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Post by collinkottke on Oct 4, 2018 10:53:37 GMT -5
Raysnatch is that you? Well, the word "bitchy" wasn't thrown around, so I guess it's just another person who doesn't understand the intentions of this humorous, catchy song. Oh well, more for me to enjoy! It's just their opinion and it's not like their opinion is rooted in negativity and every opinion is welcomed. I don't see what he said as controversial, or bad of what he said. If you disagree fine, but everyone is right in their interpretation of the song within reason and his opinion isn't wrong.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Oct 4, 2018 11:15:47 GMT -5
Raysnatch is that you? Well, the word "bitchy" wasn't thrown around, so I guess it's just another person who doesn't understand the intentions of this humorous, catchy song. Oh well, more for me to enjoy! It's just their opinion and it's not like their opinion is rooted in negativity and every opinion is welcomed. I don't see what he said as controversial, or bad of what he said. If you disagree fine, but everyone is right in their interpretation of the song within reason and his opinion isn't wrong. He never said his opinion is wrong. He never said it was rooted in negativity, controversial, or bad. He just said the reviewer just doesn’t seem to understand the humour of the song. Which I agree with. Just in general too I had some thoughts regarding some of the discussion surrounding the song. This song is being labeled as a “kiss-off” but is it? She’s calls the other person out but never tells them off really. If anything the narrator of the story is the target of the kiss off. She can’t really be cocky either because she’s being self-depreciative, or can you be both at once? 🤔
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Oct 4, 2018 17:52:22 GMT -5
It's just their opinion and it's not like their opinion is rooted in negativity and every opinion is welcomed. I don't see what he said as controversial, or bad of what he said. If you disagree fine, but everyone is right in their interpretation of the song within reason and his opinion isn't wrong. He never said his opinion is wrong. He never said it was rooted in negativity, controversial, or bad. He just said the reviewer just doesn’t seem to understand the humour of the song. Which I agree with. Just in general too I had some thoughts regarding some of the discussion surrounding the song. This song is being labeled as a “kiss-off” but is it? She’s calls the other person out but never tells them off really. If anything the narrator of the story is the target of the kiss off. She can’t really be cocky either because she’s being self-depreciative, or can you be both at once? 🤔 Yeah, I completely agree with you on this. I have SEVERAL complaints about his opinion that I think he has really misinterpreted the song. So here they are :) Where in the lyrics does is say Maren has been dumped? This is definitely not a "whoa is me, I've been dumped" song. The only place I could *possibly* see anyone interpreting being dumped is when she sings "for when you're here then gone again", but in the context of the rest of the song, it definitely seems more of him being unreliable and not there for her all the time or being blown off at worst, not that he keeps dumping her. First of all, lmao, I guarantee this reviewer has no idea what a trap song actually is. If "gambling", "diamonds", "Vegas", "Prada", "Diddy", and "Marilyn" are trap music references then someone better tell trap music that they're doing it wrong... I mean, the song is talking about being rich, so all of those references are pretty valid. If you asked hillbilly rednecks, what it's like to be rich, they're gonna say diamonds and fancy cars and a mansion. And it's not like country songs can only have country references... This song wouldn't pack the same punch if the chorus went like this: Boy I'd be rich, head to toe denim Chevy in the driveway, tugboat in the water Drinking at the cotton gin, high rolling tractoring Me and Dolly playin' "Jolene" on her a mandolin I rest my case. But lastly: THAT IS NOT WHAT THE SONG IS ABOUT. She's not actually getting paid every time he tells her a lie lmao. She's saying IF she were to get money every time she swore him off, picked up when he called, that he made her heart feel cheap, etc. etc. etc. after she trusted him again that she would be RICH because this guy keeps pulling her in and then hurting her all over again and she keeps falling for it. The whole "getting rich" thing is a metaphor for how many times he's fooled her and the spell that he seems to have on her that makes her choose to fall right back in even when she knows it's unhealthy for her. It's a hyperbole, it's a metaphor, it's self-deprecating and humorous and fun. I'm all for people having differing opinions, but when people misinterpret songs this badly, holy wow it is frustrating, lol.
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Post by Naos on Oct 4, 2018 18:19:54 GMT -5
First of all, lmao, I guarantee this reviewer has no idea what a trap song actually is. He has reviewed every song to chart on the Hot 100 for the past couple of years. Pretty sure he knows what a trap song is.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Oct 4, 2018 18:27:24 GMT -5
First of all, lmao, I guarantee this reviewer has no idea what a trap song actually is. He has reviewed every song to chart on the Hot 100 for the past couple of years. Pretty sure he knows what a trap song is. Pretty sure Zac was being flippant here, but the point still is the brands being mentioned were to show what rich people do, as Zac demonstrated with the rewritten lyrics. This Undermines the pint the reviewer was making.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Oct 4, 2018 19:01:11 GMT -5
First of all, lmao, I guarantee this reviewer has no idea what a trap song actually is. He has reviewed every song to chart on the Hot 100 for the past couple of years. Pretty sure he knows what a trap song is. Well based on his review and the follow-up that zaclord 🌈 gave, he seems to not have a firm handle on what "Rich" is actually about, so either way this Spectrum Pulse guy sounds confused.
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Post by raylatch98 on Oct 4, 2018 19:15:33 GMT -5
Even if I had never heard of this song. I would naturally be influenced by a person who listens to every genre of music and probably has a sizable amount of knowledge of each genre. Also every interpretation of the song should be welcomed. I will say saying the guy sounds confused is shaming his opinion as wrong it seems like.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Oct 4, 2018 19:43:23 GMT -5
Even if I had never heard of this song. I would naturally be influenced by a person who listens to every genre of music and probably has a sizable amount of knowledge of each genre. Also every interpretation of the song should be welcomed. I will say saying the guy sounds confused is shaming his opinion as wrong it seems like. Please just stop. It is exhausting to have to try and argue with you. Sure you and this "expert reviewer" (who is actually no more of an expert than anyone here, with the exception of maybe one person I can think of...) can have whatever opinion you want on this song and interpret it however you like. But I can also have the opinion that your opinion is ridiculous and use reason and logic to back up that said opinion. You're very obviously in the minority here, and numerous people have tried to be rational with you, but that obviously has not worked.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Oct 4, 2018 19:49:45 GMT -5
Even if I had never heard of this song. I would naturally be influenced by a person who listens to every genre of music and probably has a sizable amount of knowledge of each genre. Also every interpretation of the song should be welcomed. I will say saying the guy sounds confused is shaming his opinion as wrong it seems like. No every opinion is welcome, he's fully free to dislike the song for whatever reason he has. However misinterpreting the lyrics is not something that's wrong to be pointed out. These lyrics aren't vague and don't actually leave much room for interpretation, they're pretty straight forward. So if he's not understanding the content of the song, he shouldn't be criticizing that aspect of it. A legitimate criticism he may have is that he didn't find the lyrics easy to interpret. Plain and simple the author of the review doesn't understand what the song is about, but he's free to dislike it.
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Post by austin on Oct 5, 2018 8:10:50 GMT -5
How can this be interpreted as a "kiss off" song in any way? She literally says: 'I told myself I wouldn't do this again/but how much you wanna bet I'mma do this again?"...so she um...DIDN'T BREAK UP WITH ANYBODY lol.
The point of the song is he is a constant letdown but she can't let go/loves him/sets herself up for disappointment, but instead of crying about it, pokes fun - AT HERSELF - with references to what she could buy if every disappointment was ka-ching ka-ching money for her.
You definitely don't have to like this song, it does push the pop/rock spectrum pretty far for a country song, and a few of the ritzy references in the chorus are not really references country listeners can relate to, but to misinterpret the song and use that as a reason to hate it is ignorant.
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Post by someguy on Oct 21, 2018 22:14:40 GMT -5
I'm pleasantly surprised at how well this one has done for Maren. It almost feels like her biggest hit, though it has been at radio for quite awhile.
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Post by avalyn on Oct 26, 2018 15:15:51 GMT -5
Maren mentioned in her Twitter q and a this week that the first single from MM2 (nickname for the new album) will be released after the holidays. they dont want to pull the plug on this one too early with how well it's still climbing.
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Post by onebuffalo on Oct 26, 2018 15:27:09 GMT -5
Maren mentioned in her Twitter q and a this week that the first single from MM2 (nickname for the new album) will be released after the holidays. they dont want to pull the plug on this one too early with how well it's still climbing. Good. I can see Rich being Maren Morris' second solo chart topping hit.
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Post by seak05 on Oct 26, 2018 17:56:51 GMT -5
Maren is co-hosting CCUSA Nov 10-11 so look for a push for Rich around then, will coincide with CMA's. Then start the year off with a bang new music, new album & I would think new tour.
As I said for Kelsea (& others), the second album is really key, can you carry over your successes into something sustained for a career.
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Post by raylatch98 on Oct 28, 2018 16:03:08 GMT -5
"Rich" officially becomes Maren Morris second Top 5 with radio as one of her own singles as Maren moves up 2 places to #4 on Mediabase.
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Post by stanches2318 on Oct 29, 2018 2:40:46 GMT -5
Good song. I’m glad it’s charting good, I hope she wins FVOTY at CMAs.
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Post by rsmatto on Oct 29, 2018 11:53:48 GMT -5
Good song. I’m glad it’s charting good, I hope she wins FVOTY at CMAs. Carrie “Stans” heads will explode!
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Post by collinkottke on Oct 29, 2018 11:58:39 GMT -5
Good song. I’m glad it’s charting good, I hope she wins FVOTY at CMAs. Carrie “Stans” heads will explode! I will then officially declare a Heads Exploding Warning for the evening of November 14, 2018.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Oct 29, 2018 20:48:41 GMT -5
Good song. I’m glad it’s charting good, I hope she wins FVOTY at CMAs. Carrie “Stans” heads will explode! This stan will explode with cheers. Maren is the deserving winner of this award this year.
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Post by stanches2318 on Oct 29, 2018 23:36:35 GMT -5
Carrie “Stans” heads will explode! This stan will explode with cheers. Maren is the deserving winner of this award this year. I agree. But it'll probably be Miranda Lambert again. Carrie's album didn't come out until after the nominations, Maren has out charted her on the radio charts. Miranda did nothing and the (Song with Jason doesnt count) Kacey shouldn't even be nominated, and Kelsea would be my number 2 choice.
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Post by matty005 on Oct 29, 2018 23:39:17 GMT -5
This stan will explode with cheers. Maren is the deserving winner of this award this year. I agree. But it'll probably be Miranda Lambert again. Carrie's album didn't come out until after the nominations, Maren has out charted her on the radio charts. Miranda did nothing and the (Song with Jason doesnt count) Kacey shouldn't even be nominated, and Kelsea would be my number 2 choice. Why shouldn't Kacey be nominated? The nominations aren't based on how well singles chart (and off hand, I bet Kacey sold the most albums sales of anyone during the nomination process if you did want to go by #'s).
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Post by collinkottke on Oct 29, 2018 23:42:34 GMT -5
This stan will explode with cheers. Maren is the deserving winner of this award this year. I agree. But it'll probably be Miranda Lambert again. Carrie's album didn't come out until after the nominations, Maren has out charted her on the radio charts. Miranda did nothing and the (Song with Jason doesnt count) Kacey shouldn't even be nominated, and Kelsea would be my number 2 choice. Kacey released one of the best albums of the best albums of the eligibility period, she should definelty be nominated. Miranda and Carrie didn't do all that much during the eligibility period. It should be Maren all the way, but I've been wrong before on guessing CMA Voters' thinking.
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Post by stanches2318 on Oct 29, 2018 23:46:38 GMT -5
I agree. But it'll probably be Miranda Lambert again. Carrie's album didn't come out until after the nominations, Maren has out charted her on the radio charts. Miranda did nothing and the (Song with Jason doesnt count) Kacey shouldn't even be nominated, and Kelsea would be my number 2 choice. Why shouldn't Kacey be nominated? The nominations aren't based on how well singles chart (and off hand, I bet Kacey sold the most albums sales of anyone during the nomination process if you did want to go by #'s). I'm a fan of hers, but she's a forgettable artist. If u go on the street and ask 10 random people name a Kacey Musgraves song, I honestly think majority of those people wont know who she is.
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Post by stanches2318 on Oct 29, 2018 23:51:53 GMT -5
I agree. But it'll probably be Miranda Lambert again. Carrie's album didn't come out until after the nominations, Maren has out charted her on the radio charts. Miranda did nothing and the (Song with Jason doesnt count) Kacey shouldn't even be nominated, and Kelsea would be my number 2 choice. Kacey released one of the best albums of the best albums of the eligibility period, she should definelty be nominated. Miranda and Carrie didn't do all that much during the eligibility period. It should be Maren all the way, but I've been wrong before on guessing CMA Voters' thinking. I wonder how many people will rant and be disappointed if Miranda wins? This is Maren's to win, there should be no second guessing or any question from anybody if they r fair.
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Post by recordyear on Oct 29, 2018 23:58:38 GMT -5
I'm a fan of hers, but she's a forgettable artist. If u go on the street and ask 10 random people name a Kacey Musgraves song, I honestly think majority of those people wont know who she is. Eh, they might not know her more likely because of no presence on radio instead of being forgettable. Her interpretation of small town life in her first two albums is what makes her memorable.
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Post by Troublemaker on Oct 30, 2018 0:00:48 GMT -5
I'm a fan of hers, but she's a forgettable artist. If u go on the street and ask 10 random people name a Kacey Musgraves song, I honestly think majority of those people wont know who she is. These are fighting words. She just has limited radio support compared to the rest but I bet you she’ll sell out more shows than Maren and Kelsea
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Post by stanches2318 on Oct 30, 2018 1:35:20 GMT -5
my post was not made to be mean, cus I love Kacey Musgraves. So I think I'll leave u guys with that.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Oct 30, 2018 10:07:13 GMT -5
my post was not made to be mean Fair enough, but at the very least it was ignorant, because polling people on the street has absolutely 0 to do with who should/shouldn't be nominated for awards (not to mention potentially incorrect considering Kacey has promoted her music in ways that have carved out a "I don't usually like country music, but I love Kacey Musgraves" niche for herself by touring with prominent pop stars and making consistent performances on TV, so to imply she's a virtual unknown is ridiculous). Golden Hour was one of the most critically acclaimed albums of the year and sold very well. She absolutely earned her spot. Honestly, this year any of the newer females (Maren, Kacey, and Kelsea) deserve FVOTY over either of the two veterans (Miranda and Carrie) given that all three of them had much more active years through the entire eligibility period. I'm a big Miranda fan, but I really want to see someone new take the trophy home this time, and I'd be thrilled with any of Maren, Kacey, or Kelsea winning since I love all three. I think Maren Morris has the best combination of mainstream success and critical acclaim to get the edge over the other two.
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Post by raylatch98 on Oct 30, 2018 10:33:59 GMT -5
Eh Carrie deserves female over Kacey and Kelsea. The lack of radio support is at least somewhat a damper since Kacey Musgraves is no Chris Stapleton and I feel like Kelsea Ballerini had a really ho hum 2018.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Oct 30, 2018 10:41:13 GMT -5
Well, since the CMAs are industry voted and not fan voted, people within the industry know Kacey and respect her a lot as an artist. I’d argue that Kacey *should* be the one Maren worries about the most for the Female Vocalist trophy. She’s a global ambassador for country music and arguably has the biggest support worldwide out of all five of the ladies nominated. Golden Hour is about to receive an Album of the Year Grammy nomination in a few weeks based on the critical acclaim its received and how well it’s sold with zero radio support. I wouldn’t count out a Chris Stapleton moment for Kacey at the CMAs winning FVOTY without any radio support.
I still think Maren has a slight edge over Kacey since she had crossover success with The Middle as well as two big radio hits, but I wouldn’t be surprised for a Kacey win in the slightest. The only one who I’d be upset winning would be Miranda though. The other 4 could definitely be argued for a win here
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