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Post by nitro on Jul 16, 2009 9:52:14 GMT -5
I love all my old school divas... Mariah, Madonna, Whitney, Cher, Janet. We all do. Why bicker? All of them hold special places in our heart... we should unite, not fight each other, to keep them alive and not have them replaced by the newbies, not that I don't like the newbies either. I do love me some Bee and Britney. I won't comment on who I don't like.
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Post by Caution on Jul 16, 2009 9:54:01 GMT -5
new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/hiphopmediatraining/153417/mariah-turns-mean-girl-in-obsessed-video/Mariah Turns "Mean Girl" In "Obsessed" VideoPosted Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:05am PDT by Billy Johnson, Jr. in Hip-Hop Media Training I just watched Mariah's video for "Obsessed," the first single from her new album, "Memoirs of An Imperfect Angel," due out on August 25.
Good job Mariah. This video is clever and funny. It is your best video yet.
I especially like when your Eminem-like character gets hit by a bus. Bam. I didn't know you could be so mean. I am impressed. Mariah's husband Nick Cannon said the song is not about Eminem. "I don't think that she would take her time," Cannon told MTV. "My wife doesn't beef. She's Mariah Carey. She's not beefin', she's a vegetarian."
Nick Cannon is a good husband. He totally loves, supports and defends his wife until the end.
But come on. No believes that explanation. If we just look at the video alone, it is a bit easier to pretend that it is not about Eminem who took jabs at Mariah and Nick on the song "Bagpipes From Baghdad." Nick said the video was inspired by the movie "Mean Girls" which is apparently where Mariah borrowed the line, "Why are you so obsessed with me?"
In the video, Mariah isn't feuding with a rapper. She is being followed by a male stalker, a character she portrays in the Brett Ratner directed clip. The creepy goateed stalker pops up as a doorman at her hotel, an assistant on a photo shoot, and follows her as she walks down the street. She also plays a character wearing an Eminem-styled fleece hoodie and lives in a Mariah shrine with walls lined with her photos.
While an Eminem slant in the video is arguable, there is no debate that the controversial Slim Shady MC is the subject of Mariah's lyrics. A week prior to the release of Eminem's "Relapse" album, the "Bagpipes From Baghdad" song leaked. Eminem rapped, "Mariah, whatever happened to us, why did we ever have to break up?" Then his sarcasm ensued with derogatory references to Mariah and Nick.
A month later, Mariah released "Obsessed" and there was no argument that the song was a response to the rapper she briefly dated years ago. The song attacks a "delusional" detractor who claims to be "sexin'" her. She blames his drug use for his lies. "Tellin' the world how much you miss me, but we never were so why you trippin'," Mariah sings. On "Bagpipes" Eminem claimed to have been intimate with Mariah. It is part of the reason why Nick went on a psychopathic rampage after the song's release. And everyone knows about Eminem's drug problems. His album is called "Relapse." Who else could Mariah be talking about?
I understand why Mariah would imply that the song and video are not about Eminem. It would look bad if Mariah more obviously engaged in a public feud with Em. As her lyric goes, "[he is] a mom and pop and [she is] a corporation."
I actually appreciate her more subtle digs at the rapper who disses everyone.
You win Mariah.
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Post by rellybois on Jul 16, 2009 10:07:37 GMT -5
Everyone just give up trying to convince the lambs that this is underperforming... despite the fact that all the signs are obvious and it is clearly not doing great, lambs will always find a reason why it's someone else's fault and the song is actually doing amazingly. LOL @ the Lady Gaga fans collaborating with the Christina Aguilera fans to expose Mariah's flop. These diva wars are really back biting. I understand why you'd think I'm a Gaga s*tan, but I just happen to like that avatar. Yes, I do love Gaga, but I realize that pop music isn't that important in the grand scheme and would never bother to try to bring down other artists for the sake of my favorite. I really don't get the whole fanwar thing... like seriously, they make fun music, who cares about establishing that YOUR favorite is the queen of CHR over her rival?
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Post by MOWE on Jul 16, 2009 10:09:21 GMT -5
You know what's funny. All of Eminem's singles from his latest CD flopped on Pop radio. *IF* 'Obsessed' flops on Pop radio, she and Em would have something in common lol. You just can't seperate those two.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Jul 16, 2009 11:05:09 GMT -5
58 50 MARIAH CAREY Obsessed 475 277 198 2.180
+21 spins +11 bullet +0.017 AI
486 spins away from Flo Rida, #40 (+29) 475 spins away from Tina Parol, #41 (+2) 311 spins away from Beyonce, #42 (+7) 306 spins away from Pitbull, #43 (- 23) 175 spins away from Seether, #44 (+37) 126 spins away from Green Day, #45 (- 14) 92 spins away from Justin Bieber, #46 (+14) 83 spins away from Paradiso Girls, #47 (+1) 42 spins away from Carolina Liar, #48 (+36) 3 spins away from Young Money, #49 (+5)
She should pass CL and YM by Sunday. Flo Rida will be purged and Brit will go recurrent. She'll be #46 by Sunday.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2009 11:22:02 GMT -5
perezhilton.com/2009-07-16-mariah-carey-is-doaMariah is not on fire. Her tepid new single, Obsession, has had a mediocre showing on the Billboard's Top 100. Despite weeks of radio play, the song failed to crack the chart. The single went on sale last week and finally debuted on the Hot 100 - at a disappointing #11. Expect a big drop-off next week! And what's an even bigger hit to Mimi's diva ego is that Miley Cyrus's new single (Does the name really matter?) debuted a spot above MiMi's, killing her shot of even making the top ten. When Hannah Montana is beating you in the charts, you know you have a serious problem. Maybe next time MC.
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Post by Alex on Jul 16, 2009 11:38:09 GMT -5
Please stop saying Mariah is flopping. Let's do analysis on radio real quick for you doubters...
RHYTHMIC 17 14 MARIAH CAREY Obsessed 2591 2025 566 15.893 Second highest bullet on the format. Will be Top 10 next week. Will be Top 2, if not #1 on the format. Case closed!
POP 58 50 MARIAH CAREY Obsessed 475 277 198 2.180 Small but rising Pop bullet. Adds date isn't until 7/28. This is coming off 3 flops on the format, let's give her a break.
URBAN Solid bullet, will be Top 10 in 2 weeks. Top 5 on the format is a guarantee.
All in all. OBSESSED is doing great and should be at 70+ Million impressions will CD drops.
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Post by rellybois on Jul 16, 2009 11:45:14 GMT -5
The Obsessed cover is so frickin frightening... has anyone noticed her HANDS? WTF??
When Photoshop is misused its a scary scary thing...
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Post by ₫anny Jerz ♔ on Jul 16, 2009 11:46:13 GMT -5
Who the hell seriously visits Perez's site anymore?
Decent Pop update.
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Post by aTunes on Jul 16, 2009 11:49:15 GMT -5
The Obsessed cover is so frickin frightening... has anyone noticed her HANDS? WTF?? When Photoshop is misused its a scary scary thing... Who can notice hands, when that giant mole is hogging all the attention?
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Post by xmusikk on Jul 16, 2009 11:52:24 GMT -5
The Obsessed cover is so frickin frightening... has anyone noticed her HANDS? WTF?? When Photoshop is misused its a scary scary thing... I know sometimes is hard because she covers it constantly with over the top make up, fabrics and objects BUT Have you seen Lady GaGa's face?! WTF?? It is a scary scary thing...
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Post by cking33 on Jul 16, 2009 11:53:57 GMT -5
Who the hell seriously visits Perez's site anymore? Decent Pop update. If people listened to him, the BEP would be blacklisted. Obviously, that's hardly the case.
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Post by xmusikk on Jul 16, 2009 12:00:50 GMT -5
Please stop saying Mariah is flopping. Let's do analysis on radio real quick for you doubters... RHYTHMIC 17 14 MARIAH CAREY Obsessed 2591 2025 566 15.893 Second highest bullet on the format. Will be Top 10 next week. Will be Top 2, if not #1 on the format. Case closed! POP 58 50 MARIAH CAREY Obsessed 475 277 198 2.180 Small but rising Pop bullet. Adds date isn't until 7/28. This is coming off 3 flops on the format, let's give her a break. URBAN Solid bullet, will be Top 10 in 2 weeks. Top 5 on the format is a guarantee. All in all. OBSESSED is doing great and should be at 70+ Million impressions will CD drops. Don't waste your time. No matter how well the song or any song of hers for that matter does, they'll always say she's flopping. I've come to the conclusion that Mariah's own success has become her curse. She's has dominated the charts for so long and so high, that people have so much expectations that if the song doesn't reach #1 and on record time she's consider a flop. I blame her own fans, and the h@ters just feed on that to make it even worse. Every other act releases a song and mostly everyone enjoys the run of that particular song. But when it comes to Mariah people immediately focuses on how big of a hit it will become, or not. Why can we just enjoy the music?
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Post by Alex on Jul 16, 2009 12:16:09 GMT -5
xmusikk, you are 100% correct. She is so damn successful that it's like if she's not #1 for 14 weeks (a la WBT) then the song is a FAIL and FLOP, her label is incompetent, and the era is a "mess". Fans should know how songs work by now. If an artist comes from a FLOP, its THAT much harder to get the next single to be a hit. Its like a proven fact! We've seen it time and time again.
FACT. ByeBye, Long Time, and Stay In love flopped. So its 3X as hard for Pop to play her song OBSESSED which is being seen. However, the song is so good Pop is slowly coming around.
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Post by xmusikk on Jul 16, 2009 12:23:03 GMT -5
xmusikk, you are 100% correct. She is so damn successful that it's like if she's not #1 for 14 weeks (a la WBT) then the song is a FAIL and FLOP, her label is incompetent, and the era is a "mess". Fans should know how songs work by now. If an artist comes from a FLOP, its THAT much harder to get the next single to be a hit. Its like a proven fact! We've seen it time and time again. FACT. ByeBye, Long Time, and Stay In love flopped. So its 3X as hard for Pop to play her song OBSESSED which is being seen. However, the song is so good Pop is slowly coming around. I also think Pop will eventually come around. I just hope by then is not too late. I really like this song, I think it's catchy, radio friendly, and the lyrics are clever. So far the song is doing pretty great on radio if you ask me. Pop is the only one holding back, but I have a feeling they'll come around.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Jul 16, 2009 12:40:05 GMT -5
I have read some of the nastiest things I have ever read about anybody in my life on this board in the Mariah threads, so when I read all of these terrible things, I don't even listen to it anymore.
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Post by xmusikk on Jul 16, 2009 12:48:04 GMT -5
I have read some of the nastiest things I have ever read about anybody in my life on this board in the Mariah threads, so when I read all of these terrible things, I don't even listen to it anymore. I know. I'm always in disbelief. They have so much hate towards her, like some sort of anger, they want to see her fail so bad.
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Post by Alex on Jul 16, 2009 12:52:29 GMT -5
I hope in September the song is approaching #1 on ALL formats with Def Jam preparing the release for the 2nd single.
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Post by rellybois on Jul 16, 2009 12:55:06 GMT -5
The Obsessed cover is so frickin frightening... has anyone noticed her HANDS? WTF?? When Photoshop is misused its a scary scary thing... I know sometimes is hard because she covers it constantly with over the top make up, fabrics and objects BUT Have you seen Lady GaGa's face?! WTF?? It is a scary scary thing... I know it may be hard for you lambs to believe, but not all fans despise other artists and take deep offense to any negative comment made about their artist... i.e. I really couldn't care less if you make fun of Gaga. I just like her songs... I'm not her mother for chrissake, which is how you lambs act toward MC.
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Post by jazzyskye10² on Jul 16, 2009 14:14:42 GMT -5
Please stop saying Mariah is flopping. Let's do analysis on radio real quick for you doubters... RHYTHMIC 17 14 MARIAH CAREY Obsessed 2591 2025 566 15.893 Second highest bullet on the format. Will be Top 10 next week. Will be Top 2, if not #1 on the format. Case closed! POP 58 50 MARIAH CAREY Obsessed 475 277 198 2.180 Small but rising Pop bullet. Adds date isn't until 7/28. This is coming off 3 flops on the format, let's give her a break. URBAN Solid bullet, will be Top 10 in 2 weeks. Top 5 on the format is a guarantee. All in all. OBSESSED is doing great and should be at 70+ Million impressions will CD drops. Don't waste your time. No matter how well the song or any song of hers for that matter does, they'll always say she's flopping. I've come to the conclusion that Mariah's own success has become her curse. She's has dominated the charts for so long and so high, that people have so much expectations that if the song doesn't reach #1 and on record time she's consider a flop. I blame her own fans, and the h@ters just feed on that to make it even worse. Every other act releases a song and mostly everyone enjoys the run of that particular song. But when it comes to Mariah people immediately focuses on how big of a hit it will become, or not. Why can we just enjoy the music?^^^ Some of the realest sh*t ever posted. *smdh*
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2009 14:37:28 GMT -5
Please stop saying Mariah is flopping. Let's do analysis on radio real quick for you doubters... RHYTHMIC 17 14 MARIAH CAREY Obsessed 2591 2025 566 15.893 Second highest bullet on the format. Will be Top 10 next week. Will be Top 2, if not #1 on the format. Case closed! POP 58 50 MARIAH CAREY Obsessed 475 277 198 2.180 Small but rising Pop bullet. Adds date isn't until 7/28. This is coming off 3 flops on the format, let's give her a break. URBAN Solid bullet, will be Top 10 in 2 weeks. Top 5 on the format is a guarantee. All in all. OBSESSED is doing great and should be at 70+ Million impressions will CD drops. Don't waste your time. No matter how well the song or any song of hers for that matter does, they'll always say she's flopping. I've come to the conclusion that Mariah's own success has become her curse. She's has dominated the charts for so long and so high, that people have so much expectations that if the song doesn't reach #1 and on record time she's consider a flop. I blame her own fans, and the h@ters just feed on that to make it even worse. Every other act releases a song and mostly everyone enjoys the run of that particular song. But when it comes to Mariah people immediately focuses on how big of a hit it will become, or not. Why can we just enjoy the music? It's all about the caliber of the artist. Mariah has achieved amazing success and has owned the charts, you're right. When there's a shift from that, even though the song performance would be considered a hit to a lesser artist, it's noticeable and relevant to talk about. Shows a shift in her popularity and importance to radio.
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Post by Flashing Lights on Jul 16, 2009 14:40:14 GMT -5
Lock plz.
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Post by xmusikk on Jul 16, 2009 14:44:58 GMT -5
I know sometimes is hard because she covers it constantly with over the top make up, fabrics and objects BUT Have you seen Lady GaGa's face?! WTF?? It is a scary scary thing... I know it may be hard for you lambs to believe, but not all fans despise other artists and take deep offense to any negative comment made about their artist... i.e. I really couldn't care less if you make fun of Gaga. I just like her songs... I'm not her mother for chrissake, which is how you lambs act toward MC. You cared enough to reply to my post. I don't know, that says a lot. And I'm not a lamb for "chrissake"(lol), don't you see I'm talking?
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Post by jink on Jul 16, 2009 14:54:39 GMT -5
I know it may be hard for you lambs to believe, but not all fans despise other artists and take deep offense to any negative comment made about their artist... i.e. I really couldn't care less if you make fun of Gaga. I just like her songs... I'm not her mother for chrissake, which is how you lambs act toward MC. You cared enough to reply to my post. I don't know, that says a lot. And I'm not a lamb for "chrissake"(lol), don't you see I'm talking? Resize your pictures and photos for free at www.shrunkpictures.com
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Post by nandete on Jul 16, 2009 14:55:09 GMT -5
#16 on iTunes ...
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Post by xmusikk on Jul 16, 2009 14:56:21 GMT -5
You cared enough to reply to my post. I don't know, that says a lot. And I'm not a lamb for "chrissake"(lol), don't you see I'm talking? Resize your pictures and photos for free at www.shrunkpictures.comlol
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Post by The Emancipated Unicorn! on Jul 16, 2009 16:33:48 GMT -5
Theres a bunch of h@ters coming out of the woodwork... Go away!!!!!
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Post by yaya on Jul 16, 2009 16:52:53 GMT -5
7/15/2009 28.507 5147 (+ 0.366)
+146 spins
POP: 475 (+21) RHY: 2595 (+58) URB: 1494 (+59) UAC: 177 (+1)
pop: #50 (=) rhythmic: #14 (+1) urban: #19 (+1) UAC: #34 (=)
Audiences
2.180 - Pop (+0.017) 15.903 - Rhythmic (+0.240) 8.966 - Urban (+0.114) 0.721 - Urban AC (-0.018)
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Post by xmusikk on Jul 16, 2009 16:58:02 GMT -5
^Looks good. Thanks!
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Post by yaya on Jul 16, 2009 17:03:26 GMT -5
wrong thread sorry.........
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