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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Aug 4, 2015 16:17:20 GMT -5
Not here for basic Gaga. Keep the ideas coming though. We'll agree to something.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Aug 4, 2015 16:23:35 GMT -5
I don't want basic Gaga, but I do want some fun straightforward pop music. I feel like straight up pop music has been really bland lately. Some serviceable songs, but nothing that makes me want to stan except for a brief time period with Taylor when Blank Space came out lol.
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Post by H. on Aug 4, 2015 16:26:24 GMT -5
I hope she sings with her real voice such as on Cheek to Cheek.
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Post by Keelzit on Aug 4, 2015 16:32:32 GMT -5
She has already served straight-up popstar back when she was at the Everest of the pop scene with Lovegame and that song ended up being the less remembered of the bunch of singles she had between 2008-10. That said, I wonder how the 2016 version of that would be and I wouldn't be against it at all. I think Applause was a great blend of classic popstar sound and classic Gaga. My guess is that she'll come back with an Edge of Glory-flavored song.
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Post by ILLUSION on Aug 4, 2015 16:33:57 GMT -5
Omg, I cannot wait.
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Post by getonthebus on Aug 4, 2015 16:49:55 GMT -5
I will say for the millionth time: Serve me diamonds, serve me glitter, serve me sex, serve me just a liiiittttle tea of old school class. Goodbye to the bohemian funk and grunge of ARTPOP.
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Post by Keelzit on Aug 4, 2015 18:38:14 GMT -5
I will say for the millionth time: Serve me diamonds, serve me glitter, serve me sex, serve me just a liiiittttle tea of old school class. Hasn't she just done that with the jazz album/era though? I'm not here for Cruella DeGaga and the accompanying jazz/blues music that will follow suit. I haven't even checked Cheek to Cheek out (neither I ever plan to) and I consider myself a big Gaga fan.
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Post by Caviar on Aug 4, 2015 18:50:20 GMT -5
I will say for the millionth time: Serve me diamonds, serve me glitter, serve me sex, serve me just a liiiittttle tea of old school class. Hasn't she just done that with the jazz album/era though? I'm not here for Cruella DeGaga and the accompanying jazz/blues music that will follow suit. I haven't even checked Cheek to Cheek out (neither I ever plan to) and I consider myself a big Gaga fan. You're really missing out. She served her best vocals on that album.
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Post by itsaboutart on Aug 4, 2015 19:02:25 GMT -5
Hasn't she just done that with the jazz album/era though? I'm not here for Cruella DeGaga and the accompanying jazz/blues music that will follow suit. I haven't even checked Cheek to Cheek out (neither I ever plan to) and I consider myself a big Gaga fan. You're really missing out. She served her best vocals on that album. The thing with lady Gaga its almost impossible to know what you want from her. She is truly such a unique eclectic diverse pop artist that there are so many variations of her that could work. Im excited to see her evolution.
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Post by Keelzit on Aug 4, 2015 19:04:54 GMT -5
Hasn't she just done that with the jazz album/era though? I'm not here for Cruella DeGaga and the accompanying jazz/blues music that will follow suit. I haven't even checked Cheek to Cheek out (neither I ever plan to) and I consider myself a big Gaga fan. You're really missing out. She served her best vocals on that album. Vocals alone won't make me like a genre I don't really care about though. I've watched some live performances from this era and yeah she served major vocals but the music itself is just not my taste at all; or at least what I like to hear her on. That's why I hope LG5 is nothing like that.
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Post by The Upper Hand on Aug 4, 2015 20:55:20 GMT -5
The Do's and Don'ts of Lady Gaga's Next AlbumBy Jason Lipshutz, New York | August 04, 2015 4:40 PM EDTHow does Gaga make LG5 an unquestionable victory? By following these simple artistic and professional steps.βLG5 time.β With that Instagram caption posted on Monday (Aug. 3), Lady Gaga has Little Monsters old and new alike in a tizzy. Following her 2013 opus ARTPOP -- which scored a Top 10 hit with βApplauseβ but was met with mixed reviews and slightly more tepid sales -- with the Tony Bennett duets album Cheek To Cheek, Gaga regained some of her mojo. However, her fifth studio album (likely due out in 2016) still carries lots of question marks. What will it sound like? How and when will it arrive? Will it restore Gaga to her rightful place in the pop pantheon? These are only questions that Gaga herself can answerβ¦ but we are also here to impart some unsolicited advice. With some smart creative choices and a focused presentation, Gaga can return to the impenetrable turn-of-the-decade reign. Follow these suggestions, Lady Gaga, and just dance back to the top: DO nod to your Cheek To Cheek success. Thereβs a reason that Cheek To Cheek was a resounding success for Gaga and Tony Bennett: the duets album removed Gaga from the electronic fantasia of ARTPOP and placed the pop singer into a more traditional musical setting, one where she could thrive on her vocal ability and display her natural charisma (Gaga is damn funny when sheβs not striking her serious artiste pose!). Gagaβs next full-length shouldnβt be a jazz-standards collection, but she would be wise to include some of the same winks β and a lot of the laid-back, welcoming personality β that made Cheek To Cheek a winner. DONβT record a new duet with Tony Bennett for your album. Someday a Cheek To Cheek Part II might happen, but Gaga would be wise to compartmentalize her work with the musical legend and her solo oeuvre. Unless Gaga is planning on recording a jazz album on her own β or getting Bennett to guest on a dance single, which would also be a pretty strange task in 2015 β jamming a new collaboration into Gagaβs pop comeback would feel forced and awkward. DO record some sort of triumphant love song. Lest we forget, Lady Gaga got engaged to Taylor Kinney less than six months ago! And we could all use another high-wattage, pseudo-cheesy Gaga power ballad in the vein of βYou & I.β Lady Gaga has transitioned away from βBad Romanceβ and into a beautiful romance in real life, and she deserves to celebrate that personal happiness in her creative endeavors. Imagine if Gaga presented her fans with something akin to Kanye Westβs βBound 2β video! We already know Gagaβs affinity for motorcyclesβ¦ DONβT feel the need to make another 15-song opus. The Fame Monster, arguably Lady Gagaβs most critically acclaimed album release, only had eight new songs featured on its track list, as a deluxe reissue of her Fame full-length. Still, Gaga made those eight songs β including βBad Romance,β βTelephoneβ and βAlejandroβ β count, and ended up scoring an album of the year nomination for The Fame Monster. On the other hand, Born This Way and ARTPOP included 14 tracks and 15 tracks, respectively, and in both cases, three or four songs seemed expendable. What Gaga needs for her next album is a cohesive set of 10 or 11 supremely sturdy songs, because sometimes, less is way more. DO duet with another R&B artist. βDo What U Want,β the second single from ARTPOP and a steamy team-up with R. Kelly, failed to reach the Top 10 amid newly circulating reports of Kellyβs past child pornography lawsuits and a disastrous, Terry Richardson-directed music video that never saw the light of day. Hereβs the thing, though: βDo What U Wantβ remains an all-time great Gaga single, a combustible sex jam that lets her vamp over the slinky production. Why not take another crack at the style with a decisively uncontroversial artist from R&Bβs new school? Gaga could blow the roof off with Miguel, get introspective with Frank Ocean or convince the Weeknd to love her harder. DONβT rely on shock value. Speaking of that failed βDo What U Wantβ music video, the beginning of 2014 found Gaga pushing her art to an ungainly place, with vomiting set pieces at South By Southwest and an Artrave tour that proved less coherent than her previous international runs. The biggest shock of Cheek To Cheek (and, to a lesser extent, her Academy Awards performance earlier this year) was how un-shocking it was; here was Gaga dazzling us without all the bells and whistles, entertaining with nary a gimmick in sight. She needs to carry that straightforward approach over to her next project, and surprise her fans with killer tunes instead of garish Doritos-sponsored showcases. DO work with new co-writers. "She still insists on writing her own songs, and ARTPOP was a mess,β one former Gaga associate told Billboard last March. Thatβs a little harsh, but itβs probably true that Gagaβs solo material could use an infusion of outside talent, if only to keep her tunes as varied and as fresh as possible. Why not venture to the glittery 80βs pop realm with the Haim sisters or Tegan & Sara? Maybe Charli XCX or Jessie Ware will help Gaga find her next brat-pop anthem or torch song. Imagine what someone like Greg Kurstin could whip up with Gaga, or the explosiveness Grimes could concoct in the studio. The possibilities truly are endless. DONβT follow current pop trends. That being said, Lady Gaga doesnβt necessarily need to run to Max Martin or one of his Swedish production elves to scoop up a hit, or (shudder) work around a horn riff of the βProblemβ/βTalk Dirtyβ/βWorth Itβ ilk. Gaga has never been about abiding by whatβs in vogue, and even when her ideas have not panned out, sheβs at the very least tirelessly original. Trusting Gaga to stand and deliver means having faith that she will figure out the next direction of pop music, not regurgitate the paths that have already been explored. DO record βTelephone Part II.β Come on. Gaga and Beyonce, linking back up to continue the ass-kicking partnership set forth five years ago? Thatβs a no-brainer in terms of buzz and quality control. The nine-and-a-half minute βTelephoneβ video is among Gagaβs best and had 234 million views on YouTube β and that was three years before Beyonceβs self-titled reinvention helped her reach a new level of stardom. The fans want this, the non-fans will still listen to and watch this, and the artists themselves have always been on the same page professionally. Letβs make it happen! DONβT worry about commercial performance. Remember when ARTPOP debuted at No. 1 in November 2013 with a less-than-expected 258,000 copies sold in its first week, according to Nielsen Music, and Gaga took to Twitter to defend herself against those mocking the still-huge start as a βflopββ¦ and only brought more attention to the situation? Compare that response with the bow of Cheek To Cheek, which hit No. 1 with roughly half of what ARTPOP sold in its first week, but was touted as a triumph by Team Gaga. These things are all about expectation and perception, and if Gagaβs next album does not match the start of ARTPOP (or Cheek To Cheek) β a realistic possibility, with falling CD sales and the longer break Gaga will have taken between ARTPOP and her next pop release β she should do little more than shrug off the number and keep moving forward. After all, sheβs still a touring beast and can likely string together a few hits from the project in order to gradually regain her momentum. DO showcase your voice. The biggest takeaway from Lady Gagaβs show-stopping Oscars performance: she can still really, really sing. ARTPOP obscured Gagaβs natural gift underneath melting synthesizers and finicky song arrangements, but fans have known from the moment Gaga belted out the chorus of βPoker Faceβ that her voice is a tsunami, capable of bowling over casual fans when experienced live and in full effect. Cheek To Cheek may have reawakened the part of Gaga that wants her to sing her lungs out, and she should follow that instinct on her next project. DONβT overcomplicate your rollout. The release of ARTPOP was accompanied by a Jeff Koons sculpture, an interactive phone app, AbramoviΔ-approved performance art and lots of nudity; if you were a kid or parent trying to unlock the mass appeal of Gagaβs fun pop tunes, ARTPOP was not the project for you. Lady Gaga should never be advised to dumb down her naturally ostentatious creative showcases, but her next rollout would benefit by being streamlined and inclusive. You know what Little Monsters would enjoy more than an avant-garde rendering of their Mother? A new white-hot dance single. If Gaga keeps it simple and makes some mind-altering pop music in the most accessible way possible, the pop superstar will be back on the right track, baby. www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop-shop/6655673/lady-gaga-next-album-do-dont-analysis
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Post by Enigma. on Aug 5, 2015 8:17:57 GMT -5
That's a good article, can't really say I disagree with any of the points there.
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Post by kmbgs on Aug 5, 2015 10:32:29 GMT -5
He's calling for basic Gaga and I'm like did I write that article...
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Aug 5, 2015 10:52:00 GMT -5
Yeah I don't disagree with the bulk of that article but I don't agree with a lot either. basic gaga would be boring. I'm sure it'd still be good but only for the short term. I want to be 80, still playing Gaga's music and still being fascinated by it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2015 13:56:45 GMT -5
On Apple Music one of her Influencers is listed as "Christina Aguilera Tributes". :/
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Post by Enigma. on Aug 5, 2015 14:08:50 GMT -5
Well I didn't like how the article tried to make ARTPOP a sort of disappointment when it was hell of a lot better than BTW imo.
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Post by getonthebus on Aug 5, 2015 16:19:11 GMT -5
Well I didn't like how the article tried to make ARTPOP a sort of disappointment when it was hell of a lot better than BTW imo. ARTPOP is slaying me as I type this. I appreciate it more in hindsight (and I defended it a lot when it came out). Even the songs that miss the mark badly, like Jewels N' Drugs, she was at least pushing the boundaries. Say what you will about how she went too far, but it's not like any of the other pop girls are being very inventive the past two years. Pop music needs artists like her.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Aug 5, 2015 16:25:31 GMT -5
I listened to ARTPOP today just because and yeah, the tracks that have settled for me are Aura, Jewels & Drugs, ARTPOP, Swine, Fashion, Mary Jane Holland, Dope, Gypsy and Applause. As much as I love most of those songs, I hope she does something different than them. But BTW >> ARTPOP.
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Post by tommymonster44 on Aug 5, 2015 22:10:08 GMT -5
I listened to TF/TFM the other day and came to a realization: I wouldn't particularly enjoy those albums if they were released today. Not because they're bad albumsβI still love them and think that they are some of the best pop music released in the past decade. However, I first listened to Just Dance six years ago, and I've grown up and changed as a person. I appreciate it for its impact at the time and will always love those albums, but I never want Gaga to regress into the past.
This realization has convinced me that for Gaga's next album, I want to see her grow as a person and an artist. I want to watch her try new things musically, reveal new aspects of her life and person, and demonstrate that she has further honed her craft. The reality is that TF/TFM is essentially a conception of a teenager, but Gaga is approaching 30 with a husband these days. I want her music to reflect that.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Aug 5, 2015 23:34:25 GMT -5
I was thinking today that I really don't know what I want from her now. I love her electropopdance club bangers the most but I also want her to showcase her vocals a bit more and throw in some of her piano playing to some degree. But do I want a power piano pop album? Another dance pop album? I'd like her to keep the electro side for sure but yeah, like you said, I wouldn't want her to make something that could fit on her older albums.
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Post by Enigma. on Aug 6, 2015 1:23:27 GMT -5
This realization has convinced me that for Gaga's next album, I want to see her grow as a person and an artist. I want to watch her try new things musically, reveal new aspects of her life and person, and demonstrate that she has further honed her craft. The reality is that TF/TFM is essentially a conception of a teenager, but Gaga is approaching 30 with a husband these days. I want her music to reflect that. I might be a bit biased but I don't think Dance in the Dark (my #1 fave ever from her) and Telephone are "teenager songs".. If I understood this right. She could very well refine those two songs for the next album. But yea The Fame is pretty "immature" (with the exception of Paparazzi I'd say)
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Post by bat1990 on Aug 6, 2015 11:43:42 GMT -5
For me, Artpop was a mixed bag. I loved "Applause" when it came out and still do. I remember the day I bought the album, I began listening and was slayed by the 1-2-3-4 of Aura-Venus-GUY-SexxxDreams and thought the rest of the album would be just as amazing. But everything between Sexxx Dreams and Gypsy (except Do What U Want) were not memorable at all. The highest point among these songs for me was the piano intro of "Fashion!" (which is also prb why I was underwhelmed by the ArtRAVE Tour because of how ARTPOP heavy the setlist was). So I hope she gives something leaner with quality from beginning to end like TFM or the standard 14-track version of BTW.
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Post by popbox on Aug 23, 2015 22:13:52 GMT -5
I listened to TF/TFM the other day and came to a realization: I wouldn't particularly enjoy those albums if they were released today. Not because they're bad albumsβI still love them and think that they are some of the best pop music released in the past decade. However, I first listened to Just Dance six years ago, and I've grown up and changed as a person. I appreciate it for its impact at the time and will always love those albums, but I never want Gaga to regress into the past. This realization has convinced me that for Gaga's next album, I want to see her grow as a person and an artist. I want to watch her try new things musically, reveal new aspects of her life and person, and demonstrate that she has further honed her craft. The reality is that TF/TFM is essentially a conception of a teenager, but Gaga is approaching 30 with a husband these days. I want her music to reflect that. I'd say they've really become dated in the last year or two. I feel like we're pretty far removed from the scene of 2009-2010 now, and it's really starting to feel like a whole other era in time now opposed to "just a few years ago." Hence why they're starting to sound dated. Dated isn't synonymous with bad though, in this case I just mean they don't sound current or like they would fit in today's music scene anymore. I don't at all feel like their quality has receded or that I'm too "mature" or anything like that for them now. I still believe the music on those albums remain her most universally appealing music by a mile. I think if she can bring that sound more into this decade sonically, while giving us some new topics lyrically that reflect her life now, then that's what she should do for this era. Of course I do hope that we get some newfound maturity in her writing and music, but I certainly don't want her becoming Adele or anything in terms of what her music is about and sounds like.
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Post by getonthebus on Aug 26, 2015 10:52:52 GMT -5
I'd say there's an outside chance we'll get her RedOne collab in Q4 to go along with her AHS role. Just imagine how bald you will be the first time you hear her iconic "A RedOne!" on the radio after so many years.
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Post by kmbgs on Aug 26, 2015 11:48:14 GMT -5
She should give Monster the single release it deserved in connection with AHS - a fan can dream right
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Post by when the pawn... on Aug 26, 2015 11:56:37 GMT -5
I have a feeling there will be no new music in 2015 and then a release plan similar-ish to Born This Way - single late Winter/early Spring and album in May.
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Post by getonthebus on Aug 26, 2015 14:19:28 GMT -5
If the RedOne song is for his album, it would be a good way to have her on radio without interfering with her own releases. I'm not sure he's far enough along to drop a lead single though.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Aug 26, 2015 16:22:31 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm thinking new music won't come until after the AHS season is over. Or at least halfway through.
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Post by SoMuchToSay on Aug 26, 2015 23:04:45 GMT -5
If the RedOne song is for his album, it would be a good way to have her on radio without interfering with her own releases. I'm not sure he's far enough along to drop a lead single though. I'm curious what RedOnce and Gaga will come up with. He recently co-wrote the new single by The Band Perry called Live Forever and it's so addictively catchy. He kinda fell off of the map after that failed record label venture with J-Lo, Midnight Red and others.
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Post by bat1990 on Sept 18, 2015 10:27:51 GMT -5
"Til It Happens To You" is out today!
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