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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2009 17:30:12 GMT -5
Already Gone (if released) and future singles will help sell the album. I HOPE HOPE that gets released, its so beautiful, radio NEEDS it! :)
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on Jun 22, 2009 17:37:01 GMT -5
Honestly, they should kill this if it still isn't selling itself or the album. It's already a solid pop radio hit, a few positions isn't going to make much of a different there....but obviously, it's not selling well. The whole point of airplay is to get sales for both the single itself and the album and this is doing neither. I completely agree . the whole point is to sell an album, and this obviously isn't doing that . they should at least just announce an adds date so the next single can start getting some airplay . It's definitely a good time to get the ball rolling. It can float about the Top 10 as much as it wants, it's not doing its job as a single and there's proof of that. Radio might not be 100% ready to move on, but everybody else clearly is.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Jun 22, 2009 17:40:11 GMT -5
Why are you fighting for a damn song people? I'm sure you have better things to do than arguing what a label should or shouldn't do. What a silly comment. I'm sure we all have better things to do than post on Pulse in general. It doesn't stop us from doing it now does it?
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Post by Keelzit on Jun 22, 2009 17:42:03 GMT -5
At least I'm not fighting for a few lines and verses. I just read news for my favorite songs or artists.
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Post by Rumors on Jun 22, 2009 17:46:58 GMT -5
I know this is going to hurt but the way I'm seeing this era is that Kelly has just become kind of predictable and boring. She is a great, great singer. I don't think any one will deny that. She had her "big moment" with the Breakaway era. That album was a huge album around the world and as many of us have stated she is fortunate she got that one really, really big album. Many terrific artists do not. To me it really doesn't matter what AG does. It's a nice song and I expect it to do well at radio and help album sales for a time. I have no idea how her tour will sell at this point. A lot could ride on who she takes on tour with her. I think she does need an artist that will help with ticket sales.
But I'm just sensing a little less hype and excitement around Kelly from the pop crowd (in general). I think after this era Kelly should take some time for herself and really figure out where she is going as an artist. I don't think Kelly is a terrific writer (let my re-phase that...her lyrics don't appeal to me) but after drawing my own conclusion about this album I think she needs to find more of a middle ground between this album and MD. This album swung TOO MUCH away from where she was going with MD. It doesn't have a lot of heart to me even though Kelly sings the crap out of the songs. I think we are seeing that many people agree with me. They are hearing the songs due to massive airplay for two songs to date but they just aren't connecting to them. Something just a little off.
Kelly will probably be 29-30 when her next album comes out. I just don't see her as a Fergie or Gwen being in her 30s singing the type of cutesy disposable songs that they do (and I really enjoy some of the stuff from both ladies). That just not where "I" see Kelly going.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Jun 22, 2009 17:48:42 GMT -5
At least I'm not fighting for a few lines and verses. I just read news for my favorite songs or artists. It's all trivial.
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Post by ontheroadwith on Jun 22, 2009 21:47:43 GMT -5
She really needs to do a big tour to support this record...I think that is the only way to get the album sales boosted at this point.
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Post by rfucom on Jun 22, 2009 21:52:03 GMT -5
I know this is going to hurt but the way I'm seeing this era is that Kelly has just become kind of predictable and boring. She is a great, great singer. I don't think any one will deny that. She had her "big moment" with the Breakaway era. That album was a huge album around the world and as many of us have stated she is fortunate she got that one really, really big album. Many terrific artists do not. To me it really doesn't matter what AG does. It's a nice song and I expect it to do well at radio and help album sales for a time. I have no idea how her tour will sell at this point. A lot could ride on who she takes on tour with her. I think she does need an artist that will help with ticket sales. But I'm just sensing a little less hype and excitement around Kelly from the pop crowd (in general). I think after this era Kelly should take some time for herself and really figure out where she is going as an artist. I don't think Kelly is a terrific writer (let my re-phase that...her lyrics don't appeal to me) but after drawing my own conclusion about this album I think she needs to find more of a middle ground between this album and MD. This album swung TOO MUCH away from where she was going with MD. It doesn't have a lot of heart to me even though Kelly sings the crap out of the songs. I think we are seeing that many people agree with me. They are hearing the songs due to massive airplay for two songs to date but they just aren't connecting to them. Something just a little off. Kelly will probably be 29-30 when her next album comes out. I just don't see her as a Fergie or Gwen being in her 30s singing the type of cutesy disposable songs that they do (and I really enjoy some of the stuff from both ladies). That just not where "I" see Kelly going. im sleepy with your story
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Post by Diablo Cody™ on Jun 22, 2009 22:19:40 GMT -5
HUGE FLOP!
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Post by bigb0882 on Jun 22, 2009 22:27:32 GMT -5
Yes, according to your other posts we all know you like HUGE things that FLOP.
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Post by Modern Myth on Jun 22, 2009 22:40:07 GMT -5
I have a feeling after this era ends, we're going to get a different side to Kelly if this album doesn't sell. I predict her writing a lot more on the next album, which I'd be mighty happy for seeing that most of my favorite songs from her she had a part in writing, and I'd love to see what else she can produce,
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Post by dbhmr on Jun 22, 2009 23:03:05 GMT -5
I know this is going to hurt but the way I'm seeing this era is that Kelly has just become kind of predictable and boring. She is a great, great singer. I don't think any one will deny that. She had her "big moment" with the Breakaway era. That album was a huge album around the world and as many of us have stated she is fortunate she got that one really, really big album. Many terrific artists do not. To me it really doesn't matter what AG does. It's a nice song and I expect it to do well at radio and help album sales for a time. I have no idea how her tour will sell at this point. A lot could ride on who she takes on tour with her. I think she does need an artist that will help with ticket sales. But I'm just sensing a little less hype and excitement around Kelly from the pop crowd (in general). I think after this era Kelly should take some time for herself and really figure out where she is going as an artist. I don't think Kelly is a terrific writer (let my re-phase that...her lyrics don't appeal to me) but after drawing my own conclusion about this album I think she needs to find more of a middle ground between this album and MD. This album swung TOO MUCH away from where she was going with MD. It doesn't have a lot of heart to me even though Kelly sings the crap out of the songs. I think we are seeing that many people agree with me. They are hearing the songs due to massive airplay for two songs to date but they just aren't connecting to them. Something just a little off. Kelly will probably be 29-30 when her next album comes out. I just don't see her as a Fergie or Gwen being in her 30s singing the type of cutesy disposable songs that they do (and I really enjoy some of the stuff from both ladies). That just not where "I" see Kelly going. I think there's a lot of merit to this, even though I don't inherently agree with it all. But I respect the points you made and don't think they can be thrown away--clearly something isn't connecting people as much as it did with Breakaway. But I'm not going to pretend to have any idea why. LWS obviously hit the right chords, but one single isn't usually enough to massively sell an album anymore with the ease of iTunes. I really predicted IDNHU to be bigger, but maybe it's just not the "hip" message right now. Who knows, but I really don't think the problem lies in the production, melody, or vocal performance, so I'm not sure what else it could be. Already Gone will be a good test to see if it was just the single or if people are really feeling more of what you described in your post. That being said, I can't muster up a whole lot of worry about it all. While I'm definitely disappointed in album sales and the song's digital performance, I am confident that Kelly Clarkson will stick around as long as she wants to. I posted something similar in the Kelly thread, but--for me--as long as she's recording music she likes, and I get to hear it, then I'm a happy fan.
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Post by sunpeach on Jun 23, 2009 1:49:39 GMT -5
I'm agreeing with others- who cares if this goes higher on radio, it's NOT SELLING the ALBUM and that is what is crucial right now, it's time to get this other single rolling no matter where this song is or if it is going higher or not. I personally love the song but I'm willing to sacrifice it for album sales at this point.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Jun 23, 2009 2:10:12 GMT -5
I have a feeling after this era ends, we're going to get a different side to Kelly if this album doesn't sell. I predict her writing a lot more on the next album, which I'd be mighty happy for seeing that most of my favorite songs from her she had a part in writing, and I'd love to see what else she can produce, Yep, I think the next era is going to be VERY interesting-I really cannot even guess what type of era/vision will come together for it. Maybe her and Ben Moody can do an entire cd together! **fantasy**
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Post by sunpeach on Jun 23, 2009 2:10:34 GMT -5
But I'm just sensing a little less hype and excitement around Kelly from the pop crowd (in general). I think after this era Kelly should take some time for herself and really figure out where she is going as an artist. I don't think Kelly is a terrific writer (let my re-phase that...her lyrics don't appeal to me) but after drawing my own conclusion about this album I think she needs to find more of a middle ground between this album and MD. This album swung TOO MUCH away from where she was going with MD. It doesn't have a lot of heart to me even though Kelly sings the crap out of the songs. I think we are seeing that many people agree with me. They are hearing the songs due to massive airplay for two songs to date but they just aren't connecting to them. Something just a little off. I disagree- there was huge excitement for her- MLWSWY would not have shot to #1 the way it did if there wasn't- but then her appearance just scuttled everything- that's what people have been talking about ever since she started back, whether she was pregnant, the dresses she was wearing that was making her butt look so big, then the jeans that made her thighs look so huge. There have been no attempts at iconic images or performances. the music is there, the youth is there, the image is a mess.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Jun 23, 2009 2:21:45 GMT -5
I think a song truly connecting will overcome image issues or any other issues with the cd. I am hoping Already Gone will do it. Or, hell, if Hook Up does go up a lot and the cd starts moving up. I also hope she gives a kick ass VMA performance. If she performs. Like, bring the roof down everyone downloading it after type performance.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 23, 2009 6:46:04 GMT -5
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Post by ƒreakshow on Jun 23, 2009 7:35:35 GMT -5
I have a feeling after this era ends, we're going to get a different side to Kelly if this album doesn't sell. I predict her writing a lot more on the next album, which I'd be mighty happy for seeing that most of my favorite songs from her she had a part in writing, and I'd love to see what else she can produce, Yep, I think the next era is going to be VERY interesting-I really cannot even guess what type of era/vision will come together for it. Maybe her and Ben Moody can do an entire cd together! **fantasy** OMG, I would love for them to work together again.
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Post by Felicia on Jun 23, 2009 7:41:29 GMT -5
A huge reason why this isn't connecting to the pop crowd - people want to and are hooking up. Avril's 'Don't Tell Me' had a similar message too and it peaked around the same position.
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Post by bigb0882 on Jun 23, 2009 7:59:04 GMT -5
Disappointing audience loss today :(
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2009 8:00:52 GMT -5
It's all about image, people. They got the album and timing right, but someone forgot to tell Kelly she's a pop star. A lot of the fault lies with Kelly,IMO
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Jun 23, 2009 8:52:26 GMT -5
Two things.
#1: Kelly fans should be grateful she's had two big hits already. That's two more big hits she had compared to last era. #2: I'm not surprised the album isn't selling. IMO, it's not great at all and is probably my least enjoyable Kelly album. It doesn't compare to her last three.
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Post by Au$tin on Jun 23, 2009 8:55:20 GMT -5
Two things. #1: Kelly fans should be grateful she's had two big hits already. That's two more big hits she had compared to last era. #2: I'm not surprised the album isn't selling. IMO, it's not great at all and is probably my least enjoyable Kelly album. It doesn't compare to her last three. #3: Unless you have massive teenage and tween appeal, you aren't going to sell much to begin with.
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Post by Jack on Jun 23, 2009 8:59:35 GMT -5
#3: Unless you have massive teenage and tween appeal, you aren't going to sell much to begin with. That's not it at all. Teens and tweens don't buy albums. Adults and country fans do.
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Post by Illusions on Jun 23, 2009 9:09:33 GMT -5
Ok people IDNHU is selling the album! Last I checked it sold 9,000+ last week! So it is helping sell the album, but it isn't helping it sell a lot.
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Post by kylecburke on Jun 23, 2009 9:15:00 GMT -5
Ok people IDNHU is selling the album! Last I checked it sold 9,000+ last week! So it is helping sell the album, but it isn't helping it sell a lot. i dont think thats right...at this time..MD was selling 8000 and there was no real song selling that album
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Post by Illusions on Jun 23, 2009 9:20:04 GMT -5
Well you can't say that it isn't right either! IMO IDNHU is helping sell the album!
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Jun 23, 2009 11:04:07 GMT -5
Well you can't say that it isn't right either! IMO IDNHU is helping sell the album! No it is not. You have to look at the cd run versus the song runs. Kelly's cd has experienced a massive sales cut pretty much every week since IDNHU was released-even when it entered the top 10. It needed to see gains or at least stay steady for anyone to say the song is selling the album. For example, Katy Perry's single is a good example otherwise-it has posted gains and climbed back up the charts OR at least stayed steady as WUIV reached and entered top 10. Not that it has to gain-I would be happy with staying steady, but it hasn't at all. I am hoping some promo and the combined effect of the first two singles and eventually the third will lead to a stabilization and, eventually, small gains. I don't really understand the we should be grateful comment. Like, grateful to whom? Just seems like a bizarre sentiment that fans should be grateful if an artist they like happens to get top 5 in airplay or something.
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Post by Au$tin on Jun 23, 2009 11:34:13 GMT -5
#3: Unless you have massive teenage and tween appeal, you aren't going to sell much to begin with. That's not it at all. Teens and tweens don't buy albums. Adults and country fans do. Adults and country fans buy Hannah Montana, Miley Cyrus, Jonas Brothers albums? Even country artists are beginning to lose album sales. But, I will still say country is the top selling album genre at the moment. Even without Ms. Swift.
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Post by rellybois on Jun 23, 2009 11:37:53 GMT -5
^ Yes, adults DO buy the majority of Jonas Brothers and Miley Cyrus albums and concert tickets -- for their children. The family purse strings are controlled by the parents, not the 11 year old children.
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