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Post by Fanofctrymusic on Nov 7, 2008 16:36:16 GMT -5
MusicRow Robert K. Oermann
EMERSON DRIVE/Belongs To You Writer: Dave Berg/Rivers Rutherford/Tom Shapiro; Producer: Teddy Gentry & Josh Leo; Publisher: Cal IV/Universal/EMI Blackwood/Sony-ATV Tree, ASCAP/BMI; Valory/Midas —This band has a history of finding strong songs. This ballad boasts a stately chorus and a bridge that leads to a strings-and-piano soaked finale.
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Post by kevin59 on Nov 8, 2008 18:25:34 GMT -5
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Post by flattlinesnoodle on Nov 9, 2008 22:42:40 GMT -5
I guess I'm surprised the Robert K. Oermann had a really good review considering every other critic seems to really not like the choice of single.
From a fan standpoint, I liked how they did it live much better... stripped down. I love a good huge production song-- but for me, I loved that it had a lot more piano in it. They definitely cut back on that in the studio. Its hard for me to see a Teddy Gentry/Josh Leo production like that. I do love the song though.
As for the video-- they could have done so much better. Its too dark... Brad looks like he's looking back on his wife who has died when its not supposed to be that way at all. Maybe they thought simple was the way to go--but for me its like "why are they using these type of images?" The rest of the band looks like they are part of an orchestra rather than an actual part of the group.
I'm a huge fan of the band. I want them to stick around for a long time, so I will support the video, but I hope they didn't shoot themselves in the foot with this one. And I hope it looks better on TV.
I would like to hear the other 5/6 songs they are going to have on this CD.
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Post by flattlinesnoodle on Nov 9, 2008 22:56:58 GMT -5
The 9513 They’ve released 15 singles. So why do they still feel like an unknown entity? quote] 15 singles? Is he counting Canadian singles? I Should Be Sleeping Fall Into Me Only God (Could Stop Me Loving You) Last One Standing November A Good Man Moments You Still Own Me The Extra Mile and then you throw in the Canada-only singles: Waitin' on Me If You Were My Girl Still Got Yesterday Countrified Soul Testify Everyday Woman Ok, so technically he's right -- but he must be a fan then because how would he know they've had 15 singles? If he's counting the Canadian singles in with that, he would have had to mention that they have had success with "Yesterday" and "Countrified Soul" and others. Unless he wanted to be smart and checked out my website...or Wikipedia. Personally I think they shouldn't have gone with "You Still Own Me" and gone with "Countrified Soul" instead. I think it would have gone over better at radio. I didn't like "November" as a single either-- but it had gone top-40 before they were dropped. I did like "Only God" though and look at how well that one did. I think it maybe got into the top-20.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Nov 10, 2008 9:24:16 GMT -5
I didn't like "November" as a single either-- but it had gone top-40 before they were dropped. I did like "Only God" though and look at how well that one did. I think it maybe got into the top-20. "November" was a #41 actually. "Only God Could Stop Me Loving You", one of the only country songs written by Mutt Lange and not recorded by Shania, was a #23.
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Post by EmersonDrive13Rocks on Nov 11, 2008 17:50:38 GMT -5
"November" is one of my favourite Emerson Drive songs! This song is really good but they really should have gone with "The Extra Mile" as the 1st single in my opinion since I think it is better.
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Post by flattlinesnoodle on Nov 13, 2008 14:48:08 GMT -5
They should have just left the big production out of it.
So official adds aren't until this Monday? I'm waiting to see if any pick it up with Keith and George and Martina all first week...
I'm still not liking the video at all.
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Post by EmersonDrive13Rocks on Nov 24, 2008 0:10:22 GMT -5
Debuted at #60 on the Billboard Country chart. Also now available on I-tunes with a promo in the country section for it.
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Post by Dustin J. on Nov 24, 2008 8:50:31 GMT -5
I'm listening to these guys play some songs acoustically on Big D & Bubba right now. They sound as good as they ever have.
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Post by EmersonDrive13Rocks on Nov 25, 2008 4:59:20 GMT -5
Yeah when Emerson Drive perform acoustically they are even more amazing. The over production of songs for records sometimes gets in the way like with this song.
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Post by EmersonDrive13Rocks on Nov 29, 2008 8:15:34 GMT -5
Jumps for 60 to 49 in its 2nd week.
49 60 2 EMERSON DRIVE BELONGS TO YOU MIDAS/VALORY 0.954 +0.513 142 55
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Post by EmersonDrive13Rocks on Nov 29, 2008 9:10:45 GMT -5
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Post by Modern Myth on Nov 29, 2008 14:34:57 GMT -5
When does their new album come out?
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Post by kw9461 on Nov 29, 2008 14:37:20 GMT -5
When does their new album come out? April 7th
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Post by EmersonDrive13Rocks on Dec 6, 2008 6:18:16 GMT -5
Moves up from #49 to #46 in it's 3rd week on Billboard/R&R.
Also I will be posting Mediabase updates and chart updates in this thread since it is NOT against the rules of Pulse Music Boards to post daily chart updates! Every other section has people who post daily chart updates in threads and the country section CANNOT have it's own rules! If you ban or suspend me then I will go to one of the Admins and complain!
Here is the Mediabase update for today:
49 46 EMERSON DRIVE Belongs To You 226 161 65 1.320
This is doing nicely so far. 3 weeks and #46 is really good.
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Post by sbp17 on Dec 6, 2008 6:36:01 GMT -5
Also I will be posting Mediabase updates and chart updates in this thread since it is NOT against the rules of Pulse Music Boards to post daily chart updates! Every other section has people who post daily chart updates in threads and the country section CANNOT have it's own rules! If you ban or suspend me then I will go to one of the Admins and complain! Meow!
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Post by EmersonDrive13Rocks on Dec 6, 2008 8:15:11 GMT -5
Also I will be posting Mediabase updates and chart updates in this thread since it is NOT against the rules of Pulse Music Boards to post daily chart updates! Every other section has people who post daily chart updates in threads and the country section CANNOT have it's own rules! If you ban or suspend me then I will go to one of the Admins and complain! Meow! Sorry but I'm really upset at the way the country section is being run. Pulse Music Boards is supposed to be about discussing music charts and not always about meaningful and substantial discussion of songs. It was founded by old members of the Radio & Records forum when that forum closed down. Discussing charts is what this board is about and in every other section of this board posting daily Mediabase and I-tunes updates is allowed. Before I would always keep track of the chart positions of my favourite songs by coming here and looking at the songs thread for daily updates but now I have to go and check allaccess.com to get the Mediabase chart updates. I also post them to keep the song thread updated with relevant information about the song and nothing is more relevant than charts.
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Post by rowdawg21 on Dec 6, 2008 12:06:14 GMT -5
I also post them to keep the song thread updated with relevant information about the song and nothing is more relevant than charts. Woooo! Hooray anarchy!! Fight for your right to post daily Mediabase updates! Nothing is more relevant than Emerson Drive increasing from 1.320 to 1.328 overnight!!!
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Post by nsfb17 on Dec 6, 2008 13:10:25 GMT -5
I agree with EmersonDrive13Rocks to an extent. Country is by far my favorite genre, but sometimes I can't stand visiting this section of the board. There are just too many ridiculous rules. I mean, we're not allowed to post iTunes or chart updates? Is it really that difficult to skip over a post you don't want to read? At times, this forum feels like it's being run by Nazis, especially in comparison to the other sections.
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Post by rowdawg21 on Dec 6, 2008 15:43:23 GMT -5
At times, this forum feels like it's being run by Nazis, especially in comparison to the other sections. The regular posters in the country forum decided on these rules, not the moderator. We've had a discussion on these issues, and the majority of country forum posters did not want constant iTunes/Mediabase updates.
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Post by austin on Dec 6, 2008 18:03:36 GMT -5
I also post them to keep the song thread updated with relevant information about the song and nothing is more relevant than charts. Woooo! Hooray anarchy!! Fight for your right to post daily Mediabase updates! Nothing is more relevant than Emerson Drive increasing from 1.320 to 1.328 overnight!!! They increased THAT much?!! :o SMASH! hahaha ;)
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Post by Jonsolo on Dec 6, 2008 18:10:59 GMT -5
Before I would always keep track of the chart positions of my favourite songs by coming here and looking at the songs thread for daily updates but now I have to go and check allaccess.com to get the Mediabase chart updates. Far be it from the Country Board forcing someone to waste three minutes of their life, in having to bring up another website and log in to check on the Mediabase numbers there each day. We're all obviously very busy people here... Of course, rowdawg does do a pretty good job of keeping his Billboard Chart Projection thread updated, which lists each day's Mediabase audience total. But you have to wade through all those pesky rows and columns!! There are just too many ridiculous rules. I mean, we're not allowed to post iTunes or chart updates? Is it really that difficult to skip over a post you don't want to read? At times, this forum feels like it's being run by Nazis, especially in comparison to the other sections. As rowdawg said, it was more of a democratic, majority-fueled decision for the board, rather than a dictatorial-based one. So blame all of the rest of us!! We're all apparently a bunch of little Eichmanns...
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Post by sbp17 on Dec 6, 2008 18:22:08 GMT -5
Far be it from the Country Board forcing someone to waste three minutes of their life, in having to bring up another website and log in to check on the Mediabase numbers there each day. We're all obviously very busy people here... Plus, no one else is as interested in Emerson Drive to post daily updates so he'd still have to go to Mediabase to retrieve them and post here. Further, there are 50 songs on Mediabase. If uber-fans of all of those 50 artists posted mediabase updates each day, every thread would get pushed to the second page regardless of the interest level. Lastly, there is a distinct difference between discussing the chart run of a song and merely copying and pasting daily medibase updates. There are several good threads here where the a song's chart run is discussed intelligently and substantively without having to post every spin or two increased.
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Post by musicbuff78 on Dec 6, 2008 19:09:52 GMT -5
Before I would always keep track of the chart positions of my favourite songs by coming here and looking at the songs thread for daily updates but now I have to go and check allaccess.com to get the Mediabase chart updates. Far be it from the Country Board forcing someone to waste three minutes of their life, in having to bring up another website and log in to check on the Mediabase numbers there each day. We're all obviously very busy people here... Of course, rowdawg does do a pretty good job of keeping his Billboard Chart Projection thread updated, which lists each day's Mediabase audience total. But you have to wade through all those pesky rows and columns!! There are just too many ridiculous rules. I mean, we're not allowed to post iTunes or chart updates? Is it really that difficult to skip over a post you don't want to read? At times, this forum feels like it's being run by Nazis, especially in comparison to the other sections. As rowdawg said, it was more of a democratic, majority-fueled decision for the board, rather than a dictatorial-based one. So blame all of the rest of us!! We're all apparently a bunch of little Eichmanns... But if someone has already made such a point, why go to the task of reiterating it? What does that prove?
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Post by zaclord on Dec 6, 2008 21:28:07 GMT -5
EmersonDrive13Rocks and Britney = life. just said everything that i have felt about PMB for the last few months. it ridiculous. i agree with everything they said. if you dont want to read Media Base updates, then dont read them. but its guaranteed that SOMEONE will. so why not allow them? they bring discussion to the board. for a lot of songs, there is not much else to talk about other than its chart run.
if PMB is a board for talking about music, then why not allow people to talk about music. not just talk about what the veteran members here want to talk about.
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Post by kw9461 on Dec 6, 2008 23:31:53 GMT -5
if PMB is a board for talking about music, then why not allow people to talk about music. not just talk about what the veteran members here want to talk about. But posting numbers isn't a discussion, it's just data that anyone can easily get by going to allaccess or even just going into rowdawg's chart projections thread. If the numbers show something worthy or discussion (a song makes the T50, T20, T10, #1; something like that), then there's a point to posting them, but daily updates do nothing to stimulate discussion. And as sbp17 mentioned, if we posted updates for every song, then a lot of the actual discussion would get lost off the first page.
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Post by EmersonDrive13Rocks on Dec 7, 2008 4:54:46 GMT -5
if PMB is a board for talking about music, then why not allow people to talk about music. not just talk about what the veteran members here want to talk about. But posting numbers isn't a discussion, it's just data that anyone can easily get by going to allaccess or even just going into rowdawg's chart projections thread. If the numbers show something worthy or discussion (a song makes the T50, T20, T10, #1; something like that), then there's a point to posting them, but daily updates do nothing to stimulate discussion. And as sbp17 mentioned, if we posted updates for every song, then a lot of the actual discussion would get lost off the first page. There is no actually discussion on songs on this board anymore. About 6 members seem to have hijacked the country music forum and decided creating their own rules for it would be fun. We didn't even have a vote on any of it and I've been a regular member here since 2006. I posted Mediabase for "A Good Man", "Moments" and "Testify" and no one complained until like it was consistently Carrie's and Taylor's thread at the top due to Mediabase and I-tunes updates. It isn't just about posting for the sake of posting but posting to keep track of the chart data and I don't get the objection since it happens in the Hot AC, the Chr/Top40, and the Rhythmic/Urban forums. My only problem before with the forums was the Carrie and Taylor fan wars because I love both artists but now I have that problem with it and more.
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Post by EmersonDrive13Rocks on Dec 7, 2008 4:57:52 GMT -5
Far be it from the Country Board forcing someone to waste three minutes of their life, in having to bring up another website and log in to check on the Mediabase numbers there each day. We're all obviously very busy people here... Further, there are 50 songs on Mediabase. If uber-fans of all of those 50 artists posted mediabase updates each day, every thread would get pushed to the second page regardless of the interest level. I would have absolutely no problem at all with that! That is what happens in the other forums and no one complains. It is a good way to keep a chart record and archive for each song's chart run.
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Post by Nevermind on Dec 7, 2008 12:31:48 GMT -5
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Post by EmersonDrive13Rocks on Dec 8, 2008 15:25:18 GMT -5
Moves up from #49 to #46 in it's 3rd week on Billboard/R&R. Also I will be posting Mediabase updates and chart updates in this thread since it is NOT against the rules of Pulse Music Boards to post daily chart updates! Every other section has people who post daily chart updates in threads and the country section CANNOT have it's own rules! If you ban or suspend me then I will go to one of the Admins and complain! Here is the Mediabase update for today: 49 46 EMERSON DRIVE Belongs To You 226 161 65 1.320 This is doing nicely so far. 3 weeks and #46 is really good. Ok I've come to a compromise. I will post every an update every Monday with Mediabase and Thursday for Billboard/R&R 45 42 EMERSON DRIVE Belongs To You 250 185 65 1.466 Moved up 4 spots in 2 days. Gained 24 spins and +0.146 AI in that time.
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