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Post by velaxti on Jan 25, 2016 15:48:01 GMT -5
Wow, I'm surprised Roses isn't higher than #8. I think it could peak around #5 eventually.
Look at how high G-Eazy is! THIS is the kind of performance that you should be looking for for potential future #1s.
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Post by jj99$ - - LeLe on Jan 25, 2016 17:21:16 GMT -5
Yes WDYM STILL TOP10. Tied Nicki and Maroon 5.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jan 25, 2016 17:23:52 GMT -5
Claws are really out for Adele, eh? Like some people have been waiting for her to "flop" or at least have a reason to discredit the success No. They don't want her to flop. WWWY is not following their personal "timetable" for the song. They expect Top Ten *now.* Not in February...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2016 17:38:39 GMT -5
I should note, my comment about WWWY is not about wishing for a flop. I think the label is doing a weak job of promoting it. If you look at how a more typical mega artist is promoted, their second single usually flies to the top (or near the top) very quickly. WWWY is chugging along, but very slowly. Sure, maybe there will be some huge push circa the Grammys with a video and a release to streaming and it'll be another multi-week #1 for her, but I think if you look at a lot of other mega artist 2nd singles, they were already flying high in the top ten before that level of promotion kicked in. And, on top of that, there's no guarantee that her label is going to even do that kind of promotion here. I also just fundamentally think WWWY is not as strong of a single -- Water Under the Bridge and Send My Love strike me as the 2 other obvious singles on the album. broccoli pretty much said this in another way, but timing is really important, and in Adele's case I think there is actually such a thing as too soon. She is not really trying to pull a Justin Bieber and have multiple songs dominating at once; Columbia surely wants the era to have longevity and there's a good chance Adele herself has put a cap on how many singles she's willing to promote. So IMO it is radio, not the label, that screwed up some by jumping on WWWY back in December. Everyone will probably be ready to move on from WWWY by March, when Columbia was likely hoping to have the single stretch to the beginning of May. The slow down is weird to me not so much because I expected WWWY to fly straight to the top in the blink of an eye, but because PDs are the one who started playing the song so early. Not quite understanding why they'd be overeager to spin it a lot and then take their foot off the pedal (unless the label quietly asked them to hold back for a bit). Callout has not shown up for it yet but I doubt it's getting a notably bad reception. I personally am playing the wait-and-see game until after the Grammys. I don't think Columbia is being weak about it, just trying to extend the life of the song and album as long as possible. I will concede that by conventional standards WWWY isn't the strongest choice - it's actually my 'least' favorite song on the album, although I do like it. The verses and bridge are fantastic, but the chorus is a mouthful and not as melodic as the rest of the song. But I think it will be okay when it is all said and done, and by making it the second single it saves the two upbeat songs for the spring/summer.
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Post by badrobot on Jan 25, 2016 17:52:26 GMT -5
^I think Adele's release schedule put her in a weird position. Radio is now used to lead singles coming out a few months in advance of an album, not just a few weeks, and are eager to jump on to a new song as soon as the album comes out (hence the early airplay for WWWY). But since Hello was still so new and flying high, it was definitely too early then to switch gears to a new song.
Regardless, I think everyone can agree that this scenario is at least *unusual* -- second single climbing into the top 15 of airplay without streaming or a video or any other indication of promo. It could turn out wonderfully once some switch is flipped, but I think there's also a distinct possibility that this song does not end up becoming a #1 smash.
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Post by velaxti on Jan 25, 2016 18:39:09 GMT -5
lol at the melt-downs just because a few people have said that WWWY probably won't go #1 (and the funny thing is those people are probably right). It's not a personal attack on Adele, it's people making observations. I don't mind Adele. And personally, I've never said the song will flop. Infact, I've said multiple times that it will be a HIT! I think I might have predicted a #2 peak in another thread!
Here's some bullet points for Adele fans to copy and paste in every post:
- Adele's album has sold millions, people already have the song - Radio adds date will boost the song's airplay - TV performance will boost the song's sales - Spotify will increase the song's streaming - Music video will give a boost to sales and increase streaming
This does not mean the song will go to #1. In terms of the Hot 100, most songs get radio adds, most pop songs get TV performances (most others don't and they can still be hits), most songs are on Spotify, most songs get music videos. They don't all go to #1. Adele's album has sold bucket-loads, and that's not going to help either. And I don't think Spotify and music video are even guaranteed (although I hope they do happen).
If any of you really think it's going to #1 just stay quiet until after the song has peaked and then you have a field-day and ridicule us!
And who even cares if it charts at #3 or #6 or #12 instead of #1? So what? Does it matter? It's still obviously going to be a hit, that's what really matter. Adele missed #1 with Rumour Has It and Skyfall even though a lot of people thought they'd get there and obviously that hasn't hurt her career. Maybe her 3rd single will go #1. Just chill down people. No need to panic at the mere suggestion of WWWY possibly not going #1...
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Post by ry4n on Jan 25, 2016 18:42:57 GMT -5
What Do You Mean / Hotline Bling / Stitches really need to leave the top 10 already
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Jan 25, 2016 19:14:33 GMT -5
Stitches stayed in top 10 for 17 weeks already, I'm not even that old..
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Post by onebuffalo on Jan 25, 2016 19:15:54 GMT -5
Prior to last year, Justin Bieber could not buy a #1 hit. Now, he has the top two spots to himself and could have a third chart topper.
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Jan 25, 2016 19:21:36 GMT -5
Prior to last year, Justin Bieber could not buy a #1 hit. Now, he has the top two spots to himself and could have a third chart topper. If One Direction is as big as him, then how come they only have 2 songs that stayed more than 1 week in top 10?
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Post by Au$tin on Jan 25, 2016 20:19:24 GMT -5
Wow, I'm surprised Roses isn't higher than #8. I think it could peak around #5 eventually. Look at how high G-Eazy is! THIS is the kind of performance that you should be looking for for potential future #1s. That song and I Took a Pill in Ibiza are giving me Blurred Lines/Get Lucky vibes. I just haven't decided which one will be the dominant one yet. Both massive, though.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2016 20:43:08 GMT -5
Wow, I'm surprised Roses isn't higher than #8. I think it could peak around #5 eventually. Look at how high G-Eazy is! THIS is the kind of performance that you should be looking for for potential future #1s. That song and I Took a Pill in Ibiza are giving me Blurred Lines/Get Lucky vibes. I just haven't decided which one will be the dominant one yet. Both massive, though. I'm gonna say most likely Me, Myself, and I. It took longer, but it's just now rising big on Radio. It's already doing very well in Sales and Streaming.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2016 21:05:28 GMT -5
Wow, it took Stressed Out this long to hit rhythmic radio? Better late then never, I guess. Looks like it might have a chance to make up some ground on radio if this update's any indication.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 25, 2016 22:01:53 GMT -5
WWWY was just officially serviced to radio on January 22nd. 3 days ago. While radio add dates don't necessarily matter (obviously, as it's already top 15 by the time it was officially serviced)... it does mean the label has a timeline in place to work/promote it - which JUST began 3 days ago. This is far from the timeline that would require this song to be smashing/flopping already, especially without a proper video and/or potential audio streaming availability. I'm anxious to see how it plays out in terms of peak and longevity on the Hot 100, smash or not. Have its updates been better since that date? Claws are really out for Adele, eh? Like some people have been waiting for her to "flop" or at least have a reason to discredit the success People questioning how "WWWY" is doing doesn't necessarily mean they have been waiting for her to flop. I own both 21 and 25 (as well as some songs from 19) and record Adele when she's on TV. I like her. I've also questioned how I think "WWWY" - which is actually a song I love - is doing. I don't think it's right to assume that just because a person questions something it means they want that thing to happen. I'm just looking at the facts and drawing my own conclusion based on them. It's nothing more than that.
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Post by Ravi on Jan 25, 2016 23:02:02 GMT -5
Bieber's "Purpose" era will be something to look out for, as far as the record for most Top-10 weeks tally by singles is considered.
So far
What Do You Mean- 21 Weeks Sorry - 13 Weeks Love Yourself - 10 weeks
Total (so far) - 44 Weeks
Sorry and Love Yourself are also looking at around 20 weeks each, so that's around 60 weeks for the first 3 singles itself.
Albums with 50+ weeks in recent times (2009 - present):
1. Katy Perry - Teenage Dream (6) - 92 weeks 2. Taylor Swift - 1989 (5) - 72 weeks 3. The Black Eyed Peas - The E.N.D.(5) - 60 weeks 4. The Weeknd - Beauty Behind the Madness(3) - 58 weeks 5. Lady Gaga - Fame(4) - 57 weeks 6. Adele - 21(3) - 54 weeks 7. Flo Rida - Wild Ones(4) - 51 weeks 8. LMFAO - Sorry For Party Rocking(2) - 50 weeks
(*If I'm missing an album, please mention here and I will check it out).
Beating Katy Perry will require huge 4th and 5th singles, so it is too early to talk about that record. However, #2 is certainly up for grabs with a very successful 4th single or two moderately successful 4th and 5th singles. #3 is almost locked now.
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Jan 26, 2016 0:06:03 GMT -5
Dude, sorry for nitpicking, but it's actually 54 weeks (RITD 20 wks+ SLY 20 wks+ SFTTR 14 wks)
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Jan 26, 2016 0:21:46 GMT -5
Bieber's "Purpose" era will be something to look out for, as far as the record for most Top-10 weeks tally by singles is considered. So far What Do You Mean- 21 Weeks Sorry - 13 Weeks Love Yourself - 10 weeks Total (so far) - 44 Weeks Sorry and Love Yourself are also looking at around 20 weeks each, so that's around 60 weeks for the first 3 singles itself. Albums with 50+ weeks in recent times (2009 - present): 1. Katy Perry - Teenage Dream - 92 weeks 2. Taylor Swift - 1989 - 72 weeks 3. The Black Eyed Peas - The E.N.D. - 60 weeks 4. The Weeknd - Beauty Behind the Madness - 58 weeks 5. Lady Gaga - Fame - 57 weeks 6. Adele - 21 - 55 weeks 7. Flo Rida - Wild Ones - 51 weeks (*If I'm missing an album, please mention here and I will check it out). Beating Katy Perry will require huge 4th and 5th singles, so it is too early to talk about that record. However, #2 is certainly up for grabs with a very successful 4th single or two moderately successful 4th and 5th singles. #3 is almost locked now. Followed: 8. Lmfao - Sorry for party rocking - 29+21=50 weeks (wow at 2 songs made 50 weeks.. In 2011-2012!) 9. Bruno Mars' debut album - 22+17+10=49 weeks 10. Ariana Grande - My Everything 16+16+8+7=47 weeks (Bang Bang counts) 10. Meghan Trainor - Title 25+12+10=47 weeks 12. Rihanna - Loud 15+14+13+3=45 weeks 12. Bruno Mars - Unorthodox Jukebox 20+16+9=45 weeks 14. Fetty Wap - 25+4+15=44 weeks 15. Maroon 5 - Overexposed 19+21+1+2=43 weeks 16. Fun. - Some Nights 22+19=41 weeks 17. Katy Perry - Prism 17+22=39 weeks 18. Lorde - Pure Heroine 23+14=37 weeks Missed any?
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Post by Au$tin on Jan 26, 2016 0:25:39 GMT -5
Bieber's "Purpose" era will be something to look out for, as far as the record for most Top-10 weeks tally by singles is considered. So far What Do You Mean- 21 Weeks Sorry - 13 Weeks Love Yourself - 10 weeks Total (so far) - 44 Weeks Sorry and Love Yourself are also looking at around 20 weeks each, so that's around 60 weeks for the first 3 singles itself. Albums with 50+ weeks in recent times (2009 - present): 1. Katy Perry - Teenage Dream - 92 weeks 2. Taylor Swift - 1989 - 72 weeks 3. The Black Eyed Peas - The E.N.D. - 60 weeks 4. The Weeknd - Beauty Behind the Madness - 58 weeks 5. Lady Gaga - Fame - 57 weeks 6. Adele - 21 - 55 weeks 7. Flo Rida - Wild Ones - 51 weeks (*If I'm missing an album, please mention here and I will check it out). Beating Katy Perry will require huge 4th and 5th singles, so it is too early to talk about that record. However, #2 is certainly up for grabs with a very successful 4th single or two moderately successful 4th and 5th singles. #3 is almost locked now. Followed: 8. Lmfao - Sorry for party rocking - 29+21=50 weeks (wow at 2 songs made 50 weeks.. In 2011-2012!) 9. Bruno Mars' debut album - 22+17+10=49 weeks Fetty Wap - 25+4+15=44 weeks You missed Maroon 5's Overexposed!! Moves like Jagger 21 weeks Payphone 19 weeks One more night 21 weeks Daylight 1 week Love somebody 2 weeks 64 weeks in total!!! Moves Like Jagger is not from Overexposed. It was actually a stand-alone single that ended up being put on Hands All Over quietly after it became so successful.
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Jan 26, 2016 0:38:44 GMT -5
Then Mr. Au(dolla sign)tin, Earned It or Bang Bang shouldn't count as well. I thought these songs count because they are included in the official albums
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Jan 26, 2016 0:43:53 GMT -5
But thank you, Mr. Selfie
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Post by Ravi on Jan 26, 2016 0:44:20 GMT -5
Dude, sorry for nitpicking, but it's actually 54 weeks (RITD 20 wks+ SLY 20 wks+ SFTTR 14 wks) Skyfall also got 1 week. :)
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Post by Au$tin on Jan 26, 2016 0:44:18 GMT -5
Then Mr. Au(dolla sign)tin, Earned It or Bang Bang shouldn't count as well. I thought these songs count because they are included in the official albums You didn't read that correctly at all. "Moves Like Jagger" was never on any version of Overexposed. It was on a reissued version of Hands All Over, their previous album. Dude, sorry for nitpicking, but it's actually 54 weeks (RITD 20 wks+ SLY 20 wks+ SFTTR 14 wks) Skyfall also got 1 week. :) That was for a James Bond film and is not featured on any Adele album.
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Jan 26, 2016 0:47:08 GMT -5
@au$tin I'm so sorry, man.. Now I'm gonna cry
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Post by Au$tin on Jan 26, 2016 0:50:58 GMT -5
You didn't read that correctly at all. "Moves Like Jagger" was never on any version of Overexposed. It was on a reissued version of Hands All Over, their previous album. I'm so sorry, man.. Now I'm gonna cry Don't cry. Also, I seem to be misinformed. It was also a bonus track on the international release of Overexposed, but its first appearance was definitely from the reissue of Hands All Over, meaning it was from that album and not Overexposed. (Also, we're talking the US chart here, and MLJ was not on any US version of Overexposed.)
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Post by imbondz on Jan 26, 2016 0:54:36 GMT -5
I finally heard When We Were Young on the radio and I'll be very surprised if it doesn't go to #1. If it can hang around to graduation it could be huge then too.
Either way she just needs to sing it live once in a big TV performance and it will shoot to #1. Riiiiidiculously good song don't care what anyone says.
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Post by Ravi on Jan 26, 2016 1:02:23 GMT -5
Skyfall also got 1 week. :) That was for a James Bond film and is not featured on any Adele album. Yes you are correct. I will update accordingly.
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Post by Ravi on Jan 26, 2016 1:05:28 GMT -5
Bieber's "Purpose" era will be something to look out for, as far as the record for most Top-10 weeks tally by singles is considered. So far What Do You Mean- 21 Weeks Sorry - 13 Weeks Love Yourself - 10 weeks Total (so far) - 44 Weeks Sorry and Love Yourself are also looking at around 20 weeks each, so that's around 60 weeks for the first 3 singles itself. Albums with 50+ weeks in recent times (2009 - present): 1. Katy Perry - Teenage Dream - 92 weeks 2. Taylor Swift - 1989 - 72 weeks 3. The Black Eyed Peas - The E.N.D. - 60 weeks 4. The Weeknd - Beauty Behind the Madness - 58 weeks 5. Lady Gaga - Fame - 57 weeks 6. Adele - 21 - 55 weeks 7. Flo Rida - Wild Ones - 51 weeks (*If I'm missing an album, please mention here and I will check it out). Beating Katy Perry will require huge 4th and 5th singles, so it is too early to talk about that record. However, #2 is certainly up for grabs with a very successful 4th single or two moderately successful 4th and 5th singles. #3 is almost locked now. Followed: 8. Lmfao - Sorry for party rocking - 29+21=50 weeks (wow at 2 songs made 50 weeks.. In 2011-2012!) 9. Bruno Mars' debut album - 22+17+10=49 weeks 10. Ariana Grande - My Everything 16+16+8+7=47 weeks (Bang Bang counts) 10. Meghan Trainor - Title 25+12+10=47 weeks 12. Rihanna - Loud 15+14+13+3=45 weeks 12. Bruno Mars - Unorthodox Jukebox 20+16+9=45 weeks 14. Fetty Wap - 25+4+15=44 weeks 15. Maroon 5 - Overexposed 19+21+1+2=43 weeks 16. Fun. - Some Nights 22+19=41 weeks 17. Katy Perry - Prism 17+22=39 weeks 18. Lorde - Pure Heroine 23+14=37 weeks Thanks for the list...... I missed SFPR because I ignored it because of only 2 hit singles...... It's still amazing just how huge PRA was!
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Post by Ravi on Jan 26, 2016 1:11:34 GMT -5
Also, is Teenage Dream #1 for the entire SoundScan era? I only started following the charts in 2008, so have no idea about pre-2008 whatsoever.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2016 1:30:08 GMT -5
Bieber's "Purpose" era will be something to look out for, as far as the record for most Top-10 weeks tally by singles is considered. So far What Do You Mean- 21 Weeks Sorry - 13 Weeks Love Yourself - 10 weeks Total (so far) - 44 Weeks Sorry and Love Yourself are also looking at around 20 weeks each, so that's around 60 weeks for the first 3 singles itself. Albums with 50+ weeks in recent times (2009 - present): 1. Katy Perry - Teenage Dream - 92 weeks 2. Taylor Swift - 1989 - 72 weeks 3. The Black Eyed Peas - The E.N.D. - 60 weeks 4. The Weeknd - Beauty Behind the Madness - 58 weeks 5. Lady Gaga - Fame - 57 weeks 6. Adele - 21 - 55 weeks 7. Flo Rida - Wild Ones - 51 weeks (*If I'm missing an album, please mention here and I will check it out). Beating Katy Perry will require huge 4th and 5th singles, so it is too early to talk about that record. However, #2 is certainly up for grabs with a very successful 4th single or two moderately successful 4th and 5th singles. #3 is almost locked now. Followed: 8. Lmfao - Sorry for party rocking - 29+21=50 weeks (wow at 2 songs made 50 weeks.. In 2011-2012!) 9. Bruno Mars' debut album - 22+17+10=49 weeks 10. Ariana Grande - My Everything 16+16+8+7=47 weeks (Bang Bang counts) 10. Meghan Trainor - Title 25+12+10=47 weeks 12. Rihanna - Loud 15+14+13+3=45 weeks 12. Bruno Mars - Unorthodox Jukebox 20+16+9=45 weeks 14. Fetty Wap - 25+4+15=44 weeks 15. Maroon 5 - Overexposed 19+21+1+2=43 weeks 16. Fun. - Some Nights 22+19=41 weeks 17. Katy Perry - Prism 17+22=39 weeks 18. Lorde - Pure Heroine 23+14=37 weeks Missed any? You forgot Macklemore & Ryan Lewis - The Heist 21+17=38 weeks EDIT: also Kesha - Animal 20+1+11+5=37 weeks
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Post by Glove Slap on Jan 26, 2016 2:39:12 GMT -5
Then Mr. Au(dolla sign)tin, Earned It or Bang Bang shouldn't count as well. I thought these songs count because they are included in the official albums You didn't read that correctly at all. "Moves Like Jagger" was never on any version of Overexposed. It was on a reissued version of Hands All Over, their previous album. It was actually included at the end of the International edition of Overexposed as well, but for the purposes of this it shouldn't count.
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