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Post by zaclord π on Jun 7, 2016 18:42:15 GMT -5
This song is 3 weeks old. Good Lord, y'all need to calm down. Their last single missed the top 20, so there's no reason to expect this to be top 40 by week 5, or even week 10. If this becomes a hit, it's gonna take awhile.
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Post by travelrocks24 on Jun 8, 2016 11:23:17 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2016 9:47:01 GMT -5
Look for Maddie & Tae to enter the Top 50 tomorrow on BB as I have the girls passing Chris Janson, Drew Baldridge, Josh Abbott Band & Carly Pearce, re-passing Michael Ray, plus the two recurrents ("My Church" and "Snapback"), but Maddie & Tae will obviously get passed by Blake Shelton's new one, so that should leave to a +5 possibly a +6 if the ladies can pass the falling Kane Brown, so "Sierra" should easily enter the Top 50 this week on BB.
"Sierra" makes its Top 50 debut on MB at #50
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 17, 2016 13:15:24 GMT -5
How is this one doing? I noticed it made it as high as #47 on BB so far but it's been knocked back since then.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2016 13:30:08 GMT -5
How is this one doing? I noticed it made it as high as #47 on BB so far but it's been knocked back since then. This week hasn't been kind too "Sierra". Maddie & Tae has lost around 340k in audience since Monday (I got Saturday's update from trebor) Maddie & Tae's bullet is also rather bad as the girls on Saturday had a bullet of -21, so "Sierra" is definitely struggling and unless things turn around here shortly I don't see this doing much more unfortunately.
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Post by mus1cr0w on Jul 17, 2016 15:09:01 GMT -5
It really is mind boggling to me how badly their momentum has flat lined. From the most buzzed about to merely an afterthought. I feel badly for them being in this situation.
They better come with something phenomenal for the second album.
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Post by renee75 on Jul 19, 2016 10:25:56 GMT -5
I wonder if they would have done better with Your Side of Town. I thought that was one of the best songs on their album.
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Post by maine on Jul 19, 2016 10:34:49 GMT -5
Whenever I see this, I always think of Alex & Sierra lol.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2016 11:40:43 GMT -5
After "Shut Up And Fish" stalled, I didn't think they'd be able to move up the charts with this or anything else from the album. There's just no more momentum for this project. Their best chance at scoring a hit is with album #2.
Am I disappointed that their momentum tailed off after "Fly"? Certainly. (Oh, and btw, "Fly" should have never been the 2nd single). But the way their debut album's singles have played out at country radio is really no different than what happens with pretty much every other new artist. There are a few exceptions (Old Dominion, Sam Hunt, Brett Eldredge, Thomas Rhett, Kelsea Ballerini), but most artists who are newer or simply not very popular tend to get one big hit at the beginning of the album era, and then they'll have maybe one middle-sized hit and then one low-peaking song. It's very rare for a new artist to get 4 singles from their debut album, but of course the main reason Maddie & Tae got 4 singles is because the album wasn't finished yet when "Girl In A Country Song" peaked, and so they released it when "Fly" was climbing. Sometimes new artists (or artists whose singles routinely spend 40+ weeks on the chart) don't even get 3 singles from an album.
Their album is great but I'm not really surprised that their radio momentum has fizzled out. I definitely think they can rebound with album #2, though.
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Post by renee75 on Jul 19, 2016 12:14:54 GMT -5
I hope so!
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Post by bboat11 on Jul 20, 2016 1:59:18 GMT -5
I agree that I think they can rebound with album #2. And I really hope they do, because I think they are two of the most talented and instantly-likable girls in the industry right now. I absolutely loved every song on their debut album, and I want nothing less than for them to become superstars.
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Post by rsmatto on Jul 20, 2016 10:10:24 GMT -5
They've sold around 100k in albums too (if it was released at peak of "girl..." It would've likely sold more than that) so it'll be interesting to see how Big Machine/Dot treats the second album.
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Post by The Brazilian Guy π§π· on Jul 20, 2016 11:41:08 GMT -5
Was not excepting much after the disappointing performance of "Shut Up And Fish" but this is still upsetting... This should've been a big hit! =(
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Post by someguy on Jul 21, 2016 11:02:31 GMT -5
Yeah its underperformance is annoying, but not surprising. I think they can rebound with a new album though.
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Post by Gray. on Jul 21, 2016 11:22:59 GMT -5
After "Shut Up And Fish" stalled, I didn't think they'd be able to move up the charts with this or anything else from the album. There's just no more momentum for this project. Their best chance at scoring a hit is with album #2. Am I disappointed that their momentum tailed off after "Fly"? Certainly. (Oh, and btw, "Fly" should have never been the 2nd single). I completely agree. I don't know why "Fly" was ever even considered for a single. It was the weakest track on the self-titled EP and certainly not one of the standouts on Start Here. It also doesn't help that no other song on Start Here was nearly as buzz-worthy as "Girl in a Country Song."
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 21, 2016 14:01:04 GMT -5
When it was first picked, I thought "Fly" was a strange choice, but I actually think in hindsight it was a pretty good single because it showed a different side to them and it was a beautiful song (I also like it much better than any of the other songs on the EP, so my preference for it as a song paints in a better light). I'm actually really impressed they took it all the way to the Top 10, but I think it was a welcome change of pace so that didn't get cast as a novelty act or anything by radio, and I think "Fly" allowed them to avoid that.
The thing that bugs me the most about the album era is that the (what I thought was) surefire smash "Shut Up and Fish" wound up flopping. I totally thought that one would be huge from the first time I heard it. :'(
Like others have said though, I'm very confident that these girls will be bouncing back with their next lead single so I'm not worried about how this one does. I think the label just tossed this out there because they probably didn't expect SUAF to stall out like it did and they didn't have new music coming anytime soon.
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Post by tinytiff51 on Jul 23, 2016 15:58:28 GMT -5
I, personally, would love to see them release "Smoke" off their first album, but I don't see that happening, unfortunately.
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Post by zaclord π on Jul 23, 2016 20:19:14 GMT -5
I, personally, would love to see them release "Smoke" off their first album, but I don't see that happening, unfortunately. I would have picked "Smoke" over "Fly" as the ballad released from this album. "After the Storm Blows Through" is my favorite though, just not radio friendly.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 20:31:27 GMT -5
I'm probably the only person who wishes that Maddie & Tae decided "Screw it, let's go for the most critically acclaimed song on the album "After The Storm Blows Thru" as we have nothing else to lose" which that song still gives me chills to this day.
When "Sierra" inevitabley falls off the chart (probably sometime in August or September at the latest) I imagine that'll be it for the Start Here era. I would expect a new lead single probably early 2017.
My biggest fear is that these girls are gonna abandon the sound from this album in favor of a more pure pop sound. These girls are by far my favorite newcomers too hit the scene, and I am super excited for new music from these girls.
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Post by dm2081 on Jul 24, 2016 1:02:59 GMT -5
I, personally, would love to see them release "Smoke" off their first album, but I don't see that happening, unfortunately. I would have picked "Smoke" over "Fly" as the ballad released from this album. "After the Storm Blows Through" is my favorite though, just not radio friendly. I'm pretty sure "Smoke" wasnt even considered for second single because A Thousand Horses had their debut single coming out with the exact same name (and it became a big hit). So that probably ruined any chance of "Smoke" getting a release (same thing probably happened to Florida Georgia Line and their version of the song).
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Post by bboat11 on Jul 24, 2016 3:05:27 GMT -5
I would have picked "Smoke" over "Fly" as the ballad released from this album. "After the Storm Blows Through" is my favorite though, just not radio friendly. I'm pretty sure "Smoke" was event considered for second single because A Thousand Horses had their debut single coming out with the exact same name (and it became a big hit). So that probably ruined any chance of "Smoke" getting a release (same thing probably happened to Florida Georgia Line and their version of the song). That is probably very likely. Which is a shame, because imo Maddie & Tae's "Smoke" is 100x better than A Thousand Horses'
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Post by zaclord π on Jul 24, 2016 12:14:45 GMT -5
I would have picked "Smoke" over "Fly" as the ballad released from this album. "After the Storm Blows Through" is my favorite though, just not radio friendly. I'm pretty sure "Smoke" wasnt even considered for second single because A Thousand Horses had their debut single coming out with the exact same name (and it became a big hit). So that probably ruined any chance of "Smoke" getting a release (same thing probably happened to Florida Georgia Line and their version of the song). Oh I'm well aware. I just said that "Smoke" should have been the ballad released from the album, not that it should have been the second single. If it would have been the 3rd or 4th single, then it wouldn't have been an issue being released (especially since I feel like "Smoke" by ATH had no longevity and is mostly forgotten at this point). In my opinion, the era would have been more successful if singles went like this: 01. Girl In A Country Song 02. Shut Up and Fish/Sierra (probably the latter since it was on the EP - but something sassy to continue with the type of song that got them success with GIACS) 03. Waitin' On A Plane/No Place Like You/Right Here, Right Now (something still uptempo and radio friendly, but something to step away from the sass/mean girls theme) 04. Smoke (by this time no one would care that A Thousand Horses had a hit with the same name)
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Post by mus1cr0w on Jul 24, 2016 12:17:57 GMT -5
ATH's Smoke was only a hit because it was selected for OTV. But you are all correct, it killed m&t's Smoke.
This is an example of astounding miscalculation on the label's part.
Such a shame.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2016 15:22:19 GMT -5
Yes, BMLG has recently displayed their radio single ineptitude with flying colors. So much for management skills.
I'm shocked that for the sake of A Thousand Horses (who are appearing to be a one-hit wonder from a song that was just above average), the label sacrificed not only Maddie & Tae's wonderful traditional-yet-modern "Smoke" but also FGL's "Smoke" (which was far superior to "Sun Daze", "Anything Goes" and "Sippin' on Fire" combined).
In regards to Maddie & Tae, I think they will keep a similar sound for album two. These girls seem to know who they are and know the type of music they want to make. I'll be rooting for their radio success 100%.
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Post by dm2081 on Jul 24, 2016 15:55:57 GMT -5
I think people are forgetting that A Thousand Horses version of "Smoke" sold really well, went gold, and tested well. It's not like the song fizzled in the 40's or something. Yeah it had the OTV advantage, but the song did exactly what it was supposed to for those guys - make some buzz and get their album out. It also served as a big introduction to who they are as a group, which Maddie & Tae had already done with "Girl In A Country Song".
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Post by nick64 on Jul 24, 2016 21:08:48 GMT -5
I think A Thousand Horses had very little to do with it simply because Maddie & Tae's "Smoke" wasn't even available yet when A Thousand Horses' song was released. "Smoke" wasn't on their EP and A Thousand Horses peaked before the album came out.
Back to "Sierra", every time I look and see this struggling, it pains me. They should've just sent out "Waitin' On A Plane" :'(
But I agree that they should be okay with their second album. I'm just hoping they don't give in to radio trends for success. Radio might not be crazy about them, but they have fans that LOVE their album and critics and the industry agree. Stay true to yourselves girls, please.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2016 7:56:46 GMT -5
"Sierra" appears to be about done. A lot of it's spin leaders have lowered it's airplay and out of the 20 leaders (since AllAccess only shows the 20 stations that are playing the song most and above 7 times) Maddie & Tae bullet from those 20 stations wind up to a -41. So that probably means a wrap on the Start Here era.
BB Peak #47, MB Peak #47 (I think, that's the peak)
I have no idea how far Maddie & Tae are into recording their sophomore album, but I imagine we'd see a new lead off single late fall early winter.
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Post by carriekins on Jul 31, 2016 8:14:33 GMT -5
I have no idea how far Maddie & Tae are into recording their sophomore album, but I imagine we'd see a new lead off single late fall early winter. I posted in the album thread a couple weeks ago that they're aiming for a Spring/Summer 2017 release. I think that said they'be recorded 7 songs.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2016 8:20:13 GMT -5
I have no idea how far Maddie & Tae are into recording their sophomore album, but I imagine we'd see a new lead off single late fall early winter. I posted in the album thread a couple weeks ago that they're aiming for a Spring/Summer 2017 release. I think that said they've recorded 7 songs. Ok, spring/summer release would probably indicate a late November to early January release, since it'd probably take a while for that lead-off single to become a hit.
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Post by mus1cr0w on Jul 31, 2016 9:51:50 GMT -5
Anyone think they should try "Smoke" or "Storm" or "Downside" as a winter ballad?
Or just lay low after the embarrassing choice of singles?
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