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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 7:05:23 GMT -5
Overall the show wasn't that good. Most of the wins were baffling, and not in a good way. And, the ACM continues to perpetuate the sexism of the industry. For the last five years the ACMs have not awarded a solo female artist for a major award (EOTY, FVOTY, Album, Song, Single) not named Miranda, with one exception where Kacey won album in 2013, I believe. This, to me, sends a message that they don't think women are worth awarding and have locked onto a token woman to award, to the point of over awarding. The ACMs, and to almost the same extent the CMAs, have followed radio's lead in not believing in the value of women in country music. Only, the scary thing is, radio is budging a little bit. Not much but a little. And, did they get rid of the overall New Artist award? They got rid of that last year I believe as I believe Old Dominion and Kelsea Ballerini won for New Group and New Female respectively. They probably just wanted more performances
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 7:15:09 GMT -5
Overall the show wasn't that good. Most of the wins were baffling, and not in a good way. And, the ACM continues to perpetuate the sexism of the industry. For the last five years the ACMs have not awarded a solo female artist for a major award (EOTY, FVOTY, Album, Song, Single) not named Miranda, with one exception where Kacey won album in 2013, I believe. This, to me, sends a message that they don't think women are worth awarding and have locked onto a token woman to award, to the point of over awarding. The ACMs, and to almost the same extent the CMAs, have followed radio's lead in not believing in the value of women in country music. Only, the scary thing is, radio is budging a little bit. Not much but a little. And, did they get rid of the overall New Artist award? They got rid of that last year I believe as I believe Old Dominion and Kelsea Ballerini won for New Group and New Female respectively. They probably just wanted more performances They did? Huh, I don't remember that. Honestly, that's kind of dumb. I'd prefer they just do a catch all New Artist award. Do away with the new male, new female, and new group/duo and just nominate everyone in one category.
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Post by edph1 on Apr 3, 2017 8:38:52 GMT -5
Can someone explain how Thomas Rhett can with Single of the Year with Die A Happy Man last year, and then go on to win Song of the Year with the same song this year? It makes no sense whatsoever....
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Post by travelrocks24 on Apr 3, 2017 9:13:48 GMT -5
Can someone explain how Thomas Rhett can with Single of the Year with Die A Happy Man last year, and then go on to win Song of the Year with the same song this year? It makes no sense whatsoever.... acmcountrycom.s3.amazonaws.com/2017AwardsVotingCriteria1.pdfSINGLE RECORD OF THE YEAR This award is presented to the artist(s), producer(s) and record company of an outstanding country music single record during the prior calendar year of November 26, 2015 to November 23, 2016. The factors to be considered include, but are not limited to, success at radio, record sales, success in digital media and impact of the single record on consumers and the country music industry. The nominees shall be determined by a nomination ballot(s) and are subject to the approval of the Board. The winner shall be determined by a vote of the ACM professional membership. Any single record released and achieving a Top 20 charted position on Billboard’s Country Airplay (BDS) or Country Aircheck (Mediabase) country charts during the eligibility period is eligible. If the single was released prior to the eligibility period, but achieved its highest Top 20 charted position during the eligibility period, it is eligible unless it has appeared on a final ACM ballot in this category. SONG OF THE YEAR This award is presented to the songwriter(s), publisher(s), and artist(s) of an outstanding country music song during the prior calendar year of November 27, 2014 to November 25, 2015. The factors to be considered include, but are not limited to, success at radio, record sales, success in digital media and impact of the song on consumers and the country music industry with emphasis on the creative integrity of the song. A Professional Panel of at least twelve (12), no more than twenty (20), established songwriters, whose members are approved by the ACM officers, will submit a list of at least 10 nominees or 10% of all eligible songs (whichever number is greater) to ACM members classified in the Composer category to select the final five (5) nominees to be placed on the final ballot once approved by the Board. The winner shall be determined by a vote of the ACM professional membership. Any song released reaching its highest charted position on Billboard’s Country Airplay (BDS) or Country Aircheck (Mediabase) country charts, during the eligibility period is eligible. If the song was released prior to the eligibility period, but achieved its highest charted position during the eligibility period, it is eligible, unless it has appeared on a final ACM ballot in this category.
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Post by edph1 on Apr 3, 2017 9:15:36 GMT -5
That makes no sense but ok🤷♂️
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Post by Troublemaker on Apr 3, 2017 9:25:22 GMT -5
Can someone explain how Thomas Rhett can with Single of the Year with Die A Happy Man last year, and then go on to win Song of the Year with the same song this year? It makes no sense whatsoever.... acmcountrycom.s3.amazonaws.com/2017AwardsVotingCriteria1.pdfSONG OF THE YEAR This award is presented to the songwriter(s), publisher(s), and artist(s) of an outstanding country music song during the prior calendar year of November 27, 2014 to November 25, 2015.
If the song was released prior to the eligibility period, but achieved its highest charted position during the eligibility period, it is eligible, unless it has appeared on a final ACM ballot in this category.
The date is an error on their side because going by that date Vice wasn't released, also Die a happy man was definitely submitted the year before. This show NEEDS to be retired ASAP!
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Post by travelrocks24 on Apr 3, 2017 10:24:34 GMT -5
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Post by myeverything on Apr 3, 2017 10:45:30 GMT -5
I'm truthfully still at a loss for words...
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 3, 2017 10:57:36 GMT -5
Can someone explain how Thomas Rhett can with Single of the Year with Die A Happy Man last year, and then go on to win Song of the Year with the same song this year? It makes no sense whatsoever.... This isn't the first time it's happened either. It really is ridiculous, and even if some loophole allows for it, a committee should step in and make an adjustment when it happens. Even worse is that the voters would vote for it to win again. These awards are a joke.
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 3, 2017 10:59:48 GMT -5
Overdue for what? He won last year. the past years before last year I mean To that end Keith Urban would be even more overdue.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 11:02:21 GMT -5
What makes it really stupid is that if "Die A Happy Man" was able to win song of the year and single of the Year in different years, you can't tell me it didn't get a lot of support for both categories the first time around. And if they didnt submit it to both the first time around, it shouldn't be allowed to be submitted again. It's kind of like their very relaxed New Artist rules. Utter stupidity!
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Post by M&TSwiftie on Apr 3, 2017 11:19:27 GMT -5
the past years before last year I mean To that end Keith Urban would be even more overdue. it's sad that Keith won entertainer at the CMAs in 2005, and he doesn't have an acm entertainer still.
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Post by M&TSwiftie on Apr 3, 2017 11:23:41 GMT -5
The acms posted this after Miranda won.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Apr 3, 2017 11:37:43 GMT -5
I still can't believe they gave EOTY to that tub of Lard-ean. He has the stage presence and charisma of the guy in your family who falls asleep on the couch with his pants unbuttoned after Thanksgiving. So overrated. Keith or Carrie should've had that. Hell even Luke Bryan would've made more sense, even though I'm not much for him either.
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Post by 14887fan on Apr 3, 2017 12:22:30 GMT -5
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Post by countrymusicjunkie on Apr 3, 2017 14:59:47 GMT -5
They really need to find new hosts for this, Luke and Dierks are awful. It's impossible to find anyone as good as Brad and Carrie but there has to be somebody better than these two.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Apr 3, 2017 15:23:26 GMT -5
I hope their ratings tank and I hope WME either buys the other talent agencies, or disappears. So tired of the same shit over and over. So fucking sick of it
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Post by onebuffalo on Apr 3, 2017 15:31:19 GMT -5
The A.C.M.s were competing with WrestleMania 33. Anybody have ratings for that? Thanks.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Apr 3, 2017 15:38:17 GMT -5
The A.C.M.s were competing with WrestleMania 33. Anybody have ratings for that? Thanks. Was also opening night for MLB I believe. I saw some social media comments about how people weren't watching because of that.
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Post by d3vin44 on Apr 3, 2017 15:48:01 GMT -5
My Thoughts.... The 3 performances that I remember and loved are Miranda, Lady A, and Keith Urban.
Keith should have probably won Male Vocalist, but I love Thomas Rhett, so I'm good with it.
Miranda's performance was outstanding, but this was the year for Carrie to win. Miranda has it on lock for next year though.
Lady A was so much fun to watch and listen to. I loved this song from the day it was released, hoping this performance gives it the traction it needs to hit #1.
Jason Aldean was the second to last person that should've won for Entertainer. (Only beating out FGL in my book)
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Post by carrieidol1 on Apr 3, 2017 15:54:07 GMT -5
The ACMs and CMAs really need to figure out how to end this voting bloc shit, it's just out of control at this point!! Eight years in a row for Miranda, and likely 9. Something is SO WRONG with that and it makes me soooo upset! Carrie deserved FVOTY far more than Miranda... I honestly just feel bad for Carrie. I know she doesn't do this for awards, but she must feel a little slighted given this has gone on for basically a decade. Carrie works so hard and I'd love to see the industry appreciate that! ... just so upset. Dramatic I know... but ughhhh
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 16:51:08 GMT -5
The ACMs and CMAs really need to figure out how to end this voting bloc s**t, it's just out of control at this point!! Eight years in a row for Miranda, and likely 9. Something is SO WRONG with that and it makes me soooo upset! Carrie deserved FVOTY far more than Miranda... I honestly just feel bad for Carrie. I know she doesn't do this for awards, but she must feel a little slighted given this has gone on for basically a decade. Carrie works so hard and I'd love to see the industry appreciate that! ... just so upset. Dramatic I know... but ughhhh Not dramatic at all. It sucks to be underappreciated. It sucks when you are the one underappreciated, but it really sucks when you see someone else being underappreciated and there's nothing you can do to change it.
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Post by codyj100 on Apr 3, 2017 18:01:08 GMT -5
Hands down, one of the worst country music award shows I have ever seen. Sure, there were standout performances, but between the award winners and teleprompter glitches, it was awful. I've ran the teleprompter before several times on live TV, and it's not that hard to keep it going.
My performance rankings:
23. Florida Georgia Line with The Backstreet Boys - "God, Your Mama, and Me," "Everybody." (I'll admit, "Everybody" is catchy and a guilty pleasure but it just annoyed me. 22. Sam Hunt - "Body Like A Back Road" - Seriously? Ew. 21. Thomas Rhett and Maren Morris - "Crave You" - the song, while not great was better than that performance "Somethin' I'm Good At" - LOVE Brett, but the execution of this performance was messy. 19. Lady Antebellum - "You Look Good" - The song was growing on me, but now...I just can't anymore. 18. Cole Swindell with Dierks Bentley - "Flatliner" - pointless slot-filler performance 17. Kelsea Ballerini - "Yeah Boy" - Over this song. I do like Kelsea, and I appreciate she recreated the video for the performance, but it just did nothing for me. 16. Jason Aldean - "Any Ol' Barstool" - I do like the song, but the performance was bland. 15. Keith Urban - "Blue Ain't Your Color" and "The Fighter" with Carrie Underwood - BAYC is past the point of being overplayed, so the performance was a snoozefest to me. Both Keith and Carrie seemed to really be into the performance, but I am just not a big fan of the song. 14. Brothers Osborne - "It Ain't My Fault" - It seemed like there was too much going on, too many people on stage. Maybe it was too loud in my house, but their voices sounded drowned out by the band. 13. Little Big Town - "Happy People" - Holy wow...there was A LOT of color during this one. I get the point of "Happy" but jeez. I like the song more and more, and their vocals were fine, but to be completely honest...I always look forward to an LBT performance. This one didn't do much for me. 12. Rascal Flatts -"Yours If You Want It" - I would've liked to see a little bit more done here. It just seemed like they stood and sang the song. Gary sounded weak toward the end, especially and while I am glad they got a performance slot to begin with, it just seemed meh to me. 11. Chris Stapleton - "Second One To Know" - I really like the new song, but much like Brothers Osborne Chris' vocal seemed drowned out by his backing band. It definitely was nice to see Chris performing something new. I can't wait for the new album. 10. Jon Pardi - "Dirt On My Boots" - I loved this performance. Jon sounded great. This isn't Jon's fault whatsoever, but the fact that he was given such a short segment was disappointing even though I knew that's how the "New" artist winners would be rolled out. If the song was played to it's full length on the main stage, it could have quite possibly ranked higher for me. 9. Dierks Bentley - "Black" - There wasn't anything that brought Dierks' performance out to "stand-out" level. I thought he did a nice job vocally and gave me hope after Sam's performance. 8. Luke Bryan - "Fast" - I wasn't expecting this performance to rank here. I've heard this song a million times on the radio and just on my phone in general, so I thought hearing it live would make me sick of it. However, Luke sounded great and slowed the pace of the show down. It was a nice treat. 7. ETOY Medley - I thought it was a great idea to open the show with the nominees for the biggest award of the night. My only gripe with this performance is that Carrie did "Church Bells" again, which she performed in full at last years' award show. I thought "Dirty Laundry" would've been a more suitable choice since it closed the Storyteller era. 6. Luke Bryan, Dierks Bentley, and Joe Walsh - A nice tribute performance to Chuck Berry. I found it odd that it was Luke and Dierks and not Stapleton. Just my personal opinion. 5. Old Dominion - "No Such Thing As A Broken Heart" - YAY! I love these guys, and they truly performed. It was a low key setup and the song didn't sound too overbearing. Oh and Shane McAnally's face when they panned to him. It looked like he had teared up watching these guys. It must feels so good to be so involved with a group like Shane has been with Old Dominion and then get to sit back and watch them perform. 4. Maren Morris - "I Could Use A Love Song" - BEAUTIFUL. I wasn't that big a fan of "80's Mercedes" and "My Church" had been overplayed so much. I feel like this is the first time I have been able to truly enjoy Maren. She looked great and was strong vocally. Everyone seemed so proud of her. It was a great thing to see. 3. Miranda Lambert - "Tin Man" - I had trouble ranking my last three. I couldn't decide where this one should go. That aside, HOLY COW! Miranda was INCREDIBLE last night. I cannot even imagine the courage it takes to stand up on stage in a room full of thousands, and millions watching worldwide with just a guitar and your voice. She killed it, and I am so glad the label is sending this out to radio. Hopefully this performance will wake up radio and show them just how good she is. (But, FVOTY again...really?! Argh. Carrie should've taken it home). 2. Reba with Lauren Daigle - "Back To God" - OMG!! Reba's heart was so in this performance. She sounded freaking amazing and Lauren totally added a new dimension to the song. While I do prefer Reba's solo version, Lauren's voice on the song seemed like an appropriate live collaboration. I had tears in my eyes at the end. 1. Tim McGraw and Faith Hill - "Speak To A Girl" - It's so interesting. So many have found this song to be polarizing. I've loved it since it's release, but this performance brought it all to a whole new level. Yes, Faith sounded a bit weak in spots, but she brought it. The two together have such chemistry. (Oh, and Faith jumping at the end was probably the cutest thing I have ever see... "YAY...we did it!")
Where was Brad? This is the second year he hasn't attended, right? Also, I would've MUCH rather seen Lauren Alaina perform "Road Less Travelled" in place of Cole Swindell and Dierks Bentley. Such a shame. Sorry, if a lot of this was mentioned previously...I haven't had time to go back and read other posts. Now, c'mon UMG and MAVERICK let's make some moves to get Shania back out there.
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 3, 2017 18:11:55 GMT -5
The ACMs and CMAs really need to figure out how to end this voting bloc s**t, it's just out of control at this point!! Eight years in a row for Miranda, and likely 9. Something is SO WRONG with that and it makes me soooo upset! Carrie deserved FVOTY far more than Miranda... I honestly just feel bad for Carrie. I know she doesn't do this for awards, but she must feel a little slighted given this has gone on for basically a decade. Carrie works so hard and I'd love to see the industry appreciate that! ... just so upset. Dramatic I know... but ughhhh At least Carrie won the CMA, and she's won some Grammys in that span, too. She also won a lot early on, so don't feel too bad for her. There are so many females releasing quality material that can't even get radio play, much less have a chance to win these awards. They are the ones really losing out due to politics.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Apr 3, 2017 18:17:22 GMT -5
The ACMs and CMAs really need to figure out how to end this voting bloc s**t, it's just out of control at this point!! Eight years in a row for Miranda, and likely 9. Something is SO WRONG with that and it makes me soooo upset! Carrie deserved FVOTY far more than Miranda... I honestly just feel bad for Carrie. I know she doesn't do this for awards, but she must feel a little slighted given this has gone on for basically a decade. Carrie works so hard and I'd love to see the industry appreciate that! ... just so upset. Dramatic I know... but ughhhh At least Carrie won the CMA, and she's won some Grammys in that span, too. She also won a lot early on, so don't feel too bad for her. There are so many females releasing quality material that can't even get radio play, much less have a chance to win these awards. They are the ones really losing out due to politics. Touché. In general there's a huge issue here and it's impacting way too many very deserving artists. Something has got to give.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 19:19:45 GMT -5
At least Carrie won the CMA, and she's won some Grammys in that span, too. She also won a lot early on, so don't feel too bad for her. There are so many females releasing quality material that can't even get radio play, much less have a chance to win these awards. They are the ones really losing out due to politics. Touché. In general there's a huge issue here and it's impacting way too many very deserving artists. Something has got to give. I said it earlier in the thread, I think it is the ACMs perpetuating the sexism of the industry. It seems like they don't value any women enough to reward them, as if acting like there are not enough women to reward, which is just s**t. A case could have been made for 4 of the 5 Female Vocalist nominees, but they ignore it. In the last five years only one solo female artist (not including writers) has won an ACM who wasn't named Miranda (that was Kacey). Honestly, I feel bad for Miranda, she seemed totally uncomfortable accepting Female Vocalist. And at this point I hope no one is angry with her, but at the ACM voters. It is similar to the situation with Adele winning Album of the Year, the backlash wasn't aimed at her, but at the voters. They have to get their s**t together to better represent all the deserving women, many of whom are more deserving than most of the men.
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Post by myeverything on Apr 4, 2017 9:38:43 GMT -5
The acms posted this after Miranda won. I'm assuming y'all are feeling bad for her for real?? There was another picture posted at the same time as whoever was winning (I thought it was for Entertainer, but maybe not) - Anyways, she wasn't even clapping for whoever it was that won..
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Post by carrieidol1 on Apr 4, 2017 10:50:27 GMT -5
The acms posted this after Miranda won. I'm assuming y'all are feeling bad for her for real?? There was another picture posted at the same time as whoever was winning (I thought it was for Entertainer, but maybe not) - Anyways, she wasn't even clapping for whoever it was that won.. Watch it back, she clapped. And if she didn't I wouldn't have a problem with it. This shit is fixed and I wouldn't clap either, at least not meaningfully.
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