Tim McGraw - Greatest Hits Vol 3

[Marv]

I agree; 'Everywhere' is a masterpiece, and was among the very first CDs I purchased when I became a full-time country music listener/fan in 1996.

Hearing 'Everywhere' on 'CT40' last weekend was awesome; it entered the countdown on that weekend back in 1997, and eventually spent two weeks @ #! at R&R.

All of his CD's since 'All I Want' have been anywhere from good to exceptional ('STCD'); that's my two cents.

I hope he and Curb Records part ways very soon; they're treating him like anything other than a format mega-megastar.

[meganseabiscuit]

from Tim at a concert he did on September 30th.

ww3.startribune.com/blogs/poplife/2008/09/01/tim-mcgraw-treasure-island/

McGraw was friendly, chatty and quick witted. Not only was he in good spirits, he was in good voice and good shape (his muscles bulged in his sleeveless shirt).

McGraw offered three new songs, none of which will be on his forthcoming gGreatest Hits 3 package. He opened with gStill,h performed the ballad gYou Had to Be Thereh about missing onefs father and served up the canft-miss gSouthern Voice,h a rockinf name-checking anthem that mentions Aretha Franklin, Dolly Parton and Rosa Parks in the same verse and Tom Petty, Pocahontas, Jack Daniels and Billy Ray Cyrus in another. The singer made a SNIDE comment about NOT knowing when the songs would be released because he records for Curb Records.

[ClevelandRox]

So is You Had To Be There going to be on this, or his next album still?

[Ten Pound Hammer]

Sept 2, 2008 23:54:00 GMT -5 ClevelandRox said:

So is You Had To Be There going to be on this, or his next album still?

Next album, I hope. According to the tracklist for Greatest Hits, Volume 3.1416, there're no new-new songs; just the Kenny/Tim/Tracy version of "Find Out Who Your Friends Are", the Def Leppard collab, and a live version of "Real Good Man".

Well, crap. That means no hope now for "Blank Sheet of Paper".

[gcizvolsfan]

Sept 2, 2008 19:51:53 GMT -5 meganseabiscuit said:

from Tim at a concert he did on September 30th.

The singer made a SNIDE comment about NOT knowing when the songs would be released because he records for Curb Records.

Great comment by Tim and calling out Curb.

[rockingcountry]

Sept 3, 2008 19:55:56 GMT -5 gcizvolsfan said:

Sept 2, 2008 19:51:53 GMT -5 meganseabiscuit said:

from Tim at a concert he did on September 30th.

The singer made a SNIDE comment about NOT knowing when the songs would be released because he records for Curb Records.

Great comment by Tim and calling out Curb.

Yeah, I'm really glad he said that. I don't know what is wrong with Curb! ??? They should be ashamed of themselves!

[ClevelandRox]

Sept 3, 2008 11:01:48 GMT -5 Ten Pound Hammer said:

Well, crap. That means no hope now for "Blank Sheet of Paper".

:'(

[Dustin]

from Tim McGraw:

"I am saddened and disappointed that my label chose to put out another hits album instead of new music. I've only had one studio album since my last hits package. It has to be just as confusing for the fans as it is to me. I had no involvement in the creation or presentation of this record. Sure I love the songs and don't want to take anything away from all the creative people who were a part of making those records. But the whole concept is an embarassment to me as an artist. In the spirit of an election year, I would simply say to my fans:

'I'm Tim McGraw and I don't approve their message.'"

www.countryondemand.com/news/2008/10/tim-mcgraw-statement-about-greatest.shtml

[Marv]

If he can leave Curb Records and go somewhere where he can be treated decently and with respect, I wish he'd do so ASAP.

This CD is a major insult to all of us, regardless as to whether you like, love, tolerate, are somewhat indifferent, or just can't stand Tim McGraw.

[Dustin J.]

Oct 14, 2008 16:26:13 GMT -5 Marv said:

If he can leave Curb Records and go somewhere where he can be treated decently and with respect, I wish he'd do so ASAP.

This CD is a major insult to all of us, regardless as to whether you like, love, tolerate, are somewhat indifferent, or just can't stand Tim McGraw.

Couldn't have said it better.

[someguy]

From All Access:

McGraw And Label In Disagreement Over Greatest Hits Package

It was the "battle of press releases" today between CURB RECORDS/NASHVILLE and their star artist TIM McGRAW; first McGRAW released a statement through his publicist that he had no involvement in his new “Greatest Hits 3" package. According to the release, McGRAW had been working on a new studio album for the past year, with the hopes of releasing it this fall.

“I am saddened and disappointed that my label chose to put out another hits album instead of new music,” said McGRAW. “I’ve only had one studio album since my last hits package. It has to be just as confusing to the fans as it is to me. I had no involvement in the creation or presentation of this record. Sure I love the songs and I don’t want to take anything away from all the creative people who were a part of making those records. But the whole concept is an embarrassment to me as an artist. In the spirit of an election year, I would simply say to my fans ‘I’m TIM McGRAW and I don’t approve their message.”

In response, CURB RECORDS released the following statement: “CURB RECORDS’ EVP/GM DENNIS HANNON indicated that he had numerous conversations with McGRAW's representatives with respect to all aspects of the Greatest Hits 3 album and the good news is that the album is anticipated to debut as the #1 album on the Billboard chart. Nevertheless, we share TIM’s disappointment with the first week’s sales levels and we acknowledge that unfortunately the week that this album was released was right at the peak of the collapse of the economic and finance markets. We are going to work hard to try to take the current single “Let It Go” to #1 in hopes that the economic climate is improving and that sales will also improve.”

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My thoughts:

I guess there's no doubt now that Tim is leaving Curb as soon as his contract is up (which is after one more studio album, if I'm not mistaken).

I'm not one to jump on the 'blame the evil label' bandwagon, but in this case it seems like the right thing to do. LeAnn Rimes, Jo Dee Messina and Tim McGraw can't all be wrong about their conflicts with the label.

[rowdawg21]

Oct 14, 2008 17:42:31 GMT -5 someguy said:

In response, CURB RECORDS released the following statement: “CURB RECORDS’ EVP/GM DENNIS HANNON indicated that he had numerous conversations with McGRAW's representatives with respect to all aspects of the Greatest Hits 3 album and the good news is that the album is anticipated to debut as the #1 album on the Billboard chart. Nevertheless, we share TIM’s disappointment with the first week’s sales levels and we acknowledge that unfortunately the week that this album was released was right at the peak of the collapse of the economic and finance markets. We are going to work hard to try to take the current single “Let It Go” to #1 in hopes that the economic climate is improving and that sales will also improve.”

What a joke of a statement by Curb. It's obvious that Tim didn't want this album released. Does Curb really expect anyone to believe that, despite the fact Tim has a new album done and debuted three songs in concert this summer, he decided to release a GH album instead?

And of course the album will be #1. It helps to have no competition. I love the "collapse of the economic and finance markets" excuse. Yeah, it could be that. Or it could be that people aren't stupid enough to buy an album with no new material.

[Lee]

This is the exact same thing that happened to LeAnn Rimes with the I NEED YOU album. She had no part in the project. They took 2 COYOTE UGLY songs, the title track from the JESUS movie, and the rest were old recordings. She publicly spoke out against it on LENO, saying it was not a representation of her as an artist. Ofcourse LeAnn was still a hot artist at the time and the album has nearly sold platinum according to soundscan and should be certified as such by the RIAA. The same can be said for that GOD BLESS AMERICA album they put out after 9/11 of LeAnn's old recordings.

Both Tim, LeAnn, and Jo Dee belong elsewhere.

[pipi]

LMAO@ them blaming the economy. I feel bad for Tim, his artistry is being messed with for their financial gain. He needs to move labels. Btw, what was the song that was meant to be his new single for his next album? Can I listen to it online?

[1faithfan74]

He plans on going else where (his own lable..I would think)but a contract is a contract. The next studio cd is his last which is whay he stated that they put out this GH to delay his contract.
LeAnne even fought Curb in court to get out of her contract and is forced to finish it. I think she had 7 cds at the time. Can't remember.
Just glad Tim spoke out about it.

FYI.. if you fo to Youtube and look for Tim Mcgraw Live Your Voice Tour and put in "You Had to Be There" or Still" you can hear peoples recordings of them from cell phones.

[Ten Pound Hammer]

What problems did Jo Dee Messina have with Curb? Just curious.

[Marv]

I didn't realize that Jo Dee Messina and LeAnn Rimes are also on Curb Records, and they both certainly deserve far ber better treatment as well; you cannot tell me that Ms. Messina was not very psyched about her career reigniting when the awesome 'My Give A Damn's Busted' shot straight to #1.

Considering that McGraw and Messina each have three 'power gold' tracks among the top twenty 'power gold' cuts of this decade at the format, and Ms. Rimes certainly has a formidable collection of format staples as well, this treatment of all three of them is beyond reprehensible, and especially for Tim, given his clout at format and dozens of weeks atop the singles charts since the mid-nineties.

Dustin J.----Thank you!!!!

Rowdawg----Another masterpiece of a post---keep 'em comin'!!!

[43dudleyvillas]

So Curb decides to take a swipe at its franchise artist by suggesting his only motivation for issuing a public objection to the release of this GH set is a relatively low level of first-week sales? That's just lovely.

Mike Curb is notorious for milking his artists by locking them into restrictive many-album contracts, but here's what I don't get. Say you're an artist negotiating a record deal. New artist, veteran artist, doesn't matter. I have to think that, after seeing how disrespectfully Curb has treated its biggest star, it would take a seriously high level of desperation for an artist to bother signing with Curb after this. I get that Curb obviously has no hope of re-signing Tim, but its nastiness should compromise its ability to sign/re-sign other artists and I don't get why the label would invite that. Beyond being unprofessional, it's self-defeating.

I like that Tim McGraw made a public statement and confirmed to an even larger audience than his concert fans and YouTube denizens that he has new material and was looking forward to releasing that this year. I'm glad the message that he got out there is that he doesn't take his fans merely as money sources. I don't think he publicly complained when what was originally titled Train No. 10 was held off for the release of his second GH set, did he? So I think he has a case that he has showed restraint and professionalism in the past but has now just had enough.

[someguy]

Oct 15, 2008 9:50:49 GMT -5 Ten Pound Hammer said:

What problems did Jo Dee Messina have with Curb? Just curious.

Jo Dee's greatest hits album came out when her next studio album was already completed (much like Tim's Train #10 situation). After "Was That My Life" struggled, Curb slapped it on a greatest hits along with 3 other 'new' songs, which were actually unfinished tracks that didn't make her previous albums. One of them, "I Wish", was even released as a single.

I saw Jo Dee in concert a couple years ago (I think right before "My Give A Damn's Busted" was released), and she didn't have nice things to say about her label. Also, at the end of the concert, she took some fan requests. Someone requested "I Wish", and Jo Dee said that she didn't know the words to it because she didn't like it. She said something to the effect of she only sings songs she wants to, not ones that her label forced her to.

[Marv]

44,000 copies sold in its opening week shouldn't surprise anyone: 'Let It Go' sold over 325,000 in its first week.

Curb Records deserves an anemic sales number like that; they got what they deserved.

[John77]

Oct 16, 2008 20:52:27 GMT -5 Marv said:

44,000 copies sold in its opening week shouldn't surprise anyone: 'Let It Go' sold over 325,000 in its first week.

Curb Records deserves an anemic sales number like that; they got what they deserved.

Indeed they did... you would have thought they would have learned after the GH2 fiasco... apparently not! :(

[Marv]

I totally agree with you John as well as 43dudleyvillas.

There's no doubt in my mind that if he'd released 'I've Got Friends That Do' (arguably the very best song he's ever recorded) from his GH Vol. 2 CD followed by 'Train #10', he could have conceivably duplicated his 1997 achievement of having two of the top five singles of the year last year, including the #1 single of the year, which would have marked the fifth time that he'd wound up with the year's biggest single.