Minimalism
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Post by Minimalism on Aug 25, 2006 22:55:05 GMT -5
But SS flopped? I guess they ran out of cash ??? ;) I think it's the public's interest in the song that in the end determines the success of a song. I mean, sure, radio stations can play a song hundred times a day, but if there is no interest, they will stop playing it eventually. JMO.
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Post by skaterboyccs on Aug 26, 2006 1:50:22 GMT -5
"Hung Up" wasn't played more and sorry and GT flop just for political and age reasons against madonna... that's all... LMAO .. loving this new excuse .. keep working it, perhaps someday someone will believe it LMAO LOL &and mariah only do something that was "IN" @ the time (just R&B/POP with featuring rappers and call it "REMIX" just like J-HO..) really, you need to change this tired old rekkid, you keep repeating the same thign over and over .. what is it you don't get? "It;s Like THat", "We Belong Together", "Shake It Off" & "Don't Forget About US" .. none of them featured rappers .. "say Something" did and it flopped (not nearly as bad as GT, Sorry & HU) if you want to argue your point, have some validity in your arugment otherwise nobody will take you seriously ;) Why are you always fighting... at least madonna is doing a tour that is making 20x the money that mariah is doing with her album  ... who laught @ the end? and It's like that has featurings like the fat one rapper... and wbt was promoted with a remix with featured rappers... SIO with JAYZ.. and DFAU with a different rapper for every digital outlet... |
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Post by Mean A$$ on Aug 26, 2006 19:12:34 GMT -5
You really can't compare Mariah and Madonna. Mariah, hands down is THE VOICE. Madonna hands down is an INCREDIBLE ENTERTAINER. Very different type of artists.
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Post by Bunifa Latifah Jackson on Aug 27, 2006 11:12:30 GMT -5
You really can't compare Mariah and Madonna. Mariah, hands down is THE VOICE. Madonna hands down is an INCREDIBLE ENTERTAINER. Very different type of artists. Agreed. I still cant understand why people keep on comparing them. They are extreme oposites sort of artists, there's simply no way to compare the two of them. |
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Post by colson on Aug 28, 2006 0:00:02 GMT -5
Yeah and you ain't getting a cent of Madonna's money yet you are bragging.lol And believe me, as rich as Mariah as, she ain't hurting right now for the extra dough. Arguing over who made how much on tour is ridiculous. Both women are rich so what difference does that make.lol
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Post by FSUmcIL on Sept 5, 2006 20:11:14 GMT -5
LMAO .. loving this new excuse .. keep working it, perhaps someday someone will believe it LMAO LOL really, you need to change this tired old rekkid, you keep repeating the same thign over and over .. what is it you don't get? "It;s Like THat", "We Belong Together", "Shake It Off" & "Don't Forget About US" .. none of them featured rappers .. "say Something" did and it flopped (not nearly as bad as GT, Sorry & HU) if you want to argue your point, have some validity in your arugment otherwise nobody will take you seriously ;) Why are you always fighting... at least madonna is doing a tour that is making 20x the money that mariah is doing with her album ... who laught @ the end? and It's like that has featurings like the fat one rapper... and wbt was promoted with a remix with featured rappers... SIO with JAYZ.. and DFAU with a different rapper for every digital outlet... I think it's people that aren't spending a month's rent to see Madonna, they're the one's laughing. And so what if Mariah collaborates with rappers, she started the whole trend over 10 years ago with Fantasy. At least she didn't sink to the level of doing a song with Britney Spears. |
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Post by cbmc99 on Sept 5, 2006 20:55:20 GMT -5
Too Little Too Late is the most solid single I have heard all year.
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Post by die Lotterie on Sept 7, 2006 21:05:20 GMT -5
LOL, Lambs are the funniest things alive Yup, it's a bit hard for u guys to see how the Mariah team is always involved on some sort of 'help' to build up her way into the top of the charts. If not payola, it is the 50cents singles being sold And of course there might have been some money going on for 'Aint No Other Man' aswell, dont u know the bussiness we are in today? It's all about money darling, but like it or not, it wasnt just 'for the music' that Mariah went all the way to the top of charts with WBT and the singles from the MIMI era, the right name is really PAYOLA like it or not doll ;) Yeah, because IDJ released 50 cent singles for all of her recent hits here in the US.  I don't really believe that payola can cause a song to sit at the top of the charts for 14 weeks, and the airplay chart for 16 weeks. That's rediculous and unrealistic. Your excuses for Mariah's success are exhausting and just don't cut it. |
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Post by John77 on Sept 8, 2006 0:02:35 GMT -5
Isn't a "comeback" supposed to be defined as someone who has been gone a long time (say 5 years or so or more) or majorly flopped with their last effort??? Unfortunately, most of this thread seems way off topic...
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Post by COW COW COW COW COW COW COW on Sept 9, 2006 8:34:08 GMT -5
Yeah, it will when you start talking about how Carrie Underwood will have a "come back" with whatever her new song is...
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Post by MyLastView on Sept 15, 2006 21:32:07 GMT -5
I hate all 3 of them.
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Post by when the pawn... on Sept 18, 2006 20:00:07 GMT -5
Dirrty - Christina - didn't love the song that much at the time but the combination of Dirrty and Beautiful cultivated Christina into the serious-pop artist she was hoping for quicker than any other artist could've dreamed of.
Ain't No Other Man - Christina - she can re-invent herself well because she has talent
Smooth - Santana - just a great song
Uninvited - Alanis - huge comeback single, best Alanis song ever
Crazy In Love - Beyonce - seperation from DC3 and after Work It Out flopped, I wondered...
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Post by Gorminako on Sept 19, 2006 3:20:20 GMT -5
He's right. Who cares. I would rather a general topic on any artists best comeback singles. I agree. We keep on getting these Madonna vs. Mariah posts, and then most of the rest of the commentary is someone lavishing praise on Madonna while tearing Mariah down, and someone else doing the reverse. "We Belong Together", not "It's Like That" was the true comeback single here, so would win this competition. In fact I haven't heard "It's Like That" since WBT became a hit. I'm happy for Madonna's sales comeback and sorry for her lack of radio airplay, but not surprised, since the radio monopolies are so conservative. "Call On Me" is not a genuine comeback single as yet, and doesn't look like it will be. Janet will have to do much better with another single. Anyway, for the last couple of years, Green Day is worth noting as a comeback artist (actually they're bigger than they ever were) with "Boulevard Of Broken Dreams", etc. and also Weezer with "Beverly Hills". Tom Petty is having some sort of comeback with "Saving Grace", #1 on both AAA and Heritage Rock. And certainly Santana's "Smooth" has to go down in history as one of the all-time great comeback singles, with the indispensable aid of Rob Thomas. While there have been many other great comeback singles, I don't think they can get bigger than that. |
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Post by Minimalism on Sept 19, 2006 4:02:47 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree with "Smooth".
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Post by JCMF3 on Sept 19, 2006 9:01:01 GMT -5
Uninvited is a "comeback" song? It was a soundtrack release about a year after Alanis' last single left the pop chart. To "comeback", didn't she have to go somewhere?
So basically this topic is about best first singles off an album? Because that is what it has reduced to in many of these posts.
Now Smooth, there I would agree that is a "comeback" song and yes it is one of my favorite songs of the past ten years.
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Post by Pulse on Sept 19, 2006 11:28:27 GMT -5
Im suprised Promiscuous has hardly been mentioned in this thread. Nelly was basically heading for the Surreal Life, before this new album.
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Post by JCMF3 on Sept 19, 2006 19:59:32 GMT -5
Im suprised Promiscuous has hardly been mentioned in this thread. Nelly was basically heading for the Surreal Life, before this new album. Nelly Furtado was in the same league as Vanilla Ice? One not-so-great album performance (which, by the way, was because of radio really - the album was solid and did very well in Canada and internationally) means end of your career? Some people on this board are so overdramatic. |
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Post by when the pawn... on Sept 19, 2006 20:29:19 GMT -5
I do think that after her last album's performance, it's a shock that she could come back and have one of the most inescapable songs of 2006. Especially because it's bigger than Fly Like A Bird and Turn Off The Lights.
I do consider Uninvited a comeback single. Alanis had been gone for about 12-15 months and the return of the JLP star was hotly anticipated after 'Pill's wild success. Uninvited broke the silence and shot up the pop chart in the style of a big comeback and picked up 2 Grammys.
I'll push my picks of Dirrty, Smooth and Boulevard of Broken Dreams as well.
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Post by COW COW COW COW COW COW COW on Sept 22, 2006 19:38:23 GMT -5
^ LOL, obviously she struggled with 'Its Like That...' therefore they decided to move on to 'WBT' and spent the hell out of it - Nobody was downloading it practically...
Same thing with 'Be Without You' by Mary J Blige and Sean Paul's songs...No one buys them. They can be #26 on iTunes, and #3 on the Hot 100.
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Post by COW COW COW COW COW COW COW on Sept 22, 2006 19:40:26 GMT -5
I do think that after her last album's performance, it's a shock that she could come back and have one of the most inescapable songs of 2006. Especially because it's bigger than Fly Like A Bird and Turn Off The Lights. I do consider Uninvited a comeback single. Alanis had been gone for about 12-15 months and the return of the JLP star was hotly anticipated after 'Pill's wild success. Uninvited broke the silence and shot up the pop chart in the style of a big comeback and picked up 2 Grammys. I'll push my picks of Dirrty, Smooth and Boulevard of Broken Dreams as well. I totally disagree that 'Promiscuous' is bigger than 'I'm Like A Bird.' That song is a classic, 'P' won't be as much so in the long run - trsut me. Its not as good of a song...and it probably won't give her a bunch of shiny gold record awards. |
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Post by Pulse on Sept 22, 2006 20:00:19 GMT -5
^ LOL, obviously she struggled with 'Its Like That...' therefore they decided to move on to 'WBT' and spent the hell out of it - Nobody was downloading it practically... Same thing with 'Be Without You' by Mary J Blige and Sean Paul's songs...No one buys them. They can be #26 on iTunes, and #3 on the Hot 100. It's Like That went Top 10 on Sales. It actually did worse on Airplay. No one buys Sean Paul songs?! They all went Top 10 on Sales. What are you talking about? ??? |
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Post by Pulse on Sept 22, 2006 20:04:56 GMT -5
Im suprised Promiscuous has hardly been mentioned in this thread. Nelly was basically heading for the Surreal Life, before this new album. Nelly Furtado was in the same league as Vanilla Ice? One not-so-great album performance (which, by the way, was because of radio really - the album was solid and did very well in Canada and internationally) means end of your career? Some people on this board are so overdramatic. Nothing overdramatic about that. Before this album, everyone had labeled Nelly a one hit wonder. Yes, it does mean the end of your career. I dont know how Canadians are, but in the USA she was dead meat. What other new act has a succesful first album, flops on the second one, and comes back as strong on the third? It doesnt really happen. You need to build up a strong set of hits, then you can underperform, not on the second album. |
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Post by when the pawn... on Sept 23, 2006 7:45:37 GMT -5
I do think that after her last album's performance, it's a shock that she could come back and have one of the most inescapable songs of 2006. Especially because it's bigger than Fly Like A Bird and Turn Off The Lights. I do consider Uninvited a comeback single. Alanis had been gone for about 12-15 months and the return of the JLP star was hotly anticipated after 'Pill's wild success. Uninvited broke the silence and shot up the pop chart in the style of a big comeback and picked up 2 Grammys. I'll push my picks of Dirrty, Smooth and Boulevard of Broken Dreams as well. I totally disagree that 'Promiscuous' is bigger than 'I'm Like A Bird.' That song is a classic, 'P' won't be as much so in the long run - trsut me. Its not as good of a song...and it probably won't give her a bunch of shiny gold record awards. I agree on those points but FLAB obviously didn't have the chart success of Promiscuous. She had 2 big top 10 hits, a flop 3rd single, both singles from the 2nd LP flopped and she comes back with a new single a few years later and blows up the charts. That's a comeback single, IMO. |
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