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Post by sabre14 on Apr 16, 2015 20:43:17 GMT -5
If this doesn't pick up and at least make the top 20, I'd be surprised if they pushed a fourth single. Stranger things have happened though. Their momentum is pretty much nonexistent at this point. I think that they should ride this single out, then take a few months away to come back with something solid and more in line with their earlier sound. They've already laid down tracks in the studio a couple weeks back before they left for a few shows outside the United States but we don't know if that's for their next studio album or another project all together.
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Post by someguy on Apr 16, 2015 20:45:22 GMT -5
A greatest hits with a couple of solid new songs could work if they want something to be more released a little more quickly.
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Post by layne on Apr 16, 2015 20:53:20 GMT -5
If this doesn't pick up and at least make the top 20, I'd be surprised if they pushed a fourth single. Stranger things have happened though. Their momentum is pretty much nonexistent at this point. I think that they should ride this single out, then take a few months away to come back with something solid and more in line with their earlier sound. I agree with them taking some time off but I feel like this single is more in line with their earlier sound. This reminds me of something that would have fit in well on their first 2 albums at least.
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Post by sabre14 on Apr 16, 2015 20:54:16 GMT -5
A greatest hits with a couple of solid new songs could work if they want something to be more released a little more quickly. Judging by the way these past couple singles are performing, they might have to get something out there quicker than they like to. Who knows though with this group. "Compass" came out of the blue then "Bartender" followed immediately. In all seriousness, we still have the rest of "Long Stretch Of Love's" chart run before anything happens.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Apr 20, 2015 11:05:28 GMT -5
WKCQ has played "Freestyle" at least three times last week. The other day, they played it, then "Wanted You More" less than an hour later. I was stunned by the latter, since I only heard it like five times when it was on the charts, and zero times afterward.
Their playlist is apparently looser on the weekends. I remember they used to have a habit of playing "Nobody Wins" right in the middle of a string of modern country.
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Post by blueguitar on Apr 20, 2015 11:14:35 GMT -5
I am not a fan of Lady A by any means. Most of their music bores me to death with the exception of the fantastic "Need You Now". But after hearing this last night on the ACMs, I think this is one of the best songs they have put out in quite a while. I may even purchase it. Is it just me or did anyone else get a Fleetwood Mac vibe in the last 1/3 of the song last night??? Maybe that is what attracted me to this song.
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Post by Connor Walsh on Apr 20, 2015 11:22:10 GMT -5
I lost them after Just A Kiss. I used to LOVE them now I just don't care, like they release a song and me acting like yeah! whatever.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Apr 20, 2015 19:35:48 GMT -5
I lost them after Just A Kiss. I used to LOVE them now I just don't care, like they release a song and me acting like yeah! whatever. That's the last single they've released that I've been really excited about as well. Their debut album is still one of my all-time favorite albums, so it's such a shame that nothing else they've made has even been half as good. But Lady A's real problem has been single choices. These last two eras particularly. How the spectacular "Lie With Me" hasn't been released yet is beyond me. Hands-down the best song on the album in my opinion. There are several songs stronger than "Long Stretch of Love" on the album so I'm a little baffled by this single choice, but the real problem is that "Freestyle" is far and away the worst song on 747. I will never understand that decision.
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Post by sgtoddball on Apr 21, 2015 13:29:25 GMT -5
This sounded incredible live at the ACM's. I have a feeling it won't matter though. This group has been all over the map with their sound and direction and once you bail on what got you there, it's hard to ever recapture the interest of fans.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2015 19:18:04 GMT -5
What happened to this group's fans? Lady A went from being able to sell nearly 500,000 albums in a week in January 2010, to now, where it's like only 5 people know they have a new song on the radio. "Long Stretch Of Love" isn't even in the top 200 on the iTunes country chart...but virtually every other new artist on the airplay chart is in the iTunes top 200: Maddie & Tae is in the 50's, Kip Moore is right around #60, Mickey Guyton is in the 70's, Dan + Shay, Parmalee, Eli Young Band, and Brothers Osborne are just out of the top 100, Jana Kramer is at #30, Kacey Musgraves is at #40, Cole Swindell and Old Dominion are in the 60's, Drake White is in the 150's, Sam Hunt's "House Party" is #31 already...even Love and Theft's independently-released "Whiskey On My Breath" isn't far outside the top 100.
Granted, there are other artists (Gloriana, Gary Allan, Thompson Square, Casey James, Montgomery Gentry, Chase Bryant, Toby Keith, RaeLynn, Logan Mize, and Waterloo Revival) who aren't in the country iTunes top 200 with their current singles either, but aside from Toby (whose career is winding down), none of them were ever as big as Lady A was just a few short years ago. Gary Allan and Montgomery Gentry are unfortunately in the twilight phases of their careers as well (at least at radio, that is).
At this point, I think Lady A is going to struggle just to crack the top 30 (similar to what we're seeing with Rascal Flatts' "Riot"), and I definitely think this will be their first single to miss the top 20. This song is being completely overlooked, and artists who are on just their first or second career single (and who don't yet have a hit) are doing way better.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2015 20:33:09 GMT -5
What happened to this group's fans? Lady A went from being able to sell nearly 500,000 albums in a week in January 2010, to now, where it's like only 5 people know they have a new song on the radio. "Long Stretch Of Love" isn't even in the top 200 on the iTunes country chart... I have this belief (perhaps incorrect) that certain artists appeal more to fickle audiences, which is seen more at pop radio. The artists that attract these "easy come, easy go" fans tend to have a shorter shelf-life. When Lady A burst on the scene, I think they attracted a lot of this type of fan. Just by their nature, I think these fans tend to move on quickly. That's why I don't see FGL being as huge as they were in their debut ever again. They will always have the fans who like them for them, but they will at some point lose the fans who liked them because they popped on the scene as the new big act. I think Rascal Flatts may be seeing *a little* of that right now, as I think they attracted some of this fickle fanbase in their earlier years. It may be a flawed or incomplete theory (feel free to add to it) but I think looking at acts like Kenny Chesney and Brad Paisley shows a lot more musical identity and staying power potential for the fans than more "next big thing" pop-influenced acts like [perhaps] a Lady Antebellum or Florida Georgia Line.
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 3, 2015 3:31:47 GMT -5
I think Lady A got as big as they were because of crossover success, but they haven't anything in the way of a crossover hit since "Just a Kiss," so they aren't reaching a lot of the audience that I think was buying their music during their height of popularity. They also keep making terrible decisions like releasing "Freestyle" as a single, which shows that they/their team are becoming out-of-touch with what the fans want. I'm a little surprised this isn't doing better, but the damage done by "Freestyle" may have been too great to recover from. I believe this would've done far better had it been sent to radio as the second single.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on May 3, 2015 19:21:27 GMT -5
For some reason, WKCQ is obsessed with playing "Wanted You More" lately. I have heard them play it at least FIVE TIMES in the past month. That is incredibly out of character for them. And one of the instances was followed up by "Freestyle" less than half an hour later.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2015 20:55:43 GMT -5
I never considered myself a Lady A fan, but I've enjoyed a few of their singles (American Honey, Love Don't Live Here, Downtown & NYN before it was deathly overplayed).
I feel like LA had a great spark when they started out, but over the years they became way too bland and lost their fresh, youthful sound.
The current single is no exception, and I find Lady A's brand of AC lite Country to be unlistenable at times; the parallels between Lady A and Rascal Flatts is interesting, because there are so many.
That said, I still feel that Rascal Flatts at least cemented their place in the genre with their domination, whereas Lady A is on much shakier ground in terms of their future career meaning much of anything as far as impact.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 15:46:24 GMT -5
Audience gains for this on Mediabase will be misleading this week. Westwood One has added this and so far it's received four spins from them this week, which translates to 353k audience. Since Westwood One isn't on the Billboard panel, this won't see the same gains on the Billboard chart. I expect this to make the top 30 but not do much more than that. This is easily one of the worst sellers on the chart right now.
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Post by sabre14 on May 25, 2015 19:42:40 GMT -5
Hey I actually heard this on the car radio for the first time since it was released. Like I said before, this is miles better than "Freestyle", though the shock waves of that song is unfortunately still being felt. If it weren't for Westwood One, this song would be doing even worse on MB than it has done so far. Of course Billboard wise, that means its having less gains. I can't believe how bad their sales are. Drake White should not be outselling Lady A two to one - with "Long Stretch Of Love" of having 4x more audience than "It Feels Good".
This song did gain 600k in audience this week on MB (without the increase of spins on W1), so at least this song is starting to pick up a little life but I still agree with the above statements in this thread that this will not make the top 20. Their label absolutely shot themselves in the foot with releasing "Freestyle", and all the momentum they got from their #1 single "Bartender" has evaporated in quick fashion.
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Post by sgtoddball on Jun 11, 2015 9:32:11 GMT -5
Another very good live performance of this song last night. Colored me shocked that this song is selling so poorly. It's not the greatest song they have done but it's certainly not the worst and they were one of the better performances last night I thought.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2015 11:45:29 GMT -5
I heard this on the radio for the first time yesterday, and I can't say I'm not surprised it's not doing so well.
Although the harmonies are much more present here than on their past few singles, the lyrical quality is still subpar, and the production is a bit muddled for my taste.
This strikes me as a song that tries to achieve middle ground of their debut sound and their current one, but it falls short by a considerable margin.
On another note, it makes me a bit sad that almost every Country group in recent years has changed considerably with ZBB going to the Rock side, Lady A and Rascal Flatts vying for the Pop/crossover sound, and even TBP losing their once unique Country flavor.
It'd be nice if these acts would just be themselves and stick to a unique sound, because it seems like they've all sold out for the sake of radio play and big hits.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2015 7:48:26 GMT -5
Well good job to Lady A for sneaking into The Top 30 this week on MB. Maybe the song has begun to spark but I doubt it.
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 29, 2015 14:00:13 GMT -5
"Long Stretch Of Love" is looking get close to 20 adds this week. Lady A gained 340 spins and 2.5 million in audience this past week on MB and the sales have picked up a little, though they're still not good (#600 on the all-genre chart).
I still see this song not getting any higher than the top 20 but at least its showing life.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2015 14:11:56 GMT -5
I hope this song can keep up. I do like the song. Hopefully it won't do what Dan + Shay did this week and backpedal. If the sales can somehow pick up than it could eek into the Top 15. I think the goal I would imagine is to outmatch Freestyle's peak so they have a little momentum going into the next album. Which btw Lady Antebellum needs to spend a year off so they can really comeback strong.
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Post by rsmatto on Jun 29, 2015 15:11:18 GMT -5
I hope this song can keep up. I do like the song. Hopefully it won't do what Dan + Shay did this week and backpedal. If the sales can somehow pick up than it could eek into the Top 15. I think the goal I would imagine is to outmatch Freestyle's peak so they have a little momentum going into the next album. Which btw Lady Antebellum needs to spend a year off so they can really comeback strong. Dan+Shay are smaller stars so I'm not surprised they backpedaled a bit. I doubt though, honestly, that their song or this one are done yet.
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 29, 2015 15:14:57 GMT -5
I hope this song can keep up. I do like the song. Hopefully it won't do what Dan + Shay did this week and backpedal. If the sales can somehow pick up than it could eek into the Top 15. I think the goal I would imagine is to outmatch Freestyle's peak so they have a little momentum going into the next album. Which btw Lady Antebellum needs to spend a year off so they can really comeback strong. Dan+Shay are smaller stars so I'm not surprised they backpedaled a bit. I doubt though, honestly, that their song or this one are done yet. "Long Stretch Of Love" is certainly not close to being done yet, after what looks to be 17-18 adds this week and gaining over 400 spins and nearly 3.0 million in audience the past eight days.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jun 29, 2015 15:28:52 GMT -5
Glad to see some life breathed into this one. The sales are unfortunate to see, especially since I like the song quite a bit, but I'm glad that radio is keeping it going. I was beginning to think this might not make the Top 20, but another peak in that range would be nice enough.
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Post by rsmatto on Jun 29, 2015 15:40:56 GMT -5
Glad to see some life breathed into this one. The sales are unfortunate to see, especially since I like the song quite a bit, but I'm glad that radio is keeping it going. I was beginning to think this might not make the Top 20, but another peak in that range would be nice enough. Keeps them in the ears of listeners and the eyes of radio. It still could pick up in sales but it's likely just one of those songs that doesn't move the needle enough to get people to buy it, not unlike many Adult Contemporary songs.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 5:08:43 GMT -5
Personal opinions aside, I'm very dissatisfied with this chart run. The sales and research numbers clearly imply that there's pretty much no listener interest in this single, just as there wasn't for "Freestyle," and by the way this struggled from very early on in its chart run it was clear radio didn't like this at all. It seems to me several factors have come into play here to help Lady A and their label to manufacture a hit out of a song that may not have charted were it released by a no-name artist.
First, there was the Keith Hill controversy that made radio programmers re-consider some of their programming decisions. Rather than increasing airplay for female songs that are actually selling (i.e. "I Got the Boy" and "For a Boy") it seems radio instead jumped on female-led songs from acts that have already established themselves, thinking their voices are less likely to be "risky" on the radio or jarring to the sensitive country radio listener's ear, or some other nonsense like that.
Secondly, Lady Antebellum was completely undeservedly given the opening performance on the CMT Awards show in June, which probably succeeded in leading to a small spike in iTunes sales albeit also contributing to the massive (nearly 2 million-viewer) drop in ratings from the 2014 show. I have little doubt that the Keith Hill controversy and/or some shady deals between Lady A's team and CMT played a role in the decision to make this song the first performance of the night. This is especially ridiculous when you consider that Dierks Bentley didn't get any sort of performance whatsoever on this show despite having one of the hugest videos of the year and a nomination for the top title of the night.
The final factor that seems to have come into play here, aside from perhaps some shady "promotion" from country's juggernaut label Capitol Nashville, is simply the lack of up-tempo hits that are selling well towards the bottom of the chart. My guess would be that radio programmers looking for new music to add chose Lady A's snoozer tune over other songs due to name recognition, tempo, and research numbers that aren't good at all but don't indicate strong negative passion either, since the general country radio mindset seems to be that it's safer to play something that no one likes than it is to play something that a lot of people like but also a lot of people hate.
I was outraged seeing the embarrassingly poor seller "Freestyle" earn a much-coveted Top 20 peak position simply due to name recognition while there are so many newer artists with better sales struggling to crack the Top 40. However, I thought that "Freestyle" would've at least served as a transitional single so Lady A wouldn't have enough momentum to get another "flop" up the charts, but I am disappointed to see that radio is still giving this band a large amount of unmerited airplay for the second time in a row. I have nothing against this band and don't mean to come across as a "hater," but manufactured chart runs like this are in my opinion one of the reasons why country radio's ratings have been going down. There can be a single that listeners clearly don't care for, but if programmers are being compensated enough for playing something that could hurt their ratings, they have no problem keeping the single in rotation for several months past the time listeners have had enough of it.
I'm sure "Long Stretch of Love" won't go much higher and a peak in the upper 20's is most likely, but even a peak this high is about 20 spaces higher than this should have gotten and 40 spaces higher than this would have made it if it were recorded by an artist not on Capitol Nashville or with no name recognition.
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Post by sgtoddball on Jun 30, 2015 8:38:27 GMT -5
Personal opinions aside, I'm very dissatisfied with this chart run. The sales and research numbers clearly imply that there's pretty much no listener interest in this single, just as there wasn't for "Freestyle," and by the way this struggled from very early on in its chart run it was clear radio didn't like this at all. It seems to me several factors have come into play here to help Lady A and their label to manufacture a hit out of a song that may not have charted were it released by a no-name artist. First, there was the Keith Hill controversy that made radio programmers re-consider some of their programming decisions. Rather than increasing airplay for female songs that are actually selling (i.e. "I Got the Boy" and "For a Boy") it seems radio instead jumped on female-led songs from acts that have already established themselves, thinking their voices are less likely to be "risky" on the radio or jarring to the sensitive country radio listener's ear, or some other nonsense like that. Secondly, Lady Antebellum was completely undeservedly given the opening performance on the CMT Awards show in June, which probably succeeded in leading to a small spike in iTunes sales albeit also contributing to the massive (nearly 2 million-viewer) drop in ratings from the 2014 show. I have little doubt that the Keith Hill controversy and/or some shady deals between Lady A's team and CMT played a role in the decision to make this song the first performance of the night. This is especially ridiculous when you consider that Dierks Bentley didn't get any sort of performance whatsoever on this show despite having one of the hugest videos of the year and a nomination for the top title of the night. The final factor that seems to have come into play here, aside from perhaps some shady "promotion" from country's juggernaut label Capitol Nashville, is simply the lack of up-tempo hits that are selling well towards the bottom of the chart. My guess would be that radio programmers looking for new music to add chose Lady A's snoozer tune over other songs due to name recognition, tempo, and research numbers that aren't good at all but don't indicate strong negative passion either, since the general country radio mindset seems to be that it's safer to play something that no one likes than it is to play something that a lot of people like but also a lot of people hate. I was outraged seeing the embarrassingly poor seller "Freestyle" earn a much-coveted Top 20 peak position simply due to name recognition while there are so many newer artists with better sales struggling to crack the Top 40. However, I thought that "Freestyle" would've at least served as a transitional single so Lady A wouldn't have enough momentum to get another "flop" up the charts, but I am disappointed to see that radio is still giving this band a large amount of unmerited airplay for the second time in a row. I have nothing against this band and don't mean to come across as a "hater," but manufactured chart runs like this are in my opinion one of the reasons why country radio's ratings have been going down. There can be a single that listeners clearly don't care for, but if programmers are being compensated enough for playing something that could hurt their ratings, they have no problem keeping the single in rotation for several months past the time listeners have had enough of it. I'm sure "Long Stretch of Love" won't go much higher and a peak in the upper 20's is most likely, but even a peak this high is about 20 spaces higher than this should have gotten and 40 spaces higher than this would have made it if it were recorded by an artist not on Capitol Nashville or with no name recognition. The same exact points about shady promotion can be made for Kenny Chesney's "Till It's Gone". The song didn't sell well and it made it all the way up the chart because he's Kenny Chesney. I don't think Lady A has had a ton of love from Radio. They have had several singles flame out from their last 3 albums and in the case of "Wanted You More" that song sold very well but radio never got on board.
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 30, 2015 12:47:03 GMT -5
The final factor that seems to have come into play here, aside from perhaps some shady "promotion" from country's juggernaut label Capitol Nashville, is simply the lack of up-tempo hits that are selling well towards the bottom of the chart. My guess would be that radio programmers looking for new music to add chose Lady A's snoozer tune over other songs due to name recognition, tempo, and research numbers that aren't good at all but don't indicate strong negative passion either, since the general country radio mindset seems to be that it's safer to play something that no one likes than it is to play something that a lot of people like but also a lot of people hate. I was outraged seeing the embarrassingly poor seller "Freestyle" earn a much-coveted Top 20 peak position simply due to name recognition while there are so many newer artists with better sales struggling to crack the Top 40. However, I thought that "Freestyle" would've at least served as a transitional single so Lady A wouldn't have enough momentum to get another "flop" up the charts, but I am disappointed to see that radio is still giving this band a large amount of unmerited airplay for the second time in a row. I have nothing against this band and don't mean to come across as a "hater," but manufactured chart runs like this are in my opinion one of the reasons why country radio's ratings have been going down. There can be a single that listeners clearly don't care for, but if programmers are being compensated enough for playing something that could hurt their ratings, they have no problem keeping the single in rotation for several months past the time listeners have had enough of it. I'm sure "Long Stretch of Love" won't go much higher and a peak in the upper 20's is most likely, but even a peak this high is about 20 spaces higher than this should have gotten and 40 spaces higher than this would have made it if it were recorded by an artist not on Capitol Nashville or with no name recognition. I agree with you for the most part as I do think country radio's programming ways has hindered their overall ratings. However name recognition does hold merit to radio programmers, whether people like it or not. I had an interesting conversation with a friend who will remain nameless who worked and still works for WYRK, here in Buffalo. This was about two to three years ago but when discussing how radio is handled these days in terms of programming strategy, he said that even though they follow market research (just like any company or corporation) and they pay attention to listener reaction (sales, call ins), name recognition is still a huge deciding factor when determining which songs to add and which songs to convert into medium rotation. Radio plays songs from artist they assume their listeners will want to hear (elder country starts not withstanding - George, Alan, Toby - which is another problem all together IMO, but I digress), and Lady A still has serious name recognition. The thing that helps them more than others with name recognition is that they are still very young and young into their career's (they broke out in 2008). So even though this group has struggles with poor single choices and lack of interest, their past success which earned them that name recognition has caused radio to treat them holier than other (perhaps more deserving) artists. That being said, at some point that well will run dry if they cannot salvage their sales and chart success, eventually. "Bartender" and "Downtown" were vital to keeping their mojo going with country radio, but as we've seen with the sales and chart runs from "Freestyle" and "Long Srtetch Of Love", this group is showing danger signs of fading from the spotlight. Good chart runs with mediocre to poor sales is something country radio has done numerous times in the past ("'Til It's Gone", "Trouble", "Baby Be My Love Song"), so that unfortunately is nothing new. Label promotion is another deciding factor with pre-made relationships with many radio promotion people and station heads. Friendships go a long way in this industry, as does name recognition, and that will likely never change when it comes to which songs have more successful chart runs then they deserve. I think "Long Stretch Of Love' can reach the top 20 but anything after that is iffy since this song hasn't sold well and it has already burned up 15 weeks on the chart, which is a lot for an act like Lady Antebellum.
Also, the Cumulus black added this one (no surprise). The other three adds were iHeartMedia, including WEBG in Chicago, which is a huge add. New York City and Atlanta (Cumulus) were other big market stations among the adds.
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