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Post by shayonce on Jul 26, 2020 3:05:15 GMT -5
Niensen year end (pure sales) 1989 : 2014 3.66M - 2.228 CD +1.409 Digital(38.5%) *9wks 1989 : 2015 1.993M 1.055M Physical + 938k Digital Reputation : 1.903M - 1.035m Physical + 868k Digital(45.6%) *6wks Lover : 1.085M - 699,000 Physical + 386k Digital(35.5%) *18wks
First week to Second week (pure sales) Reputation: 1.216M = 507k CD + 709k Digital -> 232k (-80.9%) Lover: 679k = 375k CD + 304k Digital -> 87k (-87.2%)
*"1989" 1 Target Deluxe + 5 set random photo cards, "Reputation" 2 Target special versions + Tour pre-sale code, "Lover" 4 Target special versions. *"Lover" had 4 months pre-order with +100 merchandise bundles.(counted as digital sales)
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Post by GP on Jul 26, 2020 10:29:00 GMT -5
I feel like Taylor could go 800k+
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jul 26, 2020 11:12:45 GMT -5
^If it can manage to do more than Lover did, that would be quite an accomplishment, all things considered.
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Post by Naos on Jul 26, 2020 12:19:01 GMT -5
I just bought this album and I'm decently enjoying it, so I'm glad it's doing well, especially since it lacks a huge mainstream sound pretty much all of her previous ones had.
I assume the physical copies on her website are only counted once for the digital sale, yes?
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Post by atg on Jul 26, 2020 13:52:16 GMT -5
I listened to the 1 and cardigan and i really felt the night time atmosphere vibe to it
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Post by strongerq on Jul 26, 2020 14:24:45 GMT -5
I assume the physical copies on her website are only counted once for the digital sale, yes? Correct. 1 sale is counted immediatelly (the digital one), At least this is gonna be untill October or sth.
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Post by Mayman on Jul 27, 2020 9:21:49 GMT -5
650k+ without physical copies? That is CRAZY. It's not entirely without physical copies - as there are plenty of physicals available on Taylor's website, and they count twice (since they include a separate digital download - and Billboard's rule prohibiting that doesn't take effect until August). The main thing that's "missing" here is the assortment of Target collector's editions, which have historically been a major factor for Taylor (though if IIRC, not quite as much for Lover). Now, don't get me wrong, the number is still phenomenal for 2020 - and would be even if there WERE Target editions available. I just wanted to point out that Hits' post is a bit misleading, as it treats D2C and physical as mutually exclusive. Unless I read what you said wrong, bundles that include a digital download have never counted twice. I'm not sure where you got that from.
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Post by kanimal on Jul 27, 2020 9:53:37 GMT -5
It's not entirely without physical copies - as there are plenty of physicals available on Taylor's website, and they count twice (since they include a separate digital download - and Billboard's rule prohibiting that doesn't take effect until August). The main thing that's "missing" here is the assortment of Target collector's editions, which have historically been a major factor for Taylor (though if IIRC, not quite as much for Lover). Now, don't get me wrong, the number is still phenomenal for 2020 - and would be even if there WERE Target editions available. I just wanted to point out that Hits' post is a bit misleading, as it treats D2C and physical as mutually exclusive. Unless I read what you said wrong, bundles that include a digital download have never counted twice. I'm not sure where you got that from. In its note about the bundle rule change, Billboard made a whole thing about how as of August, it will no longer be counting the purchase as a digital sale and only counting the physical item when it ships. So I mistakenly assumed that meant that they are currently counting both the physical item the customer is actually buying, as well as the additional digital download that was being bundled. Basically, I saw the change as a matter of "what" gets counted ... as opposed to a mere issue of "when" and "how" it gets counted. In looking back, Billboard's point is that the physical albums were being reported as "digital sales" instead of "physical sales" and therefore eligible to count as soon as the download was available (immediately). In my head, I erroneously replaced "instead of" with "and".
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jul 27, 2020 12:21:42 GMT -5
^I guess calling the chart, "Mostly Digital Song Sales" would have been a bit awkward.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jul 27, 2020 17:59:18 GMT -5
www.billboard.com/articles/business/chart-beat/9425264/taylor-swift-folklore-half-million-units-first-three-daysTaylor Swift’s ‘Folklore’ Off to Fast Start, Over Half-Million Units Earned in U.S. in First Three Days7/27/2020 by Keith Caulfield It has already surpassed the biggest week of 2020 for any album. Taylor Swift’s new album Folklore has earned more than 500,000 equivalent album units in the U.S. in its first three days of release, according to initial reports to Nielsen Music/MRC Data. The set was released with little advance notice on Friday, July 24. Per those reports, Folklore has, in just its first three days, already surpassed the biggest week of 2020 for any album, captured earlier this month by the arrival of Juice WRLD’s Legends Never Die, which launched with 497,000 units in the week ending July 16. The last album to garner at least 500,000 units in a week was Swift’s previous LP, Lover, which bowed at No. 1 on the Billboard 200 chart dated Sept. 7, 2019, with 867,000 units earned in the week ending Aug. 29, 2019. Equivalent album units comprise album sales, track equivalent albums (TEA) and streaming equivalent albums (SEA). Each unit equals one album sale, or 10 individual tracks sold from an album, or 3,750 ad-supported or 1,250 paid/subscription on-demand official audio and video streams generated by songs from an album. Of Folklore’s more than 500,000 units tallied in its first three days, album sales power more than 400,000, while the bulk of the remainder is in SEA units. Folklore’s 16 songs garnered 126 million on-demand streams in its first two days of release in the U.S. No album outside of the R&B/hip-hop or Latin genres has generated that many streams in a week in 2020. (The biggest streaming week for any album in 2020 was earned by Legends Never Die’s debut frame, with 422.63 million.) Folklore is currently only available to purchase via Swift’s official webstore or via digital retailers such as the iTunes Store. No information has been announced regarding a wider release on any physical format (CD, vinyl, etc.) to retailers outside of Swift’s webstore. Swift’s webstore is selling over a dozen physical/digital album bundles (with a CD, vinyl LP or cassette, plus the digital album). All of the physical/digital bundles deliver the digital version of the album upon purchase to the customer, while the physical version will ship to the customer later. Sales of such bundles – where two formats of the same album are bundled together – are counted as one sale, with the album configuration sold determined by the first version of the album that is fulfilled to the customer. Swift’s store additionally has over a dozen merchandise/digital album bundles currently available to purchase.
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Post by Caviar on Jul 27, 2020 18:10:05 GMT -5
So happy for her.
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Post by GP on Jul 27, 2020 18:20:58 GMT -5
soooo 710k?
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Jul 27, 2020 18:22:44 GMT -5
Definitely over 700k, huge numbers.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jul 27, 2020 18:48:43 GMT -5
All hail the Swifty.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Jul 27, 2020 19:07:35 GMT -5
So if this holds like Lover (which sold 575k or 66% of its first week total in the first 3 days) this would put Folklore at 750k. I don't think it will hold as well, so I am thinking it will be on the high end no more than 650-700k.
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Post by nickd on Jul 27, 2020 19:21:12 GMT -5
So if this holds like Lover (which sold 575k or 66% of its first week total in the first 3 days) this would put Folklore at 750k. I don't think it will hold as well, so I am thinking it will be on the high end no more than 650-700k. I think it'll hold just as well or better. Lover had a lot of pre-orders and bundles, while Folklore is doing much better on streaming which has better stability than pure sales.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Jul 27, 2020 19:22:27 GMT -5
So if this holds like Lover (which sold 575k or 66% of its first week total in the first 3 days) this would put Folklore at 750k. I don't think it will hold as well, so I am thinking it will be on the high end no more than 650-700k. I think it'll hold just as well or better. Lover had a lot of pre-orders and bundles, while Folklore is doing much better on streaming which has better stability than pure sales. Let's hope! How is it doing as far as daily streams compared to Lover?
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Post by strongerq on Jul 27, 2020 19:45:31 GMT -5
I think it'll hold just as well or better. Lover had a lot of pre-orders and bundles, while Folklore is doing much better on streaming which has better stability than pure sales. Let's hope! How is it doing as far as daily streams compared to Lover? Spotify US Album | Day 1 | Day 2 | Day 3 | Day 4 | Day 5 | Day 6 | Day 7 | Week | Lover | 29,062,196 | 19,623,784 | 15,023,671 | 17,811,604 | 15,846,242 | 14,573,111 | 13,388,555 | 127,023,600 | folklore | 44,489,103 | 27,008,458 | 20,166,155 | - | - | - | - | - |
Apple Music US AM US day 4 | Lover | folklore | top 5 | 2 | 4 | top 10 | 3 | 5 | top 25 | 6 | 10 | top 50 | 8 | 16 | top 100 | 11 | / |
Important: Video streaming (YouTube) counts for Billboard 200 since January 2020. It is not much since it is free tier, but still adds some streams/units.
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Post by shayonce on Jul 28, 2020 11:48:09 GMT -5
TAYLOR SHOOTS PAST 700KYou already know that Taylor Swift is on track for the biggest #1 chart bow of 2020 YTD with her new Republic set, folklore. Now it looks like she's blown past initial forecasts of 650k+ and is now expected to surpass 700k with ease in her opening frame. hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=322486&title=TAYLOR-SHOOTS-PAST-700K
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Post by nickd on Jul 28, 2020 12:07:34 GMT -5
I think it'll hold just as well or better. Lover had a lot of pre-orders and bundles, while Folklore is doing much better on streaming which has better stability than pure sales. Let's hope! How is it doing as far as daily streams compared to Lover? They've just updated to 700k... with ease.
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Post by drakefanovo on Jul 28, 2020 12:15:13 GMT -5
The only artists that can do over 700k is Drake, Taylor, Adele! Who else?
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Jul 28, 2020 12:18:24 GMT -5
Let's hope! How is it doing as far as daily streams compared to Lover? They've just updated to 700k... with ease. Damn. Extremely happy for her!
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Post by Choco on Jul 28, 2020 12:38:40 GMT -5
Taylor Swift is the music industry.
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Post by Ratatouille on Jul 28, 2020 13:19:24 GMT -5
The only artists that can do over 700k is Drake, Taylor, Adele! Who else? Drake now idk
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Post by Enigma. on Jul 28, 2020 13:32:33 GMT -5
Considerin Dark Lane did 223k with #1 single, 700k seems out of reach for him but who knows if he could do it with surprise release as well.
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Post by shaz196 on Jul 28, 2020 14:46:52 GMT -5
Would be interesting to see how many of her pure sales are from D2C and how many are from the 16 alternative physicals, hope there's an extensive breakdown by billboard.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Jul 28, 2020 14:49:19 GMT -5
I 100 percent believe Drake will break 700k with his next album
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jul 28, 2020 17:48:31 GMT -5
hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=322492&title=TOP-20%253A-BIGGER-THAN-THE-LORE-ALLOWSTuesday, July 28, 2020 TOP 20: BIGGER THAN THE LORE ALLOWSTaylor Swift should land comfortably above 700k on this Friday’s HITS Top 50, the largest debut since her previous album, Lover, which opened with 867k last summer. It'll also be 2020's biggest #1 bow so far, but you knew that. Logic’s final album before retiring from music and moving to Twitch will log more than 150k. Both Swift and Logic open with substantial contributions from their respective D2C stores. 1. *Taylor Swift (Republic) 725-750k total activity, 500-525k albums 2. *Logic (Def Jam) 150-170k, 100-120k 3. Juice WRLD (Grade A/Interscope) 95-105k, 8-11k 4. Pop Smoke (Victor Victor/Republic) 90-100k, 1-3k 5. Hamilton (Uptown/Atlantic) 70-75k, 11-13k 6. Gunna (Young Stoner Life) 60-65k, 1-2k 7. Lil Baby (Quality Control/Motown/Capitol) 50-55k, <1k 8. *The Kid Laroi (Columbia) 32-37k, 4-6k 9. Post Malone (Republic) 30-35k, 1-2k 10. DaBaby (SCMG/Interscope) 28-32k, <1k 11. Harry Styles (Columbia) 25-28k, 4-6k 12. Jhene Aiko (Def Jam) 24-27k, 2-3k 13. Polo G (Columbia) 24-27k, <1k 14. The Weeknd (XO/Republic) 24-27k, 1-3k 15. Lil Uzi Vert (Generation Now/Atlantic) 21-24k, <1k 16. Drake (OVO/Republic) 21-24k, <1k 17. Future (Freebandz/Epic) 21-24k, <1k 18. The Chicks (Columbia) 21-24k, 14-17k 19. Rod Wave (Alamo/Geffen/Interscope) 21-24k, <1k 20. Luke Combs (River House/Columbia Nashville) 20-23k, 1-3k *Debuts
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jul 28, 2020 18:01:12 GMT -5
Logic also got a nice upgrade for his album thanks to album bundles. I don't think that many people were paying attention to The Kid Laroi's album release. Not that bad a second week for The Chicks.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jul 28, 2020 18:32:00 GMT -5
Potentially topping 500,000 in album sales? So nice to see in this day and age.
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