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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Dec 17, 2018 14:23:12 GMT -5
I'm sure this has been asked a million times, so my apologies, but why is radio play tracked up to Sunday but sales and streaming are not. I know that it takes a few more days to tabulate sales, but why not have the tracking week match up 100%. Much like the weird dates they use for the charts, it's a remnant of the old non digital days, when it took a longer time to add up sales. This - and sales/streaming are tied to the international release date/week (Friday - Thursday). Billboard just likes to be cute with radio since it's not tied to release date because it's illogical. With everything available digitally and in real time, theoretically, everything could be tabulated up until hours before the charts are released. It would make sense to have a 3 metrics start/end in same period to provide the most accurate snapshot of that week. I'm a bit surprised that XXX didn't get anything in Top 10. I'm sure a few tracks landed in Top 50.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Dec 17, 2018 14:27:25 GMT -5
LOL even album release didn't bring Xxxtentacion into top ten, his family and record label should let him rest in peace now. Okay let's get this out of the way, X was a piece of shit. However I think he got a lot of it from his mother, knowing that both of them had a rocky relationship and she was barely in his life and had nothing to do with his career, yet now he's dead and she's just getting bank from his records. It's a very shitty situation. Let the dead rest, I don't understand why label's drag these unfinished records out of the vault. There's a reason why songs are cut, artists write hundreds of tracks for a single album but only put like 12 on it. Grabbing tracks that were obviously just ideas and nothing fully realized and attempting to stitch them together for profit is the most evil thing.
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Post by ddlz on Dec 17, 2018 14:30:26 GMT -5
Rounding out the Hot 100's top 10, Maroon 5's former seven-week No. 1 "Girls Like You," featuring Cardi B, returns to the region (11-10). The song logs a 27th week in the top 10, becoming just the 10th single in the chart's 60-year history to reach that marker. Ed Sheeran's "Shape of You" holds the record with 33 weeks in the top 10 in 2017. Disgusting!
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Post by Gary on Dec 17, 2018 14:34:41 GMT -5
Lots of examples of artists music living past them. Some look at it as a way of celebrating the artists life.
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Post by hunterquigley on Dec 17, 2018 14:36:16 GMT -5
With Gucci Mane hitting number eleven with “Wake Up In the Sky” thanks to his album boost, it looks like he will have to settle for another number eleven peak after “I Get The Bag” too, sad
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Post by kcdawg13 on Dec 17, 2018 14:41:05 GMT -5
With Gucci Mane hitting number eleven with “Wake Up In the Sky” thanks to his album boost, it looks like he will have to settle for another number eleven peak after “I Get The Bag” too, sad It'll the second time Bruno Mars has a song reach the Top 20 and not break the Top 10, last time was in 2011 with his feature on Lil Wayne's Mirror (No. 16).
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Dec 17, 2018 14:45:09 GMT -5
I hope Sunflower can reach the top 3 next week
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Post by chartfreak on Dec 17, 2018 14:55:58 GMT -5
Much like the weird dates they use for the charts, it's a remnant of the old non digital days, when it took a longer time to add up sales. This - and sales/streaming are tied to the international release date/week (Friday - Thursday). Billboard just likes to be cute with radio since it's not tied to release date because it's illogical. With everything available digitally and in real time, theoretically, everything could be tabulated up until hours before the charts are released. It would make sense to have a 3 metrics start/end in same period to provide the most accurate snapshot of that week. I'm a bit surprised that XXX didn't get anything in Top 10. I'm sure a few tracks landed in Top 50. Exactly, just track radio from Friday to Thursday also and all 3 metrics are the same. Oh well.
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Post by Caviar on Dec 17, 2018 14:59:16 GMT -5
LOL even album release didn't bring Xxxtentacion into top ten, his family and record label should let him rest in peace now. Okay let's get this out of the way, X was a piece of s**t. However I think he got a lot of it from his mother, knowing that both of them had a rocky relationship and she was barely in his life and had nothing to do with his career, yet now he's dead and she's just getting bank from his records. It's a very s**tty situation. Let the dead rest, I don't understand why label's drag these unfinished records out of the vault. There's a reason why songs are cut, artists write hundreds of tracks for a single album but only put like 12 on it. Grabbing tracks that were obviously just ideas and nothing fully realized and attempting to stitch them together for profit is the most evil thing. Didn't he leave everything to his mother in his will? If all what you say is true then he obviously trusted her.
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Post by jtd Thee Stallion on Dec 17, 2018 15:00:30 GMT -5
With Gucci Mane hitting number eleven with “Wake Up In the Sky” thanks to his album boost, it looks like he will have to settle for another number eleven peak after “I Get The Bag” too, sad They both suck so I ain’t complaining lol
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Post by kierz7 on Dec 17, 2018 16:08:48 GMT -5
LOL even album release didn't bring Xxxtentacion into top ten, his family and record label should let him rest in peace now. Okay let's get this out of the way, X was a piece of s**t. However I think he got a lot of it from his mother, knowing that both of them had a rocky relationship and she was barely in his life and had nothing to do with his career, yet now he's dead and she's just getting bank from his records. It's a very s**tty situation. Let the dead rest, I don't understand why label's drag these unfinished records out of the vault. There's a reason why songs are cut, artists write hundreds of tracks for a single album but only put like 12 on it. Grabbing tracks that were obviously just ideas and nothing fully realized and attempting to stitch them together for profit is the most evil thing. Who gives a sh*t what his Mother; again, his Mother chooses to do with the releasing of his music, and the record label at that also? Everybody knows that the music industry is a business and corporate businesses are money-hungry; the record label want to profit from 'xxx...' just as much as they want his 'fans' to hear his music irrespective of him being dead. How does it affect us? Who actually cares?
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Post by Choco on Dec 17, 2018 16:15:36 GMT -5
I find most of these posthumous releases pretty underwhelming. In the case of MJ for example, a lot of the material is clearly not up to the same standards as his other tracks, which is why they were unreleased. Same for Amy Winehouse's poshumous album.
Though, in the case of XXXtentacruel, I find his earlier stuff equally bad tbh LOL.
I understand the need for money though. MJ has probably made more money post-death than in the last 10 years of his life.
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 17, 2018 16:39:36 GMT -5
I'm sure this has been asked a million times, so my apologies, but why is radio play tracked up to Sunday but sales and streaming are not. I know that it takes a few more days to tabulate sales, but why not have the tracking week match up 100%. You answered your own question. Having said that, with the decline of sales, I'd like to think that sooner than later they will match the chart weeks up.
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Post by kanimal on Dec 17, 2018 16:47:11 GMT -5
Feels like the wrong time to talk about how everything is real-time when they've been late with three consecutive Billboard 200 charts. But I get the general point.
When it comes to aligning the three tracking weeks, note that the radio industry would have to comply (just as the retail industry did when they switched to a Friday-Thursday sales cycle). Promo cycles, playlist strategies, etc are all currently built on the Sunday-Saturday or Monday-Sunday radio tracking weeks.
Also not sure if Mediabase politics would have any role here.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2018 17:38:26 GMT -5
I don't understand why sales n streams are a weekly total and radio is just whatever the order was on that Sunday. It's weird how a song can be one on radio Monday- Friday but cuz a song was just bleary 1 on Sunday it's the overall radio #1
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Post by Zach on Dec 17, 2018 17:57:50 GMT -5
I don't understand why sales n streams are a weekly total and radio is just whatever the order was on that Sunday. It's weird how a song can be one on radio Monday- Friday but cuz a song was just bleary 1 on Sunday it's the overall radio #1 That radio AI total you see is the radio AI over the past seven days. So a song which is #1 on radio on Sunday is the song which reached the biggest audience over the tracking period. It's the same and sales and streams. [And when I say it's the same as sales and streams I mean that the Sunday AI update counts AI for the entirety of the radio tracking period, not that the tracking period for radio is the same as it is for sales/streaming]
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Post by cassiuscasanova on Dec 17, 2018 18:14:27 GMT -5
A year ago today was a good day I see what you did there
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Post by Gary on Dec 17, 2018 18:18:45 GMT -5
A Hot 100 Christmas
12-22 chart --- 12 songs!!!
#42 Feliz Navidad, Jose Feliciano #41 Sleigh Ride, Ronettes #40 Here Comes Santa Claus(Down Santa Claus Lane), Gene Autry #32 Let It Snow, Let It Snow, Let It Snow, Dean Martin #31 Last Christmas, Wham! #27 Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer, Gene Autry #24 The Christmas Song(Merry Christmas To You), Nat King Cole #21 A Holly Jolly Christmas, Burl Ives Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree, Brenda Lee #15 Jingle Bell Rock, Bobby Helms #13 It's The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year, Andy Williams #6 All I Want For Christmas Is You, Mariah Carey
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Post by Gary on Dec 17, 2018 18:20:33 GMT -5
And...Bubbling Under at #2
Cozy Little Christmas, Katy Perry
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Post by rimetm on Dec 17, 2018 18:26:17 GMT -5
The only ones we don’t know about are Rockin’ Around[...] due to that pesky #14 peak and any potential dark horse re-entries that were climbing up Hot Holiday.
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 17, 2018 18:26:52 GMT -5
WTH is that "Gummy Bear Song" that is the most viewed YouTube video for videos before 2010, and more so why does it still get over 800k views a day? A Hot 100 Christmas12-22 chart --- 11 songs!!! #42 Feliz Navidad, Jose Feliciano #41 Sleigh Ride, Ronettes #40 Here Comes Santa Claus(Down Santa Claus Lane), Gene Autry #32 Let It Snow, Let It Snow, Let It Snow, Dean Martin #31 Last Christmas, Wham! #27 Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer, Gene Autry #24 The Christmas Song(Merry Christmas To You), Nat King Cole #21 A Holly Jolly Christmas, Burl Ives #15 Jingle Bell Rock, Bobby Helms #13 It's The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year, Andy Williams #6 All I Want For Christmas Is You, Mariah Carey Look at Mariah not only being the top song, but the only one released in the past 30 years! "Last Christmas" is then the next most recent, but what is the most recent after that one? "Feliz Navidad" is from 1970, so I assume that one.
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Post by Zach on Dec 17, 2018 18:38:13 GMT -5
WTH is that "Gummy Bear Song" that is the most viewed YouTube video for videos before 2010, and more so why does it still get over 800k views a day? All I know is that my friend's daughter could sing the lyrics to the song before she could even form simple coherent sentences. Apparently it's still super popular among kids.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Dec 17, 2018 18:53:09 GMT -5
Look at Mariah not only being the top song, but the only one released in the past 30 years! "Last Christmas" is then the next most recent, but what is the most recent after that one? "Feliz Navidad" is from 1970, so I assume that one. #NOJUSTICE for these four classics from 1970 - 1983 that have never hit H100, which would fill the gap between FN and LC: Merry Christmas, Darling (#1 on holiday chart 1970, 1971 and 1973) Wonderful Christmastime (Billboard Holiday chart ban) Step Into Christmas (#1 on holiday chart in 1973) Christmas Wrapping I do believe the first 3 charted on CashBox or Record World, but I'm not sure.
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Post by g8erboi on Dec 17, 2018 18:54:21 GMT -5
Love seeing the top 2 occupied by pop girls. Refreshing.
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Post by Kris on Dec 17, 2018 19:17:03 GMT -5
Girls Like You now becomes the song with the most weeks in the top 10 in 2018, surpassing God’s plan (26 wks) Wait until Xmas airplay is over and it flies back up the AC chart.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Dec 17, 2018 20:02:29 GMT -5
Girls Like You now becomes the song with the most weeks in the top 10 in 2018, surpassing God’s plan (26 wks) Wait until Xmas airplay is over and it flies back up the AC chart. And don't forget boost from YE Countdowns. Wouldn't be surprised if this gets close to Top 5 again. It's probably the best positioned big hit left in Top 50 to rebound. So many hits got recurrent'd out because of Bombs and Xmas. If ILI hangs on, it should bounce well into Top 25. Otherwise, BN, LD, YB and maybe LL seem most likely to rebound because of YE - though only YB of may get that extra AC bounce.
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Post by renfield75 on Dec 17, 2018 20:34:53 GMT -5
Gene Autry sleighing the charts right now.
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Post by sam8432 on Dec 17, 2018 21:10:36 GMT -5
Third week in a row without a video. Yikes, between that and the 200, Billboard has been out of it lately.
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Post by Gary on Dec 17, 2018 21:16:43 GMT -5
There was really only one week the BB200 was messed up
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Post by aussie1 on Dec 17, 2018 21:37:06 GMT -5
Bruno barley lifted a finger and got an #11 peak with Wake up in the sky. His hit making ability is very underrated.
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