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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2015 20:20:07 GMT -5
I was reading a magazine that had "Mr. Misunderstood" (the album) featured. It says "featuring "Mr. Misunderstood" and "Kill A Word"".
Possible next single?
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Post by sabre14 on Dec 18, 2015 20:23:46 GMT -5
I would be all for "Kill A Word" to be a single at some point (its my favorite song on the album) but I would have to think that "Round Here Buzz" or "Record Year" would be the next single.
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Post by phil1996 on Dec 18, 2015 22:23:52 GMT -5
He was saying on his radio show on Sirius that "Kill a Word" is a song that people need to hear.
Record Year would be a sure fire hit but I'm sure Kill a Word would do well
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Post by dm2081 on Dec 18, 2015 23:41:03 GMT -5
I'm sure all 3 of them will get released eventually. Stickers tend to be right though more often than not.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Dec 19, 2015 0:37:55 GMT -5
As long as "Chattanooga Lucy" doesn't get released as a single, I'm fine.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Dec 19, 2015 1:41:34 GMT -5
I've come across this a few times on radio and don't mind it. He's very hit-or-miss with me (I genuinely like very few of his singles), but this one is more on the good side for me. That said, the tempo change (or however you'd describe it) that happens in the song irks me a lot and keeps me from enjoying it as much as I might otherwise. Something feels off about it to me.
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Post by hosssulpizio on Dec 19, 2015 2:23:04 GMT -5
I've come across this a few times on radio and don't mind it. He's very hit-or-miss with me (I genuinely like very few of his singles), but this one is more on the good side for me. That said, the tempo change (or however you'd describe it) that happens in the song irks me a lot and keeps me from enjoying it as much as I might otherwise. Something feels off about it to me. Really? I'm surprised you don't like that. I like the changing tempos. Reason why is that not many artists do that anymore. Eric is staying true to what he does best.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Dec 19, 2015 2:27:10 GMT -5
I've come across this a few times on radio and don't mind it. He's very hit-or-miss with me (I genuinely like very few of his singles), but this one is more on the good side for me. That said, the tempo change (or however you'd describe it) that happens in the song irks me a lot and keeps me from enjoying it as much as I might otherwise. Something feels off about it to me. Really? I'm surprised you don't like that. I like the changing tempos. Reason why is that not many artists do that anymore. Eric is staying true to what he does best. There's something about the way it happens in the song that bothers me. Like it doesn't feel like it was executed as well as it could've been imo. I'm always kind of half-listening to it when it's on because it doesn't grab my attention completely and then I'm kind of jolted into being like "wait, did the tempo change on this? wtf happened?" It just doesn't feel like a smooth transition to me and it just manages to irk me a bit every time I hear the song.
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Post by bksouthga on Dec 19, 2015 12:30:11 GMT -5
Really? I'm surprised you don't like that. I like the changing tempos. Reason why is that not many artists do that anymore. Eric is staying true to what he does best. There's something about the way it happens in the song that bothers me. Like it doesn't feel like it was executed as well as it could've been imo. I'm always kind of half-listening to it when it's on because it doesn't grab my attention completely and then I'm kind of jolted into being like "wait, did the tempo change on this? wtf happened?" It just doesn't feel like a smooth transition to me and it just manages to irk me a bit every time I hear the song. I think that contributes to a certain "garage-iness" that he is trying to get across, which if you notice some of the names he drops in the song, along with other influences he has mentioned in others, this is not surprising. Even though Eric is a country artist he has some pretty far-ranging interests and influences.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2015 12:37:07 GMT -5
I assume we're talking about the tempo change right before the "Alabama Hannah" part? Yeah, that's pretty much my favorite part of the song. That transition, and the lyrics that follow right after...I just love everything about that part.
And YES at "Kill A Word" potentially being a single. It's probably my favorite song on the album, although I think either "Record Year" or "Round Here Buzz" would be a better 2nd single, and then they could go with KAW 3rd and then whichever one (RY or RHB) they didn't go with 2nd could be the 4th single.
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Post by sabre14 on Dec 19, 2015 14:56:38 GMT -5
My father has the same complaint about the change in tempo after "Alabama Hannah" (I remember him hating the key change in "Separate Ways" by Rick Trevino).
Eric talked about it at length during his Outsiders radio show on Sirius/XM last month. I personally love that part of the song, too. :)
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Dec 19, 2015 15:12:13 GMT -5
This song really hits all my sweet spots. The melody is strong, which is rare for a Casey Beathard co-write. I love the changes in tempo, because they add sonic variety and grab my attention throughout. On top of that, I was often the "weird kid" growing up, so the message of a "misunderstood" person making it big really hits home for me, thanks in part to Eric's illustrative story-telling here.
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Post by bksouthga on Dec 19, 2015 15:12:46 GMT -5
My father has the same complaint about the change in tempo after "Alabama Hannah" (I remember him hating the key change in "Separate Ways" by Rick Trevino). Eric talked about it at length during his Outsiders radio show on Sirius/XM last month. I personally love that part of the song, too. :) Well, really it changes tempo two more times too. It gets even faster for the third verse (after everyone on Beale Street dances), and then slows back down toward the end of the song and then comes almost to a complete stop at the very end. Have any of you ever listened to Laura Nyro? She wrote some songs like "And When I Die" by Blood Sweat and Tears and "Stoned Soul Picnic" by the Fifth Dimension, and "Eli's Coming" by Three Dog Night. She also recorded quite a bit of her own stuff. She did some of the craziest stuff with tempo and groove changes I've ever heard. I can't imagine what it must have been like to be her drummer. Anyway, check out her stuff if you like that sort of thing or those groups. "Eli and the 13th Confession" is a good album of hers.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2015 14:25:02 GMT -5
Interesting. I didn't know they kept tallies. Good for Eric.
On a side note, sheesh there must have been a lot of depressing nights at bars around the country this year with "Girl Crush" rattling the speakers. Pour me another.
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Post by bksouthga on Jan 11, 2016 0:27:30 GMT -5
ESPN was doing a special tonight for the run-up to the college national championship tomorrow night (which Eric is doing a concert as part of) and he was being interviewed by Marty Smith. They talked football but also a pretty good bit of music too with his new album. It was pretty interesting, and I enjoyed it. I don't care what anybody says, that dude is an ARTIST! I'm glad that he has had enough success to build up the capital and credibility to do things the way he wants to do them.
I wish that some less established artists were afforded this kind of level of creative freedom (see thread on Tyler Farr's "Better in Boots", for example).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2016 2:17:52 GMT -5
"Mr. Misunderstood" is just a couple weeks away from the top 10, as it climbs to #16 on tonight's Billboard chart with a gain of more than 2 million. Blake and Tim will go recurrent next week, and the week after that we'll probably see Jana leave, and maybe 1-2 others. Carrie will almost certainly jump ahead of Eric, but I think he can stay ahead of FGL and everybody else. I'm not convinced this will go all the way to #1, but top 10 seems very likely. I absolutely love this song but it's a little faster-paced than the typical radio single, and I wonder if that might hold it back a bit (there's also the fact that Eric's had several singles peak in the 5-16 range throughout his career).
On a related note, I saw a commercial advertising Eric's album on ESPN the other day, and it featured "Record Year" (and not just in the background; most of the chorus could be heard at full volume). I thought that was pretty cool.
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Post by dm2081 on Jan 18, 2016 19:46:17 GMT -5
This one has really clicked for me lately. I always enjoyed it, but I feel now I'm starting to realize just how great it is. It definitely leans more towards the rock spectrum IMO, so that may be the reason why radio is being a little hesistant with this one. This seems like a great live song for him to play, one that really captures the essence of rock n' roll. I love the tempo change too, it's a nice break from most of today's predictable mainstream singles. I bet this one will narrowly make the top 10 and then stall out. Still, Eric has proven he doesn't need consecutive #1 hits to sell out arenas, and his album's show his willingness to record whatever the heck he wants.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2016 11:14:27 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks that this one is struggling. Eric's bullet is rather low.
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 22, 2016 13:53:46 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks that this one is struggling. Eric's bullet is rather low. Its definitely not doing great (lost spins and 160k in audience today). I think we're looking at a similar situation to "Country Nation" or even his last single ("Like A Wrecking Ball"), where it's a chore to get it into the top 10. I don't think this one will be going #1 or even top 5. I guess it's just different enough on Country radio to be showing some resistance.
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Post by phil1996 on Jan 22, 2016 14:27:08 GMT -5
Even if this doesn't hit top 5 I'm still gonna guess "Record Year" is gonna be a big #1 assuming it's next
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Post by kml567 on Jan 22, 2016 15:07:36 GMT -5
It looks like Eric Church may be the biggest victim out of Hurricane Stapleton's whirlwind success. Eric used to be the coolest guy in Country and known as the "critical darling" among his male peers, but now he's been replaced by Chris Stapleton as the new cool guy that's doing better than Eric both commercially and in terms of critical acclaim (Grammy/CMA wins). While Eric still has some buzz, I definitely feel momentum went way down ever since Stapleton stole his thunder at the CMA's. The album's only sold 289k and now selling just 6k a week. I can't imagine Eric beating Stapleton on any upcoming award shows either now that Chris is the new critical darling. Will be interesting to see how Eric's team deals with the under-performance of both the album and the lead single.
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 22, 2016 15:28:48 GMT -5
Even if this doesn't hit top 5 I'm still gonna guess "Record Year" is gonna be a big #1 assuming it's next I agree that "Record Year" seems like the #1 single waiting to happen off this album but I'm really starting to wonder of "Kill A Word" is the second single. I'm sure both will be released.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Jan 22, 2016 16:25:45 GMT -5
It looks like Eric Church may be the biggest victim out of Hurricane Stapleton's whirlwind success. Eric used to be the coolest guy in Country and known as the "critical darling" among his male peers, but now he's been replaced by Chris Stapleton as the new cool guy that's doing better than Eric both commercially and in terms of critical acclaim (Grammy/CMA wins). While Eric still has some buzz, I definitely feel momentum went way down ever since Stapleton stole his thunder at the CMA's. The album's only sold 289k and now selling just 6k a week. I can't imagine Eric beating Stapleton on any upcoming award shows either now that Chris is the new critical darling. Will be interesting to see how Eric's team deals with the under-performance of both the album and the lead single. I'm going to sound pedantic here, but looking at Mr. Misunderstood's terrific critical reviews and its consistent placement on critics' 2015 best-of lists, Chris Stapleton definitely didn't replace Eric Church as a critical darling. What you're referring to is Chris Stapleton taking over as the male industry darling, as manifest through awards (which are separate from critical opinion). The thing is, even before Chris Stapleton's surge, Eric was a perennial awards bridesmaid anyway, the sole exception being his CMA/ACM Album wins for Chief. He wasn't winning Male Vocalist awards before Stapleton did, The Outsiders lost out to Platinum at every awards show, and the singles from The Outsiders lost out to "Automatic," "Follow Your Arrow," "Girl Crush," "Something in the Water" and "I'm Not Gonna Miss You" at various awards shows. While it's true that Stapleton's Traveller is likely to beat out Mr. Misunderstood for Album of the Year at the ACM Awards, Mr. Misunderstood won't face the album at the CMAs or the Grammys, and Mr. Misunderstood has to be considered among the current frontrunners for CMA Album of the Year (though if Miranda gets a full album out by the end of June, she automatically becomes the frontrunner in that category). "Record Year," if released, is going to be catnip for Song/Single nominations, and will help solidify the album's presence in industry voters' minds. Moreover, I'm not sure why you think that Team Church would consider changing anything in reaction to a possible radio underperformance of "Mr. Misunderstood." Eric is the only male country superstar who isn't guaranteed a #1 with every single he releases -- he's not even guaranteed a top-10. It hasn't stopped him from riskier single choices, several of which have moved the needle considerably more than conventional #1s from his brethren. So I would expect him to do what he always does...alternate between singles more in the vein of what radio is likely to embrace and riskier selections. I do agree with you that the surprise release of Mr. Misunderstood would have been much more buzzed about out of the gate if not for Hurricane Stapleton (I like that terminology), and that the album probably would have had a stronger holiday season of sales if not in Stapleton's shadow. That said, Church gave 2.5K CD & white vinyl copies of the album and 13K free digital copies of the album away to paying fan club members before its official release, per his management, and Eric hasn't done any press to support the album, in contrast to the big-time press build-up The Outsiders received. I think that Eric Church and his team have demonstrated amply over the years that they're content to play the long game, and I expect that to manifest itself in their plan with this album, as well. It seems to me that Mr. Misunderstood has only deepened the Church Choir's commitment to Eric, and that this will manifest in his touring numbers when he hits the road again. Between that, surefire hits/awards nomination bait like "Record Year" and televised performances at the ACMs and CMAs, I don't think that Mr. Misunderstood is going to have any trouble at all mustering the presence it needs in terms of commercial impact and overall exposure to be considered a success for Eric Church.
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Post by dm2081 on Jan 22, 2016 17:06:44 GMT -5
I like "Record Year" and "Kill A Word", but I really want "Round Here Buzz" next. I think that would be his most successful single commercially. The chorus is so infectious and the song will relate to many of country music's core listeners.
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Post by phil1996 on Jan 22, 2016 20:05:25 GMT -5
It looks like Eric Church may be the biggest victim out of Hurricane Stapleton's whirlwind success. Eric used to be the coolest guy in Country and known as the "critical darling" among his male peers, but now he's been replaced by Chris Stapleton as the new cool guy that's doing better than Eric both commercially and in terms of critical acclaim (Grammy/CMA wins). While Eric still has some buzz, I definitely feel momentum went way down ever since Stapleton stole his thunder at the CMA's. The album's only sold 289k and now selling just 6k a week. I can't imagine Eric beating Stapleton on any upcoming award shows either now that Chris is the new critical darling. Will be interesting to see how Eric's team deals with the under-performance of both the album and the lead single. I'm going to sound pedantic here, but looking at Mr. Misunderstood's terrific critical reviews and its consistent placement on critics' 2015 best-of lists, Chris Stapleton definitely didn't replace Eric Church as a critical darling. What you're referring to is Chris Stapleton taking over as the male industry darling, as manifest through awards (which are separate from critical opinion). The thing is, even before Chris Stapleton's surge, Eric was a perennial awards bridesmaid anyway, the sole exception being his CMA/ACM Album wins for Chief. He wasn't winning Male Vocalist awards before Stapleton did, The Outsiders lost out to Platinum at every awards show, and the singles from The Outsiders lost out to "Automatic," "Follow Your Arrow," "Girl Crush," "Something in the Water" and "I'm Not Gonna Miss You" at various awards shows. While it's true that Stapleton's Traveller is likely to beat out Mr. Misunderstood for Album of the Year at the ACM Awards, Mr. Misunderstood won't face the album at the CMAs or the Grammys, and Mr. Misunderstood has to be considered among the current frontrunners for CMA Album of the Year (though if Miranda gets a full album out by the end of June, she automatically becomes the frontrunner in that category). "Record Year," if released, is going to be catnip for Song/Single nominations, and will help solidify the album's presence in industry voters' minds. Moreover, I'm not sure why you think that Team Church would consider changing anything in reaction to a possible radio underperformance of "Mr. Misunderstood." Eric is the only male country superstar who isn't guaranteed a #1 with every single he releases -- he's not even guaranteed a top-10. It hasn't stopped him from riskier single choices, several of which have moved the needle considerably more than conventional #1s from his brethren. So I would expect him to do what he always does...alternate between singles more in the vein of what radio is likely to embrace and riskier selections. I do agree with you that the surprise release of Mr. Misunderstood would have been much more buzzed about out of the gate if not for Hurricane Stapleton (I like that terminology), and that the album probably would have had a stronger holiday season of sales if not in Stapleton's shadow. That said, Church gave 2.5K CD & white vinyl copies of the album and 13K free digital copies of the album away to paying fan club members before its official release, per his management, and Eric hasn't done any press to support the album, in contrast to the big-time press build-up The Outsiders received. I think that Eric Church and his team have demonstrated amply over the years that they're content to play the long game, and I expect that to manifest itself in their plan with this album, as well. It seems to me that Mr. Misunderstood has only deepened the Church Choir's commitment to Eric, and that this will manifest in his touring numbers when he hits the road again. Between that, surefire hits/awards nomination bait like "Record Year" and televised performances at the ACMs and CMAs, I don't think that Mr. Misunderstood is going to have any trouble at all mustering the presence it needs in terms of commercial impact and overall exposure to be considered a success for Eric Church. I think both the album and the title track have legitimate chances to win awards in 2016. He's doing great with his music, don't think there's any stopping that right now. He did "Record Year" at the college football concert that aired on ESPN, which leads me to believe that's probably the front runner for the second single.
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Post by bksouthga on Jan 22, 2016 23:01:44 GMT -5
Since a lot of you are fond of making predictions, I predict that this will go #1 in six weeks. Week of March 7.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2016 23:39:12 GMT -5
Since a lot of you are fond of making predictions, I predict that this will go #1 in six weeks. Week of March 7. You think this one can more than double its audience in six weeks' time? Eric's at least 25 million away from #1. He'd need to average a gain of about 4.2 million a week over the next 6 weeks to have a chance at #1...and that's virtually impossible. Even Luke Bryan doesn't climb that fast. I think the best-case scenario for this song is a peak somewhere in the 5-10 range. It's a great song, but as I said before, I've never really viewed it as an obvious #1. It's very fast-paced at times and it can be quite hard to make out some of the lyrics. That's not the best recipe for a surefire hit. If a newer artist had recorded this song, I doubt it would have even made it to the top 30. Eric, however, can take unconventional releases like this and turn them into top 20 and top 10 hits, but these aren't the types of songs that are gonna get 7000+ spins a week at country radio.
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 23, 2016 0:05:11 GMT -5
Since a lot of you are fond of making predictions, I predict that this will go #1 in six weeks. Week of March 7. Since a lot of you are fond of making predictions, I predict that this will go #1 in six weeks. Week of March 7. You think this one can more than double its audience in six weeks' time? Eric's at least 25 million away from #1. He'd need to average a gain of about 4.2 million a week over the next 6 weeks to have a chance at #1...and that's virtually impossible. Even Luke Bryan doesn't climb that fast. I don't quite know if bksouthga's post was meant to be serious or humorous (hope I wasn't the only one who thought this, lol). There's literally zero chance this song can reach #1 in six weeks. :)
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Post by joey2002 on Jan 23, 2016 1:45:21 GMT -5
Since a lot of you are fond of making predictions, I predict that this will go #1 in six weeks. Week of March 7. I predict that this will go #1 next week. It'll jump from #15 to #1 after a 10 million AI gain Saturday and a 15 million AI gain on Sunday. Inside info. ;)
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