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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2016 9:46:27 GMT -5
Double reason to be excited. I've been jamming to this one for around a month now. And it wasn't that dreck by Chris Lane!
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Post by kw9461 on Jan 14, 2016 10:04:47 GMT -5
As expected, Maren Morris' "My Church" has been named the next "On The Verge" artist/song by iHeartMedia. Home run pick. I'm so glad they chose this over that god-awful Chris Lane song. OTV is a sketchy program, but with Cam and Maren they've helped two very unique distinctive females take off, so it's working out as a net positive (not to mention giving Chris Janson his long overdue big break). With this song getting OTV and Jon Pardi's new one looking like a hit, 2016 is shaping up to be step forward at country radio.
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Post by g8erboi on Jan 14, 2016 12:43:04 GMT -5
Hmmm so they announced Granger as the OTV on October 15, which was mid-October, and a Thursday. Tomorrow is a Thursday and pretty much mid-January, so maybe they'll make the announcement tomorrow if this gets the OTV. And I was right! I'm SO glad this was selected. It is kind of sad that, with the current state of radio, we have to rely on this program to catapult talented artists, but I'm still ecstatic for Maren and this song nonetheless!
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Post by M&TSwiftie on Jan 14, 2016 16:01:24 GMT -5
I was driving home from school and turned on 94.9 the bull where the made the Announcement and said she was the On The Verge Artist. This song is very amazing good to see this made up for other females who didn't get the on the verge pick after Cam. I definitely see Morgan having huge success this year. Well done Bobby bones and I heart radio :)
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Post by fe_lipeoliveira on Jan 14, 2016 16:17:44 GMT -5
With Cam's performance in the past few months and now Maren coming along, it seems like after a long time we'll finally have more than one strong female contender for the Best New Artists awards.
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Post by kml567 on Jan 14, 2016 22:51:43 GMT -5
Listened to songs on the EP and she's clearly a Hot AC artist at heart. Maren is so much more pop-leaning and mainstream-friendly than Kacey, which is why I think Maren will eventually be more commercially successful than Kacey. This song (and many others on the EP) fit perfectly on Hot AC and of course the current climate of Country-Pop radio, so I think radio will easily eat this up and reach #1.
I echo Billboard's prediction that Maren will be Nashville's next breakout POP star. After a few successful crossover hits to Pop/Hot AC, I wouldn't be surprised if she pulls a Taylor Swift and abandons Country to become a full-blown Pop/Hot AC star. I find it interesting how she says in interviews that the "walls" have come down on genres and she's "not really set out to make a country record or a pop record". Certainly saying all the right things to leave the door open on both Country and Pop sides.
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Post by loveofmusic on Jan 15, 2016 12:10:09 GMT -5
This made the Mediabase chart this morning & currently at #47.
I listened to this song months ago on Spotify & loved it. I think Maren's going to do very well with this song.
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Post by travelrocks24 on Jan 17, 2016 12:48:55 GMT -5
I was listening to "The Highway" yesterday and this song was #3 on there. I think it will be #1 on their countdown next weekend. I have been seeing a lot of tweets about this song.
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 17, 2016 16:36:03 GMT -5
"Top Of The World" and "Burning House" got removed from Mediabase this afternoon, so "My Church" makes its MB debut at #40 -- an 18 spot climb from last week.
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Post by bksouthga on Jan 18, 2016 0:53:42 GMT -5
I haven't heard this on the radio yet but gave it a listen tonight and...I like it. I'm usually fairly attuned to sacrilege, but this doesn't really strike me that way. Side note: I didn't like "Beer with Jesus". I know what Thomas Rhett was getting at, but that's a little too far for me. This one, on the other hand, seems more to speak to the power of music on the soul. I have experienced that from time to time with certain songs or even whole albums. One that does that every time for me is Jackson Browne's excellent album "Late for the Sky". I put that one on and listen to the entire album and it truly does speak to my soul. If you've never listened to it, try it out. Anyway, I look forward to hearing this on the radio sometime soon.
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Post by travelrocks24 on Jan 19, 2016 9:19:32 GMT -5
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 19, 2016 16:26:54 GMT -5
"My Church" is the most added song on Mediabase this week with 65 adds on impact day. Maren got close to 100 total stations by impact day.
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Post by rsmatto on Jan 19, 2016 19:11:48 GMT -5
"My Church" is the most added song on Mediabase this week with 65 adds on impact day. Maren got close to 100 total stations by impact day. OTV or not, that's a strong impact week. Sales soared too. This is trending for a Cam-like impact in 2016.
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 19, 2016 19:13:00 GMT -5
"My Church" is the most added song on Mediabase this week with 65 adds on impact day. Maren got close to 100 total stations by impact day. OTV or not, that's a strong impact week. Sales soared too. This is trending for a Cam-like impact in 2016. It's also about to eclipse the MB top 30 and should be in Billboard's top 30 this evening.
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Post by rsmatto on Jan 19, 2016 19:16:51 GMT -5
OTV or not, that's a strong impact week. Sales soared too. This is trending for a Cam-like impact in 2016. It's also about to eclipse the MB top 30 and should be in Billboard's top 30 this evening. It's Top 30 in sales too.
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 19, 2016 19:36:18 GMT -5
OTV or not, that's a strong impact week. Sales soared too. This is trending for a Cam-like impact in 2016. and should be in Billboard's top 30 this evening. Almost, lol. Maren fell 60k short of finishing in the Billboard Airplay top 30 this week. "Fix" snagged the #30 position.
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Post by travelrocks24 on Jan 20, 2016 10:20:24 GMT -5
focusonthe615.com/2016/01/20/maren-morris-my-church-sets-country-radio-record-with-107-first-week-chart-reporting-country-radio-stations-spinning-the-debut-single/Columbia Nashville singer/songwriter Maren Morris’ debut single “My Church” makes Country radio history today with a record breaking 107 first week Country radio chart reporting stations spinning the song that the Village Voice describes as being a “windows-down anthem about finding composure and contentment behind the wheel.” As the No. 1 most added song at Country radio for the week, “My Church” sets the record for the highest charting debut single by a female in Country Aircheck’s Mediabase history and with today’s massive radio impact, “My Church” leaps to No. 32 on the Billboard Country Airplay Chart. The previous record for a debut single was 99 “adds” at impact date, until today.
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Post by mus1cr0w on Jan 20, 2016 12:59:30 GMT -5
It kinda bothers me that articles are written like this. Yes she broke records - but not without the ridiculous help of "On The Verge".
All the articles and even the bloggers leave this very important fact out.
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Post by dm2081 on Jan 20, 2016 15:21:11 GMT -5
OTV is the equivalent of using steroids in sports, it should require an asterisk with any record breaking.
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Post by rsmatto on Jan 20, 2016 15:27:02 GMT -5
It kinda bothers me that articles are written like this. Yes she broke records - but not without the ridiculous help of "On The Verge". All the articles and even the bloggers leave this very important fact out. MR I know people follow charts closely but its comments like this that I find "ridiculous." The story tells a truth about the early success of the single, nothing more, nothing less. To think anything about integrity or that it's "very important" to let fans know songs get extra help through the programs like OTV belies the fact that 99.9% of the world don't care.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Jan 20, 2016 15:38:50 GMT -5
It kinda bothers me that articles are written like this. Yes she broke records - but not without the ridiculous help of "On The Verge". All the articles and even the bloggers leave this very important fact out. MR The reason that articles and bloggers are leaving this very important fact out is that the sites are all faithfully copying and pasting a press release from Sony Nashville ( this one), which was of course going to leave out the pre-arranged role of a major media conglomerate in this milestone. So what you're observing is the new media culture of generating page hits by reproducing other people's content, with no added value. And, of course, there's the fact that media/blog access to goodies from the labels depends on them replicating press releases as original articles, without any skepticism. rsmatto, your assertion that "99.9% of the world doesn't care" about how the milestone came about misses the point. I mean, 99.9% of the world probably doesn't care about a lot of things that they actually might care about if they knew the truth behind them. I don't think it's ridiculous at all to prefer that a milestone to be represented accurately. In this case, the breakout first-week airplay success of Maren Morris's "My Church" depended on pre-arranged conglomerate buy in. This was a group of radio programmers representing a significant chunk of the published chart coordinating to decide that a song was a hit before radio listeners had a chance to weigh in, contrary to radio's assurances that it's the listeners who decide things like this. On the bright side, unlike cases like Chase Bryant and Michael Ray, conglomerate buy-in on "My Church" is accompanied by strong signs of consumer buy-in, as well, and so the corporate support will turn out to have been well-directed.
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Post by rsmatto on Jan 20, 2016 15:42:57 GMT -5
It kinda bothers me that articles are written like this. Yes she broke records - but not without the ridiculous help of "On The Verge". All the articles and even the bloggers leave this very important fact out. MR The reason that articles and bloggers are leaving this very important fact out is that the sites are all faithfully copying and pasting a press release from Sony Nashville ( this one), which was of course going to leave out the pre-arranged role of a major media conglomerate in this milestone. So what you're observing is the new media culture of generating page hits by reproducing other people's content, with no added value. And, of course, there's the fact that media/blog access to goodies from the labels depends on them replicating press releases as original articles, without any skepticism. rsmatto, your assertion that "99.9% of the world doesn't care" about how the milestone came about misses the point. I mean, 99.9% of the world probably doesn't care about a lot of things that they actually might care about if they knew the truth behind them. I don't think it's ridiculous at all to prefer that a milestone to be represented accurately. In this case, the breakout first-week airplay success of Maren Morris's "My Church" depended on pre-arranged conglomerate buy in. This was radio programmers deciding a song was a hit before radio listeners had a chance to weigh in, contrary to radio's assurances that it's the listeners who decide things like this. On the bright side, unlike cases like Chase Bryant and Michael Ray, conglomerate buy-in is accompanied by strong signs of consumer buy in, as well, and so the corporate support will turn out to have been well-directed. Yes, I know they are. Which is largely wrong (full on reposting of stories). But that also,go s to a lack of incentive for anyone to fact check anything in the world of news. It's been my experience, though, that labels wouldn't and usually don't object to things like OTV being pointed out or being critical.
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Post by kanimal on Jan 21, 2016 0:47:49 GMT -5
I'd argue that anyone who truly cares about a country radio add record knows enough about the industry to also care if any special forces helped facilitate that record. You'll surely have "fan" types who just latch onto the abstract notion of Maren Morris setting some records at country radio, but wouldn't it be valuable to give these people some insight into how radio works? I don't at all think one would need belabor the On The Verge point -- or even use it to demean the record. Frankly, while OTV is an overt form of assistance, add counts are, in general, about the promo team and backroom "deals" as much as if not more than they are about the quality and resonance of the song. We've definitely seen some "records" across formats -- Better Than You Left Me at country, In Love With A Boy at pop as recent examples -- that neither jibe with consumer reaction to the song nor actual airplay support from PDs. You can additionally make the case that "My Church" *earned* the record by virtue of earning "On The Verge" (with credit either going to the promo team for successfully lobbying iHeart or, if you believe OTV is 100% merit-based, the song for winning iHeart's support). Still, I think it's important to reference OTV for the purpose of creating context. While the juxtaposition of the press release with blog articles makes "My Church" an easy target, this lack of context has been an ongoing thing across publications big and small, veteran and new. Back when Billboard used to publish a weekly radio column, it *often* overlooked hourly iHeart "World Premiere" deals when talking about big chart debuts. Those same deals will naturally lead to big first add weeks, yet you'll see Hits Daily Double report the adds absent that qualifier. Billboard has included some OTV/World Premiere songs in its Tomorrow's Hits column (and similar articles) without identifying them as such. Billboard has a mixed history when it comes to price breaks. They generally will identify when a discount results in an album sales boost but may not when an iTunes discount results in a single sales boost. Clearly they value context in some cases, but more consistency is necessary. As for why, there are numerous factors. There's the laziness/cut-and-paste element, as 43dudleyvillas noted. There's the label schmoozing factor -- not so much in the sense that labels will blacklist you if you're critical, but in the sense that they'll give you more + quote you/Tweet you/help build your brand if you say something really nice. There's artist social media. Humans are by nature star obsessed, and media outlets are by nature page views obsessed. Consequently, you'll often see outlets - even veteran, supposedly authoritative ones - frame stories in a way that is more likely to generate celebrity Tweets/Re-Tweets. I also think there's the "music discovery" factor (see: my Tomorrow's Hits example above). If you're a blog and you "predict" 'My Church' to be a big hit, you're going to look really awesome when that pans out. Drawing attention to the fact that it had help makes you look less awesome.
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Post by travelrocks24 on Jan 23, 2016 12:04:42 GMT -5
She has done it, #1 on "The Highway" with this song. I called it a week ago.
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Post by Marv on Jan 23, 2016 22:51:59 GMT -5
This chart 'accomplishment' thanks to thst OTB designation certainly calls for an asterisk as someone previously noted;
This is certainly not a record shattering debut of an historical magnitude as opposed to 'We Are The World' at top 40 radio in 1985 which will never be matched, so lots of 'journalists' definitely whiffed on this episode.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jan 24, 2016 3:49:43 GMT -5
This chart 'accomplishment' thanks to thst OTB designation certainly calls for an asterisk as someone previously noted; This is certainly not a record shattering debut of an historical magnitude as opposed to 'We Are The World' at top 40 radio in 1985 which will never be matched, so lots of 'journalists' definitely whiffed on this episode. At the end of the day though, asterisk or not, these 'journalists' reported a fact that is technically speaking 100% correct.
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Post by travelrocks24 on Jan 24, 2016 15:51:44 GMT -5
I am trying to understand the argument with why this song should have an asterisk next to it.
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Post by bboat11 on Jan 24, 2016 16:14:35 GMT -5
I am trying to understand the argument with why this song should have an asterisk next to it. Some people feel that, in acknowledging how well this song is doing right off-the-bat, reporters should also acknowledge that the OTV program has contributed greatly to that initial success. And that any and all records broken by this song should come with a disclaimer that the song did not beat those records according to its own merits, but rather that the OTV program gave it the boost that made it great. I personally think that either way we are splitting hairs with this argument. Whatever records this song breaks due to OTV will be nowhere near as egregious as "Cruise" going down in history as a 12-billion-week #1 single on the Hot Country Songs chart because of the super convenient methodology change... It's time to let it rest, and just enjoy the fact that this debut song by a talented female appears to be having a promising start thus far!
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Post by travelrocks24 on Jan 25, 2016 10:18:03 GMT -5
Thanks for answering.....
I listened to the EP on Spotify a few times last week, and I don't think it is that good. However, I suspect she has more music on the horizon, whether it comes in the form of an EP or a CD, time will tell.
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Post by goodsoul81 on Jan 25, 2016 14:19:07 GMT -5
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