AlanShkr
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Post by AlanShkr on Nov 29, 2005 17:18:20 GMT -5
I think that since both versions are charting, that its almost the same as if one version was charting high.
Also, in the U.S what other version of the song can chart? The album version? Or is it the same as the signle version?
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Post by ashley on Nov 29, 2005 17:58:16 GMT -5
Well you can choose to just buy one song at a time. When there was only the single available, it was that one that charted. But now, most people buy it individually off the album, so that one can chart too. It basically means the song is listed twice, the only difference is what album it comes from. So the downloads will be split between the two for a bit, but soon enough the one from the album will overtake it (it happened with LT). The only problem is, is that the song probably won't reach top ten now, but we'll see. It's currently #20 on the top songs. And on pop, Don't Bother from the single is 4, and from the album it is 30.
Does that make sense? I can explain it better if you want.
Just to verify though, they are both exactly the same song.
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Post by Hacorzo on Nov 29, 2005 18:00:17 GMT -5
The single version is the same as the album version as far as I know. They are going to chart separately on itunes but I think they get combined for Billboard purposes.
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Post by AlanShkr on Nov 30, 2005 0:58:15 GMT -5
Thanks ashley :). And yes, they count together :).
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Nov 30, 2005 2:25:22 GMT -5
I kind of like the radio edit on the cd :)
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Post by AlanShkr on Nov 30, 2005 6:30:52 GMT -5
What radio edit are you talking about? :O And if it`s possible: could you send it to me? My CD won`t be here for another 2 weeks.
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Post by AlanShkr on Nov 30, 2005 6:55:08 GMT -5
CHR/Pop Position: #26 Spins: 1977 (+58 from yesterday) Bullet: +293 (+23 from yesterday) Audience: 12.823 CHR/Rhythmic Position: #--- Spins: -- Bullet: --- Audience: 0.000 Total Audience: 12.823 iTunes Update: Single Version - 04 (Pop), 20 (Main) (On last update) Album Version - 30 (Pop) (On last update) For the first time since it`s release, DB has finally hit 13 million in audience impressions . It`s going up on practically all the formats, and is playing on 127 pop radio stations. She just has one more to go! I hope her downloads are good, and that we`ll see a very nice jump on the Hot100 .
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Post by How Do You Do? on Nov 30, 2005 14:58:25 GMT -5
Wow, I am so excited that it finally got to 13mm. And it's bullet is nice and healthy, so hopefully it will keep going up. I think next week there should be a good size jump on the Hot 100 chart.
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Post by AlanShkr on Nov 30, 2005 15:45:59 GMT -5
In Italy the song debued at #12, and rose this week to #08 ;). She was also #1 on TRL Italy! It also went up from #10 in Germany to #07 . After being stuck for two weeks at #17 in Austria, the single is now #06 . Up 11 spots!
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Post by Hacorzo on Nov 30, 2005 16:51:54 GMT -5
Itunes Update
Dont Bother (single version) Top 100 songs #20 Top Pop songs #4
Dont Bother (album version) Top 100 songs #79 Top Pop Songs #13
La Tortura Top 100 songs #78 Top Pop Songs #14
Illegal Top Pop Songs #62
Oral Fixation 2 Top 100 Albums #2 Top Pop Albums #1
Fijacion Oral 1 Top 100 Albums #92 Top Pop Albums #14
Laundry Service Top Latin Albums #2
Grandes Exitos Top Latin Albums #7
Donde Estan Los Ladrones Top Latin Albums #8
Whenever Whrerever Top Latin Songs #2
Underneath Your Clothes Top Latin Songs #4
Objection Top Latin Songs #7
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Post by AlanShkr on Nov 30, 2005 16:55:57 GMT -5
Thanks alot Hacorzo! Illegal is #62 on the pop songs chart :O. Amazing! How high would it have to be in order to actually get on the main chart? I think this may even be bigger thaan DB . Also: can you tell us what the most popular tracks from OF2 are? -Thanks!
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Post by How Do You Do? on Nov 30, 2005 17:46:46 GMT -5
Don't Bother is number #5 on TRL-US. It's almost back to it's peak of #4.
I still think they should save Illegal for single #3, just so she can have one more upbeat song and video.
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Post by Paulie on Nov 30, 2005 18:15:59 GMT -5
I still think they should save Illegal for single #3, just so she can have one more upbeat song and video. Yep!!
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Post by josh1414 on Nov 30, 2005 19:03:24 GMT -5
Yup, they should go for "How Do You Do" next, followed by "Illegal" then end the album with "Animal City" or "Timor.
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Post by Hacorzo on Nov 30, 2005 22:40:41 GMT -5
Also: can you tell us what the most popular tracks from OF2 are? -Thanks! According to Itunes here is the ranking:as of today 1 Don't Bother 2 Illegal (Featuring Carlos Santana) 3 Timor 4 Something 5 How Do You Do 6 The Day and the Time (Featuring Gustavo Cerati) 7 Animal City 8 Dreams for Plans 9 Hey You 10 Your Embrace 11 Costume Makes the Clown
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Nov 30, 2005 22:42:56 GMT -5
Im still hoping Illegal is cancelled as a single altogether
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Post by AlanShkr on Dec 1, 2005 0:57:08 GMT -5
Am I the only one who is happy that Illegal could be the second single? Plus it seems people do like it. It is her second most downloaded song from the album. Of course I would like to see Timor or Animal City become the second single, but I`d be happy with this one too :). And DB jumps 17 places from #79 to #62 . And thanks Hacorzo btw :).
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Post by AlanShkr on Dec 1, 2005 7:15:23 GMT -5
CHR/Pop Position: #26 Spins: 1995 (+18 from yesterday) Bullet: +285 (-08 from yesterday) Audience: 12.810 CHR/Rhythmic Position: #--- Spins: -- Bullet: --- Audience: 0.000 Total Audience: 12.810 iTunes Update: Single Version - 04 (Pop), 22 (Main) (On last update) Album Version - 10 (Pop), 45 (Main) (On last update) Illegal is also #60 .
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Post by ashley on Dec 1, 2005 10:12:02 GMT -5
I wonder if they combined the sales of Don't Bother (Album) and Don't Bother (Single) whether it would be top 10? I think because both versions are showing reasonably strong sales, it should jump on the hot 100 again next week.
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Post by AlanShkr on Dec 1, 2005 10:55:17 GMT -5
The do combine both versions, and both versions are doing very well, so next week I really hope she`ll enter the Top50! Is the remix still available on itunes? Or what happened to that?
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Post by ashley on Dec 1, 2005 11:24:06 GMT -5
I dunno where the remix has gone actually. It was a bonus song if you pre ordered the album. On the european iTunes you can buy the remix as well. Maybe they'll add it when the song is doing better.
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Post by ..Varun.. on Dec 1, 2005 13:31:06 GMT -5
OMG iam so in love with shakira right now, she is so special, and she was so sweet at the ama's during her acceptance and how she presented mariah the award for r&b female. I love dont bother, ive been playing it like mad since like 3 days and i just love the lyrics, theyre so relatable, she is a really great songwriter (she wrote this song, right?)
I love this part of the song:
"For you, I'd give up all I own And move to a communist country If you came with me, of course And I'd file my nails so they don't hurt you And lose those pounds, and learn about football If it made you stay, but you won't, but you won't"
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Post by andy on Dec 1, 2005 18:30:43 GMT -5
Wow Varun that is the first post in a while that actually talks about the song itself.
I also like a lot her metaphors .... A few years back this song would have been very personal to me...
In other news the song was #4 at TRL today
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Post by Paulie on Dec 1, 2005 18:58:28 GMT -5
Wow Varun that is the first post in a while that actually talks about the song itself. LOL yeah ive never really talked bout the song i reckon its a great song, great beat and lyrics are original like all of Shaki's.
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Post by ..Varun.. on Dec 2, 2005 4:26:22 GMT -5
The song is very raw imo, its something one can really feel and relate to, that line that i quoted is really something Shakira or anyone out there may have personally gone through.One wanting to change everything just to suit the other person and to have the other person in your life. Most singers would have written something romantic like 'ill change everything in my life if u came back' but shakira instead wrote a very real peice about how she will learn about football, file her nails so she doesnt hurt him.. these lines are so personal as if she really would consider moving to a communist nation and losing weight for her lover, its very deep. I like this song i can banter forever.. lol Im very impressed by this song, I love the lines about her lover's new girlfriend and how she is so tall and shakira must look like a flea infront of her. Iam so relating to this song right now!!!!!
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Post by AlanShkr on Dec 2, 2005 6:56:07 GMT -5
CHR/Pop Position: #26 Spins: 2015 (+20 from yesterday) Bullet: +264 (-21 from yesterday) Audience: 12.639 Total Audience: 12.639 iTunes Update: Single Version - -- (Pop), -- (Main) (On last update) Album Version - -- (Pop), -- (Main) (On last update) I haven`t had an iTunes update all day . Overall her airplay went down a bit, but I hope tomorrow it`ll go back up. EDIT: I checked iTunes.com and BOTH versions of DB are in the Top10! I don`t know which one is where, but one is #05 and the other is #06 . Hopefully someone can post a main update later on :). I can see this song recieving between 10-15k downloads this week .
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Post by Paulie on Dec 2, 2005 7:06:02 GMT -5
I know this has nothing to do with Dont Bother but i just finished watching the making of La Tortura again and i cant believe how good this song is and what a video it is. Shakira was the best and Alejandro is a funny man! He should learn some English and then release an album in English!
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Post by M 123 on Dec 2, 2005 9:02:11 GMT -5
I know this has nothing to do with Dont Bother but i just finished watching the making of La Tortura again and i cant believe how good this song is and what a video it is. Shakira was the best and Alejandro is a funny man! He should learn some English and then release an album in English! as much as I love that song.... i wouldnt like that..... it would of kill the whole album just like it did with Fijacion Oral
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Post by M 123 on Dec 2, 2005 9:05:27 GMT -5
itunes DB single -#21 main chart DB Album- #43 main chart DB single- # 5 in pop DB sngle- # 6 in pop Oral Fixation # 1 in main chart
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Post by Paulie on Dec 2, 2005 17:46:05 GMT -5
I know this has nothing to do with Dont Bother but i just finished watching the making of La Tortura again and i cant believe how good this song is and what a video it is. Shakira was the best and Alejandro is a funny man! He should learn some English and then release an album in English! as much as I love that song.... i wouldnt like that..... it would of kill the whole album just like it did with Fijacion Oral tru tru but Alejandro should release an English album!!
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