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Post by Mayman on Aug 27, 2019 20:09:14 GMT -5
Hoping "Truth Hurts" hits #1 this week as well as "Good As Hell" finally entering the chart!
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Aug 27, 2019 20:34:03 GMT -5
Truth Hurts for #1!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 20:54:10 GMT -5
You guys know of any artists that were thought of to have been one hit wonders but beat the odds later on?
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Post by tanooki on Aug 27, 2019 20:54:34 GMT -5
You guys know of any artists that were thought of to have been one hit wonders but beat the odds later on? Post Malone lol
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 21:03:02 GMT -5
You guys know of any artists that were thought of to have been one hit wonders but beat the odds later on? Post Malone lol def the best example
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 27, 2019 21:05:27 GMT -5
You guys know of any artists that were thought of to have been one hit wonders but beat the odds later on? Katy Perry Mike Posner Jason Derulo
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Post by wjr15 on Aug 27, 2019 21:10:31 GMT -5
You guys know of any artists that were thought of to have been one hit wonders but beat the odds later on? Billy Ray Cyrus
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Post by lostinhavana on Aug 27, 2019 22:49:23 GMT -5
You guys know of any artists that were thought of to have been one hit wonders but beat the odds later on? . Bastille
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Post by Mauricio on Aug 27, 2019 22:52:42 GMT -5
So you think Taylorβs entire album will debut in the top 50? At least most of it will, and I wouldnβt be surprised if the entire album debuted in the top 50. The streaming numbers are INSANE I donβt think all tracks will debut top 50. βMake upβby Ariana did better on streaming (almost 2x the streams) than some tracks on Lover and it barely was #48 that week
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Post by badrobot on Aug 28, 2019 0:19:09 GMT -5
You guys know of any artists that were thought of to have been one hit wonders but beat the odds later on? Not quite a one-hit wonder but I've always been impressed with how Nelly Furtado was basically a "2-hit" wonder with her first album, second album bombed, and then she came back with Promiscuous and Say It Right. Panic at the Disco also came back in a big way after having only one big hit.
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Post by korbel16 on Aug 28, 2019 0:47:26 GMT -5
Interesting... wow were they wrong... ^
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Post by tanooki on Aug 28, 2019 1:01:41 GMT -5
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 28, 2019 1:05:13 GMT -5
VMAs Effect: iTunes, Apple Music, & Spotify It's been a little over 24 hours since the show ended, let's see how it's affecting things at the moment. Please note that Spotify is a daily chart instead of a continuous rolling chart like iTunes and Apple Music, meaning their charts are slower to reflect promo spots.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Aug 28, 2019 1:25:49 GMT -5
You guys know of any artists that were thought of to have been one hit wonders but beat the odds later on? Drake. Everyone thought Best I Ever Had was a beginner's luck single and that he'd die out after the massive hype behind So Far Gone.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Aug 28, 2019 1:27:51 GMT -5
So you think Taylorβs entire album will debut in the top 50? At least most of it will, and I wouldnβt be surprised if the entire album debuted in the top 50. The streaming numbers are INSANE Insane is a stretch. She might end up not moving more than 200K units in streams. Lover is doing just well enough on streaming platforms. It's not exactly SMASHING.
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 28, 2019 1:28:40 GMT -5
Did I spot Ashlee Simpson stans in there?
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 28, 2019 1:29:28 GMT -5
At least most of it will, and I wouldnβt be surprised if the entire album debuted in the top 50. The streaming numbers are INSANE Insane is a stretch. She might end up not moving more than 200K units in streams. Lover is doing just well enough on streaming platforms. It's not exactly SMASHING. It's doing incredibly numbers for a female pop album. The only other two female pop albums to receive similar numbers have been sweetener and thank u, next.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Aug 28, 2019 1:38:01 GMT -5
Insane is a stretch. She might end up not moving more than 200K units in streams. Lover is doing just well enough on streaming platforms. It's not exactly SMASHING. It's doing incredibly numbers for a female pop album. The only other two female pop albums to receive similar numbers have been sweetener and thank u, next. To be honest, I'm tired of seeing females being put aside to make their achievements seem more noteworthy. We don't do it for men, so why do we do it for women? Amongst ALL artists, the album isn't SMASHING. You don't have to mention Taylor being a female and it being a pop album to magnify the album's performance on streaming platforms. Imagine if we made these distinctions for male rap albums? ''Oh, it's selling INCREDIBLY WELL for an album by a male rapper.'' Ugh. Just stop. I didn't say it was under-performing. I said it was doing just well enough. I didn't know I had to make that statement in the context of albums by female pop stars.
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 28, 2019 1:53:23 GMT -5
It's doing incredibly numbers for a female pop album. The only other two female pop albums to receive similar numbers have been sweetener and thank u, next. To be honest, I'm tired of seeing females being put aside to make their achievements seem more noteworthy. We don't do it for men, so why do we do it for women? Amongst ALL artists, the album isn't SMASHING. You don't have to mention Taylor being a female and it being a pop album to magnify the album's performance on streaming platforms. Imagine if we made these distinctions for male rap albums? ''Oh, it's selling INCREDIBLY WELL for an album by a male rapper.'' Ugh. Just stop. I didn't say it was under-performing. I said it was doing just well enough. I didn't know I had to make that statement in the context of albums by female pop stars. Well this post is infuriating as hell. I don't even know where to begin to explain to you how terrible this opinion is, but I will try. Sexist, much? Because men aren't demeaned for being the "lessor sex" like women are. It's the same reason we would specify why an achievement from a black person is noteworthy. Women have consistently performed worse than men in the music since the dawn of the industry. I--- what? Okay. Actually, it's quite important, for all the same damn reasons above that I already mentioned. Pop music is also not the dominant genre in streaming, which is another factor to consider. Where the fuck have you been for the past several decades? Under a rock. We do do this! I and the other people who understand this basic concept will not stop praising people for their achievements. You can't make us no matter how much you bitch and moan about it. Fucking no one said you were. What? You didn't have to, but you also didn't need to belittle the success of the album because it's not meeting whatever high standards you have. Maybe you should just stop talking about things you clearly have no grasp of? Because you sounded really, really out of touch with this post, dude. I can't even begin to imagine the shit this is about to stir up. My god.
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Post by Enigma. on Aug 28, 2019 1:55:15 GMT -5
You guys know of any artists that were thought of to have been one hit wonders but beat the odds later on? Drake. Everyone thought Best I Ever Had was a beginner's luck single and that he'd die out after the massive hype behind So Far Gone. Although actually thought that he would fade a bit after Jumpman failed to go top ten. I love that you use the phrase "beginner's luck" in the context of music business.
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Post by surfy on Aug 28, 2019 2:12:53 GMT -5
It's doing incredibly numbers for a female pop album. The only other two female pop albums to receive similar numbers have been sweetener and thank u, next. To be honest, I'm tired of seeing females being put aside to make their achievements seem more noteworthy. We don't do it for men, so why do we do it for women? Amongst ALL artists, the album isn't SMASHING. You don't have to mention Taylor being a female and it being a pop album to magnify the album's performance on streaming platforms. Imagine if we made these distinctions for male rap albums? ''Oh, it's selling INCREDIBLY WELL for an album by a male rapper.'' Ugh. Just stop. I didn't say it was under-performing. I said it was doing just well enough. I didn't know I had to make that statement in the context of albums by female pop stars. hop off drake's dick for a second, sis. just say you don't respect women's achievements and go at this point because i've noticed a trend.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Aug 28, 2019 2:14:57 GMT -5
To be honest, I'm tired of seeing females being put aside to make their achievements seem more noteworthy. We don't do it for men, so why do we do it for women? Amongst ALL artists, the album isn't SMASHING. You don't have to mention Taylor being a female and it being a pop album to magnify the album's performance on streaming platforms. Imagine if we made these distinctions for male rap albums? ''Oh, it's selling INCREDIBLY WELL for an album by a male rapper.'' Ugh. Just stop. I didn't say it was under-performing. I said it was doing just well enough. I didn't know I had to make that statement in the context of albums by female pop stars. Well this post is infuriating as hell. I don't even know where to begin to explain to you how terrible this opinion is, but I will try. Sexist, much? Because men aren't demeaned for being the "lessor sex" like women are. It's the same reason we would specify why an achievement from a black person is noteworthy. Women have consistently performed worse than men in the music since the dawn of the industry. I--- what? Okay. Actually, it's quite important, for all the same damn reasons above that I already mentioned. Pop music is also not the dominant genre in streaming, which is another factor to consider. Where the f**k have you been for the past several decades? Under a rock. We do do this! I and the other people who understand this basic concept will not stop praising people for their achievements. You can't make us no matter how much you bitch and moan about it. f**king no one said you were. What? You didn't have to, but you also didn't need to belittle the success of the album because it's not meeting whatever high standards you have. Maybe you should just stop talking about things you clearly have no grasp of? Because you sounded really, really out of touch with this post, dude. I can't even begin to imagine the s**t this is about to stir up. My god. LMAO, of course, now I'm sexist. How am I belittling it's success when it's about to move a million units first week? I WAS SPEAKING TO IT'S PERFORMANCE ON STREAMING PLATFORMS. What the hell is going on here? I said AMONGST all artists, the album isn't smashing on streaming platforms, but sure, misconstrue that sentence to mean an album that's about to move a million units in it's first week isn't performing well. What high standards? ME, THE PERSON WHO HAS SAID COUNTLESS TIMES ON THIS FORUM THAT WE SHOULD ALL LOWER OUR EXPECTATIONS FOR THE COMMERCIAL PERFORMANCE OF ALL MAJOR MAINSTREAM ACTS BECAUSE OF THE CURRENT MUSIC CLIMATE. I'M THE ONE WHO HAS ''HIGH STANDARDS''? Most people predicted lower than 800K SPS for Taylor BECAUSE of the music climate, not because they somehow lost faith in her commercial viability. You're the one who quoted me and went out of your way to make an opinion when I made a statement that was rooted in fact. Aren't there several other albums that have performed way better on streaming platforms in their debut than Lover currently is? So, how was my statement wrong or inaccurate? You quoted me and said it was performing incredibly well for a ''female pop album.'' I said I was tired of those distinctions being made and now you're forcing this silly back and forth.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Aug 28, 2019 2:16:24 GMT -5
To be honest, I'm tired of seeing females being put aside to make their achievements seem more noteworthy. We don't do it for men, so why do we do it for women? Amongst ALL artists, the album isn't SMASHING. You don't have to mention Taylor being a female and it being a pop album to magnify the album's performance on streaming platforms. Imagine if we made these distinctions for male rap albums? ''Oh, it's selling INCREDIBLY WELL for an album by a male rapper.'' Ugh. Just stop. I didn't say it was under-performing. I said it was doing just well enough. I didn't know I had to make that statement in the context of albums by female pop stars. hop off drake's dick for a second, sis. just say you don't respect women's achievements and go at this point because i've noticed a trend. LMAO. I don't even know what to say to this.
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Post by surfy on Aug 28, 2019 2:17:35 GMT -5
hop off drake's dick for a second, sis. just say you don't respect women's achievements and go at this point because i've noticed a trend. LMAO. I don't even know what to say to this. well you didn't say anything, so that in itself says enough
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Post by tanooki on Aug 28, 2019 2:19:09 GMT -5
I'd say Lover is smashing on streaming. It doesn't have to be Scorpion or X's discography after his death to be "smashing" on streaming. It's doing incredibly well, especially for a pop artist nearly 15 years into her career.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Aug 28, 2019 2:20:11 GMT -5
Drake. Everyone thought Best I Ever Had was a beginner's luck single and that he'd die out after the massive hype behind So Far Gone. Although actually thought that he would fade a bit after Jumpman failed to go top ten. I love that you use the phrase "beginner's luck" in the context of music business. A lot of people thought the same about a lot of this decade's biggest acts. That their current success was only just temporary and they'd be gone soon.
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LMAO, of course, now I'm sexist. How am I belittling it's success when it's about to move a million units first week? I WAS SPEAKING TO IT'S PERFORMANCE ON STREAMING PLATFORMS. What the hell is going on here? I said AMONGST all artists, the album isn't smashing on streaming platforms, but sure, misconstrue that sentence to mean an album that's about to move a million units in it's first week isn't performing well. What high standards? ME, THE PERSON WHO HAS SAID COUNTLESS TIMES ON THIS FORUM THAT WE SHOULD ALL LOWER OUR EXPECTATIONS FOR THE COMMERCIAL PERFORMANCE OF ALL MAJOR MAINSTREAM ACTS BECAUSE OF THE CURRENT MUSIC CLIMATE. I'M THE ONE WHO HAS ''HIGH STANDARDS''? Most people predicted lower than 800K SPS for Taylor BECAUSE of the music climate, not because they somehow lost faith in her commercial viability. You're the one who quoted me and went out of your way to make an opinion when I made a statement that was rooted in fact. Aren't there several other albums that have performed way better on streaming platforms in their debut than Lover currently is? So, how was my statement wrong or inaccurate? You quoted me and said it was performing incredibly well for a ''female pop album.'' I said I was tired of those distinctions being made and now you're forcing this silly back and forth. Capitalizing various things and stuff doesn't make your points any stronger. It comes across like you are yelling. And that doesn't make it any more valid. I can bold and CAPITALIZE stuff, hell, I could even make it this big and another color and that doesn't add anything. It's kind of annoying, TBH.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Aug 28, 2019 2:32:42 GMT -5
I'd say Lover is smashing on streaming. It doesn't have to be Scorpion or X's discography after his death to be "smashing" on streaming. It's doing incredibly well, especially for a pop artist nearly 15 years into her career. I apologize. I made the GRAVE MISTAKE of saying it was doing ''well enough on streaming.'' I should have said it's smashing and dominating on streaming for an album made by a female pop artist nearly 15 years into her career who was also first a country artist and who also just left her former label of 13 years. When I said Lover was doing just well enough on streaming, I meant generally, as an album released by a major mainstream artist. I remember saying last week that I don't expect her to have a massive splash on streaming platforms with Lover as she JUST embraced streaming and her fans haven't had the time to fully transition to that form of music consumption yet. I, personally, was never expecting her to thoroughly dominate on streaming, so my statement WASN'T me expressing disappointment or me trying to undermine the album's streaming performance. That's where I was misunderstood and that's what's causing this pointless back and forth. This isn't me taking it out on you. I'm just bewildered that we're even at this point in this silly discussion. This is the SAME WAY people got unnecessarily mad when I said Beyonce's The Gift ''under-performed,'' a statement also rooted in fact, and people wanted to have my head. Someone should please link me to the guideline of what can and can't be said on here.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Aug 28, 2019 2:35:13 GMT -5
LMAO, of course, now I'm sexist. How am I belittling it's success when it's about to move a million units first week? I WAS SPEAKING TO IT'S PERFORMANCE ON STREAMING PLATFORMS. What the hell is going on here? I said AMONGST all artists, the album isn't smashing on streaming platforms, but sure, misconstrue that sentence to mean an album that's about to move a million units in it's first week isn't performing well. What high standards? ME, THE PERSON WHO HAS SAID COUNTLESS TIMES ON THIS FORUM THAT WE SHOULD ALL LOWER OUR EXPECTATIONS FOR THE COMMERCIAL PERFORMANCE OF ALL MAJOR MAINSTREAM ACTS BECAUSE OF THE CURRENT MUSIC CLIMATE. I'M THE ONE WHO HAS ''HIGH STANDARDS''? Most people predicted lower than 800K SPS for Taylor BECAUSE of the music climate, not because they somehow lost faith in her commercial viability. You're the one who quoted me and went out of your way to make an opinion when I made a statement that was rooted in fact. Aren't there several other albums that have performed way better on streaming platforms in their debut than Lover currently is? So, how was my statement wrong or inaccurate? You quoted me and said it was performing incredibly well for a ''female pop album.'' I said I was tired of those distinctions being made and now you're forcing this silly back and forth. Capitalizing various things and stuff doesn't make your points any stronger. It comes across like you are yelling. And that doesn't make it any more valid. I can bold and CAPITALIZE stuff, hell, I could even make it this big and another color and that doesn't add anything. It's kind of annoying, TBH. You should have just kept this quote to yourself. I wasn't speaking to you and just like you said: I CAN AND WILL CAPITALIZE WHATEVER THE HELL I WANT TO CAPITALIZE, WHENEVER I FEEL LIKE IT. SEE? THERE.
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