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Post by Web on Jun 11, 2015 22:45:19 GMT -5
Can't wait to have this song get constantly hated on for the next ~30 weeks until it goes recurrent, just after Stolen Dance left the Billboard Alt chart too.... This is so much better than a third 17+ week reign by an underwhelming Muse lead single imo. As I've said before, it doesn't really "feel" like a #1 hit to me yet but that could change and I still really enjoy the song. I wouldn't mind seeing Twenty One Pilots hold the #1 slot after this, depending on how long it can hold on to #1.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Jun 11, 2015 22:54:16 GMT -5
Can't wait to have this song get constantly hated on for the next ~30 weeks until it goes recurrent, just after Stolen Dance left the Billboard Alt chart too.... This is so much better than a third 17+ week reign by an underwhelming Muse lead single imo. As I've said before, it doesn't really "feel" like a #1 hit to me yet but that could change and I still really enjoy the song. I wouldn't mind seeing Twenty One Pilots hold the #1 slot after this, depending on how long it can hold on to #1. Any Muse single I've heard except Follow Me > Renegades Sorry but Muse is my favorite band
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Post by Web on Jun 11, 2015 22:59:35 GMT -5
I've heard both Uprising and Madness so many times over the past 5 years that I can't listen to them anymore. For both songs I was pretty indifferent initially, but they became so much bigger than I thought was necessary. That's even before I was following the charts, so I can't imagine how much worse it would have been if I had been on Pulse I enjoy many Muse songs (especially from their albums before the last three), but my enjoyment of those two singles has been spoiled by too much radio play. I've said before that differing opinions about songs and discussion about those opinions is one of my favorite parts of this forum, it would be really boring if each time a single was released everyone here agreed on its quality. I prefer 4-5 week runs at #1 compared to those insanely long runs too, so that's another strike. Any song that goes 10+ weeks at #1 is too long regardless of quality.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Jun 11, 2015 23:00:31 GMT -5
Not for nothing, but what exactly do all the supporters like about this? I'm not trying to start an argument; I just want to know, because I can't find anything that's special about this - maybe you guys can point something out.
And also, "Dead Inside" is better than "Madness" and "Uprising", so I wouldn't have minded seeing that reach 10+ weeks at #1; even I think a 19-week run for "Madness" and a 17-week run for "Uprising" was too much.
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Post by Cody on Jun 11, 2015 23:10:10 GMT -5
Not for nothing, but what exactly do all the supporters like about this? I'm not trying to start an argument; I just want to know, because I can't find anything that's special about this - maybe you guys can point something out. And also, "Dead Inside" is better than "Madness" and "Uprising", so I wouldn't have minded seeing that reach 10+ weeks at #1; even I think a 19-week run for "Madness" and a 17-week run for "Uprising" was too much. I think your arguments are too "Pulse" for them to fully represent reality. In a previous post, you said you can't see much of the target alt audience liking this...but I think that's due to your interactions here. The reality is that this small, biased sample of alt listeners tends to prefer rock-leaning stuff because that's what we grew up on, and tend to dislike acoustic guitars/Indie folk. Pulse isn't a good sample of reality. Anyways. I actually like this, but I don't think it's as good as its ridiculous success. Still less of a headscatcher than Staind's "Believe" though
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Jun 11, 2015 23:14:08 GMT -5
Not for nothing, but what exactly do all the supporters like about this? I'm not trying to start an argument; I just want to know, because I can't find anything that's special about this - maybe you guys can point something out. And also, "Dead Inside" is better than "Madness" and "Uprising", so I wouldn't have minded seeing that reach 10+ weeks at #1; even I think a 19-week run for "Madness" and a 17-week run for "Uprising" was too much. I think your arguments are too "Pulse" for them to fully represent reality. In a previous post, you said you can't see much of the target alt audience liking this...but I think that's due to your interactions here. The reality is that this small, biased sample of alt listeners tends to prefer rock-leaning stuff because that's what we grew up on, and tend to dislike acoustic guitars/Indie folk. Pulse isn't a good sample of reality. Anyways. I actually like this, but I don't think it's as good as its ridiculous success. Still less of a headscatcher than Staind's "Believe" though I wasn't only trying to represent Pulse in my last post. I was also trying to represent most people I associate with; via Facebook, people I hang out with, etc. who aren't huge music fans/mostly pick up on what's popular nowadays. Although, now that I think about it, most of them are entering the mid-to-late 20s so I guess that wouldn't be a good representation of Alternative? And I'd say this is as much of a headscratcher as "Believe", mostly because I actually like "Believe".
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Post by Cody on Jun 11, 2015 23:52:47 GMT -5
I think your arguments are too "Pulse" for them to fully represent reality. In a previous post, you said you can't see much of the target alt audience liking this...but I think that's due to your interactions here. The reality is that this small, biased sample of alt listeners tends to prefer rock-leaning stuff because that's what we grew up on, and tend to dislike acoustic guitars/Indie folk. Pulse isn't a good sample of reality. Anyways. I actually like this, but I don't think it's as good as its ridiculous success. Still less of a headscatcher than Staind's "Believe" though I wasn't only trying to represent Pulse in my last post. I was also trying to represent most people I associate with; via Facebook, people I hang out with, etc. who aren't huge music fans/mostly pick up on what's popular nowadays. Although, now that I think about it, most of them are entering the mid-to-late 20s so I guess that wouldn't be a good representation of Alternative? And I'd say this is as much of a headscratcher as "Believe", mostly because I actually like "Believe". Lol, I don't hate "Believe" either...however it going #1 was alt radio's version of when Charlie Sheen went nuts a few years ago.
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Jun 12, 2015 0:31:14 GMT -5
For the moment ;My Alt rock station does me the favor of not playing this song:D
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Post by No Brake$ on Jun 12, 2015 7:23:15 GMT -5
Whoever said this is payola'd...yup, you can buy a #1 hit these days. If this wasn't payola'd it would barely be Top 30. I really like to listen to smaller market AAA\Alternative stations, because they are independent, and play what they want, not what they were told. You know what song is rarely on? This one! Not making that up what so ever.
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Post by crash46 on Jun 12, 2015 20:26:32 GMT -5
Full disclosure: I like the song. It has a great summer-y feel to it, and the lyrics, though vapid at times (especially the refrain), are Alternative at heart.
I just grew up listening to the radio during a time when the MD/PD had the responsibility of finding the songs that would work best for his/her station & market and at the end of the week, I would follow the national countdown shows, and with those songs that you heard on YOUR station and liked, following them up the charts was actually like rooting for your local sports team. Like that was actually making a difference. And I'm only talking about the 90's here; I'm sure it would be even better the farther back you go.
It's still fun to follow the national charts and all, but songs like these are just ringing reminders that it just doesn't mean nearly as much as it once did. In my opinion this is the most egregious example of such since Daughtry's "It's Not Over"--the song that ruined radio forever for me. So now whenever this track comes on, yeah, I'm thinking I like the song, but those thoughts are on shared space with other thoughts sayin' "On The Verge Sham".
I just wish this would have actually earned it a little. It probably could have.
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Post by American Idiot on Jun 12, 2015 23:10:20 GMT -5
I think your arguments are too "Pulse" for them to fully represent reality. In a previous post, you said you can't see much of the target alt audience liking this...but I think that's due to your interactions here. The reality is that this small, biased sample of alt listeners tends to prefer rock-leaning stuff because that's what we grew up on, and tend to dislike acoustic guitars/Indie folk. Pulse isn't a good sample of reality. Anyways. I actually like this, but I don't think it's as good as its ridiculous success. Still less of a headscatcher than Staind's "Believe" though I wasn't only trying to represent Pulse in my last post. I was also trying to represent most people I associate with; via Facebook, people I hang out with, etc. who aren't huge music fans/mostly pick up on what's popular nowadays. Although, now that I think about it, most of them are entering the mid-to-late 20s so I guess that wouldn't be a good representation of Alternative? Most of us are older than the Alternative demographic. It's the kids in their teen years and maybe younger 20s that I think the format pertains to. We grew up 10-15 years ago when rock was mostly louder and more energetic. It's what we're used to, so of course this newer and slower sound isn't going to sound so appealing.
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Jun 12, 2015 23:35:15 GMT -5
I wasn't only trying to represent Pulse in my last post. I was also trying to represent most people I associate with; via Facebook, people I hang out with, etc. who aren't huge music fans/mostly pick up on what's popular nowadays. Although, now that I think about it, most of them are entering the mid-to-late 20s so I guess that wouldn't be a good representation of Alternative? Most of us are older than the Alternative demographic. It's the kids in their teen years and maybe younger 20s that I think the format pertains to. We grew up 10-15 years ago when rock was mostly louder and more energetic. It's what we're used to, so of course this newer and slower sound isn't going to sound so appealing. I totaly agree with this. I actually go back even a few years more with the New Wave /Synth pop of 80s, so I can fall prey to the Indie pop side of alt, but in the end; give me the harder guitar sounds of Wolf Alice and Royal Blood, over this Snorefest any day.
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Post by krissirge on Jun 16, 2015 2:46:00 GMT -5
I always keep looking at this band and hoping thats its this group
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Post by timmierz on Jun 16, 2015 8:16:54 GMT -5
X Ambassadors is the third group in the first half of 2015 to get their first alt #1, after Walk the Moon and Awolnation. The past ten years, how many acts got their first #1 in Jan - Jun? Surprisingly pretty constant, until 2008!
2015: 3 (Walk the Moon, Awolnation, X Ambassadors) 2014: 2 (Arctic Monkeys, Kongos) 2013: 3 (Imagine Dragons, The Neighbourhood, Capital Cities) 2012: 3 (Gotye, Fun, Grouplove) 2011: 1 (Foster the People) 2010: 4 (Phoenix, Crash Kings, Stone Temple Pilots, Dirty Heads) 2009: 3 (Shinedown, Anberlin, Silversun Pickups) 2008: 1 (Seether) 2007: 1 (Thirty Seconds to Mars) 2006: 1 (10 Years)
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Jun 16, 2015 8:22:43 GMT -5
I also think this is the fastest ascent to #1 for a debut artist, since Billboard published this last year and this only took 8 weeks to reach #1:
"KONGOS and the Black Keys shake up the upper reaches of Alternative Songs, as the former's "Come With Me Now" rises 2-1 and the latter's "Fever" blasts in at No. 6. KONGOS complete the quickest ascent to the summit for an act in its first chart visit since Lorde's "Royals" needed only nine weeks to reach No. 1 last August. Among rookie bands, KONGOS' first chart entry marks the fastest-flying No. 1 since Evanescence's "Bring Me to Life," featuring Paul McCoy, also crowned the chart in its 10th frame on the March 29, 2003, tally.
Meanwhile, the Black Keys unlock a No. 6 start on Alternative Songs with "Fever," as well as bows at Nos. 2, 9 and 28 on Rock Airplay, Adult Alternative Songs and Mainstream Rock Songs, respectively. The track previews the duo's eighth full-length album, "Turn Blue," due May 13."
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Post by Lordefβ ones on Jun 16, 2015 20:36:48 GMT -5
This song is not worthy of #1, hopefully 21P or OM&M knock it down quick cause this is the worst #1 since "Lampshades On Fire"
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Jun 17, 2015 1:08:55 GMT -5
This song is not worthy of #1, hopefully 21P or OM&M knock it down quick cause this is the worst #1 since "Lampshades On Fire" I was gonna like your post then I saw "Lampshades On Fire" = worst #1 :( but I agree with the rest of your statement. I prefer Saint Motel at #1, but that's not about to happen in this lifetime.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Jun 17, 2015 6:07:02 GMT -5
Top 10 on AAA:
15 10 X AMBASSADORS Renegades 425 354 71 1.138
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Post by Lordefβ ones on Jun 17, 2015 22:12:27 GMT -5
Eh this song is probably a lot worse than "Lampshades On Fire" but I would have to stay awake long enough to hear the whole thing. I just kinda picked Lampshades cause it was the last #1 that I disliked. I might be missing something else but Renegades is probably the worst #1 since "Fever"
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Post by ben777 on Jun 17, 2015 22:51:56 GMT -5
I agree that this is one of the dumbest songs I've ever seen at #1, especially since they stole the "hey hey hey" hook from the Fat Albert Show with Bill Cosby - people are buying it, though (the only songs on the Alt chart with higher sales than this are Shut Up And Dance and Uma Thurman), so I don't really agree with the posts saying that stations are just being forced to play this
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Post by Cody on Jun 17, 2015 23:02:08 GMT -5
I still haven't actually hated a #1 since Alex Clare's "Too Close", and since then the only other one I haven't charted was "Come A Little Closer"
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 17, 2015 23:38:27 GMT -5
I still haven't actually hated a #1 since Alex Clare's "Too Close", and since then the only other one I haven't charted was "Come A Little Closer" You hated Too Close? How do we get along at all? I love most of what you hate!
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Post by Green Baron on Jun 17, 2015 23:56:12 GMT -5
Too Close was trash.
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Jun 18, 2015 1:14:35 GMT -5
I agree that this is one of the dumbest songs I've ever seen at #1, especially since they stole the "hey hey hey" hook from the Fat Albert Show with Bill Cosby - people are buying it, though (the only songs on the Alt chart with higher sales than this are Shut Up And Dance and Uma Thurman), so I don't really agree with the posts saying that stations are just being forced to play this The Fat Albert remark is priceless. That's why I listen to 91x. This song is nowhere in sight and could be one of the reasons one of their mottos is "No Corporate playlists" I would also like; to have the privledge to add, that, "Too Close" was garbage
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Post by Trent on Jun 18, 2015 1:27:55 GMT -5
All the Alternative #1 hits charted this year definitely a step up from last year. THE WORST #1 so far I gotta to say it have to be Mumford & Sons "Believe". I don't know if anyone would agree with me.
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Post by ben777 on Jun 18, 2015 12:30:51 GMT -5
^I agree with that - the lyrics to "Believe" sound like they were written in 5 minutes IMO, and the whole song sounds incomplete to me, like it was started and never finished
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Post by No Brake$ on Jun 18, 2015 12:36:32 GMT -5
This song is just so generic, that really is it. I just heard Robert DeLong's new song this morning...that blows this piece of crap out of the water.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 18, 2015 12:39:09 GMT -5
That's why I listen to 91x. This song is nowhere in sight and could be one of the reasons one of their mottos is "No Corporate playlists" What is this 91x you never speak of?
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Jun 20, 2015 1:35:09 GMT -5
For mike.My prefered Alternative Rock station. "We don't follow a corporate playlist; is their motto ,so they play what they want. Alot of the current top 40 hits, but Not necessarly what's on top 10. They even picked up Muse "Reapers" as a new track , which some of you prefer to "Mercy", Playlist. xetra.tunegenie.com/onair/I should start up a thread called 91x.
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Post by Cody on Jun 20, 2015 5:24:41 GMT -5
For mike.My prefered Alternative Rock station. "We don't follow a corporate playlist; is their motto ,so they play what they want. Alot of the current top 40 hits, but Not necessarly what's on top 10. They even picked up Muse "Reapers" as a new track , which some of you prefer to "Mercy", Playlist. xetra.tunegenie.com/onair/I should start up a thread called 91x. Mercy hasn't gone for adds yet.
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