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Post by Kishi KCM on May 6, 2016 8:45:37 GMT -5
I'm seriously heartbroken. I haven't been obsessed with a song this much since "No Sleeep" and was hoping "Kiss It Better" would top a radio format like that song did.
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Post by Fancy on May 6, 2016 8:47:40 GMT -5
still trying to understand why they did a dual release when they knew the calvin collab was coming.
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Post by Caviar on May 6, 2016 8:49:56 GMT -5
Well according to Calvin she recorded it right after coachella a few weeks ago.
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Post by FoolMoonz on May 6, 2016 8:52:23 GMT -5
I'm seriously heartbroken. I haven't been obsessed with a song this much since "No Sleeep" and was hoping "Kiss It Better" would top a radio format like that song did. My thoughts exactly. This song is paid dust. I'm not afraid to say it's the best song of her entire career yet everyone is sleeping on it :bert:
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Post by AP on May 6, 2016 9:27:09 GMT -5
Well according to Calvin she recorded it right after coachella a few weeks ago. I heard that too (on here - not sure of the poster) - but then watched an interview with Calvin where he said it was recorded in November 2015.
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Post by Caviar on May 6, 2016 9:33:16 GMT -5
Well according to Calvin she recorded it right after coachella a few weeks ago. I heard that too (on here - not sure of the poster) - but then watched an interview with Calvin where he said it was recorded in November 2015. Wow. Didn't know that!
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 9:44:41 GMT -5
I'm seriously heartbroken. I haven't been obsessed with a song this much since "No Sleeep" and was hoping "Kiss It Better" would top a radio format like that song did. My thoughts exactly. This song is paid dust. I'm not afraid to say it's the best song of her entire career yet everyone is sleeping on it :bert: There's a big upside to this... it won't get played out and ruined. I've kinda learned that I prefer my favorite songs to not become hits for this very reason. As for the competition with TIWYCF... they are very different songs - so like JB's simultaneous hits, they both could be big pop hits at the same time with the right amount of genuine interest. I just don't think KIB is connecting with the GP the way it does for some of us.
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Post by divasummer on May 6, 2016 9:45:49 GMT -5
Right when it starts to slightly pick up steam on ITunes radio seems to be done with it. For her personally it doesn't matter because "Needed Me" and the song with Calvin are doing great. I feel bad for fans of the song though. lol She could have released this later on it's own. It's not to far off from some of her Urban stuff??? I guess I can see them wanting something from her on pop radio when "Anti" was released. "Work" was still getting some play at the time. Maybe they didn't know the song with Calvin was coming out?? Who knows what her label is thinking. I guess the Calvin song is more important than than this single to them??
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Post by Kishi KCM on May 6, 2016 11:35:06 GMT -5
This should have gotten a release of it's own and released to all formats. It just seems like it wasn't meant to be for this song...from the Grammy cancellation to the early peaking. Sad. :(
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Post by Az Paynter on May 6, 2016 11:42:53 GMT -5
Well according to Calvin she recorded it right after coachella a few weeks ago. I heard that too (on here - not sure of the poster) - but then watched an interview with Calvin where he said it was recorded in November 2015. But did he say Rihanna recorded it in November (or specify a vocalist at all)? 'Cause I think someone said in the TIWYCF thread that Zara Larsson cut a vocal for the track. It could be the case that Calvin did the song with Zara in November, and then played it for Rihanna at Coachella, which led to Rihanna replacing Zara on the track.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 11:55:48 GMT -5
This sounds heavenly on the radio but sadly, TIWYCF is exactly what pop has been waiting for from her since TTT.
This really should have been released late summer and not as a dual release.
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Post by Choco on May 6, 2016 11:56:21 GMT -5
Re-release after TIWYCF and Needed Me peak with a new (summery) video pls :( :'(
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Post by AP on May 6, 2016 12:36:28 GMT -5
I heard that too (on here - not sure of the poster) - but then watched an interview with Calvin where he said it was recorded in November 2015. But did he say Rihanna recorded it in November (or specify a vocalist at all)? 'Cause I think someone said in the TIWYCF thread that Zara Larsson cut a vocal for the track. It could be the case that Calvin did the song with Zara in November, and then played it for Rihanna at Coachella, which led to Rihanna replacing Zara on the track. Went back to dig up the interview: onairwithryan.iheart.com/articles/latest-show-495940/interview-calvin-harris-talks-new-single-14660143/Ryan asks "When did you start working on this with her?" and he answers November. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Who knows what's true.
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Post by Unhinged on May 6, 2016 12:51:48 GMT -5
Pop:24 24 RIHANNA Kiss It Better 3470 3244 226 14.668 -23 Spins -124 Bullet -0.360 AI Rhythmic:41 40 RIHANNA Kiss It Better 510 506 4 1.156 -10 Spins -17 Bullet -0.011 AI iTunes:#81
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Post by FoolMoonz on May 6, 2016 14:01:28 GMT -5
This song is paid dust. I'm not afraid to say it's the best song of her entire career yet everyone is sleeping on it :bert: There's a big upside to this... it won't get played out and ruined. I've kinda learned that I prefer my favorite songs to not become hits for this very reason. You score a point here.
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Post by Duca on May 6, 2016 15:10:16 GMT -5
I love this. Her best single in years.
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Post by NeRD on May 6, 2016 17:12:00 GMT -5
The label definitely knew about the Calvin track. Like a poster stated above, she first heard the song last year, and in a recent interview Calvin talked about how he was so nervous to play her the final version because it was so much different from what she heard before...
I still hold to my Glass John theory. I also believe that they felt they NEEDED the Calvin song to regain interest in Europe in which she lost lots of this era. TIWYCF looks to be doing its job, but I just hate the fact that one of her best songs ever had to suffer because of it.
But then again, this is Rihanna. Someone who gets the BEST material from producers and songwriters thrown at her constantly. There's no telling how many other amazing songs she has locked up waiting to release because they didn't fit the sound of ANTI.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 21:30:55 GMT -5
Justice for Kiss It Better is needed, too good to flop As much as I love Needed Me, I wish KIB was more successful. At least one of 2 ANTI's best songs will do very well.
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Post by nighttime on May 6, 2016 22:11:07 GMT -5
"Kiss It Better" can't go out like this. Bring on the remix / discount / 2nd video / viral memes / payola !
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Post by Live Your Life on May 6, 2016 22:21:55 GMT -5
Yeah, they did a terrible job with everything involving this song. I wish I could say that I'm surprised, but her team has been an absolute mess for a good 3-4 years now, so....
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Post by hitseeker. on May 7, 2016 5:10:44 GMT -5
Pop: 25 22 RIHANNA Kiss It Better 3474 3303 171 14.799
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Rhythmic: 41 40 RIHANNA Kiss It Better 510 501 9 1.158
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Post by FoolMoonz on May 7, 2016 5:50:17 GMT -5
I was wondering something..
Where THE HELL is that remix with Miguel ? :|
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Post by NeRD on May 7, 2016 10:06:49 GMT -5
I was wondering something.. Where THE HELL is that remix with Miguel ? :| An official one doesn't exist...
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Post by SPRΞΞ on May 7, 2016 10:06:59 GMT -5
Are there any examples where the plug was pulled on a song, only for it to be later re-released, and it ended up succeeding?
Only one I can think of would be "To the Moon and Back".
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Post by Choco on May 7, 2016 10:12:28 GMT -5
P!nk's Who Knew initially reached top 50 and was re-released after U + Ur Hand smashed and then went on to reach #1.
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Post by nick64 on May 7, 2016 10:21:31 GMT -5
Cee Lo Green's "F**k You" too
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Post by someguy on May 7, 2016 10:45:39 GMT -5
Cee Lo Green's "F**k You" too I don't that one was ever officially re-released, I think it just started taking off again.
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Post by hitseeker. on May 8, 2016 5:45:01 GMT -5
Pop: 24 24 RIHANNA Kiss It Better 3479 3326 153 14.823
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Rhythmic: 39 41 RIHANNA Kiss It Better 501 508 -7 1.138
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Post by DJ General on May 8, 2016 8:38:16 GMT -5
Yeah it's sad but the album is still a huge seller and work was a massive hit. The label isn't worried about this song. She will get her WW buzz back again with the Calvin song and needed me can still be a giant hit plus when all this stuff calms down a bit she has other singles from anti to put out.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on May 8, 2016 8:42:50 GMT -5
but the album is still a huge seller ? It's only sold like 350k.
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