Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 14:31:50 GMT -5
Zazie is right. The song didn't get to #1 on Airplay, but it's the kind of song that didn't need to in order to remain in public consciousness. There are songs that go to #1 and are never heard from again, and songs that didn't chart nearly as high yet stay in people's memories and radio playlists for ages. I doubt anyone remembers, say, "The Boys of Fall" or "Out Last Night", and they probably won't remember "Love You Like That" even when it's actually playing five years from now. But a "Save a Horse (Ride a Cowboy)" or a "Maybe It Was Memphis" or a "Girl Crush" will be super-popular after the fact, by merit of being an easily remembered, distinctive song. I agree, but that's why it's ridiculous that a song like "Girl Crush" can't get to #1, when songs that are less memorable and make less of an impact routinely make it to #1. Did this one need to hit #1? No, but really you can say that about any song. Initially I was with Zazie in that I thought this song might struggle to go top 30, but then with how this one exploded sales-wise, it wasn't a surprise that radio was forced to take notice. And so I don't think anybody should really be surprised that it ultimately went top 3, because aside from "Take Your Time", no other song this year has sold even close to what "Girl Crush" has sold.
|
|
.indulgecountry
Diamond Member
Best Country Poster 2011, 2017, & 2018
"You left a mark on my face // And brought a dozen red flags in a vase"
|
Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 26, 2015 18:58:59 GMT -5
This not hitting #1 wouldn't be such a "problem" if everything else wasn't also hitting #1. If this was 10 or 20 years ago when there were huge songs that spent 4-8 weeks at held other very big hits to lower peaks as a result, this missing the top would seem like no big deal. But it's ridiculous when songs like "Love You Like That" are going to #1 routinely and the penthouse is a revolving door for everything, except the unquestionably biggest hit in country music of the year by far. That's why this not going #1 is frustrating; not because it needed to for people to properly validate it as a success, but because it of all songs should've been rewarded as such.
|
|
kml567
Gold Member
Joined: June 2005
Posts: 972
|
Post by kml567 on Jul 26, 2015 20:00:08 GMT -5
"Girl Crush" appears to have stalled at #22 on HotAC with a negative bullet this week. Very disappointed if this is the peak. Quite frankly, HotAC doesn't seem to want to play HotAC songs anymore. I'm hearing way too much Wiz Khalifa, Kendrick Lamar and that awful "Cheerleader" song on HotAC lately. Meanwhile, a quality song like "Girl Crush" may peak at #22 (even though it's just as pop-friendly as "If I Die Young" and "Need You Now"). I wouldn't be surprised if there are lots of former HotAC listeners finding refuge in Country radio lately.
|
|
Marv
6x Platinum Member
Joined: September 2004
Posts: 6,308
|
Post by Marv on Jul 26, 2015 20:54:00 GMT -5
I agree 100% with jhomes87 about the undeniable fact that far too many mediocre and anything but memorable túnes have been shoved to #1 while tons of great tunes from many promising newcomers can't get out of the starting gate.
The inundation of the format by a slew of FGL wannabees is horrifying, and trying to decide whether Luke Bryan or Thomas Rhett will have the worst song on the radio for the second straight year is equally disgusting and horrifying.
It's bad enough that a totally unoriginal and blatant plagiaristic piece of garbage entitled All Summer Long continues to pollute the airwaves for a song that missed #1 by miles and miles while folks such as Strait & Jackson are deemed to be unworthy of heavy airplay SOLELY because of their age.
The same can be said about the treatment of females at the format; the fabulous Jo Dee Messina had THREE of the top twenty power gold tracks of the decade covering 2000-09 with Stand Beside Me, Lesson In Leaving and Bye Bye with fourr more tunes by females also in the top 20, while Miranda is the only female with a top 20 power gold cut today as Lon Helton pointed out on 6-15-15.
That is also ridiculous; quality and originality no longer matter at country radio, and that's inexcusable, and the failure of Girl Crush to reach #1 is simply more proof of the downward trend in the quality of country radio, a format which EXPLODED in popularity in 1989 and hadn't looked back until FGL started fouling the airwaves with pretentious piles of slop, unleashing droves of imitators in the process including Burnt Rice.
|
|
samsager3
New Member
Joined: March 2013
Posts: 329
|
Post by samsager3 on Jul 26, 2015 21:53:02 GMT -5
I agree 100% with jhomes87 about the undeniable fact that far too many mediocre and anything but memorable túnes have been shoved to #1 while tons of great tunes from many promising newcomers can't get out of the starting gate. The inundation of the format by a slew of FGL wannabees is horrifying, and trying to decide whether Luke Bryan or Thomas Rhett will have the worst song on the radio for the second straight year is equally disgusting and horrifying. It's bad enough that a totally unoriginal and blatant plagiaristic piece of garbage entitled All Summer Long continues to pollute the airwaves for a song that missed #1 by miles and miles while folks such as Strait & Jackson are deemed to be unworthy of heavy airplay SOLELY because of their age. The same can be said about the treatment of females at the format; the fabulous Jo Dee Messina had THREE of the top twenty power gold tracks of the decade covering 2000-09 with Stand Beside Me, Lesson In Leaving and Bye Bye with fourr more tunes by females also in the top 20, while Miranda is the only female with a top 20 power gold cut today as Lon Helton pointed out on 6-15-15. That is also ridiculous; quality and originality no longer matter at country radio, and that's inexcusable, and the failure of Girl Crush to reach #1 is simply more proof of the downward trend in the quality of country radio, a format which EXPLODED in popularity in 1989 and hadn't looked back until FGL started fouling the airwaves with pretentious piles of slop, unleashing droves of imitators in the process including Burnt Rice. What's funny is you can openly express your disgust for these song on this thread which has nothing to do with this songs success or lack thereof but yet if one were to say that a song like this with ok lyrics but lacking in true relation to anything I care about doesn't deserve to be a top 10 I wouse get berated. Anyways I couldn't disagree more with you. I believe songs make it to number 1 because they deserve to be there you might think Thomas Rhett and Luke Bryan and FGL are horrible but guess whose selling more concerts little big town or Luke Bryan take a guess. Radio knows where the money is and what's popular and that's what gets played just because you don't like it does not make it mediocre it just means it is not your taste in music personally I don't like this song but it isn't mediocre either just not my taste. Now something like " doing country right" that is mediocre.
|
|
bamafan2102
Platinum Member
Joined: October 2003
Posts: 1,780
|
Post by bamafan2102 on Jul 27, 2015 8:56:56 GMT -5
The days of a song going to #1 because it "deserves" to have been in the rear view mirror for years. All you have to do is watch the MB chart to see that. Songs go to #1 for 2 reasons these days.
1. Your name is Luke 2. Your music sounds like Luke's
There have been a few exceptions but not near enough.
Hate to see that this didn't make it to the top. Hard to believe it broke records on the new chart for weeks at #1 but couldn't reach the top for airplay.
|
|
Zazie
5x Platinum Member
Joined: September 2003
Posts: 5,144
|
Post by Zazie on Jul 27, 2015 9:49:28 GMT -5
This not hitting #1 wouldn't be such a "problem" if everything else wasn't also hitting #1. If this was 10 or 20 years ago when there were huge songs that spent 4-8 weeks at held other very big hits to lower peaks as a result, this missing the top would seem like no big deal. But it's ridiculous when songs like "Love You Like That" are going to #1 routinely and the penthouse is a revolving door for everything, except the unquestionably biggest hit in country music of the year by far. That's why this not going #1 is frustrating; not because it needed to for people to properly validate it as a success, but because it of all songs should've been rewarded as such. I think this is a well-written post, and I considered posting my own version of it, but after I tried composing one I realized I come down on the opposite side. When #1 songs are a dime a dozen, and we have the revolving door in effect (and it's even worse than that, because the manipulators are so shameless they don't even try to conceal what they're doing), I can't feel bad that a song I admire failed to be a #1. I'm now just as happy with a nice 25+ week chart run, if possible, and a top 10 peak, but without the offensive and unbelievable procession to the top. I feel the contempt of 2015's version of country radio, and I'm not going to beg for yet another slap in the face. Still less am I going to define as validation the absurd climb to be one of this year's 40 or so anointed #1 smashes. The more I go over this, the more I think it's the obviousness of the phony chart runs that gets my goat. They don't even try to conceal the moves, in which ccategory I include both fake pushes to #1 and also the decisions to delay obvious marches to #1 in order to fit in a phony one or two extras. I couldn't feel good about LBT getting to #1 under these circumstances, so I'm not going to beg country radio to provide an incredible escort to the top for a song I respect and enjoy.
|
|
samsager3
New Member
Joined: March 2013
Posts: 329
|
Post by samsager3 on Jul 27, 2015 10:28:32 GMT -5
I didn't like this song at all I don't get the hype and I honestly I like many of their past singles way better just one mans oppinion.
|
|
|
Post by Tylerjamesnerd on Jul 27, 2015 16:36:58 GMT -5
Is this going recurrent tonight on mediabase or is it still on the chart for tonight.
|
|
rbundy1987
2x Platinum Member
Joined: February 2011
Posts: 2,614
|
Post by rbundy1987 on Jul 27, 2015 16:44:00 GMT -5
Is this going recurrent tonight on mediabase or is it still on the chart for tonight. NO, this will get another 2 weeks on Mediabase since yesterday was strike 1 against it for having no bullet, to go recurrent on Mediabase, you have to have 3 bulletless weeks and yesterday on Sunday marked it's first week against it. Not this coming Sunday, but the following Sunday, August 9th, is when "Girl Crush" will go recurrent on Mediabase. Mediabase only gets rid of recurrents on Sunday afternoon updates. Now Billboard it is looking more and more like it will go recurrent on there tonight since it fell below #10's audience and spins.
|
|
rsmatto
6x Platinum Member
Joined: December 2008
Posts: 6,528
|
Post by rsmatto on Jul 27, 2015 17:14:10 GMT -5
I didn't like this song at all I don't get the hype and I honestly I like many of their past singles way better just one mans oppinion. Didn't you say this last week too?
|
|
samsager3
New Member
Joined: March 2013
Posts: 329
|
Post by samsager3 on Jul 27, 2015 17:16:54 GMT -5
I didn't like this song at all I don't get the hype and I honestly I like many of their past singles way better just one mans oppinion. Didn't you say this last week too? No last week I stated how I didn't feel this song deserved to be number 1 and wouldn't and stated my reason as to why it wouldn't. This week I simply put I felt they have had better material and still I don't understand the hype because I dont. Is t because gay rights are popular right now?
|
|
|
Post by Mikel Echarri on Jul 27, 2015 17:21:33 GMT -5
Didn't you say this last week too? No last week I stated how I didn't feel this song deserved to be number 1 and wouldn't and stated my reason as to why it wouldn't. This week I simply put I felt they have had better material and still I don't understand the hype because I dont. Is t because gay rights are popular right now? I hate the most of country songs, but this sounds so diferent and I love it, and I don't even mind on the lyrics
|
|
rsmatto
6x Platinum Member
Joined: December 2008
Posts: 6,528
|
Post by rsmatto on Jul 27, 2015 17:28:47 GMT -5
Didn't you say this last week too? No last week I stated how I didn't feel this song deserved to be number 1 and wouldn't and stated my reason as to why it wouldn't. This week I simply put I felt they have had better material and still I don't understand the hype because I dont. Is t because gay rights are popular right now? This song has NOTHING to do with "gay rights." If you think it does, you clearly don't understand the lyrics one iota.
|
|
|
Post by Mikel Echarri on Jul 27, 2015 17:40:46 GMT -5
The lyrics are about she wanna be like the other girl just to like the man of the other girl
|
|
sabre14
Diamond Member
Vince Gill & the Muppets make everything better
Joined: October 2013
Posts: 26,916
|
Post by sabre14 on Jul 27, 2015 19:54:13 GMT -5
"Girl Crush" did indeed fall from #3 to gone from the chart on Billboard Airplay this evening.
|
|
samsager3
New Member
Joined: March 2013
Posts: 329
|
Post by samsager3 on Jul 27, 2015 20:34:23 GMT -5
The lyrics are about she wanna be like the other girl just to like the man of the other girl Then I clearly don't understand the lyrics but I still don't like it.
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2015 20:54:09 GMT -5
The lyrics are about she wanna be like the other girl just to like the man of the other girl Then I clearly don't understand the lyrics but I still don't like it. It's been well-documented in this thread. The members of LBT have also publicly explained what the song is about, even though it's a pretty easy concept to grasp. The song is about 3 people. Two of them are women, one of them is a man. The man is in a relationship with woman #1. Woman #2 is extremely jealous of woman #1, because woman #1 is the one who the man is with (and woman #2 wishes she could be in woman #1's place). That's why woman #2 is singing that she wants to be like woman #1 (I want her long blonde hair, I want her magic touch, etc.), because then she figures that the man would be attracted to her instead. "Girl Crush" was released before Christmas. Everybody should know what it's about by now.
|
|
.indulgecountry
Diamond Member
Best Country Poster 2011, 2017, & 2018
"You left a mark on my face // And brought a dozen red flags in a vase"
|
Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 27, 2015 21:34:28 GMT -5
The lyrics are about she wanna be like the other girl just to like the man of the other girl Then I clearly don't understand the lyrics but I still don't like it. It's okay, I'm sure most of us find it difficult to understand your posts, so I guess we're even.
|
|
samsager3
New Member
Joined: March 2013
Posts: 329
|
Post by samsager3 on Jul 27, 2015 21:40:13 GMT -5
Then I clearly don't understand the lyrics but I still don't like it. It's okay, I'm sure most of us find it difficult to understand your posts, so I guess we're even. Well while I didn't understand the what the song was about since it's not something vie listened to more than once, I don't think there is any need for personal attacks. If you don't like my posts move on to the next one that simple.
|
|
.indulgecountry
Diamond Member
Best Country Poster 2011, 2017, & 2018
"You left a mark on my face // And brought a dozen red flags in a vase"
|
Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 27, 2015 21:55:04 GMT -5
It's okay, I'm sure most of us find it difficult to understand your posts, so I guess we're even. Well while I didn't understand the what the song was about since it's not something vie listened to more than once, I don't think there is any need for personal attacks. If you don't like my posts move on to the next one that simple. I dunno, maybe you could try reading the thread? It's not like you're bringing something new to our attention here. The lyrics and meaning of this song have been discussed thoroughly enough on this forum that you should know what the song is about by now. I mean, this thread is 18 pages long. Continuing to reiterate that you don't like it and like their other songs better is needless and then throwing in that comment about gay rights being the reason the song was a hit was misguided.
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2015 21:58:11 GMT -5
Well while I didn't understand the what the song was about since it's not something vie listened to more than once, I don't think there is any need for personal attacks. If you don't like my posts move on to the next one that simple. Correct, personal attacks are not welcome and I ask that you use the report button when you feel you see personal attacks. The report button often works better than the reply button. That said, people should sample everything generously before deciding whether they like that - that just sounds like common courtesy, especially for internet message boards. Think about cookies, though. Just like you would eat more than one cookie before deciding whether you like that cookie, you should play this more than once before saying that you dislike the song for the lyrics - especially when your interpretation was not accurate. Think about cookies again. You would never try the cookies, then say you dislike them because they were peanut butter flavour when they were actually oatmeal cookies. That may not make the most sense, but I just feel that you should know what you are talking about before you start talking - and I think those responding now are frustrated because that was, apparently, not the case here.
|
|
samsager3
New Member
Joined: March 2013
Posts: 329
|
Post by samsager3 on Jul 27, 2015 22:03:19 GMT -5
Well while I didn't understand the what the song was about since it's not something vie listened to more than once, I don't think there is any need for personal attacks. If you don't like my posts move on to the next one that simple. Correct, personal attacks are not welcome and I ask that you use the report button when you feel you see personal attacks. The report button often works better than the reply button. That said, people should sample everything generously before deciding whether they like that - that just sounds like common courtesy, especially for internet message boards. Think about cookies, though. Just like you would eat more than one cookie before deciding whether you like that cookie, you should play this more than once before saying that you dislike the song for the lyrics - especially when your interpretation was not accurate. Think about cookies again. You would never try the cookies, then say you dislike them because they were peanut butter flavour when they were actually oatmeal cookies. That may not make the most sense, but I just feel that you should know what you are talking about before you start talking - and I think those responding now are frustrated because that was, apparently, not the case here. Well I have heard this song and decided I didn't like it. If I eat the peanut butter cookie and reside its gross and bitter does it matter what flavor it is really. I was giving my opponion of the song overall not my understanding of the song. Weather I realized what the lyrics were about or not I didn't like the song either way.
|
|
samsager3
New Member
Joined: March 2013
Posts: 329
|
Post by samsager3 on Jul 27, 2015 22:04:33 GMT -5
Correct, personal attacks are not welcome and I ask that you use the report button when you feel you see personal attacks. The report button often works better than the reply button. That said, people should sample everything generously before deciding whether they like that - that just sounds like common courtesy, especially for internet message boards. Think about cookies, though. Just like you would eat more than one cookie before deciding whether you like that cookie, you should play this more than once before saying that you dislike the song for the lyrics - especially when your interpretation was not accurate. Think about cookies again. You would never try the cookies, then say you dislike them because they were peanut butter flavour when they were actually oatmeal cookies. That may not make the most sense, but I just feel that you should know what you are talking about before you start talking - and I think those responding now are frustrated because that was, apparently, not the case here. Well I have heard this song and decided I didn't like it. If I eat the peanut butter cookie and reside its gross and bitter does it matter what flavor it is really. I was giving my opponion of the song overall not my understanding of the song. Weather I realized what the lyrics were about or not I didn't like the song either way. I meant no respect was just explaining my stance.
|
|
|
Post by tim on Jul 27, 2015 22:08:03 GMT -5
It's okay, I'm sure most of us find it difficult to understand your posts, so I guess we're even. Well while I didn't understand the what the song was about since it's not something vie listened to more than once, I don't think there is any need for personal attacks. If you don't like my posts move on to the next one that simple. I'm confused. Just hours ago you were able to break down Sam Hunt's "House Party" lyrics for a poster because in your opinion a fellow poster didn't understand them. You said, "Umm actually your wrong and you have read this song wrong." And yet it's so easy to come over to another thread and do the same? I'm not one to normally reply to these types of posts, but as stated above this song has been out since December of last year and the topic of it has been discussed many times over.
|
|
samsager3
New Member
Joined: March 2013
Posts: 329
|
Post by samsager3 on Jul 27, 2015 22:28:21 GMT -5
Well while I didn't understand the what the song was about since it's not something vie listened to more than once, I don't think there is any need for personal attacks. If you don't like my posts move on to the next one that simple. I'm confused. Just hours ago you were able to break down Sam Hunt's "House Party" lyrics for a poster because in your opinion a fellow poster didn't understand them. You said, "Umm actually your wrong and you have read this song wrong." And yet it's so easy to come over to another thread and do the same? I'm not one to normally reply to these types of posts, but as stated above this song has been out since December of last year and the topic of it has been discussed many times over. And I admitted I read this song wrong and didn't understand it but that I still didn't like it.
|
|
trebor
4x Platinum Member
Rock this quiet, little country town
|
Post by trebor on Jul 28, 2015 6:33:33 GMT -5
I'm totally appalled that this lost 16.977M Audience Impressions in mere week and went free falling from #3 to #13 in the comprehensive list! The airplay chart is really out of control and radio is behaving like rats fleeing a sinking ship... :(
|
|
|
Post by Mikel Echarri on Jul 28, 2015 6:53:01 GMT -5
This needs to impact on Pop now or will be recurrent soon on the Hot 100 (the lost of audience this week has affected this a lot)
|
|
trebor
4x Platinum Member
Rock this quiet, little country town
|
Post by trebor on Jul 28, 2015 7:02:12 GMT -5
This needs to impact on Pop now or will be recurrent soon on the Hot 100 (the lost of audience this week has affected this a lot) Airplay on Adult Top 40 will have this linger around for some while as long as the digital sales don't suddenly deflate.
|
|
onebuffalo
Diamond Member
#LiteralLegender
I am One Buffalo.
Joined: June 2009
Posts: 26,595
|
Post by onebuffalo on Jul 28, 2015 15:04:00 GMT -5
|
|