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Post by Choco on Apr 6, 2016 16:57:31 GMT -5
They're using the same strategy for 25 that they used for 21. Singles are released like 6 months apart each. The flaw in that plan is that 21's second single was huge. When We Were Young is dead.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Apr 6, 2016 17:19:44 GMT -5
Wow @ Adele at #9. Where is single #3? From comments at UKMix, promotion is done. Another single may be sent to radio, but don't expect a video or promotion. Stupid! |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Apr 7, 2016 8:11:40 GMT -5
m.hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=300555Wednesday, April 6, 2016 A RACE FOR #1 ON SPS CHART: CAN KANYE AND SCOOTER STREAM TO VICTORY?The latest indicators suggest that Kanye West is on track for about 100m streams this week on The Life of deleted (G.O.O.D./Def Jam) and if download sales from his website are reported and certified and are sufficient to make up the difference, he could overtake Chris Stapleton for the #1 spot on the HITS Sales Plus Streaming (SPS) chart. Those big streaming numbers, of course, come primarily from Spotify and Apple Music, where deleted has been the #1 streaming title since ending its TIDAL exclusive and going wide. The announcement coincided with news that Kanye had added Scooter Braun to his management team. Will Braun, who worked his multi-faceted mojo to shepherd Justin Bieber to an impressive chart victory after a fierce sales battle with One Direction—and launching a massive sales story for Biebs that continues to this day—work that same mojo to bring Kanye a win? Stapleton's Traveller (Mercury Nashville) is a lock for #1 on our Album Sales Chart. Will Kanye rack up the numbers to overtake the Nashville breakout on the SPS side, and become the first release to do so almost entirely with streams? Stay tuned.
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Post by felipe on Apr 7, 2016 15:30:19 GMT -5
So TLOP is elegible even if his website doesn't report sales figures?
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Post by when the pawn... on Apr 7, 2016 17:30:31 GMT -5
Wow @ Adele at #9. Where is single #3? From comments at UKMix, promotion is done. Another single may be sent to radio, but don't expect a video or promotion. Stupid! Wow. I'm all for Adele being an albums artist and doing however little/much promo she wants to do but ending promotion for an 8x platinum album less than 5 months after its release? With multiple hits waiting to be released? They could surely be creative with music videos without working Adele too hard. I've said many times before how huge of a hit this era has been and I obviously still believe so but it is disappointing to think it could be over already. I guess the tour is still pushing it. |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Apr 7, 2016 17:53:27 GMT -5
^Maybe after an 11 million selling album in the USA, the label only expected 8 million total sold for the followup?
They easily reached 8 million so they are done.
Adele won't have to film any more videos or do any of the usual promotion at all.
I think they are making a mistake.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2016 18:49:53 GMT -5
After the album's sold over 8.5 million copies, I'm wondering if it would really be worth it to spend more money on promotion? Sales have peaked long ago, so I'm thinking that subsequent singles would only fuel maybe about 1.5 million more sales. This is peanuts compared to the 7 million from its first few weeks. How much of a return would they get from promotion at this point? Getting started on the next album might actually be a better option here. Don't forget, 25 has already sold as many copies as around 1.5 years of 21's lifespan.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Apr 8, 2016 14:00:37 GMT -5
hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=300588Friday, April 8, 2016 KANYE MAKES HISTORYKanye West is officially the first artist to have an album go #1 with a number based entirely on streaming from the major outlets. There were some paid album downloads for The Life of deleted from the G.O.O.D/Def Jam star’s own website, but the overwhelming majority of the 90k+ earned came from streaming services, including Apple Music, Spotify and Tidal. This unprecedented strategy was crafted with Kanye by new manager Scooter Braun, Steve Bartels and Team Def Jam. Meanwhile, Ye can also be seen atop the iTunes singles chart, thanks to his collaboration with Drake on “Pop Style.”
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Post by Choco on Apr 8, 2016 15:20:30 GMT -5
If Katy Perry can get 5 singles out of Prism, which I believe is around 1.5 million albums sold, Adele can get at least a third single and stay profitable.
Also, two diamond albums in a row is no small feat and she's the only one that can do it currently.
About Kanye, his ego doesn't need the boost of being the first artist to go #1 on streams alone. OK numbers considering the messy release I guess. Hopefully Drake and Beyoncé don't follow this trend and just release their albums the traditional way.
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Post by kanimal on Apr 8, 2016 15:51:26 GMT -5
So Hits is saying Kanye's album *sold* 25K copies (no one figured this was selling more than 5-10K), resulting in a clear-cut victory over Stapleton.
Wow.
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Post by DJ General on Apr 8, 2016 15:58:24 GMT -5
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Underestimate kanyes power. This release was all crazy like Rihanna's but both have shown they are still massive stars and with a more traditional launch they would have shown much better numbers instead of fragmented sales. Kanye is a nut anyways but the album is surely a success for what he intended. Rihanna's album is a monster and don't even try to tell me it's because of streaming changes and singles. The album is FIRE and hot. I mean yeah it is because of the new rules but if this album came out 5 years ago it would yield similar results
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Post by Duca on Apr 8, 2016 16:09:55 GMT -5
Largest second-week percentage sales drop for a No. 1-debuting album: (Hits Daily Double)
1. MADONNA, INTERSCOPE 46,515 -87% MDNA (1-8)
2. ZAYN, RCA 16,493 -86% MIND OF MINE (1-8)
3. SHAWN MENDES, ISLAND 15,982 -85% HANDWRITTEN (1-13)
Largest second-week percentage sales drop for a No. 1-debuting album: (Billboard)
1. Shawn Mendes, Handwritten 12,000 -89% (1-17)
2. Madonna, MDNA 48,000 -87% (1-8)
3. Lady Gaga, Born This Way 174,000 -84% (1-1)
Could Zayn challenge Shawn on Billboard?
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Apr 8, 2016 16:50:53 GMT -5
hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=300593Friday, April 8, 2016 THIS CHART BELONGS TO KANYE deleted Becomes First Album to Hit #1 Based Almost Entirely on Streams With around 100m streams for The Life of deleted–which translates to roughly 65k SEA (Stream Equivalent Albums) and 90k SPS (Sales Plus Streaming)–G.O.O.D/Def Jam megastar Kanye West has officially become the first artist in history to reach #1 with a number based almost entirely on streaming alone. See our full SPS Chart, which Kanye has impressively dominated, here. Although there were some paid downloads from the star’s own website, the overwhelming majority of the number earned came from streaming services, including Apple Music, Spotify and TIDAL. Meanwhile, Mercury Nashville’s Chris Stapleton soars to #1 on the HITS Album Sales Chart with 59k for breakout set Traveller (#2 at SPS with 73k), following a huge look from the ACM Awards, where he scored six wins. FYI, Traveller was released nearly a year ago and first saw a significant sales spike after a jaw-dropping and insanely reactive performance of now beloved ballad “Tennessee Whiskey” with Justin Timberlake on November’s CMAs. It’s safe to say that the man behind the beard is having a damn good year. Three new releases follow Stapleton. At #2, Crush Music’s Weezer appear with 43k, while TWENTY88—a collaborative project between G.O.O.D/Def Jam’s Big Sean and Artium/Def Jam’s Jhené Aiko—debuts at #3 with 40k. And Warner Bros. rising star Lukas Graham bows at #4 with 37k for his debut album, as smash hit “7 Years” approaches platinum status. The Danish band is in some solid company, considering they were virtually unknown just a few months ago. As for the remaining debuts, Big Machine’s Cheap Trick land at #11 with their 17th studio album, Bang, Zoom, Crazy… Hello–just a week before being inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame—while Mascot’s Black Stone Cherry hits the #14 spot. Even excluding Stapleton, the ACMs sparked serious consumer interest, as can be seen throughout the chart. Gaither’s Joey + Rory go #10-7, 19/Arista Nashville’s Carrie Underwood soars #48-19 (up 128%), MCA Nashville’s Sam Hunt jumps #32-29 and Valory/BMLG’s Thomas Rhett goes #38-32, while RCA Nashville’s Chris Young and EMI Nashville’s Eric Church re-enter at #37 and #39, respectively. We’re sure that seeing those numbers feels almost as good as the bottle of Advil did after the Vegas-based awards show. The country community may have been celebrating this weekend, but the passing of Merle Haggard certainly left a sudden pang in many hearts this week. As fans of the late country icon and songwriting master mourn, his 40 #1 Hits (eOne) re-enters the chart at #40. Streeting this week are albums from Dualtone’s The Lumineers and Reprise’s Deftones.
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 8, 2016 16:56:16 GMT -5
After the album's sold over 8.5 million copies, I'm wondering if it would really be worth it to spend more money on promotion? Sales have peaked long ago, so I'm thinking that subsequent singles would only fuel maybe about 1.5 million more sales. This is peanuts compared to the 7 million from its first few weeks. How much of a return would they get from promotion at this point? Getting started on the next album might actually be a better option here. Don't forget, 25 has already sold as many copies as around 1.5 years of 21's lifespan. Plenty of albums have a lot more singles/videos and sell less than 1.5 million total, so Adele selling that off 1-2 more singles would surely be worth it financially. Seriously, it doesn't take much at all to push a song to radio. |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Apr 8, 2016 17:14:10 GMT -5
hitsdailydouble.com/building_album_chartBUILDING ALBUM SALES CHART6 1 CHRIS STAPLETON TRAVELLER MERCURY NASHVILLE 59,012 -- 2 WEEZER WEEZER - WHITE ALBUM CRUSH 43,486 -- 3 TWENTY88 TWENTY88 DEF JAM 40,370 -- 4 LUKAS GRAHAM LUKAS GRAHAM WARNER BROS. 36,806 3 5 ADELE 25 XL/COLUMBIA 29,240 6 KANYE WEST THE LIFE OF deleted G.O.O.D/DEF JAM 25,013 10 7 JOEY + RORY HYMNS GAITHER 21,341 1 8 ZAYN MIND OF MINE RCA 16,493 16 9 RIHANNA ANTI WESTBURY ROAD/ROC NATION 13,562 15 10 JUSTIN BIEBER PURPOSE DEF JAM 13,313 -- 11 CHEAP TRICK BANG ZOOM CRAZY...HELLO BIG MACHINE 13,194 14 12 NOW 57 VARIOUS ARTISTS NOW/LEGACY 12,577 2 13 K. MICHELLE MORE ISSUES THAN VOGUE WMG 12,484 -- 14 BLACK STONE CHERRY KENTUCKY MASCOT 12,090 12 15 GWEN STEFANI THIS IS WHAT THE TRUTH FEELS LIKE INTERSCOPE 11,519 -- 16 BABYMETAL METAL RESISTANCE RED/SME 11,115 -- 17 BERNER HEMPIRE BERN ONE 10,833 9 18 TWENTY ONE PILOTS BLURRYFACE FUELED BY RAMEN 10,533 48 19 CARRIE UNDERWOOD STORYTELLER 19/ARISTA NASHVILLE 10,509 -- 20 PET SHOP BOYS SUPER X2 9,952 8 21 ANTHONY HAMILTON WHAT I'M FEELIN' RCA 9,904 19 22 HAMILTON ORIGINAL BROADWAY CAST UPTOWN 9,535 -- 23 ANDREW BIRD ARE YOU SERIOUS LOMA VISTA 9,503 13 24 JORDAN SMITH SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL REPUBLIC 9,289 20 25 DISTURBED IMMORTALIZED REPRISE 9,044 24 26 KENDRICK LAMAR UNTITLED UNMASTERED TDE/AFTERMATH/INTERSCOPE 8,650 27 27 KEVIN GATES ISLAH BREAD WINNER'S ASSOCIATION 8,397 -- 28 EXPLOSIONS IN THE SKY THE WILDERNESS TEMPORARY RESIDENCE 8,088 32 29 SAM HUNT MONTEVALLO MCA NASHVILLE 7,871 21 30 PANIC! AT THE DISCO DEATH OF A BACHELOR DCD2/FUELED BY RAMEN 7,747 11 31 AMON AMARTH JOMSVIKING METAL BLADE 7,611 38 32 THOMAS RHETT TANGLED UP VALORY/BMLG 7,383 25 33 TAYLOR SWIFT 1989 BIG MACHINE 7,318 4 34 JOE BONAMASSA BLUES OF DESPERATION J&R 6,798 29 35 ADELE 21 XL/COLUMBIA 6,634 17 36 THE WEEKND BEAUTY BEHIND THE MADNESS XO/REPUBLIC 6,534 -- 37 CHRIS YOUNG I'M COMIN' OVER RCA NASHVILLE 6,336 37 38 TIM MCGRAW DAMN COUNTRY MUSIC BIG MACHINE 6,053 -- 39 ERIC CHURCH MR. MISUNDERSTOOD EMI NASHVILLE 5,977 -- 40 MERLE HAGGARD 40 #1 HITS EONE 5,755 47 41 LUKE BRYAN KILL THE LIGHTS CAPITOL NASHVILLE 5,754 35 42 BRYSON TILLER T R A P S O U L RCA 5,385 -- 43 2 CHAINZ COLLEGROVE DEF JAM 5,383 -- 44 METALLICA METALLICA RHINO 5,241 39 45 BONNIE RAITT DIG IN DEEP REDWING 5,133 5 46 ASKING ALEXANDRIA THE BLACK SUMERIAN 4,903 18 47 SIA THIS IS ACTING RCA 4,862 28 48 LAUREN DAIGLE HOW CAN IT BE CENTRICITY 4,768 -- 49 THE LAST SHADOW PUPPETS EVERYTHING YOU'VE COME TO EXPECT DOMINO 4,701 30 50 TWENTY ONE PILOTS VESSEL FUELED BY RAMEN 4,645
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Apr 8, 2016 17:15:06 GMT -5
hitsdailydouble.com/sales_plus_streamingSPS -- 1 KANYE WEST THE LIFE OF deleted G.O.O.D/DEF JAM 90,152 -- 8 2 CHRIS STAPLETON TRAVELLER MERCURY NASHVILLE 72,877 144% -- 3 LUKAS GRAHAM LUKAS GRAHAM WARNER BROS. 59,649 -- -- 4 TWENTY88 TWENTY88 DEF JAM 47,987 -- -- 5 WEEZER WEEZER - WHITE ALBUM CRUSH 46,954 -- 3 6 RIHANNA ANTI WESTBURY ROAD/ROC NATION 45,953 -5% 1 7 ZAYN MIND OF MINE RCA 43,140 -72% 5 8 JUSTIN BIEBER PURPOSE DEF JAM 42,534 -8% 4 9 ADELE 25 XL/COLUMBIA 36,816 -23% 6 10 TWENTY ONE PILOTS BLURRYFACE FUELED BY RAMEN 27,818 -31% 12 11 KEVIN GATES ISLAH BREAD WINNER'S ASSOCIATION 25,741 2% 13 12 BRYSON TILLER T R A P S O U L RCA 23,335 1% 16 13 G-EAZY WHEN IT'S DARK OUT RCA 22,620 -1% 18 14 JOEY + RORY HYMNS GAITHER 21,639 15% 9 15 THE WEEKND BEAUTY BEHIND THE MADNESS XO/REPUBLIC 21,415 -26% 31 16 THOMAS RHETT TANGLED UP VALORY/BMLG 19,385 33% 39 17 DRAKE & FUTURE WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE YMCMB/REPUBLIC/EPIC 18,201 43% 23 18 FETTY WAP FETTY WAP WMG 16,809 -7% 20 19 TAYLOR SWIFT 1989 BIG MACHINE 16,718 -8% 24 20 HAMILTON ORIGINAL BROADWAY CAST UPTOWN 16,533 -7% 36 21 SAM HUNT MONTEVALLO MCA NASHVILLE 16,338 20% 17 22 GWEN STEFANI THIS IS WHAT THE TRUTH FEELS LIKE INTERSCOPE 16,235 -25% 27 23 DISTURBED IMMORTALIZED REPRISE 15,993 -2% 22 24 FLO RIDA MY HOUSE WME 15,849 -12% 21 25 PANIC! AT THE DISCO DEATH OF A BACHELOR DCD2/FUELED BY RAMEN 15,769 -13% 26 26 FUTURE EVOL EPIC 15,606 -11% -- 27 CARRIE UNDERWOOD STORYTELLER 19/ARISTA NASHVILLE 15,556 104% 2 28 K. MICHELLE MORE ISSUES THAN VOGUE WMG 15,096 -73% -- 29 TIM MCGRAW DAMN COUNTRY MUSIC BIG MACHINE 14,111 56% 32 30 KENDRICK LAMAR UNTITLED UNMASTERED TDE/AFTERMATH/INTERSCOPE 13,789 -2% 35 31 J. COLE 2014 FOREST HILLS DRIVE ROC NATION/COLUMBIA 13,449 -1% -- 32 CHEAP TRICK BANG ZOOM CRAZY...HELLO BIG MACHINE 13,400 -- 14 33 SIA THIS IS ACTING RCA 13,105 -43% -- 34 CHRIS YOUNG I'M COMIN' OVER RCA NASHVILLE 13,048 -- -- 35 LUKE BRYAN KILL THE LIGHTS CAPITOL NASHVILLE 12,794 28% 41 36 FUTURE DS2 EPIC 12,783 2% -- 37 BLACK STONE CHERRY KENTUCKY MASCOT 12,715 -- 28 38 NOW 57 VARIOUS ARTISTS NOW/LEGACY 12,577 -21% 29 39 CHARLIE PUTH NINE TRACK MIND ARTIST PARTNER GROUP 12,561 -19% 33 40 SELENA GOMEZ REVIVAL INTERSCOPE 12,380 -11% 7 41 YOUNG THUG SLIME SEASON 3 WMG 12,282 -66% 47 42 DRAKE IF YOU'RE READING THIS, IT'S TOO LATE YMCMB/REPUBLIC 11,994 11% 44 43 JEREMIH LATE NIGHTS: THE ALBUM DEF JAM 11,897 2% -- 44 BABYMETAL METAL RESISTANCE RED/SME 11,716 -- 30 45 TWENTY ONE PILOTS VESSEL FUELED BY RAMEN 11,644 -21% 34 46 HALSEY BADLANDS ASTRALWERKS/CAPITOL 11,546 -16% -- 47 BERNER HEMPIRE BERN ONE 11,322 -- -- 48 ED SHEERAN X ASYLUM UK 11,188 13% 48 49 ADELE 21 XL/COLUMBIA 10,917 1% 43 50 MEGHAN TRAINOR TITLE EPIC 10,829 -7%
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Post by Enigma. on Apr 9, 2016 1:53:06 GMT -5
Wow congrats Kanye! I think Scooter Braun is behind this idea, otherwise we would've never seen deleted on charts
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Post by damita34 on Apr 9, 2016 3:53:49 GMT -5
big drop for K. Michelle :(
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Post by felipe on Apr 9, 2016 6:20:33 GMT -5
How many track streams does it take for an album to crack the BB200 on streaming alone?
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Apr 9, 2016 9:39:28 GMT -5
Bonnie Raitt's holds have been impressive (on the pure album sales chart, not on the SPS chart)
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Post by kanimal on Apr 9, 2016 11:34:05 GMT -5
How many track streams does it take for an album to crack the BB200 on streaming alone? Usually you would need a little over 6 million streams (for a little over 4000 units) |
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Post by felipe on Apr 9, 2016 22:05:19 GMT -5
How many track streams does it take for an album to crack the BB200 on streaming alone? Usually you would need a little over 6 million streams (for a little over 4000 units) Well, I was quite sure Famous had achieved that last week, so I was surprised that TLOP didn't debut on the BB200. |
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Post by ddlz on Apr 10, 2016 18:59:13 GMT -5
I think Scooter Braun is behind this idea He is. Lol |
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