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Post by giovannina on Feb 12, 2007 11:47:18 GMT -5
Worst: only the NASAL FLATTS really, what a way to make a classic sound like crap. Yeah, I forgot to post about that. Rascal Flatts did not do a good job with Hotel California. I missed that part of the show, but I think there are a few songs that probably are better left 'un-covered' by later artists. I can't imagine another version of Hotel California measuring up to the Eagles'. And I'd sure hate for radio to start playing a cover of it in lieu of the original.
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Post by popmusicaddict on Feb 12, 2007 11:48:57 GMT -5
Why are people hating on JT and saying he was egotistical lol!? He got his ego smashed with a hammer tonight are you kidding me??? He won like the 2 minorist grammies you can ever get so of course it wasn't televised..something like best dance collabo lol and some rap duo preformance bs AND he had to sing with some random pick up chick (she was good though). How much does his ego need to be deflated? Did you see his face when he wasn't winning ANY of the major categories he was up for haha.
I'm glad JT and Timbo got shut out, he needed an ego check and got it served by none other than The Dixie Chicks and Blidge. I still think Chicks won too many though, there was a lot of chart toppers that deserved major category grammies...*cough Shakira cough Nelly cough Natasha* , pardon me...
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Post by giovannina on Feb 12, 2007 11:52:39 GMT -5
I agree, but why you say that?lol Because the wrong people keep winning. Black Eyed Peas, Crustina Aguilera, Red Hot Chili Peppers, John Mayer, Carrie Underwood, Madonna and the Dixie Chicks won far too many awards. Because the right people don't win. Death Cab For Cutie should have won Best Long Form Music Video. Sarah McLachlan, Imogen Heap etc. didn't win either. Because it's predictable. B'Day for Best Contemporary R&B Album. 'Nuff said. Because there are horrendous people like Sharkira and XXXTina performing. Who'd want to watch that? I certainly didn't bother watching. Although... The Flaming Lips won at least one, and that was nice. I do think it's a bit tedious for a handful of artists to walk away with so many awards every year, especially when so much seems to depend on promo and publicity (who's the highest profile artist). I got missed most of the show, but glad to hear the Lips picked up an award. They're a trip. *g*
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Post by Filthy Pop on Feb 12, 2007 11:53:51 GMT -5
I remember everyone saying that the Grammy's were reluctant to give Carrie stage time but with her and Rascall Flatts she was on the stage for nearly 10 minutes.
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Post by currentoptions on Feb 12, 2007 11:56:50 GMT -5
Why are people hating on JT and saying he was egotistical lol!? He got his ego smashed with a hammer tonight are you kidding me??? He won like the 2 minorist grammies you can ever get so of course it wasn't televised..something like best dance collabo lol and some rap duo preformance bs AND he had to sing with some random pick up chick (she was good though). How much does his ego need to be deflated? Did you see his face when he wasn't winning ANY of the major categories he was up for haha. I'm glad JT and Timbo got shut out, he needed an ego check and got it served by none other than The Dixie Chicks and Blidge. I still think Chicks won too many though, there was a lot of chart toppers that deserved major category grammies...*cough Shakira cough Nelly cough Natasha* , pardon me... JT did think he was going to win. He shouldn't have been nominated. I am sure the Janet and Prince effect hurt him. Plus he cannot sing.
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Post by popmusicaddict on Feb 12, 2007 11:58:46 GMT -5
Because the wrong people keep winning. Black Eyed Peas, Crustina Aguilera, Red Hot Chili Peppers, John Mayer, Carrie Underwood, Madonna and the Dixie Chicks won far too many awards. Because the right people don't win. Death Cab For Cutie should have won Best Long Form Music Video. Sarah McLachlan, Imogen Heap etc. didn't win either. Because it's predictable. B'Day for Best Contemporary R&B Album. 'Nuff said. Because there are horrendous people like Sharkira and XXXTina performing. Who'd want to watch that? I certainly didn't bother watching. Although... The Flaming Lips won at least one, and that was nice. I do think it's a bit tedious for a handful of artists to walk away with so many awards every year, especially when so much seems to depend on promo and publicity (who's the highest profile artist). I got missed most of the show, but glad to hear the Lips picked up an award. They're a trip. *g* Win to many awards? Uhh All those artists you mentioned won 1 and 2 max except for the Dixie Chicks, they took home ALL major categories. BEP won 1..wow, Christina Aguilera won 1..wow, Carrie Underwood won 1 big category and 1 extremely minor one..wow, RHCP won 1..., John Mayer won 2 and they weren't even televised. The only one of those that won too many were the Chicks, ALL TELEVISED, so I don't see how Juhn can say they won too many. Aguilera and Underwood definately deserved theirs man, their abundant ONE award
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Post by countrygirl40 on Feb 12, 2007 12:00:19 GMT -5
I remember everyone saying that the Grammy's were reluctant to give Carrie stage time but with her and Rascall Flatts she was on the stage for nearly 10 minutes. I think that people who are jealous made assumptions that that was the case about Carrie, I mean come on she won BNA naysayers so I think they just wanted to showcase Country's roots. I would have loved to have seen her perform Wasted however but I thought the Carrie/Flatts segment was by far the most entertaining and Boy Carrie can sing anything.
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Post by popmusicaddict on Feb 12, 2007 12:02:21 GMT -5
Why are people hating on JT and saying he was egotistical lol!? He got his ego smashed with a hammer tonight are you kidding me??? He won like the 2 minorist grammies you can ever get so of course it wasn't televised..something like best dance collabo lol and some rap duo preformance bs AND he had to sing with some random pick up chick (she was good though). How much does his ego need to be deflated? Did you see his face when he wasn't winning ANY of the major categories he was up for haha. I'm glad JT and Timbo got shut out, he needed an ego check and got it served by none other than The Dixie Chicks and Blidge. I still think Chicks won too many though, there was a lot of chart toppers that deserved major category grammies...*cough Shakira cough Nelly cough Natasha* , pardon me... JT did think he was going to win. He shouldn't have been nominated. I am sure the Janet and Prince effect hurt him. Plus he cannot sing. Hell forget just JT that whole damn arrogant song hurt ALL 3 of em IMO. Between the 3 supposide "Biggest things in 2006" how many grammies did all 3 of these "pop icons" bring home? ***ZERO MAJOR CATEGORIES*** and what 3 very minor ones, between all 3 of em? Ha... Give It To Me? The Grammies response: Nope, sorry! And for those who are gonna respond with "Well that song is more 2007, same with SIR and WGACA so they will definately get grammies in '08 for that" uhm, sorry no lol - not gonna happen.
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Post by asg4 on Feb 12, 2007 12:09:36 GMT -5
Why are people hating on JT and saying he was egotistical lol!? He got his ego smashed with a hammer tonight are you kidding me??? He won like the 2 minorist grammies you can ever get so of course it wasn't televised..something like best dance collabo lol and some rap duo preformance bs AND he had to sing with some random pick up chick (she was good though). How much does his ego need to be deflated? Did you see his face when he wasn't winning ANY of the major categories he was up for haha. I'm glad JT and Timbo got shut out, he needed an ego check and got it served by none other than The Dixie Chicks and Blidge. I still think Chicks won too many though, there was a lot of chart toppers that deserved major category grammies...*cough Shakira cough Nelly cough Natasha* , pardon me... JT did think he was going to win. He shouldn't have been nominated. I am sure the Janet and Prince effect hurt him. Plus he cannot sing. how did janet or prince hurt him??
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Post by vivi on Feb 12, 2007 12:12:30 GMT -5
^ Superbowl and on Give It yo me he insult Price.
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Post by vivi on Feb 12, 2007 12:14:14 GMT -5
Ti just realise the stage at the grammy was pretty simple. but still chic , i loved the red and black. Simple stage are way better imo
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Post by giovannina on Feb 12, 2007 12:20:18 GMT -5
I do think it's a bit tedious for a handful of artists to walk away with so many awards every year, especially when so much seems to depend on promo and publicity (who's the highest profile artist). I got missed most of the show, but glad to hear the Lips picked up an award. They're a trip. *g* Win too many awards? Uhh All those artists you mentioned won 1 and 2 max except for the Dixie Chicks, they took home ALL major categories. Maybe I should've said "most years" instead of "every year." My comment was a more generic response to a phenomenon I've seen too often in both the Oscars and the Grammys, for one artist or work to "sweep" the awards when so many others that were outstanding get shut out. It does seem that this year's Grammys were not as much that way as some years are. (BTW, I didn't mention any artists except the Flaming Lips, and that was just a "yeah that" to what a previous poster had said.)
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Post by nitro on Feb 12, 2007 12:21:36 GMT -5
I agree. I think often times the Grammy fails to honor what is c And this statement: It's silly because at the end of the day many of the acts that they recognize will disappear (alicia keys, lauryn hill, norah jones, etc), Alicia Keys has been one of the biggest R&B acts of the last several years and as for Norah Jones, look no further than the top of the current album chart. Yeah... they are selling well, but not as well they initially were. BUt I guess those weren't good examples, because they face the "best new artist" battle / sophomore slump issues. They aren't doing as well commercially as they had when they first came out. I think over-showering a new act with awards can be dangerous. Both are very talented and deserving of the awards they won, but haven't been performing as well or haven't been as recognized as much as they had in the beginning. I don't think 30 years from now, Alicia Keys or Lauryn Hill will go down as legends. Look at the past... the Grammys snubbed big commercial acts, and those are the ones that went down as legends, and they have honored them late in the game or not as much as they deserve (U2, Beatles, Elvis, Rolling Stones). I'm not discounting that these three women don't deserve their awards, just that the Academy ignores artists that are relevant and have staying power. And that's something that should be recognized more. While Continuum was a great album, John Mayer won't be known by many even 10 years from now. Justin Timberlake will. I'm not saying the Grammys should be a popularity contest or reward artists with the most sales, I just think that the Grammys should be more cognizant of these facts. It can help their ratings. I guess he did get a lot of performance time, so that was a smart move on their part. And not stick their heads in things that are a few decades old (there's a great article in the NYtimes today that sums up my sentiments). They should keep up with the times.
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Post by ..Varun.. on Feb 12, 2007 12:25:07 GMT -5
Christina aguilera was really good! And coming from me its a big thing, i never did like her live stuff post 2000. But she totally tore it up! amazing !!!
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Feb 12, 2007 12:29:38 GMT -5
I think people mistake the Best New Artist as being a future predictor instead of a past-year best of award. If an artist never has another hit after the award is presented, what does that matter? The point is is that they were voted as the best among the list for the year that the award represented.
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Post by kristal on Feb 12, 2007 12:32:27 GMT -5
Justin isn't egotistical nor did he seem pissed about the two that he lost. He smiled and clapped. What else did you expect him to do? I don't know if he thought he was going to win Pop Album though I certainly think he should have won. I do know that he didn't think he was going to win AOTY. When he was nominated he talked about how happy he was that he was nomiated but that he thought that RHCP was going to win. And he praised their album.
Also if he did have an ego I certainly don't think that his ego would be deflated by losting 2 out of the 4 that he was nominated for. He certainly doesn't have anything to be sore about. His album is selling tremendously well. He has gotten two number 1 singles. His tour is selling well. He won 2 more grammys. And he is now a 4 time Grammy winner. And this is just his second solo album. It's only going to get better for him. Like I said before I definately think he should have won Pop Album but I for one don't think he has any reason to feel sore about anything. Nor would he be.
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Post by moodang on Feb 12, 2007 12:40:31 GMT -5
I do think that James Blunt got snubbed if anyone cares..
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Post by JamaicaFunkยฒ on Feb 12, 2007 12:45:26 GMT -5
I still think Chicks won too many though, there was a lot of chart toppers that deserved major category grammies...*cough Shakira cough Nelly cough Natasha* , pardon me... how do you think they won too many awards?? they won 2 country awards, which was a give-in. and album of the year.... that was almost a shoe-in. but Song and Record of the Year.... simply based on quality, they were heads and tails above the rest of the nominees.
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Post by giovannina on Feb 12, 2007 12:47:32 GMT -5
I still think Chicks won too many though... how do you think they won too many awards?? They won 2 country awards, which was a give-in]. and album of the year.... that was almost a shoe-in. but Song and Record of the Year.... simply based on quality, they were heads and tails above the rest of the nominees. Well, maybe it was a given that they'd win a couple of country awards and maybe AOTY was almost a shoo-in. And I agree that TTLWH and NRTMN deserved those awards. But there's also no doubt in my mind that the music community wanted to send a message to Clear Channel and other PTB that they oppose censorship of musicians based on non-artistic criteria like political views. I'm sure the Chicks picked up some votes because of they way they had been persecuted for offending some corporate bigwigs. I do think that James Blunt got snubbed if anyone cares.. Couldn't have happened to a more deserving artist, IMO.
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Post by popmusicaddict on Feb 12, 2007 12:50:36 GMT -5
Justin isn't egotistical nor did he seem pissed about the two that he lost. He smiled and clapped. What else did you expect him to do? I don't know if he thought he was going to win Pop Album though I certainly think he should have won. I do know that he didn't think he was going to win AOTY. When he was nominated he talked about how happy he was that he was nomiated but that he thought that RHCP was going to win. And he praised their album. Also if he did have an ego I certainly don't think that his ego would be deflated by losting 2 out of the 4 that he was nominated for. He certainly doesn't have anything to be sore about. His album is selling tremendously well. He has gotten two number 1 singles. His tour is selling well. He won 2 more grammys. And he is now a 4 time Grammy winner. And this is just his second solo album. It's only going to get better for him. Like I said before I definately think he should have won Pop Album but I for one don't think he has any reason to feel sore about anything. Nor would he be. Uh first he did think he was gonna win. There was TONS of reviews saying he had the nod for AOTY, not so much SOTY and he definately thought he had Pop category. He DEFINATELY didn't look "happy" that they won, maybe the first one but after that he wasn't smiling lol, but at least he didn't have an angry face like Jamie Foxx (Wth was up with that jez? LOL) Secondly I agree with you that he wasn't egotistical on the grand stage..I was stating the opposite; he got humbled actually but that doesn't erase his countless egotistical comments to mags and even in a song prior to the grammies. Lets face it, he had 0 reason to be egotistical anyway. He won 2 pathetically minor grammies and had to sing with a random chick on the main stage lol, you wouldn't be egotistical about that either! So that doesn't make him a saint sorry..
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Post by popmusicaddict on Feb 12, 2007 12:52:21 GMT -5
I still think Chicks won too many though, there was a lot of chart toppers that deserved major category grammies...*cough Shakira cough Nelly cough Natasha* , pardon me... how do you think they won too many awards?? they won 2 country awards, which was a give-in. and album of the year.... that was almost a shoe-in. but Song and Record of the Year.... simply based on quality, they were heads and tails above the rest of the nominees. Dude, they won too many major categories. fact. I'm not the only one saying this, I flipped on 2 radio stations that usually play country on AM and even the DJs there are saying they won too much, same with the AC stations. Our pop mainstream station didn't say it though but they beat out all the chart toppers, I think that's wrong. So I disagree with 60% of your entire analogy on why they shoulda won. They shoulda won 3 max but whatever, I'm over it.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Feb 12, 2007 12:55:53 GMT -5
The Grammys aren't based on chart performance and song popularity isn't exactly in the criteria for the winners.
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Post by popmusicaddict on Feb 12, 2007 12:57:57 GMT -5
The Grammys aren't based on chart performance and song popularity isn't exactly in the criteria for the winners. I know for SOTY and ROTY but for some of those others it was just a head scratcher, sorry.
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Post by XXIX on Feb 12, 2007 13:03:18 GMT -5
JT did think he was going to win. He shouldn't have been nominated. I am sure the Janet and Prince effect hurt him. Plus he cannot sing. Hell forget just JT that whole damn arrogant song hurt ALL 3 of em IMO. Between the 3 supposide "Biggest things in 2006" how many grammies did all 3 of these "pop icons" bring home? ***ZERO MAJOR CATEGORIES*** and what 3 very minor ones, between all 3 of em? Ha... Give It To Me? The Grammies response: Nope, sorry! And for those who are gonna respond with "Well that song is more 2007, same with SIR and WGACA so they will definately get grammies in '08 for that" uhm, sorry no lol - not gonna happen. What exactly is major and minor to you? There are only 4 general categories. Let's use Carrie as an example. She won 2 big awards. 1 was bigger because it transcended genre, but the other was a big one. It's not like it was Best Native American Album.
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Post by XXIX on Feb 12, 2007 13:06:14 GMT -5
how do you think they won too many awards?? they won 2 country awards, which was a give-in. and album of the year.... that was almost a shoe-in. but Song and Record of the Year.... simply based on quality, they were heads and tails above the rest of the nominees. Dude, they won too many major categories. fact. I'm not the only one saying this, I flipped on 2 radio stations that usually play country on AM and even the DJs there are saying they won too much, same with the AC stations. Our pop mainstream station didn't say it though but they beat out all the chart toppers, I think that's wrong. So I disagree with 60% of your entire analogy on why they shoulda won. They shoulda won 3 max but whatever, I'm over it. Country radio hardly plays the Dixie Chicks from what I understand so most of them didn't want them to win from the get. People vote and they voted for the Dixie Chicks. 5/5. I'm just happy B.M. Cox's arrogant ass didn't win, LOL.
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Post by galvanize on Feb 12, 2007 13:07:51 GMT -5
Justin Timberlake DOES have the biggest ego ever. Especially with the way he used his facial expressions while using that portable camera. Way bigger than Usher & 50 Cent.
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Post by LordEctar on Feb 12, 2007 13:09:30 GMT -5
I was talking about Timberlake's ego when on stage.
I am extremely happy he didn't win anything major. He doesn't deserve it. He is just a bad hype machine these days.
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Post by currentoptions on Feb 12, 2007 13:09:42 GMT -5
The Grammys aren't based on chart performance and song popularity isn't exactly in the criteria for the winners. Thank goodness. Otherwise London Bridge would win. Shows that radios stations still do not get it. They play trash on the radio.
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Post by kristal on Feb 12, 2007 13:11:12 GMT -5
I didn't know you were Justin nor able to read his mind. Given that Justin never said that he thought he was going to win how in the world would you know that he definately thought he was. And if reviews said that he was going to win that just shows that those reviewers thought he was going to win. But that doesn't say that he thought he was. And with regards to how he looked when he lost he smiled and clapped. There was nothing else to do. What was he supposed to look like? Was he supposed to look "happy" that he lost?
And why would Justin losing two awards humble him? He has lost plenty of awards before and he was able to continue on. And why would he be humbled by peforming with an unknown artist. THe Grammys made a huge deal about some unknown artist getting to perform with Justin Timberlake. A huge deal. And I'm quite sure they had him be invoved so that people would enter the contest as well as get people to watch.
And you might think the two Grammys he did win are minor and don't mean anything but that might not be the case for him. And what is most important is what the awards mean to him.
I certainly never said that Justin was a saint. You are the one who seems to be putting characteristics on Justin that he isn't. And given all of the success that Justin has had with this era he certainly has enough reason to be happy. And I don't see him being humbled or being a sore loser because he lost 2 of the 4 Grammys that he was nominated for.
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Post by kristal on Feb 12, 2007 13:18:23 GMT -5
So because Justin used certain facial expressions on stage that means he is egotistical. I don't get it. He certainly has never said he was the best artist in the world or that he was better than his peers. He has never talked about how he should have won so and so. Or been a sore loser. Justin is actually pretty self-depracating. He has no problems with having people laugh at him. I mean what person who is egotistical would get into a omelette costume and sing and dance? You have to have a pretty good sense of humor to do that.
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