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Post by born on Feb 8, 2021 5:20:31 GMT -5
So I just watched the show! I quite enjoyed it actually. It could've been much more engaging at times but I'll get to that.
First of all, I liked the opening. The "Call Out My Name" intro leading to "Starboy" in the main stage was very nice. He picked a great setlist. At some point in the beginning he was going through all of his biggest hits so I was a bit confused but in the end it all worked out. My main issue with the show was that it just felt like singing. Some sets were cool and all but most of the show felt so... still? The "Can't Feel My Face" performance was my favorite, nice change of pace. The vocals were above decent. I also enjoyed the "House of Balloons" intro to "Blinding Lights". And I was expecting a ballad moment so I'm glad it was for "Earned It", even though it was the second longest performance of the show? Weird choice.
Unpopular opinion but I like getting more songs, even if it's just little snippets. And 7-10 seems appropriate.
Now, regarding past Halftime Shows... When you think about Justin Timberlake followed by Maroon 5 and now The Weeknd (who really smashed it in comparison)... I think the problem here is obvious. They're all male artists. They will never reach female performer - level shows. I mean you could have a rock band or a rapper with an energetic yet different kind of show. But unless you get someone like Bruno, a pop male headliner will always be underwhelming.
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Post by aussie1 on Feb 8, 2021 5:24:57 GMT -5
but lacking a visual spectacle. Daft Punk would've been perfect for that. Yes! They would of been a perfect guest. He could of sung a bit of 'Get Lucky' his voice would sound great on that song.
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Post by kimberly on Feb 8, 2021 5:54:41 GMT -5
I don't think I have anything to say that hasn't been said—great opening, nice setlist (besides "Earned It"), but low energy and stage presence. Definitely can't compete with Beyoncé (for best) or Maroon 5 (for worst) lol. One interesting thing—I went on the bird app after the show and these two were trending here. People think it's time for Ariana Grande to do a halftime show and also apparently people remember Katy Perry's performance fondly? I love that performance but didn't expect people to bring it up.
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Post by Ling-Ling on Feb 8, 2021 7:06:24 GMT -5
I couldn't get around the audio issues, it sounded like he was singing into a tin can throughout the entire show. As for the show itself, it was a tad sedated, but fine. Loved the setlist.
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Post by Choco on Feb 8, 2021 7:29:28 GMT -5
I still want Rihanna to do this thing. She could bring the energy and the hits.
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Post by musicspy on Feb 8, 2021 8:10:53 GMT -5
Wow guys, idk which SuperBowl I watched. Surprised at all the negative feedback. BL was a huge moment, so was Earned It. I also enjoyed The Hills and I Feel It Coming. Starboy was a mess, and SYT unfortunately too. The only vocal problems I noticed was during the first two songs, not through the whole thing. I enjoyed it a lot
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2021 8:38:26 GMT -5
Well, Abel got a meme out of the whole thing, which in 2021 is about the highest compliment one can receive lol. All the decent halftime shows have at least one. (also Dan Rather is an adorable grandpa ) I don't think I have anything to say that hasn't been said—great opening, nice setlist (besides "Earned It"), but low energy and stage presence. Definitely can't compete with Beyoncé (for best) or Maroon 5 (for worst) lol. One interesting thing—I went on the bird app after the show and these two were trending here. People think it's time for Ariana Grande to do a halftime show and also apparently people remember Katy Perry's performance fondly? I love that performance but didn't expect people to bring it up. Katy's show aged SO WELL. I think it's a given now that past performers + singers many would like to see perform will trend after every show now, because social media is always going to compare, and it's not surprising to me at all that Katy is remembered well in those comparisons. It's just kind of funny to look back on it and remember that not many people at the time were going in expecting hers to be a great (or even good) show. I think I myself said 'she will lip-sync and not embarrass herself' and that was the extent of my expectations for her. After the show people acknowledged that she did well, but kind of begrudgingly. The fact that people couldn't/wouldn't try to put it down even after the two shows immediately following hers (from performers that people more readily give credit to for being great at what they do) was an early sign that it would hold up over time. Ariana could be a good show...she's not someone I necessarily see as the halftime 'type,' but then that's how a lot of people felt about Katy too. Female performers go much harder than the male ones because they have points to prove. The bar for the men is so low but we go in knowing the women will all be pitted against each other for stupid reasons, so they know going into it that they have to go all out to avoid being dragged. It occurred to me last night that Madonna's show hardly ever gets mentioned anymore which is interesting. Seems like she kind of got shoved into the 'forgettable' box along with the male baby boomer performers that we got post 2004 (which REALLY underscores just how impactful Prince's 2007 performance was; it's the only one from that time period anyone still talks about), despite having a show more comparable to the ones that came after her in terms of star power and expense.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Feb 8, 2021 9:00:21 GMT -5
The way some people are acting like they just saw an abomination Like yeah it could've been better, but it was a perfectly decent and enjoyable show especially so when you factor in the COVID regulations. "Earned It" really didn't need that much time and that easily could've gone to something else like "In Your Eyes" or maybe one of his earlier tracks? Although I get the decision in a way since "Earned It" was a big hit and is much more recognizable to people watching. You want songs that people know at these types of shows since it has to appeal to not just his fans. The "Blinding Lights" performance was good though.
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Post by wrip on Feb 8, 2021 9:08:04 GMT -5
I honestly thought that was a really great performance. I think the visuals were so great, really thought it elevated the performance. I loved at the beginning the rows of backup dancers in the stands, I thought that was so awesome to watch. The part where he was in the gold room with the camera close up was honestly so entertaining, something about it just worked.
I know some people felt the energy wasn’t the best, but in my opinion I thought the energy was great. At least for my family and me, we were very engaged throughout. Great show!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2021 9:25:11 GMT -5
I liked the performance but there wasn't any "Superbowl surprises" and it underwhelmed in that regard. I also feel like the backing instrumental was overpowering his voice at times but he did great especially considering Covid-19 restrictions.
It isn't a favorite halftime show but it definitely is not the worst, its a good one overall but something feels missing. I also lowkey was hoping by some chance he would bring someone like Ariana out for LMH or Lana for Lust For Life but that was always wishful thinking
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Post by pnobelysk on Feb 8, 2021 14:42:51 GMT -5
Before I die I want Rihanna with Eminem as a special guest. I know she turned it down before so idk if she will ever do it but it could be incredible
Drive in with shut up and drive playing Pon de reply / Sos mashup Work / Rude Boy Diamonds Love the way you lie - the real slim shady - the monster We found love (biggest dance number) Only girl (fireworks) Umbrella
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Post by Chelsea Press 2 on Feb 8, 2021 15:45:37 GMT -5
I have since watched it and I liked it. It was entertaining and I liked the staging. With what vocals I could hear they were good. The sound was my main issue. I don’t think this was a bad one at all.
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Feb 8, 2021 16:17:40 GMT -5
I really don't understand what this negative feedback is all about. Anyone who's watched any live performance of his before knows he doesn't have a Bruno Mars-level stage presence, and that's perfectly fine! He still delivered an entertaining show brimming with smash hits, and he looked like he was having so much fun. The Gregorian chants were such an amazing touch, and I personally really enjoyed what he did for "Can't Feel My Face". The callbacks to this current era were great as well, especially the bandaged look-alikes. I agree with Chelsea Press 2 that the poor sound mixing was the main issue here, but even then he still pulled off some nice vocal moments, especially on "Earned It" and the finale. Speaking of which, the transition from "House Of Balloons" to "Blinding Lights" was so perfect, and a lovely full-circle moment. Maybe he shouldn't have disclosed the amount of money he's spent - I feel like it set up higher expectations than it should.
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 8, 2021 16:19:16 GMT -5
Like yeah it could've been better, but it was a perfectly decent and enjoyable show especially so when you factor in the COVID regulations. Yeah we can factor in COVID, but when people look back 5-10 years from now they won't necessarily think about it. So, how it's viewed will ultimately be on its own merits, not with context. I have since watched it and I liked it. It was entertaining and I liked the staging. With what vocals I could hear they were good. The sound was my main issue. I don’t think this was a bad one at all. To me the general response seems to be more "meh" than "bad."
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Post by .indulgecountry on Feb 8, 2021 18:19:32 GMT -5
I still want Rihanna to do this thing. She could bring the energy and the hits. Was just saying this last night to SHOOTER. She's like the most obvious major pop star to pick imo.
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Post by back2blk on Feb 8, 2021 18:25:14 GMT -5
I still want Rihanna to do this thing. She could bring the energy and the hits. Was just saying this last night to SHOOTER . She's like the most obvious major pop star to pick imo. She's been picked already. But she doesn't want to be a sell out. And I hope she stands by this.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Feb 8, 2021 18:36:59 GMT -5
Well, Abel got a meme out of the whole thing, which in 2021 is about the highest compliment one can receive lol. All the decent halftime shows have at least one. (also Dan Rather is an adorable grandpa ) I don't think I have anything to say that hasn't been said—great opening, nice setlist (besides "Earned It"), but low energy and stage presence. Definitely can't compete with Beyoncé (for best) or Maroon 5 (for worst) lol. One interesting thing—I went on the bird app after the show and these two were trending here. People think it's time for Ariana Grande to do a halftime show and also apparently people remember Katy Perry's performance fondly? I love that performance but didn't expect people to bring it up. Katy's show aged SO WELL. I think it's a given now that past performers + singers many would like to see perform will trend after every show now, because social media is always going to compare, and it's not surprising to me at all that Katy is remembered well in those comparisons. It's just kind of funny to look back on it and remember that not many people at the time were going in expecting hers to be a great (or even good) show. I think I myself said 'she will lip-sync and not embarrass herself' and that was the extent of my expectations for her. After the show people acknowledged that she did well, but kind of begrudgingly. The fact that people couldn't/wouldn't try to put it down even after the two shows immediately following hers (from performers that people more readily give credit to for being great at what they do) was an early sign that it would hold up over time. Ariana could be a good show...she's not someone I necessarily see as the halftime 'type,' but then that's how a lot of people felt about Katy too. Female performers go much harder than the male ones because they have points to prove. The bar for the men is so low but we go in knowing the women will all be pitted against each other for stupid reasons, so they know going into it that they have to go all out to avoid being dragged. It occurred to me last night that Madonna's show hardly ever gets mentioned anymore which is interesting. Seems like she kind of got shoved into the 'forgettable' box along with the male baby boomer performers that we got post 2004 (which REALLY underscores just how impactful Prince's 2007 performance was; it's the only one from that time period anyone still talks about), despite having a show more comparable to the ones that came after her in terms of star power and expense. I agree that Madonna's isn't "the all-time best" but it was great for its time, and she really did reinvent the Halftime Show. I've seen her listed in the Top 5 on many publications. I've even seen her at #2. Her show had the wow factor. When the stage got sucked into the ground, that was a wow moment.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Feb 8, 2021 19:01:09 GMT -5
Was just saying this last night to SHOOTER . She's like the most obvious major pop star to pick imo. She's been picked already. But she doesn't want to be a sell out. And I hope she stands by this. What does that even mean lmao
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Post by kimberly on Feb 8, 2021 19:05:14 GMT -5
She's been picked already. But she doesn't want to be a sell out. And I hope she stands by this. What does that even mean lmao she was offered in 2019 or 2020, I believe, but she stands with Kaepernick and declined for solidarity. In her own words, from her Vogue cover story: "I couldn't dare do that. Who gains from that? Not my people. I just couldn't be a sellout." "I couldn't be an enabler. There's things within that organization that I do not agree with at all, and I was not about to go and be of service to them in any way."
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Post by Wolfy on Feb 8, 2021 19:07:08 GMT -5
Worldwide, Shakira was trending #3 on Twitter during the superbowl. Seeing how well-received their halftime show was, the NFL should do another double headliner halftime show. A halftime show of Ariana & Mariah could be fun.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2021 19:08:57 GMT -5
She's been picked already. But she doesn't want to be a sell out. And I hope she stands by this. What does that even mean lmao Riri turned down a 2019 invite in support of Colin Kaepernick (IIRC P!nk also reportedly turned that year down for similar reasons, but I don't think the P!nk rumor was confirmed). It's probably reasonable to assume she hasn't changed her mind and won't in the near future, and if she did some people might look at her a little sideways for it since her original reason for saying no was based on principles. edit - or what kim said. i'm slow.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Feb 8, 2021 19:20:14 GMT -5
Oh I didn't make the connection it was related to the anthem kneeling controversy. I was thinking literally what about being picked for 'halftime show' = sellout cause it's like a huge honor to be picked for such a platform like that imo, but I guess that makes sense!
In that case, I'm rooting for Carrie Underwood to get it next. She would be something a bit different from a genre-perspective but still a true bonafide Entertainer with a huge hits catalog... and she already has an 'in' since she sings the sportsball theme song already. Saw her from the pit in 2019 at my last arena concert before Ms. Rona killed live shows and she would absolutely slay that stage.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Feb 8, 2021 19:33:02 GMT -5
i agree that Carrie Underwood already slays those sports commercials, so she would be a shoe-in. Plus she is GP-friendly.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Feb 8, 2021 19:54:41 GMT -5
I love some Carrie's songs and her voice...but TBH, I don't think she's a great pick for the SB, especially alone.
IMO, Rihanna and Britney would be perfect, both are very unlikely, so I'm rooting for Ariana next...or even Kelly Clarkson.
...but I have a feeling Bieber will be next...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2021 20:09:23 GMT -5
Idc what yall say but we root for our own!🙌🏾 making Toronto (Scarborough to be specific) proud
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Post by wjr15 on Feb 8, 2021 20:33:58 GMT -5
If they're gonna do another female co-headliner, I really want to see Kelly Clarkson and Carrie Underwood perform together. The combination of their discography highlights, charisma, and vocals, it would be a really good show.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2021 21:10:14 GMT -5
I remember Carrie being rumored to have it and then having to turn it down suddenly when she found out she was pregnant right before they would have been ready to announce the headliner. I think that was the year we got Katy. I always wondered if they'd ever circle back around to her. The biggest disadvantage to country singers is that there isn't going to be great deal of familiarity with their music outside of their country fans. But I think Carrie would have been a good pick then and would be now. If I'm not mistaken she is well known within the country world for having great tours, so I'm sure that would translate to a good halftime.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Feb 8, 2021 22:04:20 GMT -5
I remember Carrie being rumored to have it and then having to turn it down suddenly when she found out she was pregnant right before they would have been ready to announce the headliner. I think that was the year we got Katy. I always wondered if they'd ever circle back around to her. The biggest disadvantage to country singers is that there isn't going to be great deal of familiarity with their music outside of their country fans. But I think Carrie would have been a good pick then and would be now. If I'm not mistaken she is well known within the country world for having great tours, so I'm sure that would translate to a good halftime. Like you said, there isn't going to be great deal of familiarity, and that's like one of the most important things. GP isn't really familiar with Carrie and her work, especially people outside of the US. I have no doubt that she's an amazing performer, but it's different when you perform in front of fans and people who paid the ticket AND the Super Bowl audience. At least 30% would not even give her a chance. imo
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2021 22:58:06 GMT -5
I remember Carrie being rumored to have it and then having to turn it down suddenly when she found out she was pregnant right before they would have been ready to announce the headliner. I think that was the year we got Katy. I always wondered if they'd ever circle back around to her. The biggest disadvantage to country singers is that there isn't going to be great deal of familiarity with their music outside of their country fans. But I think Carrie would have been a good pick then and would be now. If I'm not mistaken she is well known within the country world for having great tours, so I'm sure that would translate to a good halftime. Like you said, there isn't going to be great deal of familiarity, and that's like one of the most important things. GP isn't really familiar with Carrie and her work, especially people outside of the US. I have no doubt that she's an amazing performer, but it's different when you perform in front of fans and people who paid the ticket AND the Super Bowl audience. At least 30% would not even give her a chance. imo well fwiw I don't think a non-US crowd should be a priority consideration. It's definitely a boon, like with J. Lo/Shakira, but it's not a dealbreaker if you're not a WW star. I think Carrie would have been one of the few (maybe the only?) country singers who could get away with people not knowing much of her music, because most of the football watching audience still knows her from her singing the NBC Sunday night theme for so many years and would likely stick around. That said, I also think the time frame for her being a good choice could be getting narrower as time goes on. She should have gotten either Justin or M5's year.
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Post by Enigma. on Feb 9, 2021 2:00:15 GMT -5
I think Bieber or Ariana would do it next and both will bring bunch of friends (including each other).
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