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Post by I Wish on May 24, 2009 0:54:51 GMT -5
If he releases it in early 2010.. it doesn't mean they gave him more say. It just means they couldn't find the right songs to give him, LOL. He'll probably write while on tour and present it to 19 and see what they say. I think he has great ideas judging from the album, but he needs help when it comes to production and final product. He'll be just fine. That's absolutely an assumption. If he gets more of a say & wants to write more material for the album, naturally he'll take longer to work on the album because he won't just be GETTING songs & recording them. Clearly. :) He's so relaxed about everything, I don't see him, personally, rushing to get an album out. Of course all that depends on his label. "No Boundaries" is still #2 on iTunes. At least it's consistant! :)
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Post by XXIX on May 24, 2009 1:10:39 GMT -5
LOL, he has no choice.
Honestly, I don't think he should be given complete freedom. His pre-idol is good, but it's nothing special. Like I said before he needs some help. They'll probably let him write. I don't see why they wouldn't if they let David Cook write as well.
But what I was saying is that if he write while on tour, which I'm sure he will, it should be enough time to get it recorded for the album anyway.
What producers do you guys what him to work with?
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Post by ZAYN on May 24, 2009 1:11:47 GMT -5
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Post by vandj4ever on May 24, 2009 1:20:15 GMT -5
I'd be very surprised if he didn't have an album out by Nov. The last winner who didn't was Taylor, and his was released in December. That not being the label's choice but Taylor not being ready for an earlier release. The label's desire is going to be to have an album out in time to catch holiday sales and capitalize on the AI exposure as soon as possible.
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Post by I Wish on May 24, 2009 3:17:47 GMT -5
LOL, he has no choice. Honestly, I don't think he should be given complete freedom. His pre-idol is good, but it's nothing special. Like I said before he needs some help. They'll probably let him write. I don't see why they wouldn't if they let David Cook write as well. But what I was saying is that if he write while on tour, which I'm sure he will, it should be enough time to get it recorded for the album anyway. Well Kris has mentioned being in a completely different place musically back then. (I'm assuming he means moodier? lol) Not to mention who knows what his budget to make it was. But I think it really depends on personal taste. ;) I'm hoping for at least half the album co-written by him, how much of Cook's album was co-written by him?
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Post by desertfloods on May 24, 2009 9:10:04 GMT -5
^ Where can I get the album? Anyway, about him going country. It seems like a good/bad idea. On the good side, if he makes it, he'll sell very well. But on the bad side, they may not accept him- didn't Carrie have a really hard time breaking in? And if you listen well, Taylor Swift's material sounds like acoutic pop Jazon Mraz with steely guitar. If Kris just adds some steely guitar.. there ya go! But it'd rather he'd just stick to what he's doing. He doesn't have to sell like Daughtry. He should just keep doing what he does best. He doesn't really want to be a superstar, and I don't want him to be a superstar either. He's gotten good exposure, and now his music can be introduced to a bigger audience. :) Carrie was pretty much embraced with open arms (mostly) by the country radios lol. But Carrie did country stuff all her life and also throughout Idol, unlike Kris.... Kris doesn't need to sell like Daughtry, but he still needs to have good sales, else the label would drop him if his sales aren't up the expectations... I just want him to at least sell enough to be able to make another album...
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Post by kcchica on May 24, 2009 9:26:04 GMT -5
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Surprisingly he is credited with 10/12 of the tracks....don't know how involved he was on all of them....I really think that Idol winners have slightly more control than they use to. At least the males do.
The studio version of Falling Slowly is wonderful, you can tell why he chose that song when you listen to his pre Idol stuff.
Land of Smiles is a great effin song. And the one before that.....On Your Way I think it is called.
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Post by audiogarden on May 24, 2009 17:05:08 GMT -5
I bought the iTunes season pass, which means that I have purchased an album that was just freshly placed on the drawing board. That has to be a first, but I am that certain it is going to be good.
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Post by ZAYN on May 24, 2009 17:53:23 GMT -5
The @krisallenmusic on twitter, with 30,000 followers made it more than obvious they're fake...
"I'm on Ellen this Tuesday. And I'll be playing Heartless. I'm excited to see Ellen and for sure i will be so nervous on Tuesday about 17 hours ago from web"
LOLOL
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Post by blurple on May 24, 2009 17:55:36 GMT -5
The @krisallenmusic on twitter, with 30,000 followers made it more than obvious they're fake... "I'm on Ellen this Tuesday. And I'll be playing Heartless. I'm excited to see Ellen and for sure i will be so nervous on Tuesday about 17 hours ago from web" LOLOL It's quite sad/funny that are 30K people falling for the fake account.
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Post by shanz88 on May 24, 2009 18:54:42 GMT -5
Do any of the Idols have a Twitter account, other than Matt Giraud and Anoop? Specifically, Allison, Adam or Kris? I assume that Kris may not since so many people are prone to believe that that fake account is really him, but what about the other two?
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Post by blurple on May 24, 2009 19:00:35 GMT -5
They were not allowed to have Twitters while they are still in the competition. That's what Allison said in one interview.
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Post by shanz88 on May 24, 2009 20:00:01 GMT -5
Ah okay so the last of them are all probably too busy to have made one since then ... Good to know, thanks!!
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Post by jessluvsnick on May 24, 2009 20:41:00 GMT -5
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Post by ZAYN on May 24, 2009 22:16:04 GMT -5
Some struggling, but overall...really pleasant!
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Post by desertfloods on May 24, 2009 23:46:26 GMT -5
The @krisallenmusic on twitter, with 30,000 followers made it more than obvious they're fake... "I'm on Ellen this Tuesday. And I'll be playing Heartless. I'm excited to see Ellen and for sure i will be so nervous on Tuesday about 17 hours ago from web" LOLOL That hardly sounds like Kris LOL ..... plus he plays No Boundaries on Ellen too
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Post by hellothere on May 25, 2009 2:03:17 GMT -5
I guess I'm a little late to the party, but, I am so happy for Kris. Legitimate musicians winning American Idol two years in a row. Who woulda thunk it? While I think that Kara should be drug out into the street and shot for writing the steaming pile of lyrical dung that is No Boundaries, I have to admit that it is growing on me. I have heard it on the radio a couple of times already and he just sounds like he belongs there, ya know? I have looked into his pre-Idol stuff as well, and I really enjoy it. I hope he gets a high level of involvement when it comes to choosing (and writing) the material for his album. My only concern for him is that the same people who worked so tirelessly to push him into the background on Idol (not airing his audition or the Green Mile sing-off, consistently giving him underwhelming feedback and/or damning him with faint praise in order to serve their own bizarre agenda of making good TV and forgetting that they were looking for a recording artist) are now in charge of managing his career. Hopefully, they won't act like pissy babies because they didn't get their way (although it would have been hilarious if they had, IMO, gotten their Blake Lewis with better costumes, less beatboxing, and screechier voice). I hope they realize a gem has been dropped into their laps and respond accordingly.
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Post by I Wish on May 25, 2009 3:51:18 GMT -5
I guess I'm a little late to the party, but, I am so happy for Kris. Legitimate musicians winning American Idol two years in a row. Who woulda thunk it? While I think that Kara should be drug out into the street and shot for writing the steaming pile of lyrical dung that is No Boundaries, I have to admit that it is growing on me. I have heard it on the radio a couple of times already and he just sounds like he belongs there, ya know? I have looked into his pre-Idol stuff as well, and I really enjoy it. I hope he gets a high level of involvement when it comes to choosing (and writing) the material for his album. My only concern for him is that the same people who worked so tirelessly to push him into the background on Idol (not airing his audition or the Green Mile sing-off, consistently giving him underwhelming feedback and/or damning him with faint praise in order to serve their own bizarre agenda of making good TV and forgetting that they were looking for a recording artist) are now in charge of managing his career. Hopefully, they won't act like pissy babies because they didn't get their way (although it would have been hilarious if they had, IMO, gotten their Blake Lewis with better costumes, less beatboxing, and screechier voice). I hope they realize a gem has been dropped into their laps and respond accordingly. I've been hearing people worry about that. I'm kinda worried too. I mean, I'm sure they won't screw him over completely, but I could imagine what would happen if Kris & Adam release their album a week apart like the two David's did. Your post was very well written. I'm glad that others see just how great Kris is and how much potential he has to really make it in the long run.
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Post by vinyl on May 25, 2009 7:58:58 GMT -5
The @krisallenmusic on twitter, with 30,000 followers made it more than obvious they're fake... "I'm on Ellen this Tuesday. And I'll be playing Heartless. I'm excited to see Ellen and for sure i will be so nervous on Tuesday about 17 hours ago from web" LOLOL That hardly sounds like Kris LOL ..... plus he plays No Boundaries on Ellen too And it was written AFTER he went on Ellen. ;)
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Post by blue in moonlight on May 25, 2009 10:40:53 GMT -5
I guess I'm a little late to the party, but, I am so happy for Kris. Legitimate musicians winning American Idol two years in a row. Who woulda thunk it? While I think that Kara should be drug out into the street and shot for writing the steaming pile of lyrical dung that is No Boundaries, I have to admit that it is growing on me. I have heard it on the radio a couple of times already and he just sounds like he belongs there, ya know? I have looked into his pre-Idol stuff as well, and I really enjoy it. I hope he gets a high level of involvement when it comes to choosing (and writing) the material for his album. My only concern for him is that the same people who worked so tirelessly to push him into the background on Idol (not airing his audition or the Green Mile sing-off, consistently giving him underwhelming feedback and/or damning him with faint praise in order to serve their own bizarre agenda of making good TV and forgetting that they were looking for a recording artist) are now in charge of managing his career. Hopefully, they won't act like pissy babies because they didn't get their way ( although it would have been hilarious if they had, IMO, gotten their Blake Lewis with better costumes, less beatboxing, and screechier voice). I hope they realize a gem has been dropped into their laps and respond accordingly. Adam is nothing like Blake Lewis. Please explain your basis for this comparison.
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Post by ZAYN on May 25, 2009 10:53:05 GMT -5
More updates from the faker...I find them FUNNY
just wanna let you know that i co-write some of the songs in my album that im hoping it would be released not later than this year. about 6 hours ago from web
the album consists of 12 tracks as usual but we are trying our very best to put some of the songs from my album brand new shoes as a bonus.. about 6 hours ago from web
And almost forgot it would be 13 as well because the song "No Boundaries" is a sure track (bonus) in the album. about 6 hours ago from web
Who is this person and why do they think that is fun?
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Post by britfan on May 25, 2009 11:52:26 GMT -5
More updates from the faker...I find them FUNNY just wanna let you know that i co-write some of the songs in my album that im hoping it would be released not later than this year. about 6 hours ago from web the album consists of 12 tracks as usual but we are trying our very best to put some of the songs from my album brand new shoes as a bonus.. about 6 hours ago from web And almost forgot it would be 13 as well because the song "No Boundaries" is a sure track (bonus) in the album. about 6 hours ago from web Who is this person and why do they think that is fun? LOL. Its sad that someone would actually believe thats Kris. He hasn't even started on the album, he just won like five days ago!
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Post by hellothere on May 25, 2009 13:32:35 GMT -5
I guess I'm a little late to the party, but, I am so happy for Kris. Legitimate musicians winning American Idol two years in a row. Who woulda thunk it? While I think that Kara should be drug out into the street and shot for writing the steaming pile of lyrical dung that is No Boundaries, I have to admit that it is growing on me. I have heard it on the radio a couple of times already and he just sounds like he belongs there, ya know? I have looked into his pre-Idol stuff as well, and I really enjoy it. I hope he gets a high level of involvement when it comes to choosing (and writing) the material for his album. My only concern for him is that the same people who worked so tirelessly to push him into the background on Idol (not airing his audition or the Green Mile sing-off, consistently giving him underwhelming feedback and/or damning him with faint praise in order to serve their own bizarre agenda of making good TV and forgetting that they were looking for a recording artist) are now in charge of managing his career. Hopefully, they won't act like pissy babies because they didn't get their way ( although it would have been hilarious if they had, IMO, gotten their Blake Lewis with better costumes, less beatboxing, and screechier voice). I hope they realize a gem has been dropped into their laps and respond accordingly. Adam is nothing like Blake Lewis. Please explain your basis for this comparison. Sure, no problem. What Adam does is very entertaining and makes for great TV. But.....what he does went "out of style" about two decades ago and doesn't really have any place in modern radio, IMO.
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Post by XXIX on May 25, 2009 13:52:12 GMT -5
I guess I'm a little late to the party, but, I am so happy for Kris. Legitimate musicians winning American Idol two years in a row. Who woulda thunk it? While I think that Kara should be drug out into the street and shot for writing the steaming pile of lyrical dung that is No Boundaries, I have to admit that it is growing on me. I have heard it on the radio a couple of times already and he just sounds like he belongs there, ya know? I have looked into his pre-Idol stuff as well, and I really enjoy it. I hope he gets a high level of involvement when it comes to choosing (and writing) the material for his album. My only concern for him is that the same people who worked so tirelessly to push him into the background on Idol (not airing his audition or the Green Mile sing-off, consistently giving him underwhelming feedback and/or damning him with faint praise in order to serve their own bizarre agenda of making good TV and forgetting that they were looking for a recording artist) are now in charge of managing his career. Hopefully, they won't act like pissy babies because they didn't get their way ( although it would have been hilarious if they had, IMO, gotten their Blake Lewis with better costumes, less beatboxing, and screechier voice). I hope they realize a gem has been dropped into their laps and respond accordingly. Adam is nothing like Blake Lewis. Please explain your basis for this comparison. I thought he meant Danny and not Adam, LOL.
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Post by maxsultan on May 25, 2009 14:07:37 GMT -5
I am hoping his CD is largely on the acoustc side of things. I dont want too much over production. I also hope Kris writes a lot of material for it. I have listened to some of his pre-idol written music and there is some really good material there.
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Post by blue in moonlight on May 25, 2009 14:36:09 GMT -5
Adam is nothing like Blake Lewis. Please explain your basis for this comparison. Sure, no problem. What Adam does is very entertaining and makes for great TV. But.....what he does went "out of style" about two decades ago and doesn't really have any place in modern radio, IMO. Have you listened to Adam's demos? His studio versions? It's easy to say that Adam has no place on modern radio when you're looking at his performances of old songs on what's essentially a karaoke show. An album is an entirely different ball game. Adam could easily be marketable if presented with better material that not only fits him but supports his voice. He already has the look and the swagger and he's much more relevant than people like Blake, Taylor, Clay, Ruben, etc. with a better instrument to boot. Male vocalists of his magnitude are virtually non-existent in popular music at the moment but theatrical acts are making a comeback. Hence the comparison I've seen of Adam to female sensations like Lady GaGa. He can conceivably be huge if the product is right because there is no one working his side of the corner. I think this is why the Idol producers were licking their chops. He has a high reward factor if he gets it right. By contrast, Kris is a safer choice and a good bet to have a decent career but I believe he has a lower reward factor. I will agree that Kris is more marketable in the current climate but he also has much more competition. Does he have anything that's going to make him stand out against the likes of John Mayer, Jason Mraz, Gavin DeGraw, Matt Nathanson, etc.? Well, he is cuter than them. :)
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Post by hellothere on May 25, 2009 20:39:43 GMT -5
Sure, no problem. What Adam does is very entertaining and makes for great TV. But.....what he does went "out of style" about two decades ago and doesn't really have any place in modern radio, IMO. Have you listened to Adam's demos? His studio versions? It's easy to say that Adam has no place on modern radio when you're looking at his performances of old songs on what's essentially a karaoke show. An album is an entirely different ball game. Adam could easily be marketable if presented with better material that not only fits him but supports his voice. He already has the look and the swagger and he's much more relevant than people like Blake, Taylor, Clay, Ruben, etc. with a better instrument to boot. Male vocalists of his magnitude are virtually non-existent in popular music at the moment but theatrical acts are making a comeback. Hence the comparison I've seen of Adam to female sensations like Lady GaGa. He can conceivably be huge if the product is right because there is no one working his side of the corner. I think this is why the Idol producers were licking their chops. He has a high reward factor if he gets it right. By contrast, Kris is a safer choice and a good bet to have a decent career but I believe he has a lower reward factor. I will agree that Kris is more marketable in the current climate but he also has much more competition. Does he have anything that's going to make him stand out against the likes of John Mayer, Jason Mraz, Gavin DeGraw, Matt Nathanson, etc.? Well, he is cuter than them. :) Have I listened to Adam's studio recordings? Well, I tried to and I give myself an "E" for effort. That's the thing about him: those who like him say he has an exceptional vocal range; those who don't like him say his voice is like nails on a chalkboard. I guess that means I don't like him then, because my ears tell me the latter. There are a lot of ifs in your analysis. Basically, IF Adam is given the right material, IF he is able to create his own brand-new music genre (sorry, one Lady Gaga does not constitute a theatrical resurgence) and IF radio is open to it, he COULD be huge because he MIGHT corner a heretofore untapped market. OK. We'll agree to disagree. Vocal ability notwithstanding, the exact same statements (substitute Ryan Cabrera, James Blunt and Maroon 5, respectively for Ms. Gaga) were made regarding Clay Aiken, Taylor Hicks and Blake Lewis. I'll believe it IF I see it. I also don't think the producers were salivating over "the next big thing". TV producers salivate over exciting performances, great costumes and a good TV show. They don't think that far ahead, sorry. And, it's much easier for Adam to stand out on a TV show where there is no one like him (see Fantasia, Hicks, Lewis, etc.) than in the music industry, which isn't generally so embracing of "new and different" or "old and recently polished". Is there competition in Kris' market? You bet. But it is an existing market and I see no reason to screw over what is an excellent bet for at the least a decent career. And, yeah, his looks aren't exactly a deterrent, LOL.
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Post by ₫anny Jerz ♔ on May 25, 2009 21:13:23 GMT -5
Let's not turn this into American Idol Discussion Part 125362. We should just stick to Kris here.
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Post by Pump It on May 25, 2009 21:55:00 GMT -5
Both of his performances on Ellen were amazing. I love "No Boundaries" acoustically so much better!
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