The HYPE is sooo Thick!

[How Do You Do?]

But, coming off two flops has nothing to do with your point that the U.S. hates strong women.

I would argue that Pink's long-streak of flops in the U.S. means that she doesn't have a solid fanbase in the U.S. or that Mizzunderstood's success was a fluke for her. Lots of artists have that once in a lifetime album that sells like crazy that they can't match again- Alanis Morrisette, Jewel, and Shakira (as much as I love her, she's never going have another album sell as well as Laundry Service) just to name a few. That doesn't mean they are not talented, just that most artists can't catch lightning in a bottle twice.

[polly]

Yes but they CAN still release great song the become as big as any of their other hits, and albums that still sell very well, even if not as much as the original. Shakira is a gerat case in point. Sure OF2 won;t sell as well as LD, BUT it now can still sell well. And as long as she releases more great albums with big hits like HDL on them, I can still her selling alot of records. Same goes for anyone else. Alanis hasn't had the success becasue I think people want her to be more like her angry JLP days, but she's not. And the quality of music hasn't been so high. With Shakira and Pink, their music off of the later albums has been awesome and in Pink's case (I'm not sure about Shakira) her music is as good as Miz. I'm putting it down to lack of US support after TT. BUT I think artists that have HUGE success can still have alot of success. It's just a matter of releasing the right material, producing good albums and re-inventing your image. That one alnum might be huge, but they can still have success later on,. I think Alanis is a special case.... but I feel artisits liek Shakira and Pink, can still have success if they play their cards right. At the moment, Shakira is doing a great job of that.

[renaissance411]

She should have taken the word "not" out of her album title.

"Who Knew" is tolerable; "Stupid Girls" was not that great. Pink needs to release some high quality material, and then, I think the US will embrace her again. But she has been releasing songs that are not of the same quality that she used to.

"Trouble," "God is a DJ," "Feel Good Time," "Stupid Girls," and "Who Knew" are definitely not as good as her previous singles. Even those off her first album were very good. "There U Go" was a hot summer jam. "Most Girls," "Get the Party Started," and all the pop/rock tracks from her sophomore release were all great picks. Her Try This releases and her I Am Not Dead releases just aren't that great.

Release better quality and there is a higher likelihood you will be embraced. Granted, we let crap like "Laffy Taffy" clog up the airwaves from time to time, but there are great, high quality releases on the radio today. Pink could be one of them, but she has to release the right material.

[MusicJunkie]

renaissance411 said:

Release better quality and there is a higher likelihood you will be embraced.  Granted, we let crap like "Laffy Taffy" clog up the airwaves from time to time, but there are great, high quality releases on the radio today.  Pink could be one of them, but she has to release the right material. 

Exactly. Radio just doesn't care about quality material anymore. Pink does well in every other department except US radio. That's all she needs. But radio rather play Laffy Taffy or Ms. New Booty.

[polly]

^ Exactly. WK and SG were better than most songs out there. It's not song quality. If that were the case she's be top ten, no top 3!

[renaissance411]

polly said:

^ Exactly. WK and SG were better  than most songs out there. It's not song quality. If that were the case she's be top ten, no top 3!

I'd have to disagree there. "Who Knew," while it may have a great message/story behind it, it's just not catchy, not something I can see people wanting to hear on the radio. It's not particularly pleasing to the ears.

Now I love Pink, but her sophomore album was where she truly shined. If she came out with some good material like that again, I think she would be embraced again. Ultimately, I think she is trying too hard, to do what exactly I couldn't tell you. All I can tell you is that it has left quite a few former fans like myself unimpressed.

[polly]

I'm sorry but as most agree, IND is her best album. Funny how all other countries have embraced the two songs. WK is a beautiful track, while SG was fun. IND is her most versatile effort and has some of her best songs to date. LWTH anyone? UUH? WK? And the list goes on. Pink just needed to put out the right songs off of this album for it to sell.

But back on track.

Mariah Carey did help stimulate sales, but now with all these major artists releasing music at the same time, I feel the album sales will get better as they all help to power one anothers' sales... Beyonce, Agi, Justin, Linkin, Evenescece, Jessica, Ciara, Janet, and even Kelly again... could all stimulate the sales, as they helped one another in 02 and 03. 05 didn't have ALL of these huge artists out at the same time to help power the sales and stimulate eachother to better success.

This is just my theory on why 05 and the fir st half of 06 have not been huge sales wise. What do yall think?

[renaissance411]

polly said:

I'm sorry but as most agree, IND is her best album. Funny how all other countries have embraced the two songs. WK is a beautiful track, while SG was fun. IND is her most versatile effort and has some of her best songs to date. LWTH anyone? UUH? WK? And the list goes on. Pink just needed to put out the right songs off of this album for it to sell.

But back on track.

Mariah Carey did help stimulate sales, but now with all these major artists releasing music at the same time, I feel the album sales will get better as they all help to power one anothers' sales... Beyonce, Agi, Justin, Linkin, Evenescece, Jessica, Ciara, Janet, and even Kelly again... could all stimulate the sales, as they helped one another in 02 and 03. 05 didn't have ALL of these huge artists out at the same time to help power the  sales and stimulate eachother to better success.

This is just my theory on why 05 and the fir st half of 06 have not been huge sales wise. What do yall think?

I haven't heard Pink's latest album so I'm not sure if this is her greatest work or not; however, I totally agree that the first two singles should not have been the first two singles. I'm anxious to hear "U + Ur Hand," which I have not heard yet. Maybe that can turn things around and bring the album to the forefront for the American public.


I'm ready to see how all these high profile releases will do. I expect Beyonce, Justin, Christina, and Janet to all do very well.

[polly]

Exactly. All these huge profiles all at the same time create their own hype, and generate all this BUZZ. 05 had Mariah's return, Kelly making it big and a few other big acts doing well but not enough and not all at the same time. These groups of girls that are listed above are massive, so expect their sales to be better now than what they have been in the last year.