MilesW1998
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Post by MilesW1998 on Aug 8, 2017 9:12:46 GMT -5
Top 20 Overall AI 8/8/17:
1. Despacito 183.905 (-0.342) 2. Wild Thoughts 167.003 (+2.683) 3. There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back 164.426 (+1.672) 4. Believer 152.011 (+0.777) 5. That's What I Like 144.291 (-1.955) 6. Attention 141.911 (+1.918) 7. Stay 133.127 (-1.461) 8. Shape of You 132.023 (-1.047) 9. Something Just Like This 121.512 (-1.099) *** 10. Body Like A Back Road 120.206 (+0.075) 11. Unforgettable 109.043 (+1.012) 12. Now Or Never 101.046 (-2.493) 13. Redbone 97.967 (+0.394) +1 14. It Ain't Me 97.752 (-1.423) -1 15. I'm The One 93.351 (-3.001) 16. Slow Hands 88.152 (+1.724)
17. Say You Won't Let Go 82.252 (-0.636) +1
18. Castle On The Hill 81.710 (-1.583) -1
19. Strip That Down 69.996 (+1.892)
20. Feels 69.373 (+1.373)
Outliers:
47. No Promises 36.966 (+1.163) +2
72. Bodak Yellow 26.623 (+1.548) +3
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Post by Normi on Aug 8, 2017 9:23:20 GMT -5
Wild Thoughts #1 on Radio this or next week? Hopefully that'll help it overtake Despacito on the Hot 100
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MilesW1998
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Post by MilesW1998 on Aug 8, 2017 9:29:47 GMT -5
I say next week, unless Despacito starts losing radio faster. If it kept losing like 1.5 million to Wild Thoughts gaining 2.5 million everyday.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Aug 9, 2017 8:30:47 GMT -5
From ATRL:
Early predictions
1 Despacito 540 (=) -7%
2 Wild Thoughts 407 (=) +0%
3 Unforgettable 318 (=)
4 Believer 299 (+1)
5 Attention 293 (+2)
6 There's Nothing Holdin Me Back 287 (+2)
7 That's What I Like 277 (-3)
8 I'm The One 264 (-2)
9 Bodak Yellow 258 (+5)
10 Body Like A Back Road 255 (=)
11 Shape Of You 244 (-2)
12 Strip That Down 212 (+4)
13 Slow Hands 209 (+2)
14 Bank Account 207 (+4)
15 Congratulations 207 (-4)
16 Humble 201 (-3)
17 Something Just Like This 195 (=)
18 Redbone 193 (-6)
19 XO Tour Lif3 184 (+1)
20 Feels 183 (+1)
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jayhawk1117
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Aug 9, 2017 9:03:02 GMT -5
So looks like it'll take a 15th week for Despacito to be topped. And looks like Closer is now for sure bigger than shape of you.
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Post by Gary on Aug 9, 2017 9:14:25 GMT -5
Lots of longevity records being challenged in the current top 10
That's What I Like, challenging the Top 5 record held by Shape of You
Shape Of You challenging the top 10 record held by Closer/How Do I Live
Despacito challenging the weeks at #1 record held by One Sweet Day
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 9:38:03 GMT -5
I can only see a #1 debut stopping Despacito from breaking the record
I think though Wild Thoughts could surpass it in a few weeks
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Aug 9, 2017 9:43:54 GMT -5
The new P!nk song is out tomorrow!
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MilesW1998
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Post by MilesW1998 on Aug 9, 2017 10:08:10 GMT -5
Top 20 Overall AI 8/9/17
1. Despacito 183.090 (-0.815)
2. Wild Thoughts 169.256 (+2.253)
3. There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back 165.668 (+1.242)
4. Believer 153.627 (+1.616)
5. Attention 143.633 (+1.722) +1
6. That's What I Like 142.597 (-1.694) -1
7. Stay 132.460 (-0.667)
8. Shape of You 131.403 (-0.620)
9. Something Just Like This 121.093 (-0.419)
10. Body Like A Back Road 120.223 (+0.017)
11. Unforgettable 109.479 (+0.436)
12. Now Or Never 98.863 (-2.183)
13. Redbone 98.311 (+0.344)
14. It Ain't Me 96.812 (-0.940)
15. I'm The One 90.541 (-2.810)
16. Slow Hands 88.607 (+0.455)
17. Say You Won't Let Go 81.703 (-0.549)
18. Castle On The Hill 80.274 (-1.436)
19. Strip That Down 71.030 (+1.034)
20. Feels 70.992 (+1.619)
Outliers:
38. Feel It Still 42.342 (+1.715) +3
47. No Promises 38.026 (+1.060)
49. LOYALTY 36.580 (+1.040) +1
71. 2U 27.486 (-2.782) -9
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Aug 9, 2017 13:58:42 GMT -5
I'm starting to think Wild Thoughts will be able to overtake Despacito in radio in two weeks.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Aug 9, 2017 13:59:27 GMT -5
I'm starting to think Wild Thoughts will be able to overtake Despacito in radio in two weeks.
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Post by .It'sGriffin on Aug 9, 2017 14:01:44 GMT -5
I'm starting to think Wild Thoughts will be able to overtake Despacito in radio in two weeks. I'll say that it'' overtake it next week. |
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Post by NeRD on Aug 9, 2017 14:23:48 GMT -5
I'm starting to think Wild Thoughts will be able to overtake Despacito in radio in two weeks. Radio or Hot 100? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 14:24:56 GMT -5
Im calling it 15 weeks for Desp.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Aug 9, 2017 15:41:34 GMT -5
I'm starting to think Wild Thoughts will be able to overtake Despacito in radio in two weeks. Radio or Hot 100? Radio Songs. That'll leave Digital Song Sales and Streaming to be taken over. Digital Song Sales also seems vulnerable (finally!) and might also be taken over by a song in two weeks. I'm hearing that P!nk will release a new song this Friday, which would be a good candidate other than all those songs on sale. Or perhaps Wild Thoughts would be put on sale on Friday ... All of that, as long as the Despacito remix is not put on sale on Friday. Streaming will definitely be the #1 component that will be hardest to be taken over by another song. |
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Post by Enigma. on Aug 9, 2017 15:46:58 GMT -5
I don't see how Pink being #1 on Digital Songs would help Wild Thoughts
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MilesW1998
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Post by MilesW1998 on Aug 9, 2017 15:48:44 GMT -5
It probably won't, but it will push Despacito out of #1 on digital sales though, and that helps ruin it's run at #1.
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Post by NeRD on Aug 9, 2017 15:51:12 GMT -5
Radio Songs. That'll leave Digital Song Sales and Streaming to be taken over. Digital Song Sales also seems vulnerable (finally!) and might also be taken over by a song in two weeks. I'm hearing that P!nk will release a new song this Friday, which would be a good candidate other than all those songs on sale. Or perhaps Wild Thoughts would be put on sale on Friday ... All of that, as long as the Despacito remix is not put on sale on Friday. Streaming will definitely be the #1 component that will be hardest to be taken over by another song. I'm thinking Wild Thoughts will take over in airplay by Sunday. It's only a little over 10 million behind at this point. As far as the other components, literally all Wild Thoughts has to do is remain stable like it has been, and it'll naturally rise to #1 in a few weeks even without a discount. Despecito has lost a significant amount in sales and streaming on Spotify these last couple weeks, and radio hasn't really dropped it yet. As soon as Z100 and other big stations take it out of power, it'll start losing 60+ points going into it's 15th week, possibly falling short of the record all together. |
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Post by flextamcsignals on Aug 9, 2017 15:57:07 GMT -5
From ATRL: Early predictions 1 Despacito 540 (=) -7% 2 Wild Thoughts 407 (=) +0% 3 Unforgettable 318 (=) 4 Believer 299 (+1) 5 Attention 293 (+2) 6 There's Nothing Holdin Me Back 287 (+2) 7 That's What I Like 277 (-3) 8 I'm The One 264 (-2) 9 Bodak Yellow 258 (+5) 10 Body Like A Back Road 255 (=) 11 Shape Of You 244 (-2) 12 Strip That Down 212 (+4) 13 Slow Hands 209 (+2) 14 Bank Account 207 (+4) 15 Congratulations 207 (-4) 16 Humble 201 (-3) 17 Something Just Like This 195 (=) 18 Redbone 193 (-6) 19 XO Tour Lif3 184 (+1) 20 Feels 183 (+1) No way Redbone drops 6 spots. |
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Aug 9, 2017 15:57:30 GMT -5
It probably won't, but it will push Despacito out of #1 on digital sales though, and that helps ruin it's run at #1. How? It'll still have pretty much the same amount of sales |
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Post by koreanjesus on Aug 9, 2017 16:43:29 GMT -5
It probably won't, but it will push Despacito out of #1 on digital sales though, and that helps ruin it's run at #1. Even if it went to #1000 on sales it wouldn't help wild thoughts at all unless wild thoughts had more sales. |
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Post by Zach on Aug 9, 2017 21:48:34 GMT -5
I have a question. Is Youtube included in on-demand streaming for Billboard's charts? What about for RIAA certifications?
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Post by koreanjesus on Aug 9, 2017 21:52:45 GMT -5
I have a question. Is Youtube included in on-demand streaming for Billboard's charts? What about for RIAA certifications? If I'm not mistaken OD streaming is Spotify/AM/Tidal and youtube is done a different metric. The entirety of streaming is calculated at 1/1600, though. In regards to RIAA, I do not believe youtube views contribute to their certifications |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Aug 9, 2017 22:30:16 GMT -5
I don't see how Pink being #1 on Digital Songs would help Wild Thoughts Basically, my point is that as long as Despacito is #1 in all 3 Hot 100 chart components, no other song will have a chance to take away #1 from it, regardless of which particular song that might be. Thing is, once it loses #1 in any of those components, it'll be hard for it to reclaim it in future weeks. Whether that's Wild Thoughts, the P!nk song or another one taking over is another discussion to be had. |
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Post by koreanjesus on Aug 9, 2017 22:33:41 GMT -5
I don't see how Pink being #1 on Digital Songs would help Wild Thoughts Basically, my point is that as long as Despacito is #1 in all 3 Hot 100 chart components, no other song will have a chance to take away #1 from it, regardless of which particular song that might be. Thing is, once it loses #1 in any of those components, it'll be hard for it to reclaim it in future weeks. Whether that's Wild Thoughts, the P!nk song or another one taking over is another discussion to be had. except that that is not how the chart is tabulated. It is done using raw points, and not relative success in each category, which is why a song which is not number one in any category can become number one (See: TWIL), if the songs that are number one in one category are abysmal in others. |
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Post by fhas on Aug 10, 2017 8:11:38 GMT -5
So looks like it'll take a 15th week for Despacito to be topped. And looks like Closer is now for sure bigger than shape of you.  |
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Post by renfield75 on Aug 10, 2017 9:12:54 GMT -5
I heard Pink's new song this morning...it's a fine song but I don't see it challenging for #1. It just doesn't sound like a number one song in 2017 (unless we're talking about the Hot AC chart).
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Aug 10, 2017 9:28:29 GMT -5
^I don't think any of us expected it to debut at #1.
I posted about it because the Hot 100 needs a new hit single. Everything released lately has been middling.
"Wild Thoughts" was the last Top 10 debut 7 weeks ago.
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Post by MilesW1998 on Aug 10, 2017 9:37:03 GMT -5
Top 20 Overall AI 8/10/17
1. Despacito 182.168 (-0.922) 2. Wild Thoughts 170.889 (+1.633) 3. There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back 166.360 (+0.692) 4. Believer 155.071 (+1.444) 5. Attention 145.589 (+1.956) 6. That's What I Like 140.276 (-2.321) 7. Stay 131.281 (-1.179) 8. Shape of You 130.821 (-0.582) 9. Body Like A Back Road 120.568 (+0.345) +1 10. Something Just Like This 119.986 (-1.107) -1 11. Unforgettable 110.110 (+0.631) 12. Redbone 98.173 (-0.138) +1 13. Now Or Never 96.134 (-2.729) -1 14. It Ain't Me 95.446 (-1.366)*** 15. Slow Hands 89.336 (+0.729) +1 16. I'm The One 88.207 (-2.334) -1
17. Say You Won't Let Go 81.132 (-0.571) 18. Castle On The Hill 79.083 (-1.191) 19. Feels 72.225 (+1.233) +1 20. Strip That Down 71.749 (+0.719) -1
Outliers:
33. Issues 47.712 (-1.138) -1 34. Feel It Still 44.642 (+2.300) +4 63. Bodak Yellow 30.376 (+1.771)
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Post by renfield75 on Aug 10, 2017 9:50:44 GMT -5
^I don't think any of us expected it to debut at #1. I posted about it because the Hot 100 needs a new hit single. Everything released lately has been middling. "Wild Thoughts" was the last Top 10 debut 7 weeks ago. I've seen some people post that they thought it had a shot. I think there some who are just desperate for anything to knock "Despacito" out. |
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