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Post by jjose712 on Aug 28, 2021 14:03:00 GMT -5
You can tell from Shawn's interviews he's highly insecure and obsessed with fame. That's a recipe for not allowing yourself to grow or take risks, for fear of failure. When you are a teen artist you need to be open to changes because your fans are going to change. It's different for artist who are big with adult audiences, Adele or Sam Smith could sing the same type of song all the time and they will keep big part of their audience, that doesn't happen with a teen artist. They could love your teen songs all their lives but they won't continue with you if you don't grow up with them
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Post by spiritboy on Aug 28, 2021 17:21:39 GMT -5
Can he recover and score a big hit again?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2021 19:24:01 GMT -5
Perfect choice for him, he needed an uptempo and not something North American sounding. I really like it. Why not? 🤔 Because it's a very very bad idea to take recreational drugs when you already have a mental problem. Drugs unless they are prescribed by a doctor have an awful tendency to make your mental problems way worse Omg. I can’t. But thanks for your insightful response.
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Post by hitmakaontharise on Aug 28, 2021 21:01:21 GMT -5
Can he recover and score a big hit again? if he couldn’t with JB there’s no hope 😂
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Post by johnm1120 on Aug 28, 2021 21:56:39 GMT -5
You can tell from Shawn's interviews he's highly insecure and obsessed with fame. That's a recipe for not allowing yourself to grow or take risks, for fear of failure. When you are a teen artist you need to be open to changes because your fans are going to change. It's different for artist who are big with adult audiences, Adele or Sam Smith could sing the same type of song all the time and they will keep big part of their audience, that doesn't happen with a teen artist. They could love your teen songs all their lives but they won't continue with you if you don't grow up with them *coughAvrilLavignecough* Can he recover and score a big hit again? if he couldn’t with JB there’s no hope 😂 Not necessarily. There's a big history of superstar collaborations underperforming.
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jjose712
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Post by jjose712 on Aug 29, 2021 5:46:50 GMT -5
Because it's a very very bad idea to take recreational drugs when you already have a mental problem. Drugs unless they are prescribed by a doctor have an awful tendency to make your mental problems way worse Omg. I can’t. But thanks for your insightful response. Please, don't repress yourself and enlight me
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2021 11:56:14 GMT -5
^ There's pretty substantial research that the psilocybins in mushrooms can have a great impact on mental health, I know plenty of people who microdose. Meanwhile can't Maroon 5 or someone throw him a reject so he can get back on track? This shouldn't be so hard for him. The ironic thing is that if he were to come out of the closet IMO it would actually launch his career
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 8, 2021 5:59:30 GMT -5
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Post by Choco on Sept 8, 2021 11:32:13 GMT -5
Me at this song:
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Post by kcdawg13 on Sept 8, 2021 14:16:22 GMT -5
I don't know why he didn't just release "Teach Me How To Love" and had Camila jump on and do a steamy music video or some shit, it would've been a hit
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Post by Taylor. on Sept 8, 2021 14:51:05 GMT -5
It is kind of interesting how quickly the GP moved on from him (and Camila). Remember when he was debuting multiple songs at #2 (#1 without OTR) two summers ago with huge initial streams?
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Post by kcdawg13 on Sept 8, 2021 15:23:04 GMT -5
It is kind of interesting how quickly the GP moved on from him (and Camila). Remember when he was debuting multiple songs at #2 (#1 without OTR) two summers ago with huge initial streams? He kept on releasing music every year since his first hit and I think once he finally took a year off the GP realized they didn't miss him, same thing with Camila.
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Post by Choco on Sept 8, 2021 20:04:46 GMT -5
It is kind of interesting how quickly the GP moved on from him (and Camila). Remember when he was debuting multiple songs at #2 (#1 without OTR) two summers ago with huge initial streams? He kept on releasing music every year since his first hit and I think once he finally took a year off the GP realized they didn't miss him, same thing with Camila. He didn't take a year off lol, we got that Wonder album last year. It was just very boring and people moved on.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Sept 8, 2021 20:42:45 GMT -5
He kept on releasing music every year since his first hit and I think once he finally took a year off the GP realized they didn't miss him, same thing with Camila. He didn't take a year off lol, we got that Wonder album last year. It was just very boring and people moved on. I mean before Wonder, after Senorita he took a break and came back late last year and the album came and disappeared.
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Post by Choco on Sept 8, 2021 20:56:57 GMT -5
"Señorita" and "If I Can't Have You" came out Summer 2019, then he dropped Wonder in 2020. It wouldn't have been a big deal if that album had done well but the average listener probably thinks "Señorita" is the last song he dropped.
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Post by kimberly on Sept 8, 2021 21:32:48 GMT -5
happy to see this stalling. #20 is way more than what it deserves.
Shawn peaked in 2018-2019. Between "In My Blood" earning him his first Grammy nod (for SOTY, too!) and "Señorita" smashing, he had a solid run.
after "Señorita," their relationship became his (and Camila's) whole identity. I'd think that has been a turn off for a lot of people, too.
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Post by mcsteamy on Sept 8, 2021 21:58:42 GMT -5
It's only a turn off because people see right thru that bullshit. Even qhen they kiss everything seems so off.
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 10, 2021 5:56:54 GMT -5
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Post by crofts1 on Sept 10, 2021 9:15:32 GMT -5
He should have tried to salvage Wonder era promoting Monster plus a 3rd single. Gave up too soon and the era ended on a low note. As a result he had no momentum going into this song. He shouldn't drop his own music until he gets a hit as featured artist, now things look worse.
But I'm afraid this is easier said than done. If someone has a potential hit it's unlikely he's their first choice :(
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