What is highest pop2urban ratio on Hot 100 Top 10?

[Pulse]

Sorrry for the weird phrasing in the subject title, but I wanted to fit in all the details of the question in the subject, but didnt have enough space

Anyway, for the full question, in recent years, since urban songs began dominating, what has been the highest pop to urban ratio in the Top 10 of the Hot 100?

This week the Top 10 of the Hot 100 has three pop songs: You're Beautiful, Unwritten, and Everytime We Touch. A few weeks ago it was also three pop songs with Breaking Free, Unwritten, and You're Beautiful

With that in mind, in recent times, what has been the highest ratio? Have there been 4 or 5 pop songs in the Top 10 maybe last year or is 3 the highest? Or god forbid, 6? :o Probably nto 6, or else someone would have said something lol.

[bubblepop15]

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[Pulse]

Wow! I think I love you now for giving me it! Thanks for posting that :)

[bubblepop15]

thepulse said:

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Any luck?

[Pulse]

bubblepop15 said:

thepulse said:

Wow! I think I love you now for giving me it!    Thanks for posting that :)

:)

Any luck?

Well, I've scanned over 2005. I havent double checked it yet, so I hope I didnt skip anything, but heres what I got so far. Looks like the week of 10/29 had the highest: 4 songs (Sugar We're Going Down, Wake Me Up When September Ends, Photograph, and Because of You). But sometimes the Top 10 seems almost arbitrary because some weeks there are like pop songs like at #11 and #13.

Looks like downloads really helped. Before it, there was only one pop song a week, and on 1/8, no pop songs at all! Since then, there's been almost always two pop songs a week, sometimes three (although there have been a few weeks, where there have been only one pop song)

2005

1/01 I Don't Want To Be
1/08 ************
1/15 Breakaway
1/22 I Don't Want To Be
1/29 Boulevard of Broken Dreams
2/05 Boulevard Of Broken Dreams

----DOWNLOADS START--------

2/12 Boulevard Of Broken Dreams, Since U Been Gone, Breakaway
2/19 Boulevard Of Broken Dreams, Since U Been Gone
2/26 Boulevard Of Broken Dreams, Since U Been Gone

3/05 Boulevard Of Broken Dreams, Since U Been Gone
3/12 Boulevard Of Broken Dreams, Since U Been Gone
3/19 Boulevard Of Broken Dreams, Since U Been Gone
3/26 Boulevard Of Broken Dreams, Since U Been Gone

4/02 Boulevard Of Broken Dreams, Since U Been Gone
4/09 Boulevard Of Broken Dreams, Since U Been Gone
4/16 Boulevard Of Broken Dreams, Since U Been Gone
4/23 Boulevard Of Broken Dreams, Since U Been Gone, Lonely No More
4/30 Boulevard Of Broken Dreams, Since U Been Gone

5/07 Since U Been Gone, Lonely No More, Speed Of Sound
5/14 Since U Been Gone, Lonely No More
5/21 Since U Been Gone, Lonely No More
5/28 Since U Been Gone, Lonely No More

6/04 Since U Been Gone, Behind These Hazel Eyes, Lonely No More
6/11 Since U Been Gone, Behind These Hazel Eyes, Mr Brightside
6/18 Since U Been Gone, Behind These Hazel Eyes
6/25 Since U Been Gone, Behind These Hazel Eyes, Speed of Sound

7/02 Inside Your Heaven (Carrie), Behind These Hazel Eyes
7/09 Inside Your Heaven (Carrie), Inside Your Heaven (Bo), Behind These Hazel Eyes
7/16 Inside Your Heaven (Carrie), Inside Your Heaven (Bo), Behind These Hazel Eyes
7/23 Inside Your Heaven (Carrie), Behind These Hazel Eyes
7/30 Behind These Hazel Eyes

8/06 Behind These Hazel Eyes
8/13 You and Me, Behind These Hazel Eyes, Listen To Your Heart
8/20 You and Me, Behind These Hazel Eyes, Listen To Your Heart
8/27 You and Me, Behind These Hazel Eyes, Listen To Your Heart

9/03 You And Me, Behind These Hazel Eyes, Listen To Your Heart
9/10 You And Me, Behind These Hazel Eyes, Listen To Your Heart
9/17 You And Me, Sugar We're Going Down
9/24 Wake Me Up When September Ends

10/01 Wake Me Up When September Ends
10/08 Photograph, Wake Me Up When September Ends, Beverly Hills
10/15 Photograph, Wake Me Up When September Ends, Sugar We're Going Down
10/22 Photograph, Wake Me Up When September Ends, Because of You
10/29 Photograph, Wake Me Up When September Ends, Because of You, Sugar We're Going Down

11/05 Photograph, Because of You, Wake Me Up When September Ends
11/12 Photograph, Because of You, Sugar We're Going Down
11/19 Photograph, Because of You, Sugar We're Going Down
11/26 Photograph, Because of You

12/03 Photograph, Because of You, Hung Up
12/10 Photograph, Because of You, Hung Up
12/17 Photograph
12/24 Photograph, Because of You
12/31 Photograph, Because of You

2006

1/07 Photograph
1/14 Photograph, Dance/Dance
1/21 Phootgraph, Dirty Little Secret
1/28 Phootgraph, Dirty Little Secret

2/04 You're Beautiful, Dirty Little Secret
2/11 You're Beautiful, Unwritten, Breaking Free
2/18 You're Beautiful, Unwritten
2/25 You're Beautiful

3/04 You're Beautiful, Unwritten
3/11 You're Beautiful, Unwritten, Everytime We Touch
3/18 You're Beautiful, Unwritten
3/25 You're Beautiful, Unwritten, Bad Day

4/01 You're Beautiful, Unwritten, Bad Day
4/08 You're Beautiful, Unwritten, Bad Day
4/15 You're Beautiful, Unwritten, Bad Day
4/22 You're Beautiful, Unwritten, Bad Day, What Hurts The Most
4/29 You're Beautiful, Unwritten, Bad Day, What Hurts The Most, Dani California

5/06 You're Beautiful, Unwritten, Bad Day, Dani California
5/13 You're Beautiful, Unwritten, Bad Day, Dani California, What's Left Of Me, SOS
5/20 Bad Day, Dani California, What's Left Of Me, SOS, Over My Head
5/27 Bad Day, Dani California, What's Left Of Me, SOS, Over My Head

6/03 Bad Day, Dani California, SOS, Over My Head
6/10 Bad Day, SOS, Over My Head, Hips Don't Lie
6/17 Bad Day, SOS, Hips Don't Lie, Unfaithful
6/24 Bad Day, Dani California, Hips Don't Lie, Unfaithful

7/01 Hips Don't Lie, Unfaithful, Crazy, Life Is A Highway, Do I Make You Proud
7/08 Hips Don't Lie, Unfaithful, Crazy, Life Is A Highway, Do I Make You Proud
7/15 Hips Don't Lie, Unfaithful, Crazy
7/22 Hips Don't Lie, Unfaithful, Crazy, Over My Head
7/29 Hips Don't Lie, Unfaithful, Crazy, Over My Head

8/05 Hips Don't Lie, Unfaithful, Crazy, Over My Head
8/12 Hips Don't Lie, Crazy, Over My Head
8/19 Crazy, I Write Sins/Not Tragedies
8/26 Crazy, I Write Sins/Not Tragedies

9/2 Crazy, I Write Sins/Not Tragedies
9/9 Crazy, SexyBack, Call Me When You're Sober
9/16 Crazy, SexyBack, Chasing Cars, Far Away
9/23 Crazy, SexyBack, Chasing Cars, Far Away, Lips Of An Angel
9/30 Crazy, SexyBack, Chasing Cars, Lips Of An Angel, How To Save A Life, Too Little/Too Late

10/7 SexyBack, Chasing Cars, Lips Of An Angel, How To Save A Life, Too Little/Too Late
10/14 SexyBack, Chasing Cars, Lips Of An Angel, How To Save A Life, Far Away
10/21 SexyBack, Chasing Cars, Lips Of An Angel, How To Save A Life, Far Away, Too Little Too Late

2007

1/6 Lips Of An Angel, How To Save A Life, Irreplaceable
1/13 Lips Of An Angel, How To Save A Life, Irreplaceable, It Ends Tonight
1/20 How To Save A Life, Irreplaceable, It Ends Tonight, Welcome To The Black Parade
1/27 How To Save A Life, Irreplaceable, It Ends Tonight, Welcome To The Black Parade

2/3 How To Save A Life, Irreplaceable, Welcome To The Black Parade, It's Not Over, This Ain't A Scene It's An Arms Race
2/10 Irreplaceable, It's Not Over, This Ain't A Scene It's An Arms Race
2/17 Irreplaceable, It's Not Over, This Ain't A Scene It's An Arms Race
2/24 Irreplaceable, It's Not Over, This Ain't A Scene It's An Arms Race

3/3 It's Not Over, This Ain't A Scene It's An Arms Race, Not Ready To Make Nice
3/10 It's Not Over, This Ain't A Scene It's An Arms Race, Girlfriend
3/17 This Ain't A Scene It's An Arms Race, Girlfriend

[bubblepop15]

Wow thanks so much for composing this!! Very interesting to see.

[JayBoozer]

SUBG was in the top 10 for 20 weeks :o

[Pulse]

Bump! Counting Non Urban as Pop ;), looks like this week had the highest ratio since 10/29

Hi Nevermind!

[bubblepop15]

thepulse said:

Bump! Counting Non Urban as Pop ;), looks like this week had the highest ratio since 10/29

1 1 DANIEL POWTER BAD DAY
2 2 PAUL*SEAN TEMPERATURE
4 3 T.I. WHAT YOU KNOW
3 4 JAMES BLUNT YOU'RE BEAUTIFUL
5 5 BLIGE*MARY J. BE WITHOUT YOU - SINGLE
6 6 NATASHA BEDINGFIELD UNWRITTEN
8 7 DEM FRANCHIZE BOYZ LEAN WIT IT ROCK WIT IT
52 8 RASCAL FLATTS WHAT HURTS THE MOST
9 9 BUBBA SPARXXX MS. NEW BOOTY
7 10 NE-YO SO SICK/STAY

I'd love to see 6 non-urban songs in the top ten!

[Pulse]

5 Non Urban songs this week!!


You
This Is Why I'm Hot
Glamorous
Say It Right
The Sweet Escape
It's Not Over
Break It Off
What Goes Around Comes Around
Don't Matter
Cupid's Chokehold
Girlfriend

Lost Without U
IceBox
If Everyone Cared
Last Night

Candyman
U + Ur Hand
Beautiful Liar
Because Of You
With Love
Read My Mind

[Granny Madonna]

So many drama for a lot of urban songs on the Hot100, geez

[Caviar]

its all racial...lol

[JayBoozer]

Seems likes YB and Unwritten are giving SUBG and Photograph a run for their money in longest running pop songs in the top 10.

[bubblepop15]

34 1 RIHANNA SOS
1 2 DANIEL POWTER BAD DAY
2 3 PAUL*SEAN TEMPERATURE
4 4 CHAMILLIONAIRE RIDIN'
3 5 T.I. WHAT YOU KNOW
33 6 NICK LACHEY WHAT'S LEFT OF ME
9 7 BUBBA SPARXXX MS. NEW BOOTY
5 8 NATASHA BEDINGFIELD UNWRITTEN
10 9 RED HOT CHILI PEPPE DANI CALIFORNIA
8 10 JAMES BLUNT YOU'RE BEAUTIFUL

SIX NON-URBAN SONGS! WOO!

[Pulse]

Lately, the Pop To Urban ratio has gone down again. But I think its just becauses its the summer and there are many pop/urban jamz coming out right now. But where are these songs classified? Are they pop or urban?

Hips Don't Lie
Where'd You Go
Crazy
Ain't No Other Man

I think I'd say Hips Don't Lie has a rapper and is slightly reggaetonish, but I'd say at the end of the day it's more Latin.  Where'd You Go is a totally pop song, but the production is totally urban. I'd say it's urban. Crazy's vocals are urban, but the production is too eletronic. Sounds like something the Gorlilaz would do, so I'd say its non urban. Ain't No Other Man...if Beyonce sang it, urban stations would play it, so I'd say its urban.

www.mmr247.com/mmrweb/Reports/Reg/EMD.asp?SOngID=1457369&NumDays=7/Max

[pubescentmonster]

Aint No Other Man is pop/soul. Not urban

[Caviar]

ANOM cannot be catagorized as strictly Pop or Urban..its 70s/funk.

[bubblepop15]

Yeah, there is a lot of borderline tracks.

I usually would classify it by if the song is charting on the R&B/Hip-Hop chart even though that's not always reliable cause not all urban-leaning songs actually chart on that.

I would consider:
- Christina Aguilera - pop (Ain't No Other Man)
- Fort Minor - rock (Where'd You Go - Just because he was part of Linkin Park)
- Nelly Furtado - urban (Promiscuous, since it is charting at R&B)
- Gnarls Barkley - I really have no idea. It has so much appeal... R&B/Hip-Hop I'd say.

[babyboylrtm]

nauticaiu04 said:

ANOM cannot be catagorized as strictly Pop or Urban..its 70s/funk.

but i thought she said it was 20s?

[threeonthetree]

lol

[Pulse]

Updated the list. I included SexyBack and Crazy as non urban. Crazy didnt really do anything on the Rhythmic charts and did much worse on R&B, but was a big hit on AAA and Modern Rock. And it sounds like the Gorillaz made it (and theyre considered alternative). SexyBack is more like a trance like song or something, but not really urban.

There seem'd to be a dry spell a few months ago, but as of 9/30, we seem to be getting 5-6 non urban songs in the Top 10. With Evanescence and The Killers at the outskirts of the Top 10 this week, does anyone think it could be 7-8 non urban songs? :o

Does White & Nerdy count as urban or non urban? I think it counts as urban, because the original song is urban.

[jaxxalude]

thepulse said:

Does White & Nerdy count as urban or non urban? I think it counts as urban, because the original song is urban.

I understand where you're coming from, but no. "White & Nerdy" is a pop song, hands down. Even if it's a novelty one.