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Post by degen on Dec 15, 2021 17:31:33 GMT -5
This will be slowing down drastically and probably get killed by the freeze. Time to recharge until next fall for her next 3 week era.
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Post by Choco on Dec 15, 2021 20:24:36 GMT -5
I know you're trolling but no way we don't get another re-recording before summer.
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Dec 15, 2021 22:13:02 GMT -5
I know you're trolling but no way we don't get another re-recording before summer. 1989 will break records
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Post by Choco on Dec 15, 2021 22:22:45 GMT -5
I know you're trolling but no way we don't get another re-recording before summer. 1989 will break records Maybe? Do we think any of the songs can have an "All Too Well" moment? The gems were all already singles.
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Post by Az Paynter on Dec 15, 2021 23:11:30 GMT -5
Give 'I Know Places' or 'I Wish You Would' its moment!
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Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on Dec 16, 2021 0:18:41 GMT -5
Maybe? Do we think any of the songs can have an "All Too Well" moment? The gems were all already singles. I think "Style" may have a moment, but not ATW level. The only song really smashing is "Enchanted", thats a beloved fan cut AND its viral.
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on Dec 16, 2021 0:25:18 GMT -5
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Post by aznsinger on Dec 16, 2021 2:02:57 GMT -5
She will definitely make a vault song an official single from 1989 though.. maybe feature another pop star, etc.
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Post by irice22 on Dec 16, 2021 2:45:33 GMT -5
She will definitely make a vault song an official single from 1989 though.. maybe feature another pop star, etc. This 100%. She needs to bring back Max Martin for 1989 though.
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Dec 16, 2021 4:24:24 GMT -5
Maybe? Do we think any of the songs can have an "All Too Well" moment? The gems were all already singles. Someone already said it, but she needs to release a Vault song as the lead single with a MV. These mini-eras are so fun because she gets to release material that she has “outgrown” and get absolutely no flack for it. If she wants to release a bubble-gum pop song from the vault, no one will judge because it’s technically from 2014 and doesn’t reflect her current material. I think Message In a Bottle is cute enough, but I’m hoping they have Blank Space level bops in the vault that they can unleash. 1989 will be carried by the singles but a new lead can be a real moment for anyone craving pop perfection Taylor.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Dec 16, 2021 9:09:39 GMT -5
POP: 20 19 TAYLOR SWIFT Message In A Bottle (Taylor's Version) 5319 4816 503 15.637
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HOT AC: 13 12 TAYLOR SWIFT Message In A Bottle (Taylor's Version) 2595 2173 422 8.132
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Post by fearlessarrow on Dec 17, 2021 7:07:54 GMT -5
POP: 21 18 TAYLOR SWIFT Message In A Bottle (Taylor's Version) 5370 4902 468 15.692
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HOT AC: 13 12 TAYLOR SWIFT Message In A Bottle (Taylor's Version) 2646 2223 423 8.392
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Post by fearlessarrow on Dec 18, 2021 7:08:29 GMT -5
POP: 21 18 TAYLOR SWIFT Message In A Bottle (Taylor's Version) 5447 4913 534 15.989
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HOT AC: 13 12 TAYLOR SWIFT Message In A Bottle (Taylor's Version) 2676 2276 400 8.445
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Post by Envoirment on Dec 18, 2021 14:14:12 GMT -5
I hope they release a music video in the new year and push this hard. I think it could become a big hit post-Christmas.
The next re-recordings likely won't be released for a good few months or so. So I don't see any harm in pushing this in the new year. Especially with how well the Red (Taylor's Version) is doing in the charts.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Dec 19, 2021 7:11:02 GMT -5
Top 50 on AC!
POP: 20 18 TAYLOR SWIFT Message In A Bottle (Taylor's Version) 5487 4964 523 15.929
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HOT AC: 13 12 TAYLOR SWIFT Message In A Bottle (Taylor's Version) 2699 2360 339 8.545
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AC: 65 45 TAYLOR SWIFT Message In A Bottle (Taylor's Version) 55 24 31 0.105
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 19, 2021 7:53:32 GMT -5
Is this in the top 200 on Spotify? I know that is clogged with holiday songs, but top 20 airplay at Top 40 is decent exposure.
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Post by #brayden on Dec 19, 2021 9:00:09 GMT -5
Is this in the top 200 on Spotify? I know that is clogged with holiday songs, but top 20 airplay at Top 40 is decent exposure. It's not. It hasn't been Top 200 since album release week I believe.
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Post by leonagwen on Dec 19, 2021 9:23:58 GMT -5
Hitting a brickwall on Pop airplay like her other hits in the last couple of years.
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Post by Choco on Dec 19, 2021 14:07:17 GMT -5
She will definitely make a vault song an official single from 1989 though.. maybe feature another pop star, etc. This 100%. She needs to bring back Max Martin for 1989 though. This assumes 1989 TV isn't already recorded. And Max wasn't invited for Wildest Dreams. He ain't gonna be there unless it's some writing credit from a Vault track.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Dec 19, 2021 15:06:27 GMT -5
Is this in the top 200 on Spotify? I know that is clogged with holiday songs, but top 20 airplay at Top 40 is decent exposure. It's not. It hasn't been Top 200 since album release week I believe. The last time it was top 200 on Spotify is November 30, so that would actually be 2.5 weeks after the album release date.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Dec 19, 2021 21:21:18 GMT -5
SUNDAY PUBLISHED UPDATE (12/19):POP:20 18 TAYLOR SWIFT Message In A Bottle (Taylor's Version) 5489 4964 525 15.939 {Taylor Swift's Top 40/M peaks to date}#1: "I Knew You Were Trouble." (x6) #1: "Bad Blood" (x6) (Taylor Swift feat. Kendrick Lamar) #1: "Blank Space" (x5) #1: "Style" (x3) #1: "Shake It Off" (x2) #1: "Wildest Dreams" (x2) #1: "Love Story" (x1) #1: "You Belong With Me" (x1) #1: "Look What You Made Me Do" (x1) #1: "Delicate" (x1) #2: "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" #2: "I Don't Wanna Live Forever" (ZAYN & Taylor Swift) #6: "ME!" (Taylor Swift feat. Brendon Urie of Panic! at the Disco) #7: "Teardrops On My Guitar" #7: "Two Is Better Than One" (Boys Like Girls feat. Taylor Swift) #9: "You Need to Calm Down" #10: "22" #10: "End Game" (Taylor Swift feat. Ed Sheeran & Future) #11: "Mine" #11: "...Ready for It?" #12: "Fifteen" #12: "Back to December" #13: "Everything Has Changed" (Taylor Swift feat. Ed Sheeran) #13: "Out of the Woods" #14: "Lover" #16: "New Romantics" #16: "willow" #17: "cardigan" #18: "Message in a Bottle (Taylor's Version) (From the Vault)" #19: "Our Song" #19: "Today Was a Fairytale" #20: "Eyes Open" #20: "The Man" #21: "The Story of Us" #22: "Both of Us" (B.o.B. feat. Taylor Swift) #45: "Gorgeous" *not an official radio single #45: "All Too Well (Taylor's Version)" *not an official radio single #49: "Christmas Tree Farm" #50: "Renegade" (Big Red Machine feat. Taylor Swift)
Chart run: 46-39-25-20-20- 18- HOT AC:13 12 TAYLOR SWIFT Message In A Bottle (Taylor's Version) 2699 2360 339 8.545 Chart run: 41-26-17-15-13- 12- AC:65 45 TAYLOR SWIFT Message In A Bottle (Taylor's Version) 55 24 31 0.105 Chart run: 45- POP:45 48 TAYLOR SWIFT All Too Well (Taylor's Version) 377 433 -56 1.085 Chart run: 45-48- HOT AC:46 48 TAYLOR SWIFT All Too Well (Taylor's Version) 138 91 47 0.937 Chart run: 46-48- COUNTRY:39 39 TAYLOR SWIFT I Bet You Think About Me 967 893 74 2.558 Chart run: 35-(54)-46-41-39-39- HOT AC:45 50 TAYLOR SWIFT I Knew You Were Trouble (Taylor's Version) 96 96 0 0.677 Chart run: 49-48- 45-50-
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Post by #brayden on Dec 19, 2021 21:56:44 GMT -5
It's not. It hasn't been Top 200 since album release week I believe. The last time it was top 200 on Spotify is November 30, so that would actually be 2.5 weeks after the album release date. If we're talking Spotify US, yes. I was talking globally... which it looks like I'm technically still wrong since it's last day on that chart was November 20. :)
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Post by fearlessarrow on Dec 20, 2021 7:09:27 GMT -5
POP: 19 18 TAYLOR SWIFT Message In A Bottle (Taylor's Version) 5502 5089 413 15.812
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HOT AC: 12 12 TAYLOR SWIFT Message In A Bottle (Taylor's Version) 2711 2435 276 8.677
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AC: 64 42 TAYLOR SWIFT Message In A Bottle (Taylor's Version) 62 26 36 0.114
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Post by Choco on Dec 20, 2021 9:43:22 GMT -5
Xmas slowdown. I wouldn't be shocked at either scenario: it could die out or rebound hard.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Dec 21, 2021 12:08:21 GMT -5
POP: 19 19 TAYLOR SWIFT Message In A Bottle (Taylor's Version) 5543 5183 360 15.956
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HOT AC: 12 13 TAYLOR SWIFT Message In A Bottle (Taylor's Version) 2739 2484 255 8.766
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AC: 65 37 TAYLOR SWIFT Message In A Bottle (Taylor's Version) 70 27 43 0.129
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Post by fearlessarrow on Dec 22, 2021 7:11:52 GMT -5
POP: 19 19 TAYLOR SWIFT Message In A Bottle (Taylor's Version) 5535 5247 288 15.898
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HOT AC: 12 13 TAYLOR SWIFT Message In A Bottle (Taylor's Version) 2751 2548 203 8.824
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AC: 59 37 TAYLOR SWIFT Message In A Bottle (Taylor's Version) 72 31 41 0.129
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Post by irice22 on Dec 22, 2021 16:37:46 GMT -5
This 100%. She needs to bring back Max Martin for 1989 though. This assumes 1989 TV isn't already recorded. And Max wasn't invited for Wildest Dreams. He ain't gonna be there unless it's some writing credit from a Vault track. Could it be that it was Max Martin who declined an invite? He's a huge name too and I would understand if he'd like to move onto new material rather then re-mix old songs. Now that there was an unexpectedly massive response to the Red re-release, he might have more incentive to return.
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Post by Choco on Dec 22, 2021 20:41:11 GMT -5
This assumes 1989 TV isn't already recorded. And Max wasn't invited for Wildest Dreams. He ain't gonna be there unless it's some writing credit from a Vault track. Could it be that it was Max Martin who declined an invite? He's a huge name too and I would understand if he'd like to move onto new material rather then re-mix old songs. Now that there was an unexpectedly massive response to the Red re-release, he might have more incentive to return. Rumour has it he wanted to charge full price and Taylor's team decided it wasn't worth it. But take it with a huge grain of salt, it's only been whispered on a few Twitter circles without any actual evidence.
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Post by kmbgs on Dec 22, 2021 23:07:32 GMT -5
Why should he take a discount? I wouldn't either, but this song remains literally like, the best thing she's released in years so she didn't need him.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Dec 23, 2021 7:08:59 GMT -5
POP: 19 19 TAYLOR SWIFT Message In A Bottle (Taylor's Version) 5492 5325 167 15.788
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HOT AC: 12 13 TAYLOR SWIFT Message In A Bottle (Taylor's Version) 2744 2595 149 8.884
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AC: 58 37 TAYLOR SWIFT Message In A Bottle (Taylor's Version) 73 34 39 0.129
+1 Spin -2 Bullet = Audience
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