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Post by Rurry on Jun 21, 2009 12:33:52 GMT -5
I think it'd be best if they try another uptempo catchy song before they slow it down.. :) I don't agree, AC radio loved Kelly in her Breakaway days, and I think Already Gone will blow up on AC as well as POP. It'll bring in a different audience, and sell more cd's. That's what singles are suppose to do, sell cd's. So good choice. I agree. She needs a ballad because it's the only thing that's going to sell the album at this point it seems. Releasing an uptempo would be a huge mistake.
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Jun 21, 2009 12:53:51 GMT -5
I'm predicted AG as the 3rd single.
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Post by kml567 on Jun 21, 2009 13:30:23 GMT -5
I don't agree, AC radio loved Kelly in her Breakaway days, and I think Already Gone will blow up on AC as well as POP. It'll bring in a different audience, and sell more cd's. That's what singles are suppose to do, sell cd's. So good choice. I agree. She needs a ballad because it's the only thing that's going to sell the album at this point it seems. Releasing an uptempo would be a huge mistake. That's a good point. We've been so obsessed with CHR success that we should not forget about Kelly's popularity with AC radio listeners. I'm convinced now that AG is the best choice as the 3rd single. BTW, "Halo" didn't make top 20 on AC or HotAC, so there won't be any comparisons to Beyonce.
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Post by Modern Myth on Jun 21, 2009 13:55:41 GMT -5
I really do hope this goes at least top 5. How much has this sold digitally so far? I'm finally starting to hear this more than My Life on the radio.
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Post by BrokenArrow on Jun 21, 2009 14:01:23 GMT -5
I agree. She needs a ballad because it's the only thing that's going to sell the album at this point it seems. Releasing an uptempo would be a huge mistake. That's a good point. We've been so obsessed with CHR success that we should not forget about Kelly's popularity with AC radio listeners. I'm convinced now that AG is the best choice as the 3rd single. BTW, "Halo" didn't make top 20 on AC or HotAC, so there won't be any comparisons to Beyonce. These formats are months behind CHR, songs are in the top 10 that left the CHR charts from a year ago.
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Post by addicted06 on Jun 21, 2009 15:17:31 GMT -5
I don't agree, AC radio loved Kelly in her Breakaway days, and I think Already Gone will blow up on AC as well as POP. It'll bring in a different audience, and sell more cd's. That's what singles are suppose to do, sell cd's. So good choice. She hasn't had a big enough hit yet to ensure enough momentum for a slower to get big imo. Unless this turns around real soon and goes top 5 like I hope it will, they should probably go with something a little more radio friendly and upbeat.. =/ DLMSY is probably the song which reminds me most of Breakaway era btw.. lol I wasn't really clear in my post. When I said Breakaway days, in my head I was thinking about the songs Breakaway and Because of you. She spent a lot of weeks on the AC chart with those 2 songs. How can you say MLWSWY wasn't a big hit? No, it didn't sit at the top of the chart forever like gaga's and BEP's, but, imo it was a huge hit, and still is. She has already released 2 upbeat songs, now is the time to slow it down and show the diversity of the cd, and then come back with another upbeat song, one that is different than the first 2 though.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Jun 21, 2009 15:18:07 GMT -5
Next single please.
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Post by Taylor. on Jun 21, 2009 15:19:30 GMT -5
I read they already wrapped the video for "Already Gone" and that Joseph Kahn directed it.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Jun 21, 2009 15:19:57 GMT -5
Yep. I think the small gains will end up hurting her more than helping her unless she can somehow roar to top 3. I would rather this due than hang in limbo and hurt the album/next single.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Jun 21, 2009 15:29:27 GMT -5
Yep. I think the small gains will end up hurting her more than helping her unless she can somehow roar to top 3. I would rather this due than hang in limbo and hurt the album/next single. Yeah, but regardless of whether or not this is able to leap into the top 3 on Pop it is failing to spark digitally and is not holding up the album well at all (two much more important factors to the overall success of All I Ever Wanted Imo). They need to wrap it up and prep Already Gone (which thankfully they already seem to be doing).
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Post by repentyourself on Jun 21, 2009 15:34:22 GMT -5
i really don't want them to send out AG already... just let IDNHU run its course.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Jun 21, 2009 15:35:44 GMT -5
i really don't want them to send out AG already... just let IDNHU run its course. Let's put it this way, the longer this lingers, the more momentum is lost for this era.
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Post by Keelzit on Jun 21, 2009 15:41:25 GMT -5
This is a top 10 hit so I don't get why the momentum is lost. Radio will still play Kelly's next single regardless if IDNHU is selling well digitally or not.
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Post by elessar on Jun 21, 2009 15:41:54 GMT -5
It's "small gains" are getting bigger every day for the last few updates. If it starts going back and forth between positive & negative updates I can understand, but right now the song needs help digitally, so the more it's heard, the better.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Jun 21, 2009 15:45:25 GMT -5
This is a top 10 hit so I don't get why the momentum is lost. Radio will still play Kelly's next single regardless if IDNHU is selling well digitally or not. Where do you see me directly referring to her radio momentum being affected? I said the momentum of the era, which is the entire project, aka the big picture. Radio is just a small part in the equation of a successful album (everyone should surely already know this).
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Post by Keelzit on Jun 21, 2009 15:56:48 GMT -5
This is a top 10 hit so I don't get why the momentum is lost. Radio will still play Kelly's next single regardless if IDNHU is selling well digitally or not. Where do you see me directly referring to her radio momentum being affected? I said the momentum of the era, which is the entire project, aka the big picture. Radio is just a small part in the equation of a successful album (everyone should surely already know this). The entire project, as you say, completely depends on radio imo. Kelly's image is not selling the album so what remains is airplay. I don't see how a new single will save the album while IDNHU is still top 10 and MLWSWY has just gone recurrent. Let it breathe, it has just regained its bullet and remains steady on itunes.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Jun 21, 2009 16:12:00 GMT -5
The entire era does not depend on just radio. It depends on radio finding a song that connects with an audience and, therefore, connects to Kelly and buys her album. IDNHU is not doing that. If the album collapses too far, it will be very, very difficult to revive it even with another top 10 pop hit. But, I know most people disagree and think albums roar back from 150 to top 10 as soon as a hit happens
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Jun 21, 2009 16:12:50 GMT -5
The entire project, as you say, completely depends on radio imo. This era's success depends on a lot more than radio support. It depends on single sales, album sales, touring success, longevity, the list goes on and on. She could have all the radio support in the world and it wouldn't mean a thing if the public weren't biting. Which doesn't seem to be selling the album either, at least not with this single..... Well, it could be a song the public actually seems to be interested in and could regenerate interest for the album and spark sales both digitally and physically for starters. It's suffocating at this point. Since when does dropping 4% last week and 6% this week define "remaining steady"? It's steady alright, steadily declining (which is not something this single needs only 400K in).
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Post by Keelzit on Jun 21, 2009 16:20:10 GMT -5
Well, it could be a song the public actually seems to be interested in and could regenerate interest for the album and spark sales both digitally and physically for starters. Oddly enough, you forgot to quote the main part which was ''with IDNHU still in the top 10 and MLWSWY fresh in recurrency'' Anw, I don't see how IDNHU will prevent people from going to her tour so please explain.
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Post by bigb0882 on Jun 21, 2009 16:25:35 GMT -5
Well the single has gone from #42 to #36 in about the last 24 hours so let's see if this trend can continue. I would be happy with her getting back into the top 30 and hopefully airplay plus that will help her hold steady on the Hot 100.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Jun 21, 2009 16:26:19 GMT -5
Anw, I don't see how IDNHU will prevent people from going to her tour so please explain. Is it not obvious? Do we not remember how Kelly had to cancel her My December tour after sluggish ticket sales due to poor album/single performance? How about the cancellation of Mariah's E=MC2 tour after a few underperforming singles? Anyone? I would think it would be pretty self explanatory. Simply put, poor single/album performance can affect touring.
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Post by Keelzit on Jun 21, 2009 16:36:18 GMT -5
I agree, but it's not like IDNHU has bombed or anything. Plus, MLWSWY alone can bring in many attenders. I can understand how the My December mess affected her tour but that was when the highest charting airplay single peaked at like #38ish. That's not the case with this album.
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Post by Illusions on Jun 21, 2009 16:45:10 GMT -5
This back and forth is getting old. You both have your opinons. Agree to disagree please!
Nice updates lately! IMO Already Gone is a great single choice. Someone posted on here that after AG there are no more radio hits!?!?! DLMSY, LS, Cry, and TDWFA(if they want to use a bonus track). That is a lot of radio friendly hits there!
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Jun 21, 2009 16:50:49 GMT -5
but it's not like IDNHU has bombed or anything. Sadly, everywhere outside of radio. My Life Would Suck Without You alone won't be enough to tour off of ( maybe if she had started the tour closer to the album's release). My whole point is that the longer an underperforming second single lingers, the harder it's going to be for an era to regain that lost momentum. There are plenty of previous situations that show this (Give It To Me, Bye Bye, Low just to name a few).
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Post by kmbgs on Jun 21, 2009 16:58:56 GMT -5
Anw, I don't see how IDNHU will prevent people from going to her tour so please explain. Is it not obvious? Do we not remember how Kelly had to cancel her My December tour after sluggish ticket sales due to poor album/single performance? How about the cancellation of Mariah's E=MC2 tour after a few underperforming singles? Anyone? I would think it would be pretty self explanatory. Simply put, poor single/album performance can affect touring. I get your point, however the original MD tour was scrapped because the venues were too big for Kelly to begin with, the bad buzz/underperforming singles only put the nail in the tour's coffin. However, it was rescheduled, and judging by the shows that I went to, generally sold very well. I don't think Kelly would have any problems selling out Hammerstein Ballrom, for exmaple, although Nassau Coliseum, I do think would be a tad difficult for our little girl to fill up ;)
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Post by kmbgs on Jun 21, 2009 17:00:11 GMT -5
Furhtermore, poor album performance had absolutely nothing to do with the cancellation of the original MD tour because the tour was cancelled before the album was ever even released.
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Post by Myth X on Jun 21, 2009 17:04:49 GMT -5
I agree that it's time to send "Already Gone" to the radio. "I Do Not Hook Up" is killing the "All I Ever Wanted" era. The same thing happend with "If U Seek Amy" and now Circus (the album) is already out of the top 100 because the 4th single should have sent to radio the same moment that If U Seek Amy peaked.
In the other side, you have Beyoncé and her multiples singles which keep connected the public with the album. That's why her album keeps selling. She didn't wait until Halo has a -1000 bullet to sent "Sweet Dreams" to pop radio.
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Post by Illusions on Jun 21, 2009 17:07:26 GMT -5
I think they should wait until atleast August to send AG to radio or maybe even Sept. if IDNHU picks up more steam.
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Post by Rurry on Jun 21, 2009 20:36:31 GMT -5
This back and forth is getting old. You both have your opinons. Agree to disagree please! Nice updates lately! IMO Already Gone is a great single choice. Someone posted on here that after AG there are no more radio hits!?!?! DLMSY, LS, Cry, and TDWFA(if they want to use a bonus track). That is a lot of radio friendly hits there! If you're referring to me, I didn't say that....I just said AG is more radio-friendly than anything else left on the album. After AG, I could see Cry and DLMSY doing well/decently. However, I wouldn't pick them over AG.
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