2 playlists compared.....

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Which of these playlists do you prefer?


This is the top 40 station in Green Bay. Notice how almost all of it is alt/rock oreinted?


LW: Dec 27 - Jan 2 TW: Jan 3 - Jan 9 Updated: Tue Jan 10 12:27 PM PST

Station Rank Spins Audience
lw TW Artist Title TW lw +/- Reach/
Mill
2 1 GOO GOO DOLLS Better Days 65 63 2 0.3422
5 2 INXS Pretty Vegas 64 60 4 0.3174
4 3 COLLECTIVE SOUL Better Now 62 60 2 0.3163
3 4 DEFAULT Count On Me 59 62 -3 0.2865
1 5 SIMPLE PLAN Crazy 50 64 -14 0.2461
20 6 FALL OUT BOY Dance, Dance 41 23 18 0.1966
7 7 MARC BROUSSARD Home 38 34 4 0.1818
8 8 PUSSYCAT DOLLS Don't Cha 36 33 3 0.1945
15 9 FADERS No Sleep Tonight 34 29 5 0.1677
6 10 SAVING JANE Girl Next Door 33 36 -3 0.1704

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17 11 ALANIS MORISSETTE Crazy 32 27 5 0.1404
12 12 NICKELBACK Photograph 32 31 1 0.1495
14 13 BETTER THAN EZRA A Lifetime 31 30 1 0.1493
22 14 ROB THOMAS Ever The Same 31 21 10 0.1459
18 15 WEEZER Perfect Situation 30 27 3 0.1416
13 16 3 DOORS DOWN Here By Me 27 30 -3 0.1198
16 17 KILLERS All These Things That I've Don 27 29 -2 0.1581
9 18 RIHANNA Pon De Replay 27 32 -5 0.1399
10 19 ALL-AMERICAN REJECTS Dirty Little Secret 25 31 -6 0.1344
11 20 TOMMY LEE Good Times (f/ Butch Walker) 25 31 -6 0.1148

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38 21 RELIENT K Who I Am Hates Who I've Been 23 14 9 0.0851
26 22 STAIND Right Here 23 17 6 0.0944
21 23 BLACK EYED PEAS Pump It 22 22 0 0.058
24 24 LIFEHOUSE Blind 22 17 5 0.1089
31 25 WAKEFIELD Only One 19 16 3 0.0689
59 26 LIFEHOUSE You And Me 16 10 6 0.0871
30 27 ROB THOMAS Lonely No More 16 16 0 0.0755
28 JAMES BLUNT You're Beautiful 15 0 15 0.0822
46 29 BOWLING FOR SOUP 1985 15 11 4 0.0817
35 30 CLICK FIVE Catch Your Wave 15 14 1 0.0291

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Now here is Milwaukee's top 40 station for the same period. Almost all rap/r&b format. Granted Milwaukee has more minorities. But the Greenbay station is probably my favorite in the entire state, but I can't get it til I'm about 20miles north of where I live :(


Station Rank Spins Audience
lw TW Artist Title TW lw +/- Reach/
Mill
1 1 CHRIS BROWN Run It 89 84 5 0.6031
4 2 GORILLAZ Feel Good Inc 85 82 3 0.5793
3 3 BLACK EYED PEAS My Humps 76 82 -6 0.5032
2 4 NICKELBACK Photograph 73 84 -11 0.5113
9 5 PUSSYCAT DOLLS Stickwitu 69 52 17 0.4645
6 6 KELLY CLARKSON Because Of You 63 55 8 0.4455
5 7 YOUNG JEEZY Soul Survivor (f/Akon) 61 82 -21 0.4113
10 8 TRINA Here We Go f/Kelly Rowland 54 49 5 0.365
7 9 FALL OUT BOY Sugar, We're Going Down 52 53 -1 0.3521
34 10 SEAN PAUL We Be Burning (Legalize It) 47 20 27 0.354

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8 11 T-PAIN I'm Sprung 45 53 -8 0.3016
13 12 MARIAH CAREY Don't Forget About Us 41 37 4 0.2842
11 13 GWEN STEFANI Luxurious 40 38 2 0.2506
15 14 THREE 6 MAFIA Stay Fly 40 35 5 0.2637
16 15 DEM FRANCHIZE BOYZ I Think They Like Me 39 34 5 0.257
17 16 RAY J One Wish 38 34 4 0.2601
12 17 YING YANG TWINS Shake f/Pitbull 37 38 -1 0.2396
22 18 JUELZ SANTANA There It Go (The Whistle Song) 36 26 10 0.2169
26 19 BLACK EYED PEAS Don't Lie 35 24 11 0.2521
14 20 MARCOS HERNANDEZ If You Were Mine 35 35 0 0.2403

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18 21 RIHANNA If It's Lovin' That You Want 35 31 4 0.2153
23 22 NE-YO So Sick 34 25 9 0.2038
19 23 BEYONCE Check On It f/Slim Thug 31 26 5 0.1657
20 24 D4L Laffy Taffy 31 26 5 0.1935
25 25 ALL-AMERICAN REJECTS Dirty Little Secret 28 24 4 0.1596
29 26 EMINEM When I'm Gone 27 24 3 0.16
30 27 NELLY Grillz (f/Paul Wall, Ali&Gipp) 27 24 3 0.176
27 28 MARIAH CAREY Shake It Off 26 24 2 0.1689
28 29 CHAMILLIONAIRE Turn It Up 26 24 2 0.1445
21 30 RIHANNA Pon De Replay 25 26 -1 0.1786

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[Matt4319]

Songs I like on the Green Bay station:

#1 hits on my personal chart
FALL OUT BOY Dance, Dance

Top 10
GOO GOO DOLLS Better Days
MARC BROUSSARD Home
WEEZER Perfect Situation
KILLERS All These Things That I've Done
BOWLING FOR SOUP 1985

Top 20
ALANIS MORISSETTE Crazy
ALL-AMERICAN REJECTS Dirty Little Secret
LIFEHOUSE You And Me
ROB THOMAS Lonely No More

Top 30
COLLECTIVE SOUL Better Now

Top 50
INXS Pretty Vegas
NICKELBACK Photograph
ROB THOMAS Ever The Same
TOMMY LEE Good Times (f/ Butch Walker)
RELIENT K Who I Am Hates Who I've Been
STAIND Right Here
LIFEHOUSE Blind

Songs I like on the Milwaukee station:

Top 10
GORILLAZ Feel Good Inc
FALL OUT BOY Sugar, We're Going Down

Top 20
THREE 6 MAFIA Stay Fly
ALL-AMERICAN REJECTS Dirty Little Secret

Top 30
NICKELBACK Photograph

Top 50
KELLY CLARKSON Because Of You
GWEN STEFANI Luxurious
NE-YO So Sick
EMINEM When I'm Gone

Twice as many songs on the Green Bay station hit my top 50. I'm going with Green Bay.

[Adonis the DemiGod!]

I was hoping for a better mix but I have to go with the second one.

[Ky]

I see the point of the comparison, but I can't really say I like the Green Bay station better. Both have bands I could do without (Simple Plan, Staind, Bowling For Soup, Click Five/most (but not all) of the rap). Both are holding on to some songs too long (Don't Cha, Pon De Replay, Lonely No More/Feel Good Inc, Don't Lie, Pon De Replay).

[friday]

My answer is neither. Obviously, the Green Bay station looks like a Hot AC station with a few Rhythmic songs thrown in. (It actually looks like a VH1 playlist to me. ) And obviously, the Milwaukee station is the exact opposite.

This is probably going to be another one of those "We need more Hot AC songs on Pop radio" discussions. And while I think the format at large could stand to play a little more pop-rock-type of songs, I'm not sure either of these are an ideal pop playlist. I mean, whatever happened to the golden mean?

[GiggaWho]

The Milwaukee station is also my local station. I've always considered it a pop-leaning rhythmic station, frankly. Tossing in the occasional Kelly Clarkson or Fall Out Boy doesn't suddenly make you pop. But I don't think we have an official rhythmic station, so that's probably why it's the way it is. Especially when we have two major Hot AC stations in town.

From the Green Bay station, 7 songs made my personal chart. 5 of the Milwaukee did. So it's pretty close to even there, but overall I'd probably prefer the Green Bay playlist.

[Arson]

Both are pretty unbalanced. I would prefer the Green Bay station since I like pop-rock music more. But really, the Green Bay station has even less variety in genres than the Milwaukee station. At least the Milwaukee station has "Photograph" in its Top 5, whereas "Run It" is nowhere to be found in the Green Bay top 30 (not that I like the song, but for a self-proclaimed CHR/Pop station, that's ridiculous).

There are songs I'm very bored of on both stations, too.

[Slinky]

If I have to pick one, I'll take the Green Bay station, but I agree with everything Friday said about neither being ideal. I think I'd go crazy if my local CHR was still playing songs like:

4 3 COLLECTIVE SOUL Better Now 62 60 2 0.3163
7 7 MARC BROUSSARD Home 38 34 4 0.1818
8 8 PUSSYCAT DOLLS Don't Cha 36 33 3 0.1945
14 13 BETTER THAN EZRA A Lifetime 31 30 1 0.1493
13 16 3 DOORS DOWN Here By Me 27 30 -3 0.1198
16 17 KILLERS All These Things That I've Don 27 29 -2 0.1581
9 18 RIHANNA Pon De Replay 27 32 -5 0.1399
11 20 TOMMY LEE Good Times (f/ Butch Walker) 25 31 -6 0.1148
30 27 ROB THOMAS Lonely No More 16 16 0 0.0755
46 29 BOWLING FOR SOUP 1985 15 11 4 0.0817

... at the rate the Green Bay station plays them, even though I like some of those songs. All-rap stations bore me, but so do recurrent-heavy no-rap stations.

[Moonshadow]

Green Bay's playlist looks very stale, while the other looks very...generic.

[John77]

The Green Bay station is A LOT closer to how CHR/Pop SHOULD sound today than the Milwaukee one, that's for sure... but they are BOTH very unbalanced...

If the Green Bay station could add the current PCD, Mariah, Gwen & Natasha Bedingfield hits to the mix and some Shakira and Madonna, they would be pretty close to what a CHR should sound like... The Milwaukee station needs almost a complete overhaul... I only like 7 of their top 30 at the moment...

That said, the Milwaukee station is better than my CHR!!! I would love if my CHR here in L.A., KIIS FM at least played Gorillaz and Nickelback... they briefly played Gorillaz and NEVER played "Photograph". :(  I HATE Clear Channel and how they are DESTROYING L.A. radio!

[John77]

slinky said:

If I have to pick one, I'll take the Green Bay station, but I agree with everything Friday said about neither being ideal.  I think I'd go crazy if my local CHR was still playing songs like:

4 3 COLLECTIVE SOUL Better Now 62 60 2 0.3163
7 7 MARC BROUSSARD Home 38 34 4 0.1818
8 8 PUSSYCAT DOLLS Don't Cha 36 33 3 0.1945
14 13 BETTER THAN EZRA A Lifetime 31 30 1 0.1493
13 16 3 DOORS DOWN Here By Me 27 30 -3 0.1198
16 17 KILLERS All These Things That I've Don 27 29 -2 0.1581
9 18 RIHANNA Pon De Replay 27 32 -5 0.1399
11 20 TOMMY LEE Good Times (f/ Butch Walker) 25 31 -6 0.1148
30 27 ROB THOMAS Lonely No More 16 16 0 0.0755
46 29 BOWLING FOR SOUP 1985 15 11 4 0.0817

... at the rate the Green Bay station plays them, even though I like some of those songs.  All-rap stations bore me, but so do recurrent-heavy no-rap stations.

This is WAY TOO MANY times to be spinning your recurrents... other than Rob Thomas' and maybe Rhianna's song, I don't think any of these songs should be getting more than 10 spins a week...  I'm thinking they must have added Collective Soul recently... they're playing it like a current... I know Hot AC KRUZ 97.5 in Santa Barbara/Oxnard/Ventura CA was REALLY late on that song too and had it as a current at last check too...