HITS: 1/15/16: David Bowie #1 171k/177k, Adele #2 119k/136k

[Libra]

For now I will also say that it is gratifying to see that he could come away with #1 this week. I fully expect it to be happening over in the UK, where they are much more reactive to just about any/everything, let alone this, but since we're not nearly so here in the States, there is an element of pleasant surprise in there.

[magik]

Jan 13, 2016 12:57:00 GMT -5 when the pawn... said:

Jan 13, 2016 12:29:30 GMT -5 magik said:

It's not a reference points for sales. It's a reference point that it will be long forgotten years from now.

If it's not a reference point to 25 (like previous examples of Alanis/Hootie/Norah were), it is 100% irrelevant, no?

Take out his name and replace it with theirs, and I would still feel the same way. Adele's music won't be "collecting dust".

Jan 13, 2016 13:18:08 GMT -5 Devil Marlena Nylund said:

Jan 13, 2016 12:29:30 GMT -5 magik said:

It's not a reference points for sales. It's a reference point that it will be long forgotten years from now.

It's a reference point for how you try to diminish what someone else is saying that you disagree with by using something you know they like as an example to prove a point, even when it doesn't even apply nor is it even likely to be accurate. Move on because you've already failed at this discussion.

No, it's exactly what the hell I said it was. I don't need your permission to "move on" or continue, either.

[jenglisbe]

Jan 13, 2016 17:59:25 GMT -5 Libra said:

For now I will also say that it is gratifying to see that he could come away with #1 this week. I fully expect it to be happening over in the UK, where they are much more reactive to just about any/everything, let alone this, but since we're not nearly so here in the States, there is an element of pleasant surprise in there.

What makes you say the UK is more reactive? And, really, how would Bowie being #1 or not being #1 in the U.S. necessarily mean anything? Bowie is British, so you'd expect him to sell well there post-death.

Did Aaliyah's self-titled album go to #1 in the UK after her death the way it did in the U.S.?

[Deleted]

Jan 13, 2016 21:14:16 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Jan 13, 2016 17:59:25 GMT -5 Libra said:

For now I will also say that it is gratifying to see that he could come away with #1 this week. I fully expect it to be happening over in the UK, where they are much more reactive to just about any/everything, let alone this, but since we're not nearly so here in the States, there is an element of pleasant surprise in there.

What makes you say the UK is more reactive? And, really, how would Bowie being #1 or not being #1 in the U.S. necessarily mean anything? Bowie is British, so you'd expect him to sell well there post-death.

Did Aaliyah's self-titled album go to #1 in the UK after her death the way it did in the U.S.?

I agree with both of you, really.  I don't really wanna get into which country is more reactive, as that depends on who we're talking about.... but I can't say that I expected THIS kind of iTunes love in the US on both singles and albums.  I would have HOPED, but wouldn't have bet my life on it.  It's wonderful and heartwarming, and a reminder that not all has been lost on this new generation.  Maybe some at least sampled some of it because it was in the top 10, instead of saying "i don't know him" and walking away. Taking the opportunity - as unfortunate as it is - to inform oneself of who/what has everyone so sad and reminiscent and wanting to spend money to relive it all.  That's all.

[Deleted]

Jan 13, 2016 21:14:16 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Jan 13, 2016 17:59:25 GMT -5 Libra said:

For now I will also say that it is gratifying to see that he could come away with #1 this week. I fully expect it to be happening over in the UK, where they are much more reactive to just about any/everything, let alone this, but since we're not nearly so here in the States, there is an element of pleasant surprise in there.

What makes you say the UK is more reactive? And, really, how would Bowie being #1 or not being #1 in the U.S. necessarily mean anything? Bowie is British, so you'd expect him to sell well there post-death.

Did Aaliyah's self-titled album go to #1 in the UK after her death the way it did in the U.S.?

No, but she had her first #1 single with her first single after her death there ("More Than A Woman").

The lead single from Bowie's 2013 album went to #6 in the UK, becoming his biggest hit since the 80s there. While his death is certainly significantly boosting sales all around the world, Bowie is a massive icon in the UK, had a comeback a few years ago, and this album has been receiving exceptional reviews (his best in decades). It likely would have had an impressive debut in the UK regardless.

The UK charts have shown major reactivity to things like musician deaths over the years, but they also didn't have the same kind of recurrent rules like there were on the US charts up until a few years ago. You had an act like Michael Jackson selling albums and singles in droves in 2009, and then when the main charts were published, you only saw any impact on the ones like the Catalog Albums. Meanwhile in the UK, all his singles and albums were eligible to chart right alongside current hits. I think that led to some degree of making the US seem like it wasn't as "reactive" to these kind of things as other countries were.

[myhouse911]

Jan 13, 2016 9:50:51 GMT -5 areyoureadytojump said:

Adele is already #61 on the best selling SS albums list. With this week's sales, she moves up to #56.

Thanks to oldblokes for these sales estimates!

Best Selling Albums in the SoundScan Era 1991-2015

Rank - Estimated Sales (m) - TITLE - Artist - (Year Released) RIAA

01 - 16.22 - METALLICA - Metallica - (1991) ▲16
02 - 15.62 - COME ON OVER - Shania Twain - (1997) ▲20
03 - 15.03 - JAGGED LITTLE PILL - Alanis Morissette - (1995) ▲16
04 - 12.66 - 1 - Beatles - (2000) ▲11
05 - 12.27 - MILLENNIUM - Backstreet Boys - (1999) ▲13
06 - 12.18 - THE BODYGUARD - Soundtrack - (1992) ▲17
07 - 11.92 - LEGEND - Bob Marley & the Wailers - (1984) ▲15
08 - 11.90 - SUPERNATURAL - Santana - (1999) ▲15
09 - 11.71 - HUMAN CLAY - Creed - (1999) ▲11
10 - 11.45 - 21 - Adele - (2011) ▲11
11 - 11.17 - NO STRINGS ATTACHED - 'NSync - (2000) ▲11
12 - 11.09 - COME AWAY WITH ME - Norah Jones - (2002) ▲10
13 - 10.87 - THE MARSHALL MATHERS LP - Eminem - (2000) ▲10
14 - 10.87 - FALLING INTO YOU - Celine Dion - (1996) ▲11
15 - 10.64 - BABY ONE MORE TIME - Britney Spears - (1999) ▲14
16 - 10.62 - THE EMINEM SHOW - Eminem - (2002) ▲10
17 - 10.38 - HYBRID THEORY - Linkin Park - (2000) ▲10
18 - 10.33 - CRACKED REAR VIEW - Hootie & the Blowfish - (1994) ▲16
19 - 10.25 - CONFESSIONS - Usher - (2004) ▲10
20 - 10.20 - TITANIC - Soundtrack - (1997) ▲11
21 - 10.20 - TEN - Pearl Jam - (1991) ▲13
22 - 10.15 - BACKSTREET BOYS - Backstreet Boys - (1997) ▲14
23 - 9.95 - DARK SIDE OF THE MOON - Pink Floyd - (1973) ▲15
24 - 9.65 - LET'S TALK ABOUT LOVE - Celine Dion - (1997) ▲10
25 - 9.57 - ROPIN' THE WIND - Garth Brooks - (1991) ▲14

26 - 9.52 - DEVIL WITHOUT A CAUSE - Kid Rock - (1998) ▲11
27 - 9.51 - GREATEST HITS - Bob Seger & the Silver Bullet Band - (1994) ▲9
28 - 9.35 - NEVERMIND - Nirvana - (1991) ▲10
29 - 9.23 - OOPS I DID IT AGAIN - Britney Spears - (2000) ▲10
30 - 9.01 - NO FENCES - Garth Brooks - (1990) ▲17
31 - 8.91 - WIDE OPEN SPACES - Dixie Chicks - (1998) ▲12
32 - 8.88 - HELL FREEZES OVER - Eagles - (1994) ▲9
33 - 8.86 - 'NSYNC - 'NSync - (1998) ▲10
34 - 8.85 - GREATEST HITS - Journey - (1988) ▲15
35 - 8.61 - II - Boyz II Men - (1994) ▲12
36 - 8.58 - COUNTRY GRAMMAR - Nelly - (2000) ▲9
37 - 8.45 - FLY - Dixie Chicks - (1999) ▲10
38 - 8.37 - GET RICH OR DIE TRYIN' - 50 Cent - (2003) ▲6
39 - 8.36 - GREATEST HITS - Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers - (1993) ▲12
40 - 8.30 - CHRISTINA AGUILERA - Christina Aguilera - (1999) ▲8
41 - 8.29 - TRAGIC KINGDOM - No Doubt - (1996) ▲10
42 - 8.27 - YOURSELF OR SOMEONE LIKE YOU - Matchbox Twenty - (1997) ▲12
43 - 8.25 - DOOKIE - Green Day - (1994) ▲10
44 - 8.08 - BREATHLESS - Kenny G - (1992) ▲12
45 - 8.04 - ALL THE WAY…A DECADE OF SONG - Celine Dion - (1999) ▲7
46 - 7.98 - O BROTHER WHERE ART THOU - Soundtrack - (2000) ▲8
47 - 7.91 - ALL THE RIGHT REASONS - Nickelback - (2005) ▲8
48 - 7.90 - THE LION KING - Soundtrack - (1994) ▲10
49 - 7.89 - FALLEN - Evanescence - (2003) ▲7
50 - 7.88 - 2001 - Dr Dre - (1999) ▲6

51 - 7.82 - THE HITS - Garth Brooks - (1994) ▲10
52 - 7.79 - THE WOMAN IN ME - Shania Twain - (1995) ▲12
53 - 7.70 - CRAZYSEXYCOOL - TLC - (1994) ▲11
54 - 7.67 - UNPLUGGED - Eric Clapton - (1992) ▲10
55 - 7.67 - DAYDREAM - Mariah Carey - (1995) ▲10
56 - 7.59 - SIGNIFICANT OTHER - Limp Bizkit - (1999) ▲7
57 - 7.51 - SOME GAVE ALL - Billy Ray Cyrus - (1992) ▲9
58 - 7.48 - PIECES OF YOU - Jewel - (1996) ▲12
59 - 7.46 - SPICE - Spice Girls - (1997) ▲7
60 - 7.44 - SOME HEARTS - Carrie Underwood - (2005) ▲7
61 - 7.44 - 25 - Adele - (2015) ▲8

Thanks for these numbers. I'm aware of how certifications work, but in my opinion I see that 29 of these 61 albums are "over-certified", some more significantly than others (I based this one album that were certified at approx. 2+ million of what their actual sales were. i.e Green Day's "Dookie at 10x Platinum and 8.25m sales.) Only 5 are under-certified.
The majority which are over-certified are from the 90's.

Over-certified:
Shania Twain (Come on Over 20x, 15.62m)
The Bodyguard (17x, 12.18m)
Bob Marley (Legend 15x, 11.92m)
Santana (Supernatural 15x, 11.90m)
Britney Spears (Baby One More Time 14x, 10.64m)
Hootie and the Blowfish (Cracked Rear View Mirror 16x, 10.33m)
Pearl Jam (Ten 13x, 10.20m)
Backstreet Boys (Backstreet Boys 14x, 10.15m)
Pink Floyd (Dark Side 15x, 9.95m)
Garth Brooks (Ropin' the Wind 14x, 9.57m)
Kid Rock (Devil Without a Cause 11x, 9.52m)
Garth Brooks (No Fences 17x, 9.01m)
Dixie Chicks (Wide Open Space 12x, 8.91m)
NSYNC (NSYNC 10x, 8.86m)
Journey (Greatest Hits 15x, 8.85m)
Boyz II Men (II 12x, 8.61m)
Dixie Chicks (Fly 10x, 8.45m)
Tom Petty (Greatest Hits 12x, 8.36m)
No Doubt (Tragic Kingdom 10x, 8.29m)
Matchbox Twenty (Yourself or 12x, 8.27m)
Green Day (Dookie 10x, 8.25m)
Kenny G (Breathless 12x, 8.08m)
The Lion King (10x, 7.90m)
Garth Brooks (The Hits 10x, 7.82m)
Shania Twain (The Woman in Me 12x, 7.79m)
TLC (CrazySexyCool 11x, 7.70m)
Eric Clapton (Unplugged 10x, 7.67m)
Billy Ray Cyrus (Some Gave All 9x, 7.51m)
Jewel (Pieces of You 12x, 7.48m)

Under-certified:
Beatles (1 11x, 12.66m)
Norah Jones (Come Away with Me 10x, 11.09m)
50 Cent (Get Rich or Die Tryin' 6x, 8.37m)
Celine Dion (All the Way... A Decade of Hits 7x, 8.04m)
Dr. Dre (2001 6x, 7.88m)

[jenglisbe]

Jan 13, 2016 23:24:56 GMT -5 myhouse911 said:

Thanks for these numbers. I'm aware of how certifications work, but in my opinion I see that 29 of these 61 albums are "over-certified", some more significantly than others (I based this one album that were certified at approx. 2+ million of what their actual sales were. i.e Green Day's "Dookie at 10x Platinum and 8.25m sales.) Only 5 are under-certified.
The majority which are over-certified are from the 90's.

Over-certified:
Shania Twain (Come on Over 20x, 15.62m)
The Bodyguard (17x, 12.18m)
Bob Marley (Legend 15x, 11.92m)
Santana (Supernatural 15x, 11.90m)
Britney Spears (Baby One More Time 14x, 10.64m)
Hootie and the Blowfish (Cracked Rear View Mirror 16x, 10.33m)
Pearl Jam (Ten 13x, 10.20m)
Backstreet Boys (Backstreet Boys 14x, 10.15m)
Pink Floyd (Dark Side 15x, 9.95m)
Garth Brooks (Ropin' the Wind 14x, 9.57m)
Kid Rock (Devil Without a Cause 11x, 9.52m)
Garth Brooks (No Fences 17x, 9.01m)
Dixie Chicks (Wide Open Space 12x, 8.91m)
NSYNC (NSYNC 10x, 8.86m)
Journey (Greatest Hits 15x, 8.85m)
Boyz II Men (II 12x, 8.61m)
Dixie Chicks (Fly 10x, 8.45m)
Tom Petty (Greatest Hits 12x, 8.36m)
No Doubt (Tragic Kingdom 10x, 8.29m)
Matchbox Twenty (Yourself or 12x, 8.27m)
Green Day (Dookie 10x, 8.25m)
Kenny G (Breathless 12x, 8.08m)
The Lion King (10x, 7.90m)
Garth Brooks (The Hits 10x, 7.82m)
Shania Twain (The Woman in Me 12x, 7.79m)
TLC (CrazySexyCool 11x, 7.70m)
Eric Clapton (Unplugged 10x, 7.67m)
Billy Ray Cyrus (Some Gave All 9x, 7.51m)
Jewel (Pieces of You 12x, 7.48m)

Some of those discrepancies are due to record club sales as record clubs were big in the 90s (Come On Over had sold about 2 million copies through BMG alone as of early 2003). At the same time, some of the differences in sales and certification are too big to attribute to record club sales. I've always found The Woman In Me interesting. It has only sold 100k more than Daydream, for example, yet is certified for 2 million more.

[myhouse911]

^right, yes I forgot about the club sales. Mariah's certifications I think are pretty on point with her sales, ya? Shania while huge in the 90s, is severely over-certified, but hey, if stores wanted the album, BMG sure got there monies worth.

Anyway, back on topic, just wanted to acknowledge the sales/certs.

[jenglisbe]

Jan 13, 2016 23:39:44 GMT -5 myhouse911 said:

Mariah's certifications I think are pretty on point with her sales, ya?

In a general sense, yes, but when you compare her with similar selling albums, then no. There is the Daydream example I mentioned there (and then TLC's CrazySexyCool has sold less than 100k more yet is certified for 1 million more). Another example is that Mariah's Rainbow has sold more via Soundscan and BMG record club than Whitney's MLIYL, yet Whitney's album is certified for 1 million more.

[myhouse911]

I just meant that Mariah's sales reflect her certifications. Not comparing hers to other artists.

[Libra]

jenglisbe to also give another recent example (not involving death): Last year, when Sam Smith teamed with John Legend for the new version of "Lay Me Down" for their Comic Relief telethon, both that and In the Lonely Hour each shot to #1. The single probably isn't a surprise, but the album?

That's the kind of general greater reactivity that I'm referring to - big events having greater chart effects there than here. Bowie's death...just happens to be that event in this case. :(

Though, as Jazzy mentioned, The New Day was successful for him there. (Hell, Blackstar going to #1 over there wouldn't have been a big surprise even if he hadn't died.)

[Zach]

Jan 13, 2016 23:31:15 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Jan 13, 2016 23:24:56 GMT -5 myhouse911 said:

Some of those discrepancies are due to record club sales as record clubs were big in the 90s (Come On Over had sold about 2 million copies through BMG alone as of early 2003). At the same time, some of the differences in sales and certification are too big to attribute to record club sales. I've always found The Woman In Me interesting. It has only sold 100k more than Daydream, for example, yet is certified for 2 million more.

Also some others are due to the album being released pre-Soundscan. Bob Marley's Legend, for example was released in 1984 and therefore most likely sold several million before the counting of sales included in that list began. Any other albums there that could fall into this category?

[jenglisbe]

Jan 14, 2016 8:35:34 GMT -5 Zach said:

Jan 13, 2016 23:31:15 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Also some others are due to the album being released pre-Soundscan. Bob Marley's Legend, for example was released in 1984 and therefore most likely sold several million before the counting of sales included in that list began. Any other albums there that could fall into this category?

Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon would be the biggest example. If it ever got re-certified, it could pass Thriller. Isn't DSOTM a double album?

[YourFaveIsAFlop]

Jan 14, 2016 0:49:16 GMT -5 Libra said:

jenglisbe to also give another recent example (not involving death): Last year, when Sam Smith teamed with John Legend for the new version of "Lay Me Down" for their Comic Relief telethon, both that and In the Lonely Hour each shot to #1. The single probably isn't a surprise, but the album?

That's the kind of general greater reactivity that I'm referring to - big events having greater chart effects there than here. Bowie's death...just happens to be that event in this case. :(

Or is it a case where sales in general are in dipping so low there that even moderate spikes in interest can shoot albums/singles to #1? This has been the case in France, for example, where the single chart is 100% sales based

[areyoureadytojump]

Jan 14, 2016 8:39:20 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Jan 14, 2016 8:35:34 GMT -5 Zach said:

Also some others are due to the album being released pre-Soundscan. Bob Marley's Legend, for example was released in 1984 and therefore most likely sold several million before the counting of sales included in that list began. Any other albums there that could fall into this category?

Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon would be the biggest example. If it ever got re-certified, it could pass Thriller. Isn't DSOTM a double album?

DSOTM is not a double album.

Pink Floyd fans think it's around 21xP.

15x Multi-Platinum | June 4, 1998
13x Multi-Platinum | March 7, 1994
12x Multi-Platinum | September 19, 1991
11x Multi-Platinum | February 16, 1990
Platinum | February 16, 1990
Gold | April 17, 1973

Harvest Records is still around. They certified a digital single last year.

[DJ General]

Jan 13, 2016 17:44:33 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Bowie has only ever won 1 Grammy - for Music Video in the mid-80s - so that may help his narrative, too. It's not like he's someone who has won a ton to where they may not feel a need to recognize him more.

Good point. But I really hope they do not just award him because he doesn't have GRAMMYs and died. The album was already getting really good reviews before his death, so that is good. But we shouldn't just be giving awards away for no reason. I do think he will probably secure quite a few other ones, at least nominations for sure. I think he will win something for sure and be nominated for AOTY at the moment is a for sure thing, but who knows about a win.

[jenglisbe]

Jan 14, 2016 12:18:55 GMT -5 areyoureadytojump said:

Jan 14, 2016 8:39:20 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon would be the biggest example. If it ever got re-certified, it could pass Thriller. Isn't DSOTM a double album?

DSOTM is not a double album.

Pink Floyd fans think it's around 21xP.

15x Multi-Platinum | June 4, 1998
13x Multi-Platinum | March 7, 1994
12x Multi-Platinum | September 19, 1991
11x Multi-Platinum | February 16, 1990
Platinum | February 16, 1990
Gold | April 17, 1973

Harvest Records is still around. They certified a digital single last year.

It's at 9.95 million in sales via Soundscan. If it was certified for 11 million before Soundscan existed, that gets it to at least 21 million so that might be why fans say that. If you look at the other albums around it on the Soundscan chart, they are certified for more than 10 million (Backstreet Boys self-titled album and Garth Brook's Ropin' the Wind are certified at 14 million). That would put DSOTM at 25 million if you add 14 million to the 11 million it was at pre-Soundscan.

[areyoureadytojump]

hitsdailydouble.com/building_album_chart

BUILDING ALBUM SALES CHART

Status: Building 79%

-- 1
DAVID BOWIE
BLACKSTAR
COLUMBIA 96,246
1 2
ADELE
25
XL/COLUMBIA 54,326
-- 3
DAVID BOWIE
BEST OF BOWIE
VIRGIN/EMI 27,564
2 4
JUSTIN BIEBER
PURPOSE
DEF JAM 26,444
3 5
CHRIS STAPLETON
TRAVELLER
MERCURY NASHVILLE 13,795
7 6 TAYLOR SWIFT
1989
BIG MACHINE 7,005
16 7 BRYSON TILLER
T R A P S O U L
RCA 6,793
-- 8 STRAIGHT OUTTA COMPTON: MUSIC FROM THE MOTION PICTURE
SOUNDTRACK
UME 6,738
10 9 THE WEEKND
BEAUTY BEHIND THE MADNESS
XO/REPUBLIC 6,668
8 10 CHRIS BROWN
ROYALTY
RCA 6,498
-- 11 DAVID BOWIE
THE RISE AND FALL OF ZIGGY STARDUST AND THE SPIDERS FROM MARS
RHINO/PARLOPHONE 6,437
13 12 NOW 56
VARIOUS ARTISTS
NOW/LEGACY 6,221
6 13 TWENTY ONE PILOTS
BLURRYFACE
FUELED BY RAMEN 6,163
12 14 ADELE
21
COLUMBIA 5,957
5 15 ONE DIRECTION
MADE IN THE A.M.
SYCO/COLUMBIA 5,873
4 16 RACHEL PLATTEN
WILDFIRE
COLUMBIA 5,499
20 17 G-EAZY
WHEN IT'S DARK OUT
RCA 5,496
19 18 SAM HUNT
MONTEVALLO
MCA NASHVILLE 5,332
14 19 JOHN WILLIAMS (SOUNDTRACK)
STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS
WALT DISNEY 4,848
45 20 J. COLE
2014 FOREST HILLS DRIVE
ROC NATION/COLUMBIA 4,649
11 21 COLDPLAY
A HEAD FULL OF DREAMS
PARLOPHONE 4,533
24 22 THOMAS RHETT
TANGLED UP
VALORY/BMLG 3,885
-- 23 RIHANNON GIDDENS
TOMORROW IS MY TURN
NONESUCH 3,597
9 24 LUKE BRYAN
KILL THE LIGHTS
CAPITOL NASHVILLE 3,590
23 25 JORDAN SMITH
THE COMPLETE SEASON 9 COLLECTION
REPUBLIC 3,556
38 26 CARRIE UNDERWOOD
STORYTELLER
19/ARISTA NASHVILLE 3,549
50 27 ERIC CHURCH
MR. MISUNDERSTOOD
EMI NASHVILLE 3,492
21 28 SELENA GOMEZ
REVIVAL
INTERSCOPE 3,275
23 29 KIDZ BOP KIDS
KIDZ BOP 30
RAZOR & TIE 3,268
-- 30 DAVID BOWIE
HUNKY DORY
RHINO/PARLOPHONE 3,187
15 31 MEGHAN TRAINOR
TITLE
EPIC 2,909
32 32 HALSEY
BADLANDS
ASTRALWERKS/CAPITOL 2,670
18 33 PENTATONIX
PENTATONIX
RCA 2,611
42 34 ADELE
19
XL/COLUMBIA 2,471
37 35 HAMILTON
ORIGINAL BROADWAY CAST
UPTOWN 2,385
25 36 FETTY WAP
FETTY WAP
WMG 2,304
34 37 KENDRICK LAMAR
TO PIMP A BUTTERFLY
TDE/AFTERMATH/INTERSCOPE 2,300
30 38 TROYE SIVAN
BLUE NEIGHBOURHOOD
CAPITOL 2,255
41 39 CHRIS YOUNG
I'M COMIN' OVER
RCA NASHVILLE 2,231
-- 40 CAM
UNTAMED
ARISTA NASHVILLE 2,187
-- 41 BLAKE SHELTON
RELOADED: 20 #1 HITS
WARNER BROS. NASHVILLE 2,099
-- 42 METALLICA
METALLICA
RHINO 2,040
49 43 FLEETWOOD MAC
GREATEST HITS
RHINO 2,022
31 44 TWENTY ONE PILOTS
VESSEL
FUELED BY RAMEN 1,843
-- 45 DRAKE & FUTURE
WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE
YMCMB/REPUBLIC/EPIC 1,806
33 46 FALL OUT BOY
AMERICAN BEAUTY/AMERICAN PSYCHO
DCD2/ISLAND 1,779
17 47 PASSION
SALVATION'S TIDE IS RISING
SIXSTEPSRECORDS 1,774
39 48 ELLE KING
LOVE STUFF
RCA 1,728
-- 49 SHAWN MENDES
HANDWRITTEN
ISLAND 1,725
-- 50 ALESSIA CARA
KNOW-IT-ALL
DEF JAM 1,659

[jenglisbe]

How is it already building with 79% of reports in when the sales week hasn't ended?

[Deleted]

Jan 14, 2016 14:47:45 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

How is it already building with 79% of reports in when the sales week hasn't ended?

That percentage number is arbitrary and not meant to be taken scientifically or seriously, at least not from my experience with it over the years. It's proven itself to be mathematically inaccurate almost every. single. week. haha.  But technically, 79% could potentially be true if it were to have all but one day's worth of reporting for the week.

[jenglisbe]

Jan 14, 2016 15:21:42 GMT -5 @broccoli said:

Jan 14, 2016 14:47:45 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

How is it already building with 79% of reports in when the sales week hasn't ended?

That percentage number is arbitrary and not meant to be taken scientifically or seriously, at least not from my experience with it over the years. It's proven itself to be mathematically inaccurate almost every. single. week. haha.  But technically, 79% could potentially be true if it were to have all but one day's worth of reporting for the week.

How could you even figure out the math of that anyway? I've always understood it to represent the % of reports that were in, but since you wouldn't know which chains/reports were in and what % of sales they represent, there would be no way to figure out the math.

[Enigma.]

Bowie is slaying and rightfully so

[Deleted]

Jan 14, 2016 15:30:29 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Jan 14, 2016 15:21:42 GMT -5 @broccoli said:

That percentage number is arbitrary and not meant to be taken scientifically or seriously, at least not from my experience with it over the years. It's proven itself to be mathematically inaccurate almost every. single. week. haha.  But technically, 79% could potentially be true if it were to have all but one day's worth of reporting for the week.

How could you even figure out the math of that anyway? I've always understood it to represent the % of reports that were in, but since you wouldn't know which chains/reports were in and what % of sales they represent, there would be no way to figure out the math.

Exactly.  That's why I've never paid attention to it, other than in a "we're almost there" kind of thing.   HITS has always been a tongue-in-cheek, playful type of outfit in the way they convey things. 

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Jan 14, 2016 15:38:17 GMT -5 @broccoli said:

Jan 14, 2016 15:30:29 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

How could you even figure out the math of that anyway? I've always understood it to represent the % of reports that were in, but since you wouldn't know which chains/reports were in and what % of sales they represent, there would be no way to figure out the math.

Exactly.  That's why I've never paid attention to it, other than in a "we're almost there" kind of thing.   HITS has always been a tongue-in-cheek, playful type of outfit in the way they convey things. 

But regardless, my point is I don't think I've ever seen them start their building sales chart before the sales week was even over.

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^ do you look every week prior to friday? cuz it's not the first time. most notably, the debut week of Adele they reported 69% on Tuesday. lol.

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Jan 14, 2016 15:40:13 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Jan 14, 2016 15:38:17 GMT -5 @broccoli said:

Exactly.  That's why I've never paid attention to it, other than in a "we're almost there" kind of thing.   HITS has always been a tongue-in-cheek, playful type of outfit in the way they convey things. 

But regardless, my point is I don't think I've ever seen them start their building sales chart before the sales week was even over.

They started doing it when they switched to counting SPS

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hitsdailydouble.com/building_album_chart

BUILDING ALBUM SALES CHART

Status: Final

-- 1
DAVID BOWIE
BLACKSTAR
COLUMBIA 171,072 --
1 2
ADELE
25
XL/COLUMBIA 119,125 -22%
-- 3
DAVID BOWIE
BEST OF BOWIE
RHINO/PARLOPHONE 53,449 --
2 4
JUSTIN BIEBER
PURPOSE
DEF JAM 45,498 -17%
3 5
CHRIS STAPLETON
TRAVELLER
MERCURY NASHVILLE 29,020 2%
6 6 TWENTY ONE PILOTS
BLURRYFACE
FUELED BY RAMEN 15,031 -28%
7 7 TAYLOR SWIFT
1989
BIG MACHINE 14,079 -31%
10 8 THE WEEKND
BEAUTY BEHIND THE MADNESS
XO/REPUBLIC 13,918 -19%
12 9 ADELE
21
COLUMBIA 13,240 -13%
8 10 CHRIS BROWN
ROYALTY
RCA 13,221 -30%
5 11 ONE DIRECTION
MADE IN THE A.M.
SYCO/COLUMBIA 11,342 -48%
-- 12 DAVID BOWIE
THE RISE AND FALL OF ZIGGY STARDUST AND THE SPIDERS FROM MARS
RHINO/PARLOPHONE 10,696 --
-- 13 STRAIGHT OUTTA COMPTON: MUSIC FROM THE MOTION PICTURE
SOUNDTRACK
UME 10,678 --
13 14 NOW 56
VARIOUS ARTISTS
NOW/LEGACY 10,576 -27%
16 15 BRYSON TILLER
T R A P S O U L
RCA 10,440 -23%
19 16 SAM HUNT
MONTEVALLO
MCA NASHVILLE 9,819 -21%
14 17 JOHN WILLIAMS (SOUNDTRACK)
STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS
WALT DISNEY 9,692 -33%
11 18 COLDPLAY
A HEAD FULL OF DREAMS
PARLOPHONE 9,686 -44%
4 19 RACHEL PLATTEN
WILDFIRE
COLUMBIA 9,253 -65%
20 20 G-EAZY
WHEN IT'S DARK OUT
RCA 8,220 -28%
37 21 HAMILTON
ORIGINAL BROADWAY CAST
UPTOWN 7,770 8%
-- 22 MIKE STUD
THESE DAYS
ELECTRIC FEEL 7,635 --
45 23 J. COLE
2014 FOREST HILLS DRIVE
ROC NATION/COLUMBIA 7,623 38%
-- 24 RHIANNON GIDDENS
TOMORROW IS MY TURN
NONESUCH 7,263 --
50 25 ERIC CHURCH
MR. MISUNDERSTOOD
EMI NASHVILLE 7,244 47%
21 26 SELENA GOMEZ
REVIVAL
INTERSCOPE 7,123 -35%
38 27 CARRIE UNDERWOOD
STORYTELLER
19/ARISTA NASHVILLE 6,963 -3%
9 28 LUKE BRYAN
KILL THE LIGHTS
CAPITOL NASHVILLE 6,750 -63%
15 29 MEGHAN TRAINOR
TITLE
EPIC 6,749 -52%
-- 30 DAVID BOWIE
HUNKY DORY
RHINO/PARLOPHONE 6,634 --
23 31 KIDZ BOP KIDS
KIDZ BOP 30
RAZOR & TIE 6,633 -37%
18 32 PENTATONIX
PENTATONIX
RCA 6,483 -49%
42 33 ADELE
19
XL/COLUMBIA 6,059 3%
24 34 THOMAS RHETT
TANGLED UP
VALORY/BMLG 5,883 -41%
31 35 TWENTY ONE PILOTS
VESSEL
FUELED BY RAMEN 5,490 -32%
-- 36 METALLICA
METALLICA
BLACKENED 5,359 30%
32 37 HALSEY
BADLANDS
ASTRALWERKS/CAPITOL 5,187 -35%
34 38 KENDRICK LAMAR
TO PIMP A BUTTERFLY
TDE/AFTERMATH/INTERSCOPE 5,156 -33%
25 39 FETTY WAP
FETTY WAP
WMG 4,945 -47%
29 40 ED SHEERAN
X
ASYLUM UK 4,542 -44%
-- 41 DISTURBED
IMMORTALIZED
REPRISE 4,524 -3%
-- 42 NATHANIEL RATELIFF & THE NIGHT SWEATS
NATHANIEL RATELIFF & THE NIGHT SWEATS
STAX 4,367 3%
39 43 ELLE KING
LOVE STUFF
RCA 4,157 -41%
-- 44 DAVID BOWIE
LET'S DANCE
RHINO/PARLOPHONE 4,131 --
-- 45 BLAKE SHELTON
RELOADED: 20 #1 HITS
WARNER BROS. NASHVILLE 4,073 35%
47 46 BEATLES
1 (2015 VERSION)
CAPITOL 4,035 -25%
-- 47 CAM
UNTAMED
ARISTA NASHVILLE 3,934 24%
30 48 TROYE SIVAN
BLUE NEIGHBOURHOOD
CAPITOL 3,892 -52%
43 49 GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY
SOUNDTRACK
HOLLYWOOD 3,372 -39%
41 50 CHRIS YOUNG
I'M COMIN' OVER
RCA NASHVILLE 3,322 -45%

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hitsdailydouble.com/sales_plus_streaming

SALES PLUS STREAMING CHART

-- 1
DAVID BOWIE
BLACKSTAR
COLUMBIA 177,593 --
1 2
ADELE
25
XL/COLUMBIA 136,462 -23%
-- 3
DAVID BOWIE
BEST OF BOWIE
RHINO/PARLOPHONE 101,718 --
2 4
JUSTIN BIEBER
PURPOSE
DEF JAM 101,091 -12%
4 5
TWENTY ONE PILOTS
BLURRYFACE
FUELED BY RAMEN 38,403 -9%
5 6 THE WEEKND
BEAUTY BEHIND THE MADNESS
XO/REPUBLIC 35,876 -11%
7 7 CHRIS STAPLETON
TRAVELLER
MERCURY NASHVILLE 35,169 -2%
9 8 BRYSON TILLER
T R A P S O U L
RCA 28,269 -5%
3 9 ONE DIRECTION
MADE IN THE A.M.
SYCO/COLUMBIA 26,541 -38%
8 10 FETTY WAP
FETTY WAP
WMG 25,941 -21%
6 11 TAYLOR SWIFT
1989
BIG MACHINE 24,955 -33%
10 12 SELENA GOMEZ
REVIVAL
INTERSCOPE 24,828 -16%
11 13 CHRIS BROWN
ROYALTY
RCA 23,115 -20%
17 14 G-EAZY
WHEN IT'S DARK OUT
RCA 21,893 7%
15 15 SAM HUNT
MONTEVALLO
MCA NASHVILLE 20,639 -18%
19 16 DRAKE & FUTURE
WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE
YMCMB/REPUBLIC/EPIC 19,125 -5%
37 17 J. COLE
2014 FOREST HILLS DRIVE
ROC NATION/COLUMBIA 17,970 35%
20 18 ADELE
21
COLUMBIA 17,249 -11%
-- 19 DAVID BOWIE
THE RISE AND FALL OF ZIGGY STARDUST AND THE SPIDERS FROM MARS
RHINO/PARLOPHONE 17,101 --
13 20 MEGHAN TRAINOR
TITLE
EPIC 16,968 -37%
16 21 COLDPLAY
A HEAD FULL OF DREAMS
PARLOPHONE 15,033 -38%
18 22 THOMAS RHETT
TANGLED UP
VALORY/BMLG 14,731 -27%
12 23 RACHEL PLATTEN
WILDFIRE
COLUMBIA 13,705 -51%
14 24 LUKE BRYAN
KILL THE LIGHTS
CAPITOL NASHVILLE 13,553 -48%
27 25 SHAWN MENDES
HANDWRITTEN
ISLAND 13,487 -20%
30 26 HALSEY
BADLANDS
ASTRALWERKS/CAPITOL 12,860 -17%
41 27 THE CHAINSMOKERS
BOUQUET
PSYCHOPATHIC 12,252 6%
33 28 TWENTY ONE PILOTS
VESSEL
FUELED BY RAMEN 12,216 -13%
39 29 FLO RIDA
MY HOUSE
ATLANTIC 12,050 3%
32 30 FUTURE
DS2
EPIC 11,845 -16%
24 31 FALL OUT BOY
AMERICAN BEAUTY/AMERICAN PSYCHO
DCD2/ISLAND 11,767 -34%
-- 32 STRAIGHT OUTTA COMPTON: MUSIC FROM THE MOTION PICTURE
SOUNDTRACK
UME 11,727 --
26 33 JOHN WILLIAMS (SOUNDTRACK)
STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS
WALT DISNEY 11,519 -34%
35 34 ALESSIA CARA
KNOW-IT-ALL
DEF JAM 11,436 -16%
49 35 HAMILTON
ORIGINAL BROADWAY CAST
UPTOWN 11,175 23%
22 36 DRAKE
IF YOU'RE READING THIS, IT'S TOO LATE
YMCMB/REPUBLIC 11,077 -41%
38 37 CARRIE UNDERWOOD
STORYTELLER
19/ARISTA NASHVILLE 10,787 -11%
-- 38 DAVID BOWIE
HUNKY DORY
RHINO/PARLOPHONE 10,749 --
31 39 NOW 56
VARIOUS ARTISTS
NOW/LEGACY 10,576 -27%
23 40 DEMI LOVATO
CONFIDENT
SAFEHOUSE/HOLLYWOOD/ISLAND 10,053 -46%
21 41 ELLIE GOULDING
DELIRIUM
INTERSCOPE 9,988 -48%
36 42 ED SHEERAN
X
ASYLUM UK 9,908 -26%
28 43 ELLE KING
LOVE STUFF
RCA 9,878 -39%
-- 44 ERIC CHURCH
MR. MISUNDERSTOOD
EMI NASHVILLE 9,636 29%
29 45 PENTATONIX
PENTATONIX
RCA 9,034 -44%
42 46 KENDRICK LAMAR
TO PIMP A BUTTERFLY
TDE/AFTERMATH/INTERSCOPE 8,930 -19%
49 47 MICHAEL JACKSON
ESSENTIAL MICHAEL JACKSON
EPIC 8,292 --
-- 48 DISTURBED
IMMORTALIZED
REPRISE 8,173 15%
-- 49 DAVID BOWIE
LET'S DANCE
RHINO/PARLOPHONE 8,028 --
-- 50 MIKE STUD
THESE DAYS
ELECTRIC FEEL 7,897 --

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Amazing numbers for Bowie!

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Great sales for Bowie and glad to see him get his first #1 album in the US.