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Post by Green Baron on Oct 28, 2014 11:17:35 GMT -5
But but...nobody buys albums anymore. I bought 2 vinyls yerday
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Post by dbhmr on Oct 28, 2014 11:18:49 GMT -5
But but...nobody buys albums anymore. It'd be an interesting study. Without giving it too much thought, it seems like most of the big album sellers (Adele still being an outlier) are people who were album sellers back when albums were still selling at least moderately well. Albums were definitely on the decline by 2006 when Taylor debuted, but going multi-platinum wasn't the crowning achievement it is today. Even artists like Carrie Underwood and Beyonce and Pink and Coldplay and Lil Wayne and Kelly Clarkson have all kind of stayed in a fairly steady stride of 1-2 times platinum, and got their start when buying albums was still a thing. But newer artists, even with great social media and streaming activity, don't seem to get the same album sales traction. I just wonder if there's a bit of a "habit" thing involved--fans are accustomed to buying albums from these established artists, and may be more likely to just stream someone like Tove Lo a bunch without actually buying the album.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 11:22:10 GMT -5
HDD updated their estimates saying they can "comfortably project 1989 will pass the one million mark in its first week of release." All You Had To Do Was SLAY :'( :'( :'(
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Post by surfy on Oct 28, 2014 11:25:41 GMT -5
I'm so happy that she is predicted to pass a million! This album definitely deserves to make history!!!
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Post by anafan on Oct 28, 2014 11:28:35 GMT -5
Impressive, no doubt!
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Post by inclinations on Oct 28, 2014 11:33:58 GMT -5
Wow, I honestly would love to see this pass Britney's record, records are made to be broken anyway. Imagine the press that would generate. I honestly think most of her country fans are still checking for her, her popularity is really unparalleled, girl is on damn Subway c'mon now!
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Post by kanimal on Oct 28, 2014 11:36:19 GMT -5
But but...nobody buys albums anymore. It'd be an interesting study. Without giving it too much thought, it seems like most of the big album sellers (Adele still being an outlier) are people who were album sellers back when albums were still selling at least moderately well. Albums were definitely on the decline by 2006 when Taylor debuted, but going multi-platinum wasn't the crowning achievement it is today. Even artists like Carrie Underwood and Beyonce and Pink and Coldplay and Lil Wayne and Kelly Clarkson have all kind of stayed in a fairly steady stride of 1-2 times platinum, and got their start when buying albums was still a thing. But newer artists, even with great social media and streaming activity, don't seem to get the same album sales traction. I just wonder if there's a bit of a "habit" thing involved--fans are accustomed to buying albums from these established artists, and may be more likely to just stream someone like Tove Lo a bunch without actually buying the album. There's definitely something to this, but we also *have* seen artists who became big sellers (or at least big opening week sellers) in the streaming era. Luke Bryan, Lorde, Eric Church, Brantley Gilbert, Lana Del Rey, Sam Smith, Ariana Grande, 5 Seconds of Summer and Ed Sheeran all emerged as solid first week sellers over the past 12-15 months. And while Sam Smith wasn't available on streaming originally, he is now, and he's still selling respectably each week. One area where I definitely think streaming (and just digital in general) is having an effect is in the saturation--and thus anonymization--of popular music. Tove Lo is a perfect example. She's played on the radio. She's streamed quite a ton. There's a sliver of hope that her song could become #1 on the Hot 100. Yet I still feel like I have to explain who she is when putting her on a playlist at any casual hang-out. People will hear the "Gotta Stay High" part and be like, "Oh, I know this song." But the name "Tove Lo" or title "Habits" meant nothing to them. I feel like people have so much instant access to new, off-beat and old/classic music now that they are more able than ever to be aware of music but not at all connected to it. But that could be an argument for another day. What's not an argument is that people *will* still buy an album if you give them a reason to. Just like people *will* still watch TV if you give them a reason to watch. -- Particularly helpful for Taylor Swift: the broad demographic appeal. She simultaneously appeals to the tween/teen and over 40s that represent the two most bankable demos for big opening week purchases. She is also the biggest star in music for those in between that group so will command whatever money they are willing to spend on music.
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Post by Caviar on Oct 28, 2014 11:37:38 GMT -5
I thought Target would be pimping her out? I had to ASK for her album on the electronics counter. No special endcap or nothing like JT got, The MJ of our generation deserves it! Yup. I went yesterday and they only had a display listing the albums "coming soon" and hers was one of many posted. Also, they didn't even have the album OUT anywhere. At first I thought maybe it was sold out but I couldn't find any labels on the display either. I assumed the physical was coming out today.
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Post by Joe1240 on Oct 28, 2014 11:40:39 GMT -5
Another thing that's not mentioned was one year ago when Katy Perry,Miley Cyrus etc. have albums open lower than predicted. Everyone was saying the pop divas sales are down and here comes Taylor and Taylor proves that female artists can still sell albums. It makes that 2013 mess forgettable.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Oct 28, 2014 11:51:21 GMT -5
But but...nobody buys albums anymore. It'd be an interesting study. Without giving it too much thought, it seems like most of the big album sellers (Adele still being an outlier) are people who were album sellers back when albums were still selling at least moderately well. Albums were definitely on the decline by 2006 when Taylor debuted, but going multi-platinum wasn't the crowning achievement it is today. Even artists like Carrie Underwood and Beyonce and Pink and Coldplay and Lil Wayne and Kelly Clarkson have all kind of stayed in a fairly steady stride of 1-2 times platinum, and got their start when buying albums was still a thing. But newer artists, even with great social media and streaming activity, don't seem to get the same album sales traction. I just wonder if there's a bit of a "habit" thing involved--fans are accustomed to buying albums from these established artists, and may be more likely to just stream someone like Tove Lo a bunch without actually buying the album. This is very interesting! I'd love for a study to be done on this... I think you're right. I remember growing up as a kid and NEEDING to get the albums of the artists I was "stanning" for: Mariah, Shania, Reba, Garth Brooks, Usher, etc... I think it's fair to say I wasn't alone. Buying albums was a huge part of the process of being a fan of an artist; arguably just as big as going to concerts. Nowadays, with the advent of digital downloads, the entire process of being a music fan has changed. No longer do you HAVE to buy physical albums, you can even pick and chose the songs you want. This has become the new form of purchasing music and supporting artists, especially for younger generations. However, those who grew up as music fans before the advent of digital downloads probably still partake, at least more often, in purchasing physical albums due to its somewhat sentimental value. There's something very special about owning an album, or a collection of albums; it's a physical and tangible artifact representing your taste in music and your fandom of an artist. So, to your point, I think there's definitely a habitual component, but I'd argue there is even more involved. There's definitely a generational aspect, too, and I think you'd find that there is a rather apparent divide regarding purchasing physical and digital albums around the years 2006-2008; particularly when looking at the artists who were established soon before and during that time period. The artists you listed were all established before 2006, and they consistently sell physical albums in rather impressive numbers relative to the dates their albums are released. However, if you sampled popular artists who were established during/after the period of 2006-2008, I'd hypothesize that you'd find physical album sales to be much less impressive across the board; despite the fact that their relative popularity is probably much higher than the artists who were established before ~2006. I'm probably stating the obvious, but I think it would be cool to see where this "divide" is, which artists are on which side of the "divide", and if there are exceptions to it...
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Oct 28, 2014 12:25:57 GMT -5
But but...nobody buys albums anymore. I bought 2 vinyls yerday Vinyl is projected to have about a 40% increase this year over 2013, which was about 40% over 2012. Of course that's coming from close to 0 a few years ago, but its still growth.
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Post by Verisimilitude on Oct 28, 2014 12:29:38 GMT -5
One area where I definitely think streaming (and just digital in general) is having an effect is in the saturation--and thus anonymization--of popular music. Tove Lo is a perfect example. She's played on the radio. She's streamed quite a ton. There's a sliver of hope that her song could become #1 on the Hot 100. Yet I still feel like I have to explain who she is when putting her on a playlist at any casual hang-out. People will hear the "Gotta Stay High" part and be like, "Oh, I know this song." But the name "Tove Lo" or title "Habits" meant nothing to them. I feel like people have so much instant access to new, off-beat and old/classic music now that they are more able than ever to be aware of music but not at all connected to it. This is why "Habits" spending so many weeks at #1 on Shazam's weekly charts is both a blessing and a curse.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Oct 28, 2014 12:35:05 GMT -5
lmao fuck yes.
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Post by Enigma. on Oct 28, 2014 12:51:58 GMT -5
I remember growing up as a kid and NEEDING to get the albums Great post, I think this is the main point.. Everybody has devices to listen their favourite music anyway, they will only buy albums if there's something very extra in the whole product. One can be a casual Katy Perry fan without owning anything that's related to Katy Perry.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Oct 28, 2014 12:53:07 GMT -5
I really didn't think she would do it this time and expected a 850-950K opening for her. Really impressive-really really impressive.
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Post by J'back on Oct 28, 2014 12:56:21 GMT -5
Yassssss!!!!! Get it tay. Very impressive. I really didn't think she'd be able to pull it off.
I'm loving the album. *bow down*
***I love the fact that Bad Blood is one of my favorites, being the Katy Stan I am***
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Oct 28, 2014 12:58:31 GMT -5
But but...nobody buys albums anymore. Yup. This myth. Just like digital albums were going to kill cd albums... 4.4 million albums were bought last week. Most were cd albums.
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Oct 28, 2014 12:59:29 GMT -5
Amazon has the physical on sale for $9.99, which I'm sure isn't hurting.
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Post by DJ General on Oct 28, 2014 13:01:53 GMT -5
Amazon has the physical on sale for $9.99, which I'm sure isn't hurting. Every retailer has the physical for 9.99 and Target has also the deluxe for 13.99 nothing special
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Post by Enigma. on Oct 28, 2014 13:12:47 GMT -5
But but...nobody buys albums anymore. Yup. This myth. Just like digital albums were going to kill cd albums... 4.4 million albums were bought last week. Most were cd albums. It depends on the artist.. Sure, AC/DC can still sell physical albums.. Can Ariana Grande? Probably not so much.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 13:12:48 GMT -5
Wow, it's only Tuesday and Hits isn't even going to try to draw out the suspense like they normally do. The first-day numbers must have sent their whole staff into shock.
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Post by josh on Oct 28, 2014 13:20:19 GMT -5
Amazon has the physical on sale for $9.99, which I'm sure isn't hurting. Every retailer has the physical for 9.99 and Target has also the deluxe for 13.99 nothing special Is $9.99 the normal price, then, not a discount? If so, very surprising Taylor of all people gets a reasonable price as the standard, since she would sell huge regardless.
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Post by Duca on Oct 28, 2014 13:35:52 GMT -5
Becomes the fastest-selling album of 2014 after just one day: 1989 will be the year’s biggest chart debut (it crushed previous first-week champ Coldplay in a single day).
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Oct 28, 2014 13:38:42 GMT -5
Every retailer has the physical for 9.99 and Target has also the deluxe for 13.99 nothing special Is $9.99 the normal price, then, not a discount? If so, very surprising Taylor of all people gets a reasonable price as the standard, since she would sell huge regardless. BestBuy $11.99 Walmart $13.88 Amazon $9.99 Target $9.99 FYE $12.99 iTunes $12.99 Barnes & Noble $14.05
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Oct 28, 2014 13:45:01 GMT -5
Red sold over 500k first day. I wonder, given they used the term "crushed", just how much more than 383k she sold.
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Post by skizzo on Oct 28, 2014 13:53:16 GMT -5
Hopefully she wont pass Britney's record.
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Post by Enigma. on Oct 28, 2014 13:56:50 GMT -5
LOL I read that she outsold Coldplay's TOTAL in a day but first week, now that makes sense.
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Post by Duca on Oct 28, 2014 14:02:10 GMT -5
Taylor Swift's new '1989' album is just $0.99 with Microsoft's Music Deals app A surprise deal from RedmondMicrosoft’s new Music Deals app only launched last week, but it’s already making waves thanks to a massive deal on Taylor Swift’s new 1989 album today. For just $0.99 you can own Taylor Swift’s latest album that only debuted yesterday. The same album is priced at $12.99 on the US iTunes Store, highlighting the 90 percent off sale here. It appears that the deals are limited to the US.
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Post by musicrocks on Oct 28, 2014 14:05:29 GMT -5
www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6296916/taylor-swift-1989-sales-1-millionTaylor Swift's '1989' Heading for 1 Million Sales DebutBy Keith Caulfield | October 28, 2014 2:33 PM EDT Swift set to become first act to earn three million-selling weeks.Taylor Swift's 1989 just keeps getting bigger. Industry sources now forecast the album to sell at least one million copies in its first week. That would make 1989 just the 19th album to sell a million in a single week since Nielsen SoundScan started tracking sales in 1991, and Swift the first act to earn three million-selling weeks. Plus: 1989 will be the first album released in 2014 to sell a million copies. The new album is Swift's fifth studio effort, released through Big Machine Records on Oct. 27. Its sales forecast is for the tracking week ending Nov. 2. It could mark Swift's third million-selling debut in a row, following 2010's Speak Now (1.05 million) and 2012's Red (1.21 million). Two weeks ago, forecasters pegged the new album to sell 750,000 in its debut frame. Then, a week ago, it was upgraded to 800,000. By mid-day Oct. 27, the album's release day, its projection grew to over 900,000. Now, after its first day on sale, forecasters are confident 1989 will cross the magic, one-million sales threshold. 1989's official first-week sales, as tabulated by SoundScan, will be announced on Wednesday, Nov. 5. That same day, Swift will most likely also debut atop the new Billboard 200 albums chart with 1989, giving her a fourth chart-topping set. If 1989 sells over a million, Swift will notch the biggest sales week for an album since her own Red registered the last million-selling week: when it debuted nearly two years ago (in the week ending Oct. 28). 1989 will also instantly become 2014's second-biggest selling album after just one week on sale. Currently, the top two sellers this year are the Frozen soundtrack (3.2 million) and Beyonce's self-titled album (787,000). They are followed by Lorde's Pure Heroine (767,000) and Coldplay's Ghost Stories (737,000). The latter is 2014's biggest-selling album released this year, as Frozen, Beyonce and Pure Heroine came out in 2013. Sources say 1989 is performing extraordinarily well in the iTunes Store and Target, with the latter carrying an exclusive version of the album with bonus tracks. Swift has been in full-on promotion mode this week in support of 1989. On Oct. 27, stopped by The Ellen DeGeneres Show, ABC's Good Morning America and NBC's The Voice, and also participated in iHeartRadio's multi-platform show "Taylor Swift's 1989 Secret Session with iHeartRadio." The next day, she was scheduled to visit The Voice again, along with a stop on CBS' The Late Show With David Letterman. On Oct. 29, she heads to ABC's The View. The following day, she's slated to perform a concert on Good Morning America.
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Post by maine on Oct 28, 2014 14:08:47 GMT -5
As much as I don't like her, I gotta give it to her though. She consistently sells, even when sales are at its lowest point in a long time. I was expecting an 800K debut to start, but now I think 1.1M will be the week sale for her.
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