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Post by Golden Bluebird on Aug 15, 2017 9:30:04 GMT -5
kworb.net/airadio/Overall AI (2017/08/15) - Top 201. Luis Fonsi & Daddy Yankee ft. Justin Bieber - Despacito (173.802) (-1.928) (=) 2. DJ Khaled ft. Rihanna & Bryson Tiller - Wild Thoughts (173.562) (+0.745) (=) 3. Shawn Mendes - There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back (167.160) (-0.034) (=) 4. Imagine Dragons - Believer (159.419) (+0.863) (=) 5. Charlie Puth - Attention (156.543) (+2.534) (=) 6. Bruno Mars - That's What I Like (133.582) (-1.118) (=) 7. Ed Sheeran - Shape of You (128.454) (-0.623) (=) 8. Zedd & Alessia Cara - Stay (126.456) (-1.446) (=) 9. Sam Hunt - Body Like a Back Road (119.377) (+0.316) (=) 10. The Chainsmokers & Coldplay - Something Just Like This (114.168) (-0.571) (=) 11. French Montana ft. Swae Lee - Unforgettable (107.669) (+0.131) (=) *** 12. Childish Gambino - Redbone (97.641) (-1.134) (=) 13. Niall Horan - Slow Hands (90.982) (+0.458) (=) 14. Kygo & Selena Gomez - It Ain't Me (88.427) (-0.888) (=) 15. Halsey - Now or Never (85.295) (-1.433) (=) 16. James Arthur - Say You Won't Let Go (79.289) (-0.227) (=) 17. Liam Payne ft. Quavo - Strip That Down (77.442) (+1.176) (+2) 18. DJ Khaled ft. Justin Bieber, Quavo, Chance the Rapper, & Lil Wayne - I'm the One (76.840) (-2.312) (-1) *** 19. Ed Sheeran - Castle on the Hill (76.204) (-0.504) (-1) 20. Calvin Harris ft. Pharrell Williams, Katy Perry, & Big Sean - Feels (74.635) (+0.852) (=) Others: 30. Portugal. The Man - Feel It Still (53.549) (+2.048) (=) 44. Cardi B - Bodak Yellow (39.614) (+2.086) (+6) 56. Pink - What About Us (35.802) (+4.226) (+5)
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Post by NeRD on Aug 15, 2017 9:53:19 GMT -5
Things are getting interesting.
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Post by mcsteamy on Aug 15, 2017 11:09:19 GMT -5
Things are getting interesting. No they're not. Despacito still has the upper hand. |
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Post by NeRD on Aug 15, 2017 11:12:06 GMT -5
Things are getting interesting. No they're not. Despacito still has the upper hand. Didn't I tell you my thoughts on what you have to say before? |
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Post by jebsib on Aug 15, 2017 11:44:36 GMT -5
Worst possible outcome in my opinion is if Despacito gets to 16 weeks and no further.
Nothing more unclear than 2 songs sharing (waring?) the title of "Number One Songs of All Time".
It will then take months, years or possibly decades to get a tie breaker.
I hated that 15 month period when the #1 song was either Whitney's IWALY or Boyz II Men's IMLTY.
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Post by Gary on Aug 15, 2017 11:46:49 GMT -5
The longest stay at #1 does not necessarily make it the #1 song of all time
And regarding how long it will take to get another challenger for this 16 week thing, my guess is 6-12 months maybe sooner
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Post by .It'sGriffin on Aug 15, 2017 11:56:58 GMT -5
Things are getting interesting. No they're not. Despacito still has the upper hand. This is most likely the last week in which it'll lead in sales and airplay. And maybe the #WildThoughtsChallenge will help it be dethroned on streaming, too? |
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Post by Gary on Aug 15, 2017 11:58:31 GMT -5
No they're not. Despacito still has the upper hand. This is most likely the last week in which it'll lead in sales and airplay. And maybe the #WildThoughtsChallenge will help it be dethroned on streaming, too? Despacito has the lead in sales and streaming only. Wild Thoughts is already #1 airplay |
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Post by jebsib on Aug 15, 2017 12:21:25 GMT -5
^^^ Gary, I understand that.
But perception is often reality, and to the masses who don't know of or pay attention to Billboard's recent "Hot 100 song of All time" chart (Twist #1), the media attention that swirls around "weeks at #1" tends to produce a 'biggest song of all time' perception'. The coverage will be spectacular.
Do you think having waited 20 years for a 16 weeker, we may only wait a few more months for another due to Streaming and dipping sales? I don't sense an airplay slow down like in the mid 90s.
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Post by badrobot on Aug 15, 2017 12:30:41 GMT -5
I realize this is *completely* subjective, but I view the two Boyz II Men songs on the 14+ list (IMLTY & OSD) to be the least memorable of the bunch, so personally I'd be pretty happy if Despacito knocked them all off. It also feels like a pretty good snapshot in time of 2017 -- Bieber is huge, and Spanish language hits have gone from novelty (Macarena) to something more likely to break through.
I do think Wild Thoughts is unlikely to be the one to dethrone. I think this will end up on the list of big #2 hits that got blocked by massive #1s. Reminds me a bit of when it seemed like Mariah would replace herself at #1 with Shake It Off and then out of the blue came Gold Digger, while Shake It Off remained #2.
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Post by Gary on Aug 15, 2017 12:38:31 GMT -5
The frequency of the 10 week plus songs has only increased the last several years,
1958-1992: 2
1990's: 11
2000-2004: 6
2005-2009: 6
2010-2014: 3
2015-2017: 7
In the modern era prior to the streaming takeover, we always seemed to average about 1 song per year or a little higher. Since streaming took off, that number has jumped to 2 or 3 a year (The 7 songs from Uptown Funk on account for 84 weeks out of the 137 that have elapsed since week 1 of Uptown funk)
Only a matter of time before the next challenger. Eventually something will hit 17. If this one doesn't the next challenger is just around the corner
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Post by allow that on Aug 15, 2017 12:43:12 GMT -5
Rihanna and DJ Khaled are offering prize money to fans who create the best 60 second "Wild Thoughts" videos. (Too bad no one told them that Instagram views don't count).
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Post by NeRD on Aug 15, 2017 12:53:09 GMT -5
Rihanna and DJ Khaled are offering prize money to fans who create the best 60 second "Wild Thoughts" videos. (Too bad no one told them that Instagram views don't count). They have to upload the videos on YouTube. |
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Post by Heartless Angel on Aug 15, 2017 13:15:29 GMT -5
How will these fan made videos help Wild Thought's streaming numbers? (asking innocently)
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Post by NeRD on Aug 15, 2017 13:44:27 GMT -5
How will these fan made videos help Wild Thought's streaming numbers? (asking innocently) If they're at least .30 seconds in length and play the song (uploaded on YouTube) it will count toward streaming. Can't remember if it has to be listed under the music category or not. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 13:51:00 GMT -5
A few songs now just seem to have more longetivity at the top than ever. Not a big deal anymore that SOY could get 32 weeks at top 10. Despacito might be first song to spend 52+ weeks too.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Aug 15, 2017 14:03:57 GMT -5
^Actually, Uptown Funk! already beat the 52 week recurrent rule. Whoever is next would be second.
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Post by inverse on Aug 15, 2017 14:06:56 GMT -5
^ Uptown Funk got 56 and if the 52 week rule were active at the time Radioactive would have got 71.
So I have a bold prediction. Wild thoughts will hit number 1 for 1 week but won't immediately replace Despacito. This has happened with the last two huge number 1's, first Starboy looked like it would get stuck at number 2 behind Closer, then another song hit number 1, then Starboy shot up to number 1 randomly. Then That's What I Like looked like it would get stuck at number 2 behind Shape Of You, then another song hit number 1, then it popped up to 1 for a week as well. So that's what I think is gonna happen here. Not sure what the Despacito killer will be, maybe Friends by Bieber will debut at number 1 for a week then fall and be replaced by Wild Thoughts or maybe it will be Taylor Swift, who knows.
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Post by Gary on Aug 15, 2017 14:10:39 GMT -5
^Actually, Uptown Funk! already beat the 52 week recurrent rule. Whoever is next would be second. Well yes, it got three weeks after the recurrent rule was implemented. Longest stays on the Hot 100 - since 2016 56 Uptown Funk!, Mark Ronson Featuring Bruno Mars 52 Trap Queen, Fetty Wap 52 See You Again, Wiz Khalifa Featuring Charlie Puth 52 Stitches, Shawn Mendes 52 Stressed Out, twenty one pilots 52 Cheap Thrills, Sia Featuring Sean Paul 52 Don't Let Me Down, The Chainsmokers Featuring Daya 52 Can't Stop The Feeling!, Justin Timberlake 52 Closer, The Chainsmokers Featuring Halsey |
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Post by mcsteamy on Aug 15, 2017 14:36:45 GMT -5
Rihanna and DJ Khaled are offering prize money to fans who create the best 60 second "Wild Thoughts" videos. (Too bad no one told them that Instagram views don't count). They have to upload the videos on YouTube. So how many videos are you uploading? |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Aug 15, 2017 17:32:55 GMT -5
simmnfierzig at ATRL:
Early predictions
#3-#6 is pretty open
1 Despacito 564 (=) -1%
2 Wild Thoughts 462 (=) +18%
3 Bodak Yellow 309 (+5)
4 Believer 306 (=)
5 Unforgettable 306 (-2)
6 Attention 304 (-1)
7 There's Nothing Holdin Me Back 271 (-1)
8 That's What I Like 245 (-1)
9 Body Like A Back Road 237 (+2)
10 Shape Of You 235 (-1)
11 I'm The One 228 (-1)
12 Strip That Down 222 (+3)
13 Bank Account 210 (-1)
14 Congratulations 208 (=)
15 Slow Hands 206 (+2)
16 Redbone 200 (-3)
17 Humble 198 (-1)
18 Praying 192 (+6)
19 Feels 187 (+2)
20 Something Just Like This 181 (-1)
22 Mi Gente 164 (+1)
24 Rake It Up 159 (-2)
25 Feel It Still 158 (+5)
26 Sorry Not Sorry 151 (+2)
30 What About Us 135 (+52) (my goodness is the streaming abysmal)
35 Love Galore 114 (=)
36 Versace On The Floor 114 (+7)
40 No Promises 99 (+2)
46 Fetish 88 (+1)
79 New Rules 50 (+4)
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Post by imbondz on Aug 15, 2017 19:19:45 GMT -5
I'm definitely not wanting Despacito to break the record. Tie it would be fine. I'm thinking a 20 week #1 is right around the corner tho.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 19:45:31 GMT -5
Wonder if the new version of Bodak Yellow will give a boost to be ahead of Despacito next week - I definitely prefer that over wild Thoughts
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Post by kcdawg13 on Aug 15, 2017 20:00:03 GMT -5
You sure Pink is gonna only jump to #30? It has extremely good sales and pretty decent airplay that compensate for it's weak streaming, I see going a lot higher. Maybe even Top 10 honestly. |
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Aug 15, 2017 20:10:12 GMT -5
You sure Pink is gonna only jump to #30? It has extremely good sales and pretty decent airplay that compensate for it's weak streaming, I see going a lot higher. Maybe even Top 10 honestly. being good at the two lesser parts of the formula doesn't matter when you're shit at the most important part |
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Post by kcdawg13 on Aug 15, 2017 20:13:44 GMT -5
You sure Pink is gonna only jump to #30? It has extremely good sales and pretty decent airplay that compensate for it's weak streaming, I see going a lot higher. Maybe even Top 10 honestly. being good at the two lesser parts of the formula doesn't matter when you're s**t at the most important part Oh yeah, forgot streaming holds the most weight on the Hot 100. Which IMO is the most bullshit thing ever, but whatever. |
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Post by Kris on Aug 15, 2017 20:47:37 GMT -5
^Actually, Uptown Funk! already beat the 52 week recurrent rule. Whoever is next would be second. Well yes, it got three weeks after the recurrent rule was implemented. Longest stays on the Hot 100 - since 2016 Was Shut up and Dance not on for 52 (53 including its first visit? edit: oh thought it said 2015 #oops |
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Post by forg on Aug 15, 2017 21:07:36 GMT -5
The Wild Thoughts challenge contest on YouTube. That's kind brilliant if it actually works
The music video boosted Versace on the Floor, too bad its Spotify streaming still sucks and stalling in airplay.
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Post by Agent Yoncé on Aug 15, 2017 21:44:08 GMT -5
How many weeks has 'Wild Thoughts' been stuck at #2?
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Post by Gary on Aug 15, 2017 22:17:35 GMT -5
How many weeks has 'Wild Thoughts' been stuck at #2? 5 |
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