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Post by rainie on Oct 10, 2017 13:48:25 GMT -5
Also Fig your dream format was pretty much what Hot AC was before it became a second Pop At least based off the way I understand it, HAC played a lot more adult contemporary and their demographic was much older then the format I was proposing. I don't know if I can imagine HAC at any time playing Melanie Martinez or Jon Bellion for being too "edgy" -- at the same time this would never be caught dead playing Train or Goo Goo Dolls.
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Post by Green Baron on Oct 10, 2017 15:25:51 GMT -5
Also Fig your dream format was pretty much what Hot AC was before it became a second Pop At least based off the way I understand it, HAC played a lot more adult contemporary and their demographic was much older then the format I was proposing. I don't know if I can imagine HAC at any time playing Melanie Martinez or Jon Bellion for being too "edgy" -- at the same time this would never be caught dead playing Train or Goo Goo Dolls. I was just referring to them playing things that had some Alt elements to it but were too pop for the format, like The Fray and Lifehouse
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Post by rainie on Oct 10, 2017 16:52:03 GMT -5
At least based off the way I understand it, HAC played a lot more adult contemporary and their demographic was much older then the format I was proposing. I don't know if I can imagine HAC at any time playing Melanie Martinez or Jon Bellion for being too "edgy" -- at the same time this would never be caught dead playing Train or Goo Goo Dolls. I was just referring to them playing things that had some Alt elements to it but were too pop for the format, like The Fray and Lifehouse That's fair, but they would play completely different types of music.
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Post by Green Baron on Oct 10, 2017 17:00:25 GMT -5
This is probably the best I've heard from these dudes - "Weak" and "Drama" are awful, even more awful than this one
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Oct 15, 2017 5:13:05 GMT -5
Top 30 on Alternative:
43 30 AJR Sober Up 333 219 114 1.688
I like how Mediabase isn't crediting Rivers lol.
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Post by Green Baron on Oct 15, 2017 10:38:49 GMT -5
HOW TF DID THIS GET TOP 30 SO FAST
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Post by wheatsquares33 on Oct 15, 2017 11:38:53 GMT -5
This has grown on me somewhat. It's corny folk hop but it's catchy.
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Post by rainie on Oct 15, 2017 13:37:17 GMT -5
This has grown on me somewhat. It's corny folk hop but it's catchy. ...how is this at all folk hop-y
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Post by wheatsquares33 on Oct 15, 2017 13:56:15 GMT -5
This has grown on me somewhat. It's corny folk hop but it's catchy. ...how is this at all folk hop-y Maybe folk hop isn't the right term, but doesn't sound out of place between Judah and the Lion and X Ambassadors. It sounds in that same realm to me, especially with the chorus.
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Oct 15, 2017 21:30:09 GMT -5
...how is this at all folk hop-y Maybe folk hop isn't the right term, but doesn't sound out of place between Judah and the Lion and X Ambassadors. It sounds in that same realm to me, especially with the chorus. You are right. That is the reason I wish I could wish this song away. Question? Did Rivers Cuomo suffer a musical breakdown? He is featured in another song with New Politics album that is just as shitty as this.
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Post by American Idiot on Oct 15, 2017 21:38:36 GMT -5
I only heard this song once prior to today and if you see my post on Page 1, I didn't like a second of it. However, I did a lot of driving around town today had on WSFS where it came on twice. I have to say when you're not paying close attention to the lyrics and more so at idiot South Florida drivers cutting you off, the song isn't half horrible.
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Post by Walking Contradiction on Oct 16, 2017 13:37:29 GMT -5
Imo many of the issues surrounding borderline alternative artists smashing here would be solved by creating a new format that's somewhat of a cross between CHR, HAC, and Alt and plays popular artists that fall between the three. This would provide a more stable home for these guys, Halsey, Troye, Jon Bellion, HAIM, MUNA, Lana Del Rey and others, as well as providing a place for aspiring alt crossovers to be sent to instead of HAC. This sounds kinda like what Mod 102.3 in New Haven, CT is going for.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Nov 5, 2017 5:16:00 GMT -5
Top 20 on Alternative:
25 19 AJR Sober Up 956 683 273 3.068
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Nov 5, 2017 5:59:17 GMT -5
Now I hate it even more.
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Post by Lordef†ones on Nov 5, 2017 9:27:28 GMT -5
I don't even want to touch this song, not only cause of the apparent involvement of Rivers Cuomo but especially cause of the comments surrounding it.
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Post by altguy on Nov 5, 2017 10:27:43 GMT -5
This song is being championed by iHeart radio alt stations. It was added to premium choice/iHeart Custom 3 weeks ago when it was just entering charts. That is unusual for an unproven act at alt. They usually wait till top 15 or so. So - it’s being artificially propped up by iHeart stations who run premium choice overnights and weekends.
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Post by Green Baron on Nov 5, 2017 10:43:02 GMT -5
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Post by Lordef†ones on Nov 5, 2017 10:47:22 GMT -5
I'm sure once I listen to this for the rankdown it will guarantee another spot in my bottom five for Cuomo.
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Post by maine on Nov 5, 2017 11:06:51 GMT -5
There's an All Access ad that says this is iHeartRadio's artist on the rise or something like that. I think this has a deal similar to On the Verge.
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Post by Green Baron on Nov 5, 2017 11:20:22 GMT -5
Well the is moving up faster than SWS
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Post by rainie on Nov 5, 2017 13:09:08 GMT -5
...seriously are we SURE that Legends is actually the OTV song and not this?
Yeah this feels very fishy to me. Still kinda like the song itself tho. 🤷🏻♀️
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Post by wheatsquares33 on Nov 5, 2017 13:14:53 GMT -5
I get why everyone's hard on this song, but it's kind of a guilty pleasure for me. I like the chorus, wouldn't sound out of place in like late 2000s/early 2010s alt.
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Post by maine on Nov 5, 2017 13:24:39 GMT -5
...seriously are we SURE that Legends is actually the OTV song and not this? Yeah this feels very fishy to me. Still kinda like the song itself tho. 🤷🏻♀️ I'm pretty sure "Legends" run for OTV is already over. It was confirmed to be OTV.
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Post by Green Baron on Nov 5, 2017 13:29:01 GMT -5
...seriously are we SURE that Legends is actually the OTV song and not this? Yeah this feels very fishy to me. Still kinda like the song itself tho. 🤷🏻♀️ I'm pretty sure "Legends" run for OTV is already over. It was confirmed to be OTV. 16 16 SLEEPING WITH SIRENS Legends 1120 1086 34 2.754 Hadn't realize its bullet was starting to run out - has to be one of the worst-performing OTV songs in history
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Post by rainie on Nov 5, 2017 13:45:28 GMT -5
And it's not like Legends strikes me as an especially polarizing OTV song or anything either.
I suspect this new deal may have at least partly replaced OTV for a lot of stations or something.
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Post by altguy on Nov 5, 2017 14:48:58 GMT -5
No. Premium choice is different from on the verge. On the verge picks one new or relatively new act they champion with a minimum 150 spin commitment from all iHeart alt stations. Often the picks are political - with a major label that’s come through for iHeart (say - Taylor Swifts label getting her to play iHeart festival...). The top iHeart alt market pds vote on candidate songs. The one with most votes supposedly wins. Premium choice is a generic playlist that many iHeart alt stations (Charlotte, Richmond, DC, Pittsburgh etc) mandatory air midnight - 6 am every day. If you have a mediabase account, type >ih in the search by stations. It will bring up all the custom playlists for all formats. Then you will see who controls the charts
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Post by Green Baron on Nov 5, 2017 14:50:48 GMT -5
I don't think Alternative radio was this corporate-driven in the 2000s - say what you want about the song quality, but there was none of this On the Verge label interference and "premium picks", correct me if I'm wrong
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Post by Naos on Nov 5, 2017 15:06:52 GMT -5
AJR? If I remember correctly, their album sucked... bad. Can we not support this?
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Post by trustypepper on Nov 5, 2017 15:07:21 GMT -5
I don’t think anything was as corporate-driven in the 2000s as it is today tbh.
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Post by rainie on Nov 5, 2017 20:50:37 GMT -5
I listened to part of AJR's album and I actually don't think it was that bad, though there were some pretty stupid lyrics in there. Weak, the CHR single, is kind of a outlier soundwise, but this song is much more representative. I kind of liked The Good Part, which I think would make a good second single, though it's even poppier then this, and Netflix Trip isn't bad if you can get past a few bad lyrics and how incredibly stupid the song's concept is (it's about comparing the events in the narrator's life to episodes of The Office -- yeah seriously). However, Thirty-Three and Drama's lyrics were too awful to look past, and Bud Like You just sounds like ass. I dunno if I would want to subject myself to the rest of it, and I totally get the thrashing this got by critics, but if you liked this then there's a few other tracks you may like as well.
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