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Post by itsatravesty on Sept 16, 2021 10:39:41 GMT -5
POP:16 17 CAMILA CABELLO Don't Go Yet 6485 6593 -108 14.653 -60 Spins -100 Bullet -0.226 Audience HOT AC:22 22 CAMILA CABELLO Don't Go Yet 1118 1019 99 3.557 +12 Spins +2 Bullet +0.086 Audience SPANISH CONTEMPORARY:36 36 CAMILA CABELLO Don't Go Yet 288 273 15 1.593 +6 Spins = Bullet +0.001 Audience TROPICAL LATIN:31 32 CAMILA CABELLO Don't Go Yet 172 168 4 0.159 +7 Spins +8 Bullet +0.024 Audience This really underwhelmed and never had a big moment. In some ironic way I feel like she's been consistently overshadowed this year by another group mate (Normani) She's the one with the radio budget and the movie but she doesn't have much goodwill with the public it seems
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Post by leonagwen on Sept 16, 2021 13:58:30 GMT -5
POP:16 17 CAMILA CABELLO Don't Go Yet 6485 6593 -108 14.653 -60 Spins -100 Bullet -0.226 Audience HOT AC:22 22 CAMILA CABELLO Don't Go Yet 1118 1019 99 3.557 +12 Spins +2 Bullet +0.086 Audience SPANISH CONTEMPORARY:36 36 CAMILA CABELLO Don't Go Yet 288 273 15 1.593 +6 Spins = Bullet +0.001 Audience TROPICAL LATIN:31 32 CAMILA CABELLO Don't Go Yet 172 168 4 0.159 +7 Spins +8 Bullet +0.024 Audience This really underwhelmed and never had a big moment. In some ironic way I feel like she's been consistently overshadowed this year by another group mate (Normani) She's the one with the radio budget and the movie but she doesn't have much goodwill with the public it seems Camila peaked at #15 on Pop radio, Normani omly peaked at #28 on Pop radio. At least Camila put on a good live performances at the VMa's unlike Normani who's performances was very awkward.
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Post by Elusive Chanteuse on Sept 16, 2021 14:17:06 GMT -5
This really underwhelmed and never had a big moment. In some ironic way I feel like she's been consistently overshadowed this year by another group mate (Normani) She's the one with the radio budget and the movie but she doesn't have much goodwill with the public it seems Camila peaked at #15 on Pop radio, Normani omly peaked at #28 on Pop radio. At least Camila put on a good live performances at the VMa's unlike Normani who's performances was very awkward. Don’t forget that there was a radio deal for Camila…and if you take culminated airplay, there’s not much difference since Normani is getting play at Rhythmic and Urban. Also, your opinion about the performances are objective, I know some others who think Camila did worse.
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Post by leonagwen on Sept 16, 2021 15:45:45 GMT -5
POP:16 17 CAMILA CABELLO Don't Go Yet 6485 6593 -108 14.653 -60 Spins -100 Bullet -0.226 Audience Psychofreak not you, the song, I hope it's on the way 💃 x 🐴 Where's the source?
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Post by handydandy on Sept 16, 2021 16:26:42 GMT -5
this bombed! no question about it. Mendes's single also bombing. BOTH has record deals which cause them to chart higher than they would have without. Streaming has been low vs their past hits and no one is talking about either of these as "hits" except delusional fans - their cringe relationship which has caused both of their careers to tumble dramatically from 2 summers ago when they were at the top of the mountain. They aren't quite at the bottom yet but are getting closer with every single that has failed worse than the previous one.
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Post by iamsorare on Sept 16, 2021 17:16:25 GMT -5
this bombed! no question about it. Mendes's single also bombing. BOTH has record deals which cause them to chart higher than they would have without. Streaming has been low vs their past hits and no one is talking about either of these as "hits" except delusional fans - their cringe relationship which has caused both of their careers to tumble dramatically from 2 summers ago when they were at the top of the mountain. They aren't quite at the bottom yet but are getting closer with every single that has failed worse than the previous one. at least camila had my oh my last year..a hit..shawn had many underperforming singles even before senorita..I don't know what will happen with Shawn but he can't recover
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Post by handydandy on Sept 16, 2021 17:38:43 GMT -5
this bombed! no question about it. Mendes's single also bombing. BOTH has record deals which cause them to chart higher than they would have without. Streaming has been low vs their past hits and no one is talking about either of these as "hits" except delusional fans - their cringe relationship which has caused both of their careers to tumble dramatically from 2 summers ago when they were at the top of the mountain. They aren't quite at the bottom yet but are getting closer with every single that has failed worse than the previous one. at least camila had my oh my last year..a hit..shawn had many underperforming singles even before senorita..I don't know what will happen with Shawn but he can't recover Checking streaming and Hot 100 - My oh My(2020) has over 450 million streams and peaked #12 on Hot 100 - Wonder single released earlier this year has over 360 million streams and peaked #18 on 100 so I don't really see a huge difference in both these singles and Before Senorita - If I can't have you peaked at #2 and has 750 million streams so not sure what singles were "underperforming B4 Senorita"?? None the less they are both tanking together and not sure if either will "recover" and both still so young. Time will tell
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Post by iamsorare on Sept 16, 2021 17:59:39 GMT -5
at least camila had my oh my last year..a hit..shawn had many underperforming singles even before senorita..I don't know what will happen with Shawn but he can't recover Checking streaming and Hot 100 - My oh My(2020) has over 450 million streams and peaked #12 on Hot 100 - Wonder single released earlier this year has over 360 million streams and peaked #18 on 100 so I don't really see a huge difference in both these singles and Before Senorita - If I can't have you peaked at #2 and has 750 million streams so not sure what singles were "underperforming B4 Senorita"?? None the less they are both tanking together and not sure if either will "recover" and both still so young. Time will tell my oh my was the 5th single of the era, wonder was the lead 'hype' single.. My oh my #12 on hot 100, wonder #18 on hot 100..My oh my was number one on radio,wonder peaked in top 20...my oh my has 492 Million streams on Spotify right now,wonder has 340 Million streams on Spotify now..My oh My is 2x platinum, wonder has not certifications yet.my oh my spent 27 weeks on hot 100..wonder only spent 11 weeks on hot 100..shawn's singles 'nervous' and 'lost in japan' flopped on the charts back in 2018..
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Post by itsatravesty on Sept 16, 2021 18:20:36 GMT -5
This really underwhelmed and never had a big moment. In some ironic way I feel like she's been consistently overshadowed this year by another group mate (Normani) She's the one with the radio budget and the movie but she doesn't have much goodwill with the public it seems Camila peaked at #15 on Pop radio, Normani omly peaked at #28 on Pop radio. At least Camila put on a good live performances at the VMa's unlike Normani who's performances was very awkward. Normani along with a few others dominated the VMAs which is insane since she was a last minute addition. I haven't heard anything good about Camila's performance which was forgettable. She did make a "worst performance list" and Normani's performance was reviewed better by almost every major outlet. It was also more popular on YouTube and trended. This had more pop radio play but significantly underperformed Wild Side on Billboard which is a very revealing thing to highlight. Wild Side has been steadily gaining airplay since the VMAs while this collapses and/or stalls so that says it all.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Sept 16, 2021 18:30:49 GMT -5
all three underperformed (Camila, Normani and Shawn), let's move on now.
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Post by itsatravesty on Sept 16, 2021 18:45:02 GMT -5
all three underperformed (Camila, Normani and Shawn), let's move on now. Normani overperformed. She's doing an R&B song that peaked 30 spots higher than Camila's song who's had multiple number ones. This is the underperformance. Let's face it.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Sept 16, 2021 18:51:11 GMT -5
all three underperformed (Camila, Normani and Shawn), let's move on now. Normani overperformed. She's doing an R&B song that peaked 30 spots higher than Camila's song who's had multiple number ones. This is the underperformance. That's a fact. Cardi B is on the song, that's a fact too.
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Post by itsatravesty on Sept 16, 2021 18:52:29 GMT -5
Normani overperformed. She's doing an R&B song that peaked 30 spots higher than Camila's song who's had multiple number ones. This is the underperformance. That's a fact. Cardi B is on the song, that's a fact too. Pretty sure Cardi B and Ed Sheeran did a song with Camila that also underperformed Wild Side similar to how Don't Go Yet is.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Sept 16, 2021 18:59:14 GMT -5
Cardi B is on the song, that's a fact too. Pretty sure Cardi B and Ed Sheeran did a song with Camila that also underperformed Wild Side similar to how Don't Go Yet is. yeah, let's compare Sheeran's 5th or 6th single from his collab album to Normani's lead(?) single and first song in 1,5/2 years. Wild Side debuted in the top 20 because of Cardi B, let's be real, just like Lizzo's Rumours debuted in the top 5.
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Post by Choco on Sept 16, 2021 19:43:55 GMT -5
Y'all arguing about flops vs flops. None of those three acts are gonna sustain a long career on songs that perform like "Don't Go Yet", "Summer of Whatever" and "Wild Side".
No one overshadowed Camila, the song didn't connect. She promoted. She needs another song ASAP.
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Post by leonagwen on Sept 16, 2021 21:07:48 GMT -5
Y'all arguing about flops vs flops. None of those three acts are gonna sustain a long career on songs that perform like "Don't Go Yet", "Summer of Whatever" and "Wild Side". No one overshadowed Camila, the song didn't connect. She promoted. She needs another song ASAP. I will die if Don't Go Yet gets a +50 update tomorrow.
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Post by itsatravesty on Sept 17, 2021 5:11:12 GMT -5
Y'all arguing about flops vs flops. None of those three acts are gonna sustain a long career on songs that perform like "Don't Go Yet", "Summer of Whatever" and "Wild Side". No one overshadowed Camila, the song didn't connect. She promoted. She needs another song ASAP. Normani overshadowed Camila at the VMAs and she was a last minute addition. Normani just got the third highest peaking song of her career with a top 14 hit. Camila is on the decline on the other hand. Not sure how pretending a top 15 r&b song from an artist pre album and a top 50 underperformance after the exposure of two highly promoted albums, a pop radio deal, and a movie are the same . It’s a defense mechanism I guess but their careers are clearly going in opposite directions momentum-wise
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Post by itsatravesty on Sept 17, 2021 5:13:49 GMT -5
I wonder how this is doing on early callouts
I suspect none to well
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Post by leonagwen on Sept 17, 2021 5:25:36 GMT -5
Y'all arguing about flops vs flops. None of those three acts are gonna sustain a long career on songs that perform like "Don't Go Yet", "Summer of Whatever" and "Wild Side". No one overshadowed Camila, the song didn't connect. She promoted. She needs another song ASAP. Normani overshadowed Camila at the VMAs and she was a last minute addition. Normani just got the third highest peaking song of her career with a top 14 hit. Camila is on the decline on the other hand. Not sure how pretending a top 15 r&b song from an artist pre album and a top 50 underperformance after the exposure of two highly promoted albums, a pop radio deal, and a movie are the same . It’s a defense mechanism I guess but their careers are clearly going in opposite directions momentum-wise You need to stop trying to compare Normani to Camila! Camila has 5 airplay #1s, Normani only has 2 and both are duets.Normani has no momentum at all, Wild Side flopped in the mid 20s on Pop. Camila is very active in social media always posting stuff on Twitter and Instagram everyday and she starred in the Cinderella movie which did decent for a movie that wasn't released in theatres. Normani hardly ever posts on social media. There's already a rumored new single for Camila coming out in a couple of weeks. No sign of a new single for Normani and most likely won't be one any time soon.
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Post by istersay2000 on Sept 17, 2021 6:40:53 GMT -5
Psychofreak not you, the song, I hope it's on the way 💃 x 🐴 Where's the source? a few different insiders, and
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Post by leonagwen on Sept 17, 2021 6:59:19 GMT -5
a few different insiders, and Doesn't tell me anything, can't read the article.
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Post by istersay2000 on Sept 17, 2021 7:13:59 GMT -5
a few different insiders, and Doesn't tell me anything, can't read the article. What? did you not watch her VMA performance, that's a screencap
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Post by itsatravesty on Sept 17, 2021 7:34:07 GMT -5
Normani overshadowed Camila at the VMAs and she was a last minute addition. Normani just got the third highest peaking song of her career with a top 14 hit. Camila is on the decline on the other hand. Not sure how pretending a top 15 r&b song from an artist pre album and a top 50 underperformance after the exposure of two highly promoted albums, a pop radio deal, and a movie are the same . It’s a defense mechanism I guess but their careers are clearly going in opposite directions momentum-wise You need to stop trying to compare Normani to Camila! Camila has 5 airplay #1s, Normani only has 2 and both are duets.Normani has no momentum at all, Wild Side flopped in the mid 20s on Pop. Camila is very active in social media always posting stuff on Twitter and Instagram everyday and she starred in the Cinderella movie which did decent for a movie that wasn't released in theatres. Normani hardly ever posts on social media. There's already a rumored new single for Camila coming out in a couple of weeks. No sign of a new single for Normani and most likely won't be one any time soon. Camila has anti momentum. Her movie was a laughing stock. This song bombed. Didn’t reach top 40 on billboard despite a radio deal. No interest Normani has been upstaging her at every event and on billboard That’s just factual In terms of collaborations, Camila hasn’t released a solo top 40 hit since 2017. She has only 1 after two whole albums. NBTS. Even that needed a collab because the big pop radio push wasn’t enough This song is dead on pop radio which was all it had. She has struggled to keep up with the success of even her less promoted peers She is not a natural star clearly. What we’re seeing now is that it can only be forced for so long
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Post by leonagwen on Sept 17, 2021 7:41:11 GMT -5
You need to stop trying to compare Normani to Camila! Camila has 5 airplay #1s, Normani only has 2 and both are duets.Normani has no momentum at all, Wild Side flopped in the mid 20s on Pop. Camila is very active in social media always posting stuff on Twitter and Instagram everyday and she starred in the Cinderella movie which did decent for a movie that wasn't released in theatres. Normani hardly ever posts on social media. There's already a rumored new single for Camila coming out in a couple of weeks. No sign of a new single for Normani and most likely won't be one any time soon. Camila has anti momentum. Her movie was a laughing stock culturally. This song tanked and didn’t reach top 40 on billboard Normani has been upstaging her at every event and on billboard Her number ones on pop radio were all forced and all part of some sort of collaboration This song is dead on pop radio which was all it had. She has struggled to keep up with the success of even her less promoted peers She is not a natural star and you can only force it for so long Normani’s song is more dead on Pop than Camila's song. Camila is also doing good on Hot AC, Latin and Spanish. And by the way Don't Go Yet only got a -11 on Pop today so at least it's hanging in there.
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Post by itsatravesty on Sept 17, 2021 7:47:24 GMT -5
Camila has anti momentum. Her movie was a laughing stock culturally. This song tanked and didn’t reach top 40 on billboard Normani has been upstaging her at every event and on billboard Her number ones on pop radio were all forced and all part of some sort of collaboration This song is dead on pop radio which was all it had. She has struggled to keep up with the success of even her less promoted peers She is not a natural star and you can only force it for so long Normani’s song is more dead on Pop than Camila's song. Camila is also doing good on Hot AC, Latin and Spanish. And by the way Don't Go Yet only got a -11 on Pop today so at least it's hanging in there. Camila’s song is dead in general. It’s not top 100 on any US consumption platform It’s in the 90s on Billboard It peaked below 40 with a radio deal, decent TTH, and multiple televised performances It’s a bomb It’s even below Wild Side on US iTunes
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Post by divasummer on Sept 17, 2021 7:50:18 GMT -5
Lol at everyone saying stop comparing these 2 ladies but keep doing it. There songs and images right now seem like the furthest thing from each other. It looks like Normani is taking a more Urban approach and Camilla is going more pop. There both underperforming at pop and doing decently at other formats so what’s the argument anyways??
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Sept 17, 2021 7:51:51 GMT -5
Normani’s song is more dead on Pop than Camila's song. Camila is also doing good on Hot AC, Latin and Spanish. And by the way Don't Go Yet only got a -11 on Pop today so at least it's hanging in there. Camila’s song is dead in general. It’s not top 100 on any US consumption platform It’s in the 90s on Billboard It peaked below 40 with a radio deal, decent TTH, and multiple televised performances It’s a bomb Wild Side is above on iTunes even with less radio you know there's a Wild Side thread on Pulse, right? also, stop comparing female artists.
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Post by leonagwen on Sept 17, 2021 8:01:21 GMT -5
Normani’s song is more dead on Pop than Camila's song. Camila is also doing good on Hot AC, Latin and Spanish. And by the way Don't Go Yet only got a -11 on Pop today so at least it's hanging in there. Camila’s song is dead in general. It’s not top 100 on any US consumption platform It’s in the 90s on Billboard It peaked below 40 with a radio deal, decent TTH, and multiple televised performances It’s a bomb It’s even below Wild Side on US iTunes Camila is in a much better place in her career right now than Normani is and if you don't believe that then you're delusional. Wake up! See the reality!
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Post by itsatravesty on Sept 17, 2021 8:03:33 GMT -5
Camila’s song is dead in general. It’s not top 100 on any US consumption platform It’s in the 90s on Billboard It peaked below 40 with a radio deal, decent TTH, and multiple televised performances It’s a bomb Wild Side is above on iTunes even with less radio you know there's a Wild Side thread on Pulse, right? also, stop comparing female artists. Fair enough. As a note: it’s not an out-of-the-blue comparison. They became famous together for 5 years before Camila left. Her parents literally tweeted the group was mediocre. The comparison is built into her brand. That’s probably why the Leona user added negativity to the Wild Side thread when it was released At any rate The spin count is decreasing but the drops in audience impression are even worse
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Sept 17, 2021 8:04:54 GMT -5
#LeaveLeonagwenalone
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