured it would probably make the top 5 and then stall out just like "Lovin' You Is Fun" (#5) and "All Over The Road" (#3) did, and it does seem like that's what will happen.
Still, this has been a solid hit for Easton -- a top 5 peak is a great accomplishment. I just hope his next single is something that radio can't ignore, because even with BBMLS going top 5, Easton really doesn't have that much momentum right now, and he'll definitely have his work cut out for him with whatever comes next (most likely it'll be another very slow climber).
|
|
sabre14
Diamond Member
Vince Gill & the Muppets make everything better
Joined: October 2013
Posts: 26,916
|
Post by sabre14 on Jun 23, 2015 13:06:40 GMT -5
I think this one may have peaked at #4. BBMLS lost 63 spins and 108k on Mediabase this morning, and Tim McGraw (+201 spins, +1.084 mil in audience) made the pass. I'm not sure if BBMLS will plummet this week, but I don't see how it can get any higher than #4. Kelsea will most likely fall below Easton before the end of the week, but that only gets him back up to #4. Carrie and Blake are too far ahead, and Tim moving ahead was probably the final nail in the coffin. Obviously Easton's album is out in a week and he's co-hosting Lon Helton's countdown on July 4/5, but I just don't think this one can last that long; it already looks like it's running on fumes, and it just wrapped up its 41st week on Billboard. And even if Easton can somehow hang in there for a bit longer, it's only a matter of time (perhaps days) before Jason Aldean passes him as well. I never saw this song as a likely #1 candidate. It's just moved way too slowly, and sales have been too low. There's never really been any buzz either. I figured it would probably make the top 5 and then stall out just like "Lovin' You Is Fun" (#5) and "All Over The Road" (#3) did, and it does seem like that's what will happen. Still, this has been a solid hit for Easton -- a top 5 peak is a great accomplishment. I just hope his next single is something that radio can't ignore, because even with BBMLS going top 5, Easton really doesn't have that much momentum right now, and he'll definitely have his work cut out for him with whatever comes next (most likely it'll be another very slow climber). This one most certainly peaked at #4. A 63 spin loss and 108k audience loss isn't a ton but Tim passed Easton and Jason (like you said) isn't far behind. "Baby Be My Love Song" has only gained a million in total audience the past eight days and it gained just 188 combined spins the past two MB charts, which isn't a good number when your song is top 5. Mercury understands that there's no possible way they can continue to wait for a MB #1 peak when they are so far behind in the pecking order and Easton's song is ready to be given up by radio anyway, so there's literally zero point to keep this going. Mercury can now focus a little more on Canaan's single, although his song is even older than Easton's and his #1 prospects are in question as well - plus a new Jennifer Nettles single is dropping any week, Kacey's song is being released shortly, as well as Scotty McCreery's. I'm thrilled this got to the top 5 but I do understand the complaints about "Baby Be My Love Song" being vanilla and nothing special. It was however radio-friendly and right in Easton's wheelhouse and a smart single choice, especially after "Clockwork" sputtered out before the top 30. His next single will probably take a while to get up the charts, but I hope his momentum is enough to at least withstand the ultra slow 40's and 30's portion of the chart and avoid another under performing single. The sales of BBMLS have me concerned though.
|
|
bjer127
New Member
Joined: April 2012
Posts: 414
|
Post by bjer127 on Jun 23, 2015 13:13:06 GMT -5
i'm just glad the single did well enough to warrant an album. Radio really needs more neo-trad guys like Easton, to answer the growing trend of "groovy song" and everyone and their mother covering "Uptown Funk". (Thanks Bruno!). I just hope the next single can get some traction and at least go top 15. I'd hate to see another 2 years before another album is released. I think by now it's safe to say Easton will never have great momentum from project to project. Unless country radio switches back to a more traditional sound ( in my dreams)
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 5:16:48 GMT -5
And now Easton's down to #6 on Mediabase this morning; Jason Aldean has made the pass as well.
I'm quite confident that Mercury knew they never had a real chance at #1 with this, let alone top 3. BBMLS is barely hanging by a thread, but with Tim and Jason now both ahead, I expect Mercury will pull the plug on this next week, and we'll see the bottom fall out in a big way.
|
|
rsmatto
6x Platinum Member
Joined: December 2008
Posts: 6,528
|
Post by rsmatto on Jun 26, 2015 8:26:03 GMT -5
And now Easton's down to #6 on Mediabase this morning; Jason Aldean has made the pass as well. I'm quite confident that Mercury knew they never had a real chance at #1 with this, let alone top 3. BBMLS is barely hanging by a thread, but with Tim and Jason now both ahead, I expect Mercury will pull the plug on this next week, and we'll see the bottom fall out in a big way. Held on enough for the album to hit stores.
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 8:38:29 GMT -5
Am I glad this song will gone soon. It felt like it just kept hanging in there. Glad it should be leaving.
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2015 2:02:30 GMT -5
I think this one isn't quite done. Even yesterday, when the bullet reached the single digits, Easton had a nice 167k audience gain on Mediabase, so I was skeptical to say this was done. I think BBMLS has had some trouble this week due to the top 3 all receiving #1 levels of airplay, but next week I expect LTG and DRAOB to free-fall and free up some airplay. By this point, I agree with jhomes87 that this probably won't go to #1, but I do expect a final push from Mercury Nashville next week to coincide with Easton's album release week. I can see this re-passing Jason on Mediabase and achieving a #2 MB/#3 BB peak next week, which honestly isn't bad for a slow-burning song from a neo-traditionalist. This situation mirrors what we saw last March in the top 5 on the airplay charts and again the moral of the story is that, the sooner you push for #1, the more likely you are to be successful. Kelsea Ballerini's "Love Me Like You Mean It" was pushed to #1 ahead of the pack and managed to top both charts before the competition even caught up albeit a very short top 10 run (quite similar to Cole's "Ain't Worth the Whiskey"). Carrie Underwood's "Little Toy Guns" pushed the week after and looks like it will only manage a Mediabase #1, with a #2 Billboard peak, similarly to Darius Rucker's "Homegrown Honey." Mercury waited around too long with Easton, as RCA did with Chris Young's "Lonely Eyes" and as a result I think Easton will fall short of #1 altogether.
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2015 22:03:53 GMT -5
Looks like Mercury is going to keep this going for one more week yet. I'm not really sure what the point is...maybe they can get up to #3, but that would require Easton re-passing either Tim or Jason, and that just doesn't seem very likely. And if he can't get past either one of them, then BBMLS only gets back to #4 (Carrie will fall below before the week is over), which is already its peak.
|
|
Marv
6x Platinum Member
Joined: September 2004
Posts: 6,308
|
Post by Marv on Jun 29, 2015 23:11:42 GMT -5
9+ months on the charts for a song as underwhelming as this is really exasperating and especially when compared to a long-running smash such as 'Are You Gonna Kiss Me Or Not?', which wound up #1 for the entire year at Mediabase in 2011.
|
|
samsager3
New Member
Joined: March 2013
Posts: 329
|
Post by samsager3 on Jun 30, 2015 0:13:51 GMT -5
The album is phenomenal. Possible single choices for me would be diggin on you, guys and girls, damn girl, are you wth me, and like a song. Honestly it's hard to be too optimistic considering this is the second single and how slow this has been on the charts but who knows. I just think like a song is beautiful and guys and girls is the most radio friendly thing he's ever recorded by today's radio standards so there is potential for hits if radio gets behind him.
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 5:30:24 GMT -5
Looks like Mercury is going to keep this going for one more week yet. I'm not really sure what the point is...maybe they can get up to #3, but that would require Easton re-passing either Tim or Jason, and that just doesn't seem very likely. And if he can't get past either one of them, then BBMLS only gets back to #4 (Carrie will fall below before the week is over), which is already its peak. Tim began dropping today, as he was guaranteed to do after the monstrous push last week, so Easton will easily reach #3 this week. As I've said a few posts above, though, I think if Easton gets a Universal-style massive push this week, he could also hit #2 in one or both trades next week. All this would take is re-passing Jason Aldean, who is only 567 points ahead in this week's Country Aircheck magazine. We've seen UMG songs gain 2600-2700 points during their final push weeks before, so closing this 600-point gap doesn't seem impossible at all for Easton this week. As for a Billboard #2 peak, though, Easton will have a tougher time achieving this, as he's 2.2 million audience behind Aldean as of last night's BCU, and I have little doubt Broken Bow will be pushing Jason pretty hard this week. So I think I'll keep my bets on the #2 Mediabase/#3 Billboard peak situation I alluded to last week. As for what the point of this push is, I too fail to see much of a difference between a #3 peak on Billboard and a #4 peak on Billboard, especially when the song is over 40 weeks old and clearly isn't providing much of a return in iTunes sales, but I guess the logic is that Easton's team has worked on this for nearly 10 months, so they might as well keep it alive for one more week to maximize Easton's radio exposure during his album release week. Maybe Easton will have a strong turnout in album sales, since his audience may include a lot more traditional country fans who still buy full albums.
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 5:49:47 GMT -5
As for what the point of this push is, I too fail to see much of a difference between a #3 peak on Billboard and a #4 peak on Billboard, especially when the song is over 40 weeks old and clearly isn't providing much of a return in iTunes sales, but I guess the logic is that Easton's team has worked on this for nearly 10 months, so they might as well keep it alive for one more week to maximize Easton's radio exposure during his album release week. Maybe Easton will have a strong turnout in album sales, since his audience may include a lot more traditional country fans who still buy full albums. Yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head right here. A #3 peak isn't much better than a #4, but they've been at it for 10 months so why not go another week. I was thinking Tim would keep gaining this week, since he posted a gain yesterday morning (normally songs show a drop on Monday morning already if they're done), so I guess I'm just surprised that Big Machine's push correlated to the Billboard tracking week instead of the Mediabase week. That's the first time I've seen that happen in quite a while. I realize it would have been difficult for Tim to keep gaining this week, but 2-week pushes (while rare) occasionally occur, and considering Tim just co-hosted Lon Helton's countdown on Sunday, I figured he'd stay alive thru the holiday weekend in an attempt to peak at #2, or possibly even #1 on MB if he could have somehow gotten ahead of Blake (who led Tim by about 1200 points on the published chart). Although I suppose Tim co-hosting Lon's show on Sunday is probably why he was able to post a gain on Monday morning.. But anyway, I agree that Easton now has a clear path up to #3. Carrie is down 1 mil this morning, Tim lost 100 spins and just over 700k, whereas Easton gained 110 spins and about 380k. Still, I feel like Easton's push is even more absurd than what we saw with Carrie and even with Tim. I feel like BBMLS has stayed on the chart for probably about a month after its natural peak, but the label has really worked hard to make sure it'd stay in heavy rotation through his album release. I expect that this one will fall as hard (or harder) than "Wild Child" and "A Guy Walks Into A Bar" did. Anyway, as for Easton's album sales, I don't have high hopes (I'm thinking 20-25k at most). He just doesn't have much momentum right now. It's crucial that they get it right for his next single. After listening to the album, I hear several choices that I think could work, and once again I find myself surprised at the choices that they DID make for the first 2 singles. I'm sure "Are You With Me" is in the running for the next single, but if they don't go with that stellar track, then I think their best bet would be either "Kiss Me One More Time" or "Guys And Girls". "Like A Song" is an outstanding track, but probably not all that 'radio-friendly' And as much as I love "Wild Women And Whiskey", I don't know if country radio would touch a song that sounds like it's straight outta Brooks & Dunn's 1990's catalog (it was written by Ronnie Dunn). It's a great album, though. I don't think it's quite as good as his first 2 albums, but it's still really good.
|
|
dm2081
7x Platinum Member
Joined: April 2014
Posts: 7,031
|
Post by dm2081 on Jun 30, 2015 8:38:03 GMT -5
"Just Add Water" and "Yup" seemed like the two best choices for the next single IMO. Not sure if "Just Add Water" could weather the December-February months (no pun intended), but it seems like it could do fine in the warmer months. The problem is the next single will probably be another 35-40 week charter, which means it will be spend a bulk of it's time the cooler months. "Yup" is pretty catchy, and I could see it catching on much like "Yeah" did, due to similar reasons.
|
|
samsager3
New Member
Joined: March 2013
Posts: 329
|
Post by samsager3 on Jun 30, 2015 11:25:45 GMT -5
"Just Add Water" and "Yup" seemed like the two best choices for the next single IMO. Not sure if "Just Add Water" could weather the December-February months (no pun intended), but it seems like it could do fine in the warmer months. The problem is the next single will probably be another 35-40 week charter, which means it will be spend a bulk of it's time the cooler months. "Yup" is pretty catchy, and I could see it catching on much like "Yeah" did, due to similar reasons. I don't get that vibe from either of those tracks at all if anything those two seem like the biggest album filler tracks to me than singles. Just add water is too bland. Yup just seems like too munch of a ditty with a weird best to it to really do munch. I think his best bet for success next is guys and girls for sure then maybe are you with me and in the off chance he find success then like a song would be nice. Damn girl could work as well but not near as radio friendly in my opinion as guys and girls to me guys and girls is a hit waiting to happen if radio gets behind him like they should.
|
|
dm2081
7x Platinum Member
Joined: April 2014
Posts: 7,031
|
Post by dm2081 on Jun 30, 2015 12:03:40 GMT -5
"Just Add Water" and "Yup" seemed like the two best choices for the next single IMO. Not sure if "Just Add Water" could weather the December-February months (no pun intended), but it seems like it could do fine in the warmer months. The problem is the next single will probably be another 35-40 week charter, which means it will be spend a bulk of it's time the cooler months. "Yup" is pretty catchy, and I could see it catching on much like "Yeah" did, due to similar reasons. I don't get that vibe from either of those tracks at all if anything those two seem like the biggest album filler tracks to me than singles. Just add water is too bland. Yup just seems like too munch of a ditty with a weird best to it to really do munch. I think his best bet for success next is guys and girls for sure then maybe are you with me and in the off chance he find success then like a song would be nice. Damn girl could work as well but not near as radio friendly in my opinion as guys and girls to me guys and girls is a hit waiting to happen if radio gets behind him like they should. Bland songs can work on the radio though, hence why this song made the top 10. I don't find either song to be bland though, although I admit I'm a sucker for beachy type songs. "Yup" has a lot of charisma IMO, and would show his personality better than this song did. I guess we can just agree to disagree. By the way, I think the songs you mentioned could do well also, but I personally think the two I mentioned have the best shot to match this songs success.
|
|
samsager3
New Member
Joined: March 2013
Posts: 329
|
Post by samsager3 on Jun 30, 2015 13:15:33 GMT -5
I don't get that vibe from either of those tracks at all if anything those two seem like the biggest album filler tracks to me than singles. Just add water is too bland. Yup just seems like too munch of a ditty with a weird best to it to really do munch. I think his best bet for success next is guys and girls for sure then maybe are you with me and in the off chance he find success then like a song would be nice. Damn girl could work as well but not near as radio friendly in my opinion as guys and girls to me guys and girls is a hit waiting to happen if radio gets behind him like they should. Bland songs can work on the radio though, hence why this song made the top 10. I don't find either song to be bland though, although I admit I'm a sucker for beachy type songs. "Yup" has a lot of charisma IMO, and would show his personality better than this song did. I guess we can just agree to disagree. By the way, I think the songs you mentioned could do well also, but I personally think the two I mentioned have the best shot to match this songs success. I respect your opinion greatly and wish him success no matter the single. Personally I loved clockwork and this song only got top 10 dues to a manufactured push so yea it doesn't give him a lot of momentum and its extended stay may hurt him undortantly but hopefully not.
|
|
bksouthga
New Member
Joined: September 2015
Posts: 493
|
Post by bksouthga on Sept 8, 2015 22:53:57 GMT -5
I know this song peaked a while back but I thought I would be remiss to not say that it is one of the best singles I've heard this year from the standpoint of having an original chord progression. I also noticed on this one that Easton now sounds like Easton to me and not like 1981 George Strait (not that there's anything particularly wrong with that - he could certainly do worse). So yeah, I really enjoyed this one, and hope for more of this type of song.
|
|