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Post by bks on Jan 3, 2009 10:43:57 GMT -5
Yeah, this is off to a very strong start...No. 35 on the building BDS Country chart right now.
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Post by leilamaurizia on Jan 6, 2009 6:22:39 GMT -5
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Post by kevin59 on Jan 7, 2009 21:05:14 GMT -5
[LISTEN] Tim McGraw - "Nothin' To Die For"
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Post by Marv on Jan 31, 2009 22:26:04 GMT -5
It would appear that Tim and Toby Keith have both redeemed themselves in the eyes (and ears) of country music fans (and PDs) inasmuch as the second half of 2008 was much better to both of them than the first half.
The fact that both of them miseed the top ten with back-to-back singles, almost certainly since both of them became format megastars in the mid-to-late nineties, really boggles the mind.
'Nothin' To Die For' appears to be headed to #1, even with some very formidable competition from Carrie Underwood and Rascal Flatts.
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Post by gcizvolsfan on Feb 17, 2009 0:21:42 GMT -5
'Nothin' To Die For' appears to be headed to #1. This will be top 10 soon and maybe Marv is right. If they get the 7th release to #1 then maybe they will release an 8th one that people actually like
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Post by Lee on Feb 17, 2009 1:27:21 GMT -5
They might as well release all they can since they will likely lose Tim within the next few years.
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Post by joey2002 on Feb 17, 2009 13:42:06 GMT -5
yeah i think he already said he was gone from curb records once he waits his contract out
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Post by Marv on Mar 1, 2009 23:32:34 GMT -5
Well he's back in the top ten again; I guess it's safe to say that he and Toby have ended their respective 'slumps' at country radio.
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Post by drock89 on Mar 2, 2009 0:55:33 GMT -5
We'll he's back in the top ten again; I guess it's safe to say that he and Toby have ended their respective 'slumps' at country radio. Or that maybe they've just recorded better material? I still find it surprising that "Let It Go" and this had success when the artist explicitly stated he did not support their commercial release. I guess that shows the power of a record label..
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Post by austin on Mar 2, 2009 10:52:53 GMT -5
We'll he's back in the top ten again; I guess it's safe to say that he and Toby have ended their respective 'slumps' at country radio. More likely radio is more willing to play this than the absolutely dreadful "Kristofferson".
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Post by Marv on Mar 2, 2009 13:08:52 GMT -5
In the case of TK, I agree with you; 'She's A Hottie' & 'Get My Drink On' were just horrible songs; thank goodness that neither one reached #1 as did the equally dreadful 'Who's Your Daddy' in January of 2003.
Insofar as TM is concerned, poor single selection was his biggest culprit, or whomever at his label was responsible his singles.
If Curb Records had released either 'Train #10' or 'Whiskey And You' instead of 'Last Dollar' as his follow-up to the scintillating 'My Little Girl' in December of 2006, he might have wound up with the #1 single of the year for the fifth time in his career.
This CD is quite good, but the choices for singles have been anything but.
In spite of all that, I do expect this to reach #1 by the end of April.
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Post by Zazie on Mar 2, 2009 22:16:56 GMT -5
Inflation strikes again. Instead of the usual "this is an excellent song" or "that is an awful one" with no argument being made in support -- and that's weak enough -- we're now going to claim that an unreleased song "might have wound up" as the top song of the year.
Look, if you like a song (or don't), say so. It's even better if you specify why you do (or don't), because... no, wait, I'm all wrong here. It's not important to specify anything. In fact, please don't. I have a modest proposal that might help.
Please don't think you have to stop at #1 song of the year. Why not #1 song of the century? Best song of all time in any genre? Nobel-prize winning literary effort? Why stop at such a modest claim? Go ahead and say what you really think! As long as you have no reasons for your assertion, the bigger the better.
Throw in a few smiley faces and we're in business!
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Post by bks on Mar 4, 2009 20:16:16 GMT -5
For what it's worth, a lot of the songs mentioned here as sure fire hits are the least popular downloads on Tim's album -- a pretty good indication of what will be a hit.
For instance, Train #10 is by far the least downloaded song w/ only 3,927 to date. Whiskey And You has only outsold Train #10, I'm Workin' and Shotgun Rider w/ 9,411.
Between The River And Me is the most popular album track. However, all the songs which have ended up being singles had outsold it before being worked to radio with the exception of Nothin' To Die For.
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Post by joey2002 on Mar 4, 2009 22:13:51 GMT -5
"Between The River and Me" is the type of song that people either totally love or hate, and for that reason would have the potential to be a huge hit. (think "goodbye earl" - or more recently a less controversial one - "before he cheats")
Personally I think that "Nothin' to Die For" is lyrically the best song on the original album...and i can't believe they have released a half dozen other songs before this one!
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Mar 5, 2009 10:24:44 GMT -5
I think that the label definitely had balls by releasing "Suspicions" and "Kristofferson" as they're both outside the "norms" of country radio. "Let It Go" and this song both have interesting melodies but VERY pedestrian lyrics, and I've found both to be fairly disappointing.
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Post by Zazie on Mar 5, 2009 10:39:11 GMT -5
Turning to Tim McGraw for lyrics is like going to ********* for vocal quality. (Hey, the board censored me so I wouldn't hurt anybody's feelings!) Think about it -- Last Dollar. Now there's a set of lyrics. And if Last Dollar isn't bad enough, just Watch the Wind Blow By, because She's My Kind of Refried Dreams.
Not saying he doesn't occasionally, perhaps even intentionally, find his way to good lyrics. He's recorded Rodney Crowell songs. But it seems random because that's not what he looks for in his material. And that's worked awfully well for him, and awfully for me, over the years. All together now: one, two, three....
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Mar 5, 2009 11:25:29 GMT -5
Turning to Tim McGraw for lyrics is like going to ********* for vocal quality. (Hey, the board censored me so I wouldn't hurt anybody's feelings!) Think about it -- Last Dollar. Now there's a set of lyrics. And if Last Dollar isn't bad enough, just Watch the Wind Blow By, because She's My Kind of Refried Dreams. Not saying he doesn't occasionally, perhaps even intentionally, find his way to good lyrics. He's recorded Rodney Crowell songs. But it seems random because that's not what he looks for in his material. And that's worked awfully well for him, and awfully for me, over the years. All together now: one, two, three.... I wasn't expecting him to turn up a quality lyric every time. Heck, I didn't even like the Rodney Crowell song that he cut, not even Crowell's own version from 1995. I found that song to be largely cliché. "Last Dollar" I can tolerate just because it doesn't try to be anything more than a goofy little song. Seriously though, I agree with the inconsistency of his material. It's disappointing to hear him go from something unusual like "I Need You" (great, dark lyrics in this one) to soundbites like "Let It Go" and "Nothin' to Die For". Not that every song has to be a masterpiece, but it is a bit disappointing to hear an artist go so far from one extreme to the other as often as Tim does, even if he is the kind of artist that relies almost exclusively on outside material.
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Post by joey2002 on Mar 5, 2009 12:19:32 GMT -5
one....two....(change the station)
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Post by Zazie on Mar 5, 2009 12:33:51 GMT -5
I wasn't even thinking of Please Remember Me, which my wife likes but I find a bit overwritten. Brave new world? Please. Not Rodney's best. (Rodney is one of my favorites, but even Rodney misfires on occasion.)
I was thinking of Open Season On My Heart, but maybe someone other than Tim sang that one? I could be wrong. I'm pretty sure he sang a Darrell Scott song, too -- that would be Old Town New.
Maybe it's some other Tim McGraw I'm thinking of, and I don't have time to check thoroughly. Anyway, I Need You is an example of him recording something that's beautifully written, an oasis in the middle of some arid regions -- I guess that's where you find an oasis, but still, we ought to know by now that Tim isn't going to focus on lyrics when he records something.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Mar 5, 2009 15:53:30 GMT -5
ut still, we ought to know by now that Tim isn't going to focus on lyrics when he records something. True, and I knew that before I replied. Like I said, it's just a big letdown to have him go from one extreme to the other, especially since he's falling into the trap of broad-stroke message songs. There's nothing wrong with a "safe" song, but if a song is going to try for an inspirational message of some sort, or some sort of message at all, I think that specifics make for a much larger emotional impact. Comparing one of his earlier songs, I think that "My Old Friend" lacks any sort of punch because it settles for the vague (and the clunky; "The times that we had, hangin' on my wall… They laugh and they cry me", blah blah blah, yakkidy smakkidy*). Compare this to another song from that same era, Tracy Lawrence's "If I Don't Make It Back", which also deals with the loss of a friend. By adding the little details such as what the soldier wants his buddies to do, should he not make it back — heck, just revealing that he's a soldier is a big step itself, and in this case I don't feel that it's contrived one iota — and then, through choice lines such as "Miller Lite ain't my brand", he reveals that indeed, the friend did not make it back. I'm not saying that EVERY song has to be along the lines of "If I Don't Make It Back", but I do find that songs that bother with specifics are much more compelling than songs that don't. *"Blah blah blah, yakkidy smakkidy" is copyright Hugh the Tasmanian Devil. Used with permission.
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Post by Marv on Mar 20, 2009 22:16:30 GMT -5
When it comes to inconsistency, he's downright infuriating, but for someone whose had tons of smashes for fourteen-plus years, there have been very few singles of his that have made me cringe.
I didn't like 'Please Remember Me' either, and Rodney Crowell's body of work speaks for itself, but at least he's back in the top ten, and headed much higher. with one of the better singles from a rather mismanaged CD.
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Post by ClevelandRox on Mar 20, 2009 23:16:31 GMT -5
Any news on if this is the official last single from this era? I'm ready to move on.
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Post by joey2002 on Mar 21, 2009 0:07:07 GMT -5
The latest news I've heard is that the record label is planning on releasing every last song from the album... ;)
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Post by Marv on Mar 29, 2009 0:07:16 GMT -5
This has to be the final single from 'Let It Go', IMHO the most ineptly marketed & promoted CD (as it relates to choices for singles) of any country format superstar of the past twenty years.
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Post by rowdawg21 on Apr 2, 2009 21:06:55 GMT -5
It looks like this might be on its way down. It has a loss of about 175k for the first three days of the week. Although that's not a huge loss, I'm thinking they might be letting the song fall now, perhaps because Tim will be singing a new song on the ACMs Sunday night. The next couple of days should tell if the song is really done.
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Post by robrt30 on Apr 3, 2009 10:22:39 GMT -5
^You could be right, but I think that might be jumping the gun a little. The song's only been on the chart for 15 weeks.
OTOH, the top 10 is jam packed right now so something might have to give -- although Darius is on the way down, Taylor's giving way now that her new single has leaked, and you'd have to figure that George will start falling once the push ends for him after this weekend. Those three giving way might be enough to allow everyone else in the top 10 to continue their marches.
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Post by Zazie on Apr 3, 2009 10:28:26 GMT -5
It's had a nice run for a 7th single, but I don't see how this one can outrun RF, labelmate Rodney, Aldean, and Carrie if she starts gaining more rapidly. I imagine Curb will focus on Rodney, whose own chances at #1 are diminishing these days but could still be revived.
New song this weekend? Why not a re-issue of Refried Dreams?
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Apr 3, 2009 19:27:40 GMT -5
It's had a nice run for a 7th single, but I don't see how this one can outrun RF, labelmate Rodney, Aldean, and Carrie if she starts gaining more rapidly. I imagine Curb will focus on Rodney, whose own chances at #1 are diminishing these days but could still be revived. New song this weekend? Why not a re-issue of Refried Dreams? I've heard there're still seventeen more singles off Let It Go. Clearly something's getting re-released.
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Post by someguy on Apr 8, 2009 16:32:54 GMT -5
Since there was no new song performed on Sunday, it looks like "Nothin' To Die For" isn't quite done yet. It's slightly rebounding, which should put it ahead of Darius and Taylor next week. Carrie may still pass him, which would onlt put him back up to #7 and not a new peak. It's still too soon to tell what will happen though.
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Post by mairy on Apr 9, 2009 8:10:01 GMT -5
This is done now. Let's bring the 8th single, Tim!
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