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Post by strongerq on Jul 8, 2020 10:52:45 GMT -5
I think that you are wrong about the streams part. HAMILTON still needs 1500 streams to count as 1 album unit. 10 songs sold are still 1 album unit. 1 album sale = 2 album units (if the runtime is more than 100 min, and there are 2 discs).
Only sales are counted double for double albums. And HAMILTON has 1,939,000 pure sales total. Whic when multipied by 2 you get <4M. Based on oldbloke's estimates it has sold 34,000 pure sales in 2020.
Aditionally, Billboard doesn't have a rule for double albums. HAMILTON has 4.6M album units during its chart run on BB200. -number is by oldbloke
So when you add 4.6M & 1.9M (album sales that count double), you get 6.5M album units. HAMILTON had 300K in 2020, and was certified 6 X Platinum on April 4, 2019
Oh wow, I was under the assumption streams were also counted 2x because I remember Chris Brown's "Heart Break on a Full Moon" double album went 2x Platinum even though it barely sold any pure sales and was barely past 1 million units on Billboard 200. Perhaps he just had a bunch of YouTube streams somehow. That would be surprising though, because none of the album's singles even peaked above #40. I based my opinion on the rules stated in 'About The awards'. But this album 'Heart Break on a Full Moon' does look somewhat suspicious or not .
It had 708K SPS in 2017 (based on HitsDD, 707K based on oldbloke - so it is corrrect). 80K were pure. It was certified Platinum on January 18, 2018.
The 708K are without YouTube & without single sales from 2016 (one single was released on May 5, 2016 & another in Dec 2016). So the album has 788K (pure are x2) that would leave 212K from YouTube an that single. So possible, even though the videos aren't that popular.
In 2018 it had 632,000 SPS, in 2019 it had 314,000 SPS - without YouTube again. Total would be 1,654,000 + 150,000 pure (counted twice) = 1.8M. So with YouTube it looks possible. It was certified mid 2019 so we would have to take out 150K (because of 300K whole year). 350K would need to come from YouTube + that pre-released single in 2016.
Again i can't find an official rule weather A or B is right, but it makes somewhat sense.
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Post by renfield75 on Jul 8, 2020 12:11:27 GMT -5
^Yeah. That's the problem of having to pay RIAA to certify. The album should be recertified this year if they pay. So many albums are woefully under certified. Purple Rain was last certified in 1996 at 13x platinum. The Grease soundtrack was last certified, at 8x platinum, in 1984! Pretty sure it's had some sales/streams since then...
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jul 8, 2020 17:08:04 GMT -5
^I think Billboard wrote about Grease being under-certified. Or was it Paul Grein?
8xp for a 2LP album. Before the doubling rules.
So 16xP + 6 million with SoundScan = 22xP.
Lionel Richie's Can't Slow Down. 10xP in 1985! It has not been updated in 35 years...
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Post by Enigma. on Jul 9, 2020 2:35:18 GMT -5
Purple Rain must have "sold" like 2M units since Prince's death.
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Post by WolfSpear on Jul 10, 2020 15:37:48 GMT -5
Keep in mind that Grease returned to the top 10 (Nielsen) in 1997. It legitimately sold enough when the whole revival craze hit for its anniversary...
They'd probably count it as a single disc, given its CD configuration. I'd say pretty close to 20xP.
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Post by shaz196 on Jul 10, 2020 15:42:37 GMT -5
What's taking HDD so long to publish the final numbers?
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jul 10, 2020 15:55:35 GMT -5
Purple Rain must have "sold" like 2M units since Prince's death. Pure album sales: 2016: 497,000 2017: 171,000 2018: 98,000 2019: 92,000 2020: 12,000 = 870,000 For SPS, definitely over 1 million. PR was certified 13xP in May 1996, 24 years ago. No Prince albums/singles have been re-certified since he died in 2016.
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Post by strongerq on Jul 10, 2020 16:19:52 GMT -5
hitsdailydouble.com/sales_plus_streaming LW | TW | Artist | Title | Label | Total | Change | Albums | TEA | SEA | -- | 1 | POP SMOKE | SHOOT FOR THE STARS AIM FOR THE MOON | VICTOR VICTOR/REPUBLIC | 248,606 | -- | 58,350 | 2,648 | 187,608 | 20 | 2 | HAMILTON | ORIGINAL BROADWAY CAST | UPTOWN/ATLANTIC | 96,100 | 308% | 32,930 | 3,815 | 59,355 | 1 | 3 | LIL BABY | MY TURN | QUALITY CONTROL/MOTOWN/CAPITOL | 60,090 | -10% | 445 | 585 | 59,060 | 4 | 4 | DABABY | BLAME IT ON BABY | SCMG/INTERSCOPE | 36,994 | -5% | 298 | 1,503 | 35,194 | 3 | 5 | POST MALONE | HOLLYWOOD'S BLEEDING | REPUBLIC | 34,396 | -12% | 2,119 | 988 | 31,289 | 9 | 6 | POLO G | THE GOAT | COLUMBIA | 29,345 | -3% | 116 | 123 | 29,107 | 7 | 7 | LIL UZI VERT | ETERNAL ATAKE | GENERATION NOW/ATLANTIC | 29,073 | -6% | 274 | 126 | 28,672 | 5 | 8 | HARRY STYLES | FINE LINE | COLUMBIA | 29,054 | -9% | 4,030 | 1,418 | 23,606 | 6 | 9 | THE WEEKND | AFTER HOURS | XO/REPUBLIC | 28,582 | -10% | 2,601 | 1,349 | 24,632 | 8 | 10 | DRAKE | DARK LANE DEMO TAPES | OVO/REPUBLIC | 26,549 | -14% | 183 | 427 | 25,939 | 2 | 11 | LIL DURK | JUST CAUSE Y'ALL WAITED 2 | ALAMO/GEFFEN/INTERSCOPE | 26,504 | -35% | 124 | 264 | 26,117 | 12 | 12 | FUTURE | HIGH OFF LIFE | FREEBANDZ/EPIC | 25,077 | -10% | 69 | 297 | 24,711 | 15 | 13 | RODDY RICCH | PLEASE EXCUSE ME FOR BEING ANTISOCIAL | BIRD VISION/ATLANTIC | 24,405 | -5% | 376 | 339 | 23,691 | 13 | 14 | GUNNA | WUNNA | YOUNG STONER LIFE | 24,150 | -12% | 95 | 138 | 23,917 | 17 | 15 | BAD BUNNY | YHLQMDLG | RIMAS | 23,466 | -7% | 365 | 189 | 22,912 | 18 | 16 | LUKE COMBS | WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET | RIVER HOUSE/COLUMBIA NASHVILLE | 22,955 | -8% | 2,616 | 1,246 | 19,093 | 21 | 17 | MORGAN WALLEN | IF I KNOW ME | BIG LOUD | 22,611 | 5% | 1,086 | 970 | 20,555 | 10 | 18 | LADY GAGA | CHROMATICA | INTERSCOPE | 21,627 | -26% | 4,422 | 905 | 16,301 | 19 | 19 | JACK HARLOW | SWEET ACTION | GENERATION NOW/ATLANTIC | 20,807 | -15% | 98 | 516 | 20,193 | 22 | 20 | LUKE COMBS | THIS ONE'S FOR YOU | RIVER HOUSE/COLUMBIA NASHVILLE | 20,771 | -1% | 1,401 | 504 | 18,866 | 25 | 21 | JUICE WRLD | GOODBYE & GOOD RIDDANCE | GRADE A/INTERSCOPE | 20,492 | 1% | 453 | 179 | 19,860 | 35 | 22 | ROD WAVE | PRAY 4 LOVE | ALAMO/GEFFEN/INTERSCOPE | 19,398 | 15% | 103 | 304 | 18,991 | 16 | 23 | A BOOGIE WIT DA HOODIE | ARTIST 2.0 | HIGHBRIDGE/ATLANTIC | 18,900 | -26% | 123 | 112 | 18,666 | -- | 24 | GUCCI MANE | GUCCI MANE PRESENTS: SO ICY SUMMER | GUWOP/ATLANTIC | 18,773 | -- | 1,055 | 392 | 17,326 | 27 | 25 | ANUEL AA | EMMANUEL | REAL HASTA LA MUERTE | 18,644 | -3% | 403 | 143 | 18,099 | 23 | 26 | MEGAN THEE STALLION | SUGA | ATLANTIC | 18,493 | -10% | 158 | 1,047 | 17,289 | 30 | 27 | QUEEN | GREATEST HITS 1 | HOLLYWOOD | 18,401 | -2% | 2,931 | 803 | 14,667 | 24 | 28 | BILLIE EILISH | WHEN WE ALL FALL ASLEEP, WHERE DO WE GO? | DARKROOM/INTERSCOPE | 18,400 | -10% | 3,263 | 417 | 14,720 | 28 | 29 | POP SMOKE | MEET THE WOO 2 | VICTOR VICTOR/REPUBLIC | 18,299 | -4% | 953 | 212 | 16,134 | 29 | 30 | LEWIS CAPALDI | DIVINELY UNINSPIRED TO A HELLISH EXTENT | VERTIGO BERLIN/CAPITOL | 17,860 | -5% | 665 | 886 | 16,309 | 26 | 31 | DUA LIPA | FUTURE NOSTALGIA | WARNER | 17,601 | -8% | 1,451 | 892 | 15,258 | 32 | 32 | DOJA CAT | HOT PINK | KEMOSABE/RCA | 17,289 | -5% | 233 | 628 | 16,428 | 31 | 33 | POST MALONE | BEERBONGS & BENTLEYS | REPUBLIC | 17,042 | -8% | 413 | 309 | 16,320 | 33 | 34 | TRAVIS SCOTT | ASTROWORLD | CACTUS JACK/GRAND HUSTLE/EPIC | 16,281 | -8% | 631 | 148 | 15,502 | 43 | 35 | JUICE WRLD | DEATH RACE FOR LOVE | GRADE A/INTERSCOPE | 15,953 | 2% | 245 | 131 | 15,578 | 46 | 36 | BOB MARLEY & THE WAILERS | LEGEND | TUFF GONG/ISLAND | 15,800 | 5% | 3,572 | 382 | 11,845 | 37 | 37 | SAM HUNT | SOUTHSIDE | MCA NASHVILLE | 15,295 | -6% | 846 | 792 | 13,657 | 41 | 38 | SUMMER WALKER | OVER IT | LVRN/INTERSCOPE | 15,204 | -4% | 384 | 159 | 14,661 | 42 | 39 | ELTON JOHN | DIAMONDS | ISLAND | 15,136 | -4% | 2,003 | 853 | 12,279 | 44 | 40 | DRAKE | SCORPION | YMCMB/REPUBLIC | 14,890 | -2% | 155 | 148 | 14,587 | -- | 41 | CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL | CHRONICLE: THE 20 GREATEST HITS | FANTASY | 14,671 | -- | 2,512 | 665 | 11,494 | 38 | 42 | FROZEN 2 | SOUNDTRACK | WALT DISNEY | 14,182 | -12% | 2,686 | 408 | 11,088 | 49 | 43 | MONEYBAGG YO | TIME SERVED | N-LESS/INTERSCOPE | 13,951 | -4% | 81 | 283 | 13,588 | 39 | 44 | TAYLOR SWIFT | LOVER | REPUBLIC | 13,927 | -13% | 1,747 | 325 | 11,855 | 40 | 45 | JUSTIN BIEBER | CHANGES | RBMG/DEF JAM | 13,865 | -14% | 648 | 619 | 12,598 | 48 | 46 | JHENE AIKO | CHILOMBO | DEF JAM | 13,724 | -6% | 520 | 175 | 13,029 | 47 | 47 | POST MALONE | STONEY | REPUBLIC | 13,429 | -9% | 341 | 188 | 12,901 | -- | 48 | TOM PETTY & THE HEARTBREAKERS | GREATEST HITS | MCA | 12,808 | -- | 1,373 | 395 | 11,040 | -- | 49 | WILLIE NELSON | FIRST ROSE OF SPRING | LEGACY | 12,789 | -- | 11,965 | 232 | 591 | -- | 50 | DABABY | KIRK | SCMG/INTERSCOPE | 12,235 | -- | 106 | 142 | 11,986 |
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Jul 10, 2020 16:26:35 GMT -5
Dunno why people have suddenly decided to not to listen fresher female albums and go back to Post Malone's old one lol Because HB > Chromatica
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Post by Enigma. on Jul 10, 2020 16:33:30 GMT -5
Great increases for Hamilton and Tom Petty's GH!
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jul 10, 2020 17:16:20 GMT -5
hitsdailydouble.com/sales_plus_streaming LW | TW | Artist | Title | Label | Total | Change | Albums | TEA | SEA | -- | 1 | POP SMOKE | SHOOT FOR THE STARS AIM FOR THE MOON | VICTOR VICTOR/REPUBLIC | 248,606 | -- | 58,350 | 2,648 | 187,608 | 20 | 2 | HAMILTON | ORIGINAL BROADWAY CAST | UPTOWN/ATLANTIC | 96,100 | 308% | 32,930 | 3,815 | 59,355 | 1 | 3 | LIL BABY | MY TURN | QUALITY CONTROL/MOTOWN/CAPITOL | 60,090 | -10% | 445 | 585 | 59,060 | 4 | 4 | DABABY | BLAME IT ON BABY | SCMG/INTERSCOPE | 36,994 | -5% | 298 | 1,503 | 35,194 | 3 | 5 | POST MALONE | HOLLYWOOD'S BLEEDING | REPUBLIC | 34,396 | -12% | 2,119 | 988 | 31,289 | 5 | 6 | HARRY STYLES | FINE LINE | COLUMBIA | 29,054 | -9% | 4,030 | 1,418 | 23,606 | 9 | 7 | POLO G | THE GOAT | COLUMBIA | 29,345 | -3% | 116 | 123 | 29,107 | 7 | 8 | LIL UZI VERT | ETERNAL ATAKE | GENERATION NOW/ATLANTIC | 29,073 | -6% | 274 | 126 | 28,672 | 6 | 9 | THE WEEKND | AFTER HOURS | XO/REPUBLIC | 28,582 | -10% | 2,601 | 1,349 | 24,632 | 2 | 10 | LIL DURK | JUST CAUSE Y'ALL WAITED 2 | ALAMO/GEFFEN/INTERSCOPE | 26,504 | -35% | 124 | 264 | 26,117 | 8 | 11 | DRAKE | DARK LANE DEMO TAPES | OVO/REPUBLIC | 26,549 | -14% | 183 | 427 | 25,939 | 12 | 12 | FUTURE | HIGH OFF LIFE | FREEBANDZ/EPIC | 25,077 | -10% | 69 | 297 | 24,711 | 13 | 13 | GUNNA | WUNNA | YOUNG STONER LIFE | 24,150 | -12% | 95 | 138 | 23,917 | 17 | 14 | BAD BUNNY | YHLQMDLG | RIMAS | 23,466 | -7% | 365 | 189 | 22,912 | 15 | 15 | RODDY RICCH | PLEASE EXCUSE ME FOR BEING ANTISOCIAL | BIRD VISION/ATLANTIC | 24,405 | -5% | 376 | 339 | 23,691 | 18 | 16 | LUKE COMBS | WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET | RIVER HOUSE/COLUMBIA NASHVILLE | 22,955 | -8% | 2,616 | 1,246 | 19,093 | 21 | 17 | MORGAN WALLEN | IF I KNOW ME | BIG LOUD | 22,611 | 5% | 1,086 | 970 | 20,555 | 10 | 18 | LADY GAGA | CHROMATICA | INTERSCOPE | 21,627 | -26% | 4,422 | 905 | 16,301 | 19 | 19 | JACK HARLOW | SWEET ACTION | GENERATION NOW/ATLANTIC | 20,807 | -15% | 98 | 516 | 20,193 | 22 | 20 | LUKE COMBS | THIS ONE'S FOR YOU | RIVER HOUSE/COLUMBIA NASHVILLE | 20,771 | -1% | 1,401 | 504 | 18,866 | 25 | 21 | JUICE WRLD | GOODBYE & GOOD RIDDANCE | GRADE A/INTERSCOPE | 20,492 | 1% | 453 | 179 | 19,860 | 35 | 22 | ROD WAVE | PRAY 4 LOVE | ALAMO/GEFFEN/INTERSCOPE | 19,398 | 15% | 103 | 304 | 18,991 | 16 | 23 | A BOOGIE WIT DA HOODIE | ARTIST 2.0 | HIGHBRIDGE/ATLANTIC | 18,900 | -26% | 123 | 112 | 18,666 | -- | 24 | GUCCI MANE | GUCCI MANE PRESENTS: SO ICY SUMMER | GUWOP/ATLANTIC | 18,773 | -- | 1,055 | 392 | 17,326 | 27 | 25 | ANUEL AA | EMMANUEL | REAL HASTA LA MUERTE | 18,644 | -3% | 403 | 143 | 18,099 | 23 | 26 | MEGAN THEE STALLION | SUGA | ATLANTIC | 18,493 | -10% | 158 | 1,047 | 17,289 | 30 | 27 | QUEEN | GREATEST HITS 1 | HOLLYWOOD | 18,401 | -2% | 2,931 | 803 | 14,667 | 24 | 28 | BILLIE EILISH | WHEN WE ALL FALL ASLEEP, WHERE DO WE GO? | DARKROOM/INTERSCOPE | 18,400 | -10% | 3,263 | 417 | 14,720 | 28 | 29 | POP SMOKE | MEET THE WOO 2 | VICTOR VICTOR/REPUBLIC | 18,299 | -4% | 953 | 212 | 16,134 | 29 | 30 | LEWIS CAPALDI | DIVINELY UNINSPIRED TO A HELLISH EXTENT | VERTIGO BERLIN/CAPITOL | 17,860 | -5% | 665 | 886 | 16,309 | 26 | 31 | DUA LIPA | FUTURE NOSTALGIA | WARNER | 17,601 | -8% | 1,451 | 892 | 15,258 | 32 | 32 | DOJA CAT | HOT PINK | KEMOSABE/RCA | 17,289 | -5% | 233 | 628 | 16,428 | 31 | 33 | POST MALONE | BEERBONGS & BENTLEYS | REPUBLIC | 17,042 | -8% | 413 | 309 | 16,320 | 33 | 34 | TRAVIS SCOTT | ASTROWORLD | CACTUS JACK/GRAND HUSTLE/EPIC | 16,281 | -8% | 631 | 148 | 15,502 | 43 | 35 | JUICE WRLD | DEATH RACE FOR LOVE | GRADE A/INTERSCOPE | 15,953 | 2% | 245 | 131 | 15,578 | 46 | 36 | BOB MARLEY & THE WAILERS | LEGEND | TUFF GONG/ISLAND | 15,800 | 5% | 3,572 | 382 | 11,845 | 37 | 37 | SAM HUNT | SOUTHSIDE | MCA NASHVILLE | 15,295 | -6% | 846 | 792 | 13,657 | 41 | 38 | SUMMER WALKER | OVER IT | LVRN/INTERSCOPE | 15,204 | -4% | 384 | 159 | 14,661 | 42 | 39 | ELTON JOHN | DIAMONDS | ISLAND | 15,136 | -4% | 2,003 | 853 | 12,279 | 44 | 40 | DRAKE | SCORPION | YMCMB/REPUBLIC | 14,890 | -2% | 155 | 148 | 14,587 | -- | 41 | CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL | CHRONICLE: THE 20 GREATEST HITS | FANTASY | 14,671 | -- | 2,512 | 665 | 11,494 | 38 | 42 | FROZEN 2 | SOUNDTRACK | WALT DISNEY | 14,182 | -12% | 2,686 | 408 | 11,088 | 49 | 43 | MONEYBAGG YO | TIME SERVED | N-LESS/INTERSCOPE | 13,951 | -4% | 81 | 283 | 13,588 | 39 | 44 | TAYLOR SWIFT | LOVER | REPUBLIC | 13,927 | -13% | 1,747 | 325 | 11,855 | 40 | 45 | JUSTIN BIEBER | CHANGES | RBMG/DEF JAM | 13,865 | -14% | 648 | 619 | 12,598 | 48 | 46 | JHENE AIKO | CHILOMBO | DEF JAM | 13,724 | -6% | 520 | 175 | 13,029 | 47 | 47 | POST MALONE | STONEY | REPUBLIC | 13,429 | -9% | 341 | 188 | 12,901 | -- | 48 | TOM PETTY & THE HEARTBREAKERS | GREATEST HITS | MCA | 12,808 | -- | 1,373 | 395 | 11,040 | -- | 49 | WILLIE NELSON | FIRST ROSE OF SPRING | LEGACY | 12,789 | -- | 11,965 | 232 | 591 | -- | 50 | DABABY | KIRK | SCMG/INTERSCOPE | 12,235 | -- | 106 | 142 | 11,986 |
According to this, Drake moved 26,549 units while Lil Durk moved 26,504 units so how is Lil Durk above Drake? Or is it a mistake?
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Post by Naos on Jul 10, 2020 17:22:09 GMT -5
According to this, Drake moved 26,549 units while Lil Dirk moved 26,504 units so how is Lil Dirk above Drake? Or is it a mistake? Hits Daily Double says Lil Durk is below Drake, so either they changed it or that poster made a mistake.
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Post by strongerq on Jul 10, 2020 17:26:14 GMT -5
According to this, Drake moved 26,549 units while Lil Dirk moved 26,504 units so how is Lil Dirk above Drake? Or is it a mistake? I just copy & paste it. Hits seem to have made a misstake an now have fixed it. I edited it Hits Daily Double says Lil Durk is below Drake, so either they changed it or that poster made a mistake. They seem to have made a misstake. I just Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V
Edit: Now the TW (This Week) numbers are fuсked up 12-16. ffs
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jul 10, 2020 17:29:14 GMT -5
Please stop quoting a 50-position chart!
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Post by ddlz on Jul 10, 2020 17:58:52 GMT -5
After these Pop Smoke numbers, I'm upgrading my Juice Wrld predictions to 400k+.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jul 10, 2020 18:24:42 GMT -5
I checked HITS SPS table. The numbers are in the right order. The positions should be in that same order. Currently, they have #13 through #15 assigned incorrectly.
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Post by Enigma. on Jul 11, 2020 2:55:14 GMT -5
Dunno why people have suddenly decided to not to listen fresher female albums and go back to Post Malone's old one lol Because HB > Chromatica As if Chromatica is the only female album released after HB
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Post by fhas on Jul 11, 2020 9:43:53 GMT -5
Thanks for doing this! I feel like people need to appreciate your hard work for the Pulse community.
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Post by collegedropout on Jul 11, 2020 10:06:07 GMT -5
If Chromatica drops out of top 20 next week and there are no female debuts, that will be all men in the top 20? Is that a first time?
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Post by strongerq on Jul 11, 2020 10:12:33 GMT -5
If Chromatica drops out of top 20 next week and there are no female debuts, that will be all men in the top 20? Is that a first time? Summer Walker has a new EP.
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Post by strongerq on Jul 11, 2020 10:19:41 GMT -5
Thanks for doing this! I feel like people need to appreciate your hard work for the Pulse community. I just copy and paste the whole chart in a program. And turn the input "58,350" into an output like this [td style="border:2px solid #000;background:#ebebe0;"]58,350[/td] - which is the syntax for tables that is used here. Ctrl+C -> Ctrl+V -> Run -> Ctrl+C -> Ctrl+V is my whole effort
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