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Post by iHype. on Nov 6, 2019 1:39:59 GMT -5
I said they were accidentally revealed -- they definitely were, but not that I thought they were fake, unofficial or inaccurate. Just that Billboard revealed them too early. I never contradicted. I think they are official charts that were accidentally revealed. You put air quotes around viewable when simply looking down the thread would've told you they were viewable to many people. We also acknowledged in this same thread the same day of your post, that they had just gotten taken down from viewing. So for you to put 'they were supposedly viewable' as if there is doubt they were actually viewable and we just all decided to make up seeing all of this was unnecessary. Also if they did add a few more weeks that would still mean the chart is over 99% finished for the decade. It practically is official. As stated by someone earlier in the thread, you'd see an album go from #174 to #171 or something but I would be surprised to see any huge changes. Well alright, the thing is maybe I do feel a little left out and disappointed because I might have been a little late to the game and missed the charts after most everyone else saw them, and it all seems so anti-climactic with the way and timing of how they were revealed, I mean we've all been waiting the entire decade for this. I'll say one thing more though and that is how someone else mentioned that the Top Artists list definitely seems like they only included Hot 100 and Billboard 200 points and left out touring and social media (it would perfectly explain how people like Post Malone and Bruno Mars ranked higher than expected), however it seems like they would most probably include the latter two metrics, as they used both for all of the year-ends since 2011 and social media in the weekly Artist charts since 2014, so maybe they will still add those components. I mean, what would be the reasoning for not including them? Perhaps they specifically wanted a weighted point system with a Decade End since it’s comparing changing eras, and they weren’t able to create a fair one with touring/social data? There was a Top Touring Artists chart & Social 50 Decade End chart that was accidentally available too so I do believe they have the data compiled and ready for touring/social media too. IMO knowing they had/have the data for touring/social media compiled — if they wanted to incorporate them on the Decade End then I believe they would’ve y’know? Maybe they even were included, just to a much smaller impact than on Year Ends. Anywho we’ll get explanations and completely final charts in a matter of a few weeks so we’ll just have to wait.
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Post by iHype. on Nov 6, 2019 1:47:58 GMT -5
I will say the top 10 artists of this decade end help up a lot better with their careers through the decade compared to the 2000s top 10.
Every artist except Katy had great success with their last era and still scored some big hits recently.
As for 2000s top 10
Nelly & 50 Cent had already fell off notably by the end of the decade. Destiny’s Child had been disbanded for almost half the decade. Nickelback’s 2008 album sold decently, however all 8 singles missed top 10 at Pop radio & only one went top 10 on Hot 100.
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Post by kierz7 on Nov 6, 2019 4:19:57 GMT -5
I will say the top 10 artists of this decade end help up a lot better with their careers through the decade compared to the 2000s top 10. Every artist except Katy had great success with their last era and still scored some big hits recently. As for 2000s top 10 Nelly & 50 Cent had already fell off notably by the end of the decade. Destiny’s Child had been disbanded for almost half the decade. Nickelback’s 2008 album sold decently, however all 8 singles missed top 10 at Pop radio & only one went top 10 on Hot 100. Well... Rihanna; Bruno Mars; Adele; Justin Bieber literally all had their last biggest hits as lead artists circa. 2015-2017 which, in actuality, is when Nelly, 50 Cent, Nickelback scored their last hits as lead artists also, circa. 2005-2007. The only acts in this Decades top 10 ranking that have garnered thorough hits since 2018 through to 2019 are Drake; Post Malone; Maroon 5; Taylor Swift which is also similar to last decade as Usher, Beyonce, Alicia Keys and Jay-Z scored hits and had big eras between 2008-2009. Katy Perry is in the same league as Destiny’s Child; yes, they disbanded but their last big hits/era was circa. 2004-2005, just like Perry whose last big hits/era was circa. 2014-2015 to which she vastly underperformed with everything thereafter. Very coincidental overall I must say.
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Post by WolfSpear on Nov 6, 2019 8:58:17 GMT -5
Maroon 5 continues to surprise but unless they have a featured guest, I think the end of the line is coming near.
A lot of their songs too similar in style to draw credibility. The last era that stands out is 2012 with ‘Overexposed’. It’s true that they have some good hits since... “Girls Like You” for example... but all I can hear is Adam’s voice through the pitch adjuster and that sums it up. You forget they have a guitar player at times.
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Post by tobichartmaster on Nov 6, 2019 18:19:35 GMT -5
What about artist of the 21st century, combining both charts.
Taylor Swift is the highest placed BB200 artist of the century, closely followed by Eminem. But he is much lower on the h100 chart than her. Drake is 3 spots above Taylor on the all-time hot100, but there is quiet a gap between her and him on the BB200. Usher is ahead of Taylor on the hot100 but not so high on the album site of things Rihanna is well ahead of Taylor on the hot100, but the gap on the album chart seems to be bigger.
From this quick observation the top5 artists of the century would look like:
1. Taylor 2. Drake 3. Rihanna 4. Eminem 5- Usher
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Post by tanooki on Nov 6, 2019 18:21:27 GMT -5
If you combine 00s and 10s, I would personally assume Rihanna would be #1
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Post by kierz7 on Nov 6, 2019 18:59:40 GMT -5
What about artist of the 21st century, combining both charts. Taylor Swift is the highest placed BB200 artist of the century, closely followed by Eminem. But he is much lower on the h100 chart than her. Drake is 3 spots above Taylor on the all-time hot100, but there is quiet a gap between her and him on the BB200. Usher is ahead of Taylor on the hot100 but not so high on the album site of things Rihanna is well ahead of Taylor on the hot100, but the gap on the album chart seems to be bigger. From this quick observation the top5 artists of the century would look like: 1. Taylor 2. Drake 3. Rihanna 4. Eminem 5- Usher Rihanna is: • The biggest Hot 100 act of the 21st Century • The biggest Digital act of the 21st Century • The biggest Radio act of the 21st Century The above are all facts based on her stats. She would be #1 if we combined her points from the 00’s and 10’s. Her BB200 stats. are also very good considering she’s ranked in the 50’s on the All-Time charts. • Taylor Swift would EASILY follow her. • Eminem, Drake, Beyoncé, Usher would come next in varying order.
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Post by kierz7 on Nov 6, 2019 19:10:46 GMT -5
Does anyone know who was at #35 and #44 on the Artists list? Cardi B, Britney Spears & Flo Rida are missing from the top 50 so, presumably, them as they had several years of big success this decade. Other prominent artists who aren’t in the top 50 but could place there: • Kanye West • Pharrell Williams • DJ Khaled • Migos • Lil Wayne • • • And more.
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Post by tobichartmaster on Nov 7, 2019 8:25:17 GMT -5
#35 Cardi B #44 Black Eyed Peas
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Post by iHype. on Nov 13, 2019 13:56:17 GMT -5
The decade-end charts show up in the Chart History directory again, but the peaks now reflect peaks on just weekly charts. Example: www.billboard.com/music/drake/chart-history/3ABShows his entries on the Hot 100 Decade-End, but shows their peaks on the weekly Hot 100.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Nov 13, 2019 13:59:41 GMT -5
Still no Usher's OMG.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Nov 13, 2019 16:17:44 GMT -5
A few more weeks this these charts get released officially. Can't wait.
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Post by Lukas on Nov 13, 2019 17:53:41 GMT -5
I think this is an indication that they'll release the charts soon. I don't see why they'd put them up there for a second time otherwise.
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Post by tanooki on Nov 13, 2019 18:57:32 GMT -5
I have a heavy feeling that they will be released next week, alongside the GOAT and year end list (Dec 1 - Nov. 23 scenario)
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Post by thegreatdivine on Nov 13, 2019 20:07:24 GMT -5
The decade-end charts show up in the Chart History directory again, but the peaks now reflect peaks on just weekly charts. Example: www.billboard.com/music/drake/chart-history/3ABShows his entries on the Hot 100 Decade-End, but shows their peaks on the weekly Hot 100. They've taken it down again.
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Post by iHype. on Nov 13, 2019 20:23:20 GMT -5
The decade-end charts show up in the Chart History directory again, but the peaks now reflect peaks on just weekly charts. Example: www.billboard.com/music/drake/chart-history/3ABShows his entries on the Hot 100 Decade-End, but shows their peaks on the weekly Hot 100. They've taken it down again. That link is still working for me. The only charts not showing on the site are the Top Artists charts (Top Artists of 2010s, Top Touring Artists of 2010s, Social 50 Artists of 2010s, etc). They haven't made those available again yet.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Nov 13, 2019 20:30:54 GMT -5
They've taken it down again. That link is still working for me. The only charts not showing on the site are the Top Artists charts (Top Artists of 2010s, Top Touring Artists of 2010s, Social 50 Artists of 2010s, etc). They haven't made those available again yet. That's what I meant to say. The Top Artists charts aren't available for public viewing. I think they'll relate everything officially on the first week of December. I can see platforms like Spotify/Apple Music and even the RIAA releasing their year/decade-end lists around the same time.
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Post by Lukas on Nov 13, 2019 23:12:53 GMT -5
Aside from the Artists 100 list, I don't recall any other weekly artists list. That could be why the Top Artist Charts aren't available yet.
I will assume they'll release the decade end charts later this month; they most likely would've tracked the charts until the end of the decade (Nov. 23 or Nov. 30, 2019) if they were intending to release it in December.
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Post by rockgolf on Nov 14, 2019 11:00:55 GMT -5
Billboard just put out new articles listing The Beatles, Elton John & Mariah Carey as the #1 band, male and female act of all time. No other acts are listed. No new GOATs.
Not sure what that is leading to, but they also have an article on the history of their charts.
Gee, I'm hoping it doesn't mean major changes coming...
ETA: Ah! The reason for these list is Billboard's 125th Anniversary issue.
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Post by rockgolf on Nov 14, 2019 11:04:21 GMT -5
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Nov 14, 2019 11:04:53 GMT -5
I have a heavy feeling that they will be released next week, alongside the GOAT and year end list (Dec 1 - Nov. 23 scenario) If I remember correctly, they have always released the Year-End charts on December.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Nov 14, 2019 11:12:37 GMT -5
I'm surprised that Drake didn't manage to have one of the top 5 Billboard 200 albums of the 2010s.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Nov 14, 2019 11:16:02 GMT -5
"Billboard's decade-end recaps encompass chart performance from Dec. 5, 2009, through Sept. 28, 2019". Way to distort the definition of what a decade is, Billboard!
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Post by lights on Nov 14, 2019 11:16:23 GMT -5
I see they're trying to deny the leak happening:
"For overall Top Artists and genre-specific artist recaps, acts ranked Nos. 11 through 50 on each are viewable in our decade-end charts menu, while those at Nos. 10 through 6 will be revealed monthly leading up to the Billboard Music Awards, airing live on NBC on April 29, 2020, when No. 1 for each category will be announced from among five remaining finalists."
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Post by rockgolf on Nov 14, 2019 11:17:50 GMT -5
www.billboard.com/charts/decade-endTop 100 song & albums are available, but only top artists #11-#100. (See below. I've added in the top 10 that Billboard accidentally posted earlier this month.) #10 thru #6 will be listed one per month, #1-#5 at the BBMAs at the end of April. The suspense ain't exactly killing me. ## act 1. Drake 2. Taylor Swift 3. Bruno Mars 4. Rihanna 5. Adele 6. Ed Sheeran 7. Justin Bieber 8. Katy Perry 9. Maroon 5 10. Post Malone11 Lady Gaga 12 Ariana Grande 13 Imagine Dragons 14 The Weeknd 15 Nicki Minaj 16 Eminem 17 Luke Bryan 18 P!nk 19 One Direction 20 Justin Timberlake 21 Kendrick Lamar 22 Lady Antebellum 23 Beyonce 24 Jason Aldean 25 Sam Smith 26 Kesha 27 Florida Georgia Line 28 twenty one pilots 29 Lil Wayne 30 Chris Brown 31 Blake Shelton 32 Travis Scott 33 Khalid 34 Shawn Mendes 35 Cardi B 36 Future 37 Mumford & Sons 38 Selena Gomez 39 JAY-Z 40 Meghan Trainor 41 J. Cole 42 Usher 43 Coldplay 44 The Black Eyed Peas 45 Pitbull 46 Flo Rida 47 Michael Buble 48 Zac Brown Band 49 Jason Derulo 50 The Chainsmokers 51 Halsey 52 Lorde 53 Kanye West 54 Kenny Chesney 55 Miley Cyrus 56 Carrie Underwood 57 Wiz Khalifa 58 Migos 59 Kelly Clarkson 60 OneRepublic 61 Macklemore & Ryan Lewis 62 XXXTENTACION 63 Eric Church 64 Juice WRLD 65 fun. 66 Billie Eilish 67 LMFAO 68 DJ Khaled 69 Chris Stapleton 70 Calvin Harris 71 Britney Spears 72 Fetty Wap 73 Sia 74 Pentatonix 75 Kidz Bop Kids 76 David Guetta 77 U2 78 Ellie Goulding 79 The Lumineers 80 Pharrell Williams 81 The Rolling Stones 82 Train 83 Trey Songz 84 Demi Lovato 85 Sam Hunt 86 Big Sean 87 Camila Cabello 88 Lil Uzi Vert 89 Panic! At The Disco 90 Miranda Lambert 91 Bruce Springsteen 92 John Legend 93 B.o.B 94 21 Savage 95 Thomas Rhett 96 Meek Mill 97 Keith Urban 98 Bon Jovi 99 5 Seconds Of Summer 100 Paul McCartney
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Post by thegreatdivine on Nov 14, 2019 11:25:53 GMT -5
I'm surprised that Drake didn't manage to have one of the top 5 Billboard 200 albums of the 2010s. He released 9 projects commercially this decade, 10 if you count So Far Gone (originally released as a free mixtape in 2009) getting re-released on DSPs this year. 9 of them debuted at #1 and 8 of them made it to the Billboard 200 decade-end chart with one of them placing in the top 10. That's impressive if you ask me.
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Post by Lukas on Nov 14, 2019 11:27:22 GMT -5
"Billboard's decade-end recaps encompass chart performance from Dec. 5, 2009, through Sept. 28, 2019". Way to distort the definition of what a decade is, Billboard! Yes! Yes! Yes!!!!! It's been confirmed!!!!
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Post by thegreatdivine on Nov 14, 2019 11:29:03 GMT -5
rockgolf so they won't be announcing the artist of the decade until April at the BBMAs? Can't say I'm surprised. That's a great thing to milk for the show.
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Post by Lukas on Nov 14, 2019 11:32:16 GMT -5
From Billboard: 'The set's "Psycho," featuring 21 Savage, became each artist's first Hot 100 No. 1 and ends the decade as the chart's No. 23 biggest hit.'
Is there something here Billboard hasn't been telling us?
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Post by fhas on Nov 14, 2019 13:06:21 GMT -5
Closer Streaming #4 Radio #6 Digital Sales #4
UpTown Funk! Streaming #6 Radio #3 Digital Sales #2
It's amazing how both songs were huge in every metric.
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