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Post by Ling-Ling on Feb 23, 2017 15:37:55 GMT -5
And she's officially out of Coachella for 2017 because of her pregnancy. But she's promised to headline in 2018.
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Post by Active Aggressive on Feb 23, 2017 20:20:57 GMT -5
It's funny to me that, despite what a force Beyonce is, I see mostly rejoicing over her cancellation all over Social Media and hopes that Daft Punk will take her place. I know my friend who goes to Coachella every year for the last 10 years is beyond thrilled, LOL.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 3:36:48 GMT -5
It's funny to me that, despite what a force Beyonce is, I see mostly rejoicing over her cancellation all over Social Media and hopes that Daft Punk will take her place. I know my friend who goes to Coachella every year for the last 10 years is beyond thrilled, LOL. Beyonce is such a major left turn for the type of act Coachella books (they are very light on r&b and they don't do A-list divas, period) that it doesn't surprise me so many would be happy about it. Bey was probably going to attract a totally different audience - great for Coachella, bad for Coachella regulars. Still, hope your friend knows not to get too excited; Bey is booked for 2018 now lol
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Post by Active Aggressive on Feb 24, 2017 7:41:09 GMT -5
It's funny to me that, despite what a force Beyonce is, I see mostly rejoicing over her cancellation all over Social Media and hopes that Daft Punk will take her place. I know my friend who goes to Coachella every year for the last 10 years is beyond thrilled, LOL. Beyonce is such a major left turn for the type of act Coachella books (they are very light on r&b and they don't do A-list divas, period) that it doesn't surprise me so many would be happy about it. Bey was probably going to attract a totally different audience - great for Coachella, bad for Coachella regulars. Still, hope your friend knows not to get too excited; Bey is booked for 2018 now lol Yeah...fests in general don't fuck with big A list divas. Their big ticket items, in my experience, are either veteran acts, big rock bands, or DJs. It's getting looser though (The Weeknd and Frank Ocean arw headlining Firefly and Panorama this year, respectively) but I guess I shouldn't be surprised, even though it's Queen B. Anyway, most Hive drones are not the type to go to a festival anyway. But yeah, my friend is already buying her ticket for next year. She goes for the earliest possible pre-sale, with the intent of selling her ticket if she really hates the lineup. She keeps hoping I will join her again out there but I haven't been that pleased with the lineup in years. Anyway, Beyonce made the right decision but I was actually kinda surprised.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 19:26:40 GMT -5
Just dropping off to say
Sweet Dreams is an underrated classic and should've been the most successful single off IASF and her entire career
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Post by Live Your Life on Feb 25, 2017 14:10:06 GMT -5
Why does it look like she says "You tried it" at the beginning.
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Post by bat1990 on Mar 27, 2017 12:31:46 GMT -5
The quote at the end of the article is my favorite thing I've read in a while: “At the end of the day, the penetration of her music and vision is everywhere. If pop radio’s not on that then more fool them because they’re wrong.”
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Post by felipe on Mar 27, 2017 20:23:17 GMT -5
That line is great, but I still have the feeling that hits do matter. Hit singles are usually the first thing that come in mind when you think about an act. What do most people remember from her B'Day era? Irreplaceable. Because it was a big hit. People don't know whether the album sold well or not, whether it was critically aclaimmed or not, people remember the hits. Most people remember I Am for Single Ladies and Halo, they have no idea how many Grammys she won for it.
I have a feeling Formation may pull a Run the World and have longevity. If not, I'm not sure what how this album will be remembered in 10 years? For the police controversy? For Adele breaking her Grammy? Or will it be forgotten by the general public who will still be listening to Crazy in Love?
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Post by bat1990 on Mar 27, 2017 20:25:46 GMT -5
Maybe for the image of her in yellow smashing things with a baseball bat. Or the line "Becky with the good hair"
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 0:36:54 GMT -5
That line is great, but I still have the feeling that hits do matter. Hit singles are usually the first thing that come in mind when you think about an act. What do most people remember from her B'Day era? Irreplaceable. Because it was a big hit. People don't know whether the album sold well or not, whether it was critically aclaimmed or not, people remember the hits. Most people remember I Am for Single Ladies and Halo, they have no idea how many Grammys she won for it. I have a feeling Formation may pull a Run the World and have longevity. If not, I'm not sure what how this album will be remembered in 10 years? For the police controversy? For Adele breaking her Grammy? Or will it be forgotten by the general public who will still be listening to Crazy in Love? The kind of listener who is still going for CIL or Irreplaceable first when they find themselves in a Beyonce mood has probably already forgotten Formation, lbr. I don't mean that to be flippant. If it were almost any other mainstream artist I would agree with the reliance on [pop] hits, but for Lemonade (and self-titled), the album as a complete piece of work is the 'hit,' thus making the hit status of individual songs moot. I think 10 years from now these two albums of hers will be remembered mainly for the way she presented them, which is out of the box compared to traditional releases.
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Post by mc54 on Mar 28, 2017 8:26:07 GMT -5
But can I get a LEMONADE vinyl or nah?
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Post by adamalterlago on Mar 28, 2017 9:25:05 GMT -5
But can I get a LEMONADE vinyl or nah? For real though. Speaking on the longevity and legacy of FORMATION, it is insane to think it won't have a lasting impact. Much as Nina Simone's catalog of civil rights songs live on today and are very important culturally and historically, I do not doubt that Formation will have the same impact years and decades down the road. It was a song that took chances, spoke on relevant political subject matter while also making dance.
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Post by Caviar on Mar 28, 2017 9:46:13 GMT -5
Hot sauce in my bag? Yass legendary political subject matter.
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Post by adamalterlago on Mar 28, 2017 14:45:34 GMT -5
Hot sauce in my bag? Yass legendary political subject matter. You serious? It's a lot more than that line. There is massive amounts of subtext in the lines which are also supported by a groundbreaking music video that will go down in history as one of her best and that has cultural importance...
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Post by shayonce on Mar 29, 2017 5:25:57 GMT -5
That line is great, but I still have the feeling that hits do matter. Hit singles are usually the first thing that come in mind when you think about an act. What do most people remember from her B'Day era? Irreplaceable. Because it was a big hit. People don't know whether the album sold well or not, whether it was critically aclaimmed or not, people remember the hits. Most people remember I Am for Single Ladies and Halo, they have no idea how many Grammys she won for it. I have a feeling Formation may pull a Run the World and have longevity. If not, I'm not sure what how this album will be remembered in 10 years? For the police controversy? For Adele breaking her Grammy? Or will it be forgotten by the general public who will still be listening to Crazy in Love? you're right. avg GP will only remember big radio hits. But Beyonce doesn't try to gather avg GP who will only care those big hits on radio and move to other one every 3 month. avg GP doesn't spent big money on artists or stand for artists, they're just here for quick hits. she focused on specific core demographic who doesn't rely on radio that much, appreciate great body of work. and built the brand from there. also those acclaim actually brought new fans and people to her. that's why she survived without big pop hits WW while hit single artists are struggling with tours and album sales. I wish she played typical popstar game like she did back in the day,(it's not a bad thing and she doesn't even have to do extra) but she clearly not into it and ironically she got bigger without that. so... (she could be bigger with that tho) I was looking at her spotify/streaming stats and it's crazy how she has those big numbers without chart hit. for comparison with some 2011 releases. 4 got that number without radio support and hit single. 4 songs might not recognizable as hit single in other albums by avg GP. but clearly people still listen to them more than most hit single in 2011. Beyonce - 4: 749,696,451 Rihanna - Talk That Talk: 750,026,935 Rihanna - Loud(2010): 713,432,816 Lady GAGA - Born This way: 292,957,493 Britney - Femme Fatal(2011): 190,424,861
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Post by felipe on Mar 29, 2017 6:32:08 GMT -5
Didn't know 4 was still getting that much streaming. That's really nice.
BTW, she does play the typical popstar game from time to time, doesn't she? Like, releasing a Nicki Minaj-assisted remix of Formation with a new promotional video was typical pop star, and she was clearly hoping for a hit there. Or putting out a massive, controversial performance at the Superbowl to release a new single. Isn't that pop star at their best?
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Post by trustypepper on Mar 29, 2017 7:24:21 GMT -5
4 was such a fantastic era. I'll always love that album.
I honestly think a good amount of the GP is annoyed with how praised she is. I've seen her referred to as overrated and overpraised countless times, escpecially since the Lemonade era began.
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Post by adamalterlago on Mar 29, 2017 10:05:51 GMT -5
Didn't know 4 was still getting that much streaming. That's really nice. BTW, she does play the typical popstar game from time to time, doesn't she? Like, releasing a Nicki Minaj-assisted remix of Formation with a new promotional video was typical pop star, and she was clearly hoping for a hit there. Or putting out a massive, controversial performance at the Superbowl to release a new single. Isn't that pop star at their best? Good point. But my question is that if she was gunning for Formation to be a chart topping #1 with a controversial Superbowl performance why the HELL did she only release the single on Tidal?? That was the STUPIDEST move - I think that if she would have made it avail on other streaming services, it would have hit #1.
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Post by divasummer on Mar 29, 2017 12:08:51 GMT -5
"4" is getting streamed that much probably because "Run The World" is now one of her 2nd tire signature songs. Also she still kind of promoted with "The Superbowl" etc for awhile. I also feel like "Love On Top" is still in the public eye here and there. A lot of fans also like it too so I can see why it's still highly streamed.
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Post by Caviar on Mar 29, 2017 12:25:00 GMT -5
4 is her best album this decade. "Rather Die Young" is probably her best song she's ever made.
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Post by felipe on Mar 29, 2017 16:12:37 GMT -5
"4" is getting streamed that much probably because "Run The World" is now one of her 2nd tire signature songs. RTW pulled some impressive longevity. I expect it to more of a signature song for her than Single Ladies in the upcoming years.
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Post by felipe on Mar 29, 2017 16:19:26 GMT -5
Didn't know 4 was still getting that much streaming. That's really nice. BTW, she does play the typical popstar game from time to time, doesn't she? Like, releasing a Nicki Minaj-assisted remix of Formation with a new promotional video was typical pop star, and she was clearly hoping for a hit there. Or putting out a massive, controversial performance at the Superbowl to release a new single. Isn't that pop star at their best? Good point. But my question is that if she was gunning for Formation to be a chart topping #1 with a controversial Superbowl performance why the HELL did she only release the single on Tidal?? That was the STUPIDEST move - I think that if she would have made it avail on other streaming services, it would have hit #1. It is possible to argue that after both the album 4 and its singles underperformed she has followed a path in which her release patterns are so different that she can't really be caled out if nothing is a hit. She did the surprise release with self-titled, so if it underperformed people could just say it wasn't promoted. If her songs flop on radio, fans can just say she doesn't care about hits and she didn't promote them. If Lemonade didn't sell as much as self-titled, we could just say the single choices were bolder or something like that. Not following a traditional release she dodges criticism and comparisons. But since songs are being sent for adds, and the music video is only uploaded to her channel when the single is announced, they haven't completely thrown in the towel on getting hits.
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Post by divasummer on Mar 29, 2017 18:02:30 GMT -5
"4" is getting streamed that much probably because "Run The World" is now one of her 2nd tire signature songs. RTW pulled some impressive longevity. I expect it to more of a signature song for her than Single Ladies in the upcoming years. " I agree. When I say 2nd tire signature hits I don't mean that as an insult to it. 1st tire I would say is "Crazy In Love, Single Ladies" maybe "Halo". 2nd tire to me would be this and maybe "Irreplaceable".
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Post by Jay D83 on Mar 29, 2017 18:43:33 GMT -5
4 is her best album this decade. "Rather Die Young" is probably her best song she's ever made. OMG yes! Finally someone who stans for RDY. I agree with you. I think it's the best song she's ever made, too.
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Mar 29, 2017 19:34:31 GMT -5
Don't sleep on "Love On Top". It's definitely one of her most recognizable songs from 4 forward. If you're discussing RTW, we must discuss LOT as well. Streaming numbers are similar as well.
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Post by missgenericnickname on Apr 4, 2017 14:38:58 GMT -5
I'm surprised there's no "Die With You" posts yet
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Post by missgenericnickname on Apr 4, 2017 15:12:32 GMT -5
Someone put it on Twitter so...
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Post by Jay D83 on Apr 5, 2017 8:12:40 GMT -5
Me no like piano ballads so....
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Post by Glove Slap on Apr 5, 2017 8:23:57 GMT -5
I would be 100% fine with her releasing all her future WLBs (White Lady Ballads) like this to minimal exposure, and leaving them off her albums altogether.
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