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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on May 26, 2015 15:32:29 GMT -5
Inspired by the Pink thread, what about Shakira? Has she run out of gas for producing the types of megahits like Hips Don't Lie and Waka Waka that made her a household name the world over? Her last album didn't do well anywhere, even with the assist of a Rihanna paired lead single and a World Cup performance watched by over a billion people worldwide. She's also edging ever closer to 40 (38 right now) with no new music in sight. tIs she headed to nostalgia act status?
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Post by allow that on May 26, 2015 15:45:11 GMT -5
I don't see Shakira having another big US hit. She's tried several times but always falls flat. It's been almost ten years since "Hips Don't Lie" and with the exception of her Beyonce duet one year later she's never made a return visit the Hot 100 Top 10.
Your inclusion of "Waka Waka" makes me wonder if you mean worldwide though, in which case it's way more probable. "Loca" was massive pretty much everywhere except for the US, for instance.
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on May 26, 2015 15:50:41 GMT -5
That's true, Loca did do well in Europe as a follow-up to Waka Waka. I think that without the World Cup driven success of the latter in Europe, Loca would have fared about as well as it did state-side.
Poland was her most successfull market with the last album era. That's not a good sign for global success moving forward.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 17:40:03 GMT -5
I don't see Shakira having another big US hit. She's tried several times but always falls flat. It's been almost ten years since "Hips Don't Lie" and with the exception of her Beyonce duet one year later she's never made a return visit the Hot 100 Top 10. Your inclusion of "Waka Waka" makes me wonder if you mean worldwide though, in which case it's way more probable. "Loca" was massive pretty much everywhere except for the US, for instance. To be fair, "She Wolf" and "Can't Remember To Forget You" were decent-sized hits, so there was still some interest in Shakira (although there were higher expectations for the latter to do better than it did). However, as far as top 10 success goes, you're right, she won't, she might not even have another U.S. hit, period, big or small. However, she still has a huge Latin fanbase, so I don't think she's worried over it.
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Post by Relaxing Cup on May 26, 2015 17:42:19 GMT -5
WORLD WIDE: Definately US: Outcome looks doubtful ps YourFaveIsAFlop you forgot to capitalize MEGA
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Post by Wolfy on May 26, 2015 18:48:00 GMT -5
It depends on her. CRTFY would have been top 10 had she performed it at the Grammys with Rihanna (Her team says she was asked but turned it down), then the video coming out the next Tuesday would have taken the vevo record at that time. That should have shot CRTFY pretty high on the hot 100. But, Shakira refused to leave Spain till the voice started. She felt the voice was all the promo she needed. It comes down to how dedicated she is. If she cares, she might have another big hit. If she doesn't, I doubt she'll get a mega hit. She's rumored to be making the next Official World Cup anthem. This will be her chance to make an Arabic sounding song. Right now she's all about her kids. If she's passionate again about her music, and her label backs her up, she might get another mega hit.
Also, Spanish wise she's still on top. Her last single "Mi Verdad", a duet with mana, debut at #1 in the Hot Latin Songs chart and was a hit in Latin America. That could be the key to a moderate worldwide hit. She still gets high vevo streaming. She's the only older diva that still gets high streaming numbers. She's still hot on social media. So, an English single that has a Spanish version that's a hit could take the English version into the top 10. Radio airplay in the US will be difficult. The key to a hit will be streaming and Latin Airplay. "Mi Verdad" debut at #1 on the U.S. Latin Airplay chart. If she can do that again, plus strong streaming, that's at least a good first few weeks for the English version.
It's also worth noting that her last era didn't have mega hits, but it made plenty of money off selling her music to commercials (Tmobile, Starbucks, Activia, Crest) and off her high streaming numbers. In 2014 she had 2 billion vevo views. The Shakira brand performed well during the last era. In the end, the label just cares that the era made money. She's still out there doing commercials. Most recently, she just filmed another crest commercial. I'm pretty sure Live Nation will still be willing to heavily promote the next era, especially if she promises a tour.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 19:53:45 GMT -5
Gonna say no on this one.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on May 26, 2015 20:01:52 GMT -5
No.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 20:12:58 GMT -5
Yes. But she needs to promote and it needs to be a hot uptempo. CRTFY would have done better with a big performance. Empire got the promo, but it just wasn't what radio was looking for.
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Post by Wolfy on May 26, 2015 21:22:15 GMT -5
I'd like for Shakira to collaborate with Taylor Swift on a song that's similar to "The One Thing." Nothing controversial, just them singing a good song together. That sound would work well on both pop and Latin radio. She still looks pretty young. Here's a pic of her from yesterday. She was out doing promo for a perfume:
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on May 26, 2015 21:54:30 GMT -5
I'd like for Shakira to collaborate with Taylor Swift on a song that's similar to "The One Thing." Nothing controversial, just them singing a good song together. That sound would work well on both pop and Latin radio. Maybe she could get Jesus to do background vocals too...
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 26, 2015 22:11:06 GMT -5
She'll keep having hits as long as she wants to, and while I don't think she'll ever have something replicate the success of "Hips Don't Lie," I can definitely see her continuing to get Top 10-20 hits around the world. "She Wolf," "Loca," and "Can't Remember to Forget You" all did fairly well (CRTFY should've done better on radio, but it still did okay). Her singles from the last era (minus "Empire") also did quite well in many countries and she's still a big draw for Latin radio, even without a lot of support from CHR here in the states. So, yes, I think she'll keep having hits.
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Post by Wolfy on May 26, 2015 22:24:43 GMT -5
I'd like for Shakira to collaborate with Taylor Swift on a song that's similar to "The One Thing." Nothing controversial, just them singing a good song together. That sound would work well on both pop and Latin radio. Maybe she could get Jesus to do background vocals too... It's all a pricing game among the record executives. If they want her, they can get her. She performed "ghost town" with Madonna. So we know she's willing to collaborate for the right price.
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Post by Janhova's Witness on May 26, 2015 23:45:53 GMT -5
I still hear the iconic "Truth Or Dare" all the time so I'm gonna say yes. The demand is still there.
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Post by therealstan123 on May 27, 2015 0:43:05 GMT -5
No.
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Post by Au$tin on May 27, 2015 1:23:49 GMT -5
I definitely think she can, as there is still a demand for Shakira, but the probability is low given how Shakira. performed. (Though, I think "You Don't Care About Me" would have done well in the US had it been a single.)
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Post by allow that on May 27, 2015 9:42:21 GMT -5
She'll keep having hits as long as she wants to, and while I don't think she'll ever have something replicate the success of "Hips Don't Lie," I can definitely see her continuing to get Top 10-20 hits around the world. "She Wolf," "Loca," and "Can't Remember to Forget You" all did fairly well (CRTFY should've done better on radio, but it still did okay). Her singles from the last era (minus "Empire") also did quite well in many countries and she's still a big draw for Latin radio, even without a lot of support from CHR here in the states. So, yes, I think she'll keep having hits. I think the main question this topic poses is if Shakira will have another Hot 100 Top 10 with longevity ("megahit"). I wouldn't consider "Can't Remember..." even close to that. In addition to its lower peaks, it was in and out in under a month and is pretty much forgotten only a year later.
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Post by #LisaRinna on May 27, 2015 9:47:08 GMT -5
Gonna have to say no.
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on May 27, 2015 12:28:54 GMT -5
"Collaborating" is hardly the same thing as a one off performance on a widely watched award show. And Taylor had some legitimacy to gain in pop music from appearing with Madonna. She has literally nothing to gain from appearing with Shakira.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 13:58:07 GMT -5
Ummm no. Even Rihanna couldn't get this girl a hit when people still gave a damn. I still hear the iconic "Truth Or Dare" all the time so I'm gonna say yes. The demand is still there. You'd be a cute fit for the Ciara thread boo.
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Post by Juanca on May 27, 2015 14:20:48 GMT -5
I hope so, and I think she still has it in her to come up with an On the floor type of hit... But her mind seems not focused on music as she used to be. Nonetheless, I'm confident she'll continue to be the MEGA Latin star. Period. There's no other Latin artist like her with her popularity, concert demand, and hit strikes along with critical acclaim in Latin America, and I'm content with that :)
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Post by Wolfy on May 27, 2015 14:34:49 GMT -5
it was in and out in under a month and is pretty much forgotten only a year later. It was on the hot 100 for 19 weeks, way more than a month. WEEK COMMENT DATE POSITION 1 DEBUT 2014-02-01 28 2 ↓ 33 2014-02-08 61 3 PEAK 2014-02-15 15 4 ↓ 6 2014-02-22 21 5 ↓ 1 2014-03-01 22 6 ↓ 4 2014-03-08 26 7 n/c 2014-03-15 26 8 ↓ 3 2014-03-22 29 9 ↓ 2 2014-03-29 31 10 ↓ 3 2014-04-05 34 11 ↑ 2 2014-04-12 32 12 ↓ 13 2014-04-19 45 13 ↓ 14 2014-04-26 59 14 ↓ 4 2014-05-03 63 15 ↓ 6 2014-05-10 69 16 ↓ 6 2014-05-17 75 17 ↓ 3 2014-05-24 78 18 ↓ 15 2014-05-31 93 19 ↓ 7 2014-06-07 100 The video is one of the most viewed videos of all-time. It sparked a streaming surge for Shakira that gave her 2 billion views in 2014. I wouldn't call that being forgotten.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 14:42:46 GMT -5
Something can be a big hit-- much bigger than that-- and still be forgotten.
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 27, 2015 14:51:45 GMT -5
Even though CHR paid "Can't Remember to Forget You" dust here in the U.S., the song did quite well around the world and achieved Top 10 peaks in most of the countries it charted in, and reached the Top 20 in most of the others. Shakira has one of the widest reaches of any singer in the world, but I think the fact that she's never been much of a CHR draw and has had only a small presence there since "Hips Don't Lie" has given people the impression she's not as big as she is. With the right song and ample promotion, she could have another big hit in the U.S., but even if she doesn't step it up (which is her main problem lately -- she's too laid back in terms of balancing her domestic life with her career), she should continue scoring hits in most other markets and with Latin formats here if nothing else.
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Post by Wolfy on May 27, 2015 17:58:02 GMT -5
She's also edging ever closer to 40 (38 right now) with no new music in sight. No new music? She has a Spanish album coming out soon and she just released a Spanish single "Mi Verdad" that debut at #1 on hot Latin songs. LV was pushing for a summer release, but I doubt they will be able to convince Shakira to do that. I'm thinking fall this year or early next year.
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on May 27, 2015 20:51:32 GMT -5
Summer release lol
You realize they would need to drop a single, like, now for that right? That ain't happen'.
Anyway back on topic, her last solo "hit" was She Wolf in 2009, and even with a #11 peak, I would put it in the same category as CRTFY as far as being memorable. I honestly don't know what she could do to get a hit in the US again. Iggy would do about as much for her as she did for J.Lo. Pitbull? Tried it, didn't work. Rihanna? Didn't work. I just don't think the interest is there for her either with sales or pop radio.
And you can go on and on about her Vevo numbers, but Vevo was super skewed to Latin America. How do you think artists like Romeo Santos & Prince Royce have bachata songs with 500 million views on Vevo? It's not because they're popular all over the world.
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Post by Janhova's Witness on May 27, 2015 21:18:31 GMT -5
Ummm no. Even Rihanna couldn't get this girl a hit when people still gave a damn. I still hear the iconic "Truth Or Dare" all the time so I'm gonna say yes. The demand is still there. You'd be a cute fit for the Ciara thread boo. I'd be a cute fit for your **** **** boo
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Post by Wolfy on May 27, 2015 21:42:59 GMT -5
Summer release lol You realize they would need to drop a single, like, now for that right? That ain't happen'. Anyway back on topic, her last solo "hit" was She Wolf in 2009, and even with a #11 peak, I would put it in the same category as CRTFY as far as being memorable. I honestly don't know what she could do to get a hit in the US again. Iggy would do about as much for her as she did for J.Lo. Pitbull? Tried it, didn't work. Rihanna? Didn't work. I just don't think the interest is there for her either with sales or pop radio. And you can go on and on about her Vevo numbers, but Vevo was super skewed to Latin America. How do you think artists like Romeo Santos & Prince Royce have bachata songs with 500 million views on Vevo? It's not because they're popular all over the world. I said they wanted a summer release, not that it was happening. This was talked about awhile back. I mentioned it because it sounds like the album is ready. It's just down to getting Shakira away from Spain to do promo. She wants to release the album once Sasha is a little older. Its not skewed. The reason you see Latin acts next to American acts is because Vevo is worldwide. Latin America, like everywhere else, has teens. From what I've noticed, teens, kids and young adults are the ones that mainly watch videos over and over again on vevo / YouTube. When my niece is bored she goes on her iPad and watches the same videos over and over again. Vevo is free and In HD. Some use it as a way to listen to music. That's what's going on there. Right now the top streaming act on vevo is Taylor Swift. I'm pretty sure teens are watching her videos everyday. It shouldn't be too surprising that a couple Latin acts are there also. Latin America is huge. That's a lot of people that could potentially stream a video. It shouldn't surprise anyone to see a couple songs that are popular in Latin America on vevo. Spanish music is also popular in the U.S. It's pretty easy to see how a Spanish song could get 500M views. Shakira is huge in Latin America, of course a big chunk of those views are from there. That's stating the obvious. Her Spanish career has always been what fuels her success. Without her Latin fanbase she would not have those high views, but again, that's stating the obvious.
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Post by Ling-Ling on May 27, 2015 22:31:39 GMT -5
Her English music is consistently sh*tty and completely out of touch. So unless she gets a major makeover musically, I say no.
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Post by Glove Slap on May 28, 2015 3:34:46 GMT -5
She can stay getting World Cup smashes in Europe till her dying day, but in the US she seems to be content with the level of celebrity and fame she has, which is considerably high when you consider that she's only had about a handful of English hits.
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