Mega248
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Post by Mega248 on Jun 27, 2009 12:05:09 GMT -5
Playlists may return to normal over the next couple days, but keep in mind that the MJ spins will be in the 7-day totals for another week. Which means most songs will have lower gains than they should for a week, followed by a week of higher gains.
And for everyone complaining that 3OH!3 is going to be shut out of #1 because of this, I don't think it's at all set in stone that Lady Gaga will get #1 next week. In fact, my guess is she won't.
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Post by iMustConfess on Jun 27, 2009 12:14:53 GMT -5
Yep, it pissed me off that this had to happen this week. It hurt The Veronicas on iTunes on their moment to shine and it's stopped 3OH!3 from hitting #1 on this chart. Unless this gains enough and The Black Eye Peas drop enough tomorrow. If they don't get it this week, they will never. Lady GaGa and Pitbull are less than 1,000 spins away now, and they'll definitely surpass 3OH!3 next week unless something happens. Definitely it's affecting a lot of songs. I mean, Thursday afternoon after his confirmed death at 2:30 PM, "Thriller" received 212 spins on pop. I haven't even looked at today yet, but I'm sure it's huge. I know he was The King of Pop and everything, and his death was tragic, but I'm so sick and tired of hearing about his death now! I just can't take it much longer. Leave the dead to rest in piece! DISGUSTING. This man of more than "The King of Pop". Who the hell are The Veronicas and 3OH!3 to him??? NOTHING. Veronicas were flopping before his death anyways so I don't see the issue. Sick and tired of hearing about it? Well, he's sorry he was such an influence on 98% of the artists in the industry and that he's a huge figure. Anyways, don't know how long this will last but I put maybe 2-3 weeks. Especially as they get news on the autopsy and cause, etc. The news will pour in for over a month at least.
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Post by Au$tin on Jun 27, 2009 12:21:53 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but the death of a music icon is a little more important than your favorite song "smashing on iTunes & rocking that big bullet!!!!". I think we can all deal with the charts being screwy for a few days, it's really not that big of a deal. One of the greatest and most influential artists of our time deserves some respect and if it comes at the cost of some spins, oh well. Screwing up songs for a week is one thing. I don't care about that. I care about it screwing up songs from doing what they should have done. I don't care if it screws up "Obsessed," or "Radar," or "LoveGame," etc. because they are going to continue through this like nothing ever happened. They're just going to have one week that looks weird. However, if it's affecting songs from getting to #1 or screwing up a song's chances at hitting their peak, then that's when I get mad. Look, I know he was the biggest thing in music since Elvis Presley, but seriously, I think if he's dead, let him rest in peace. One day of coverage is enough. This is worse than Travolta's kid and Anna Nicole Smith. In fact, when asked about Travolta's kid, Robin Williams bluntly said if he was going to say anything, it would be to the family, not over the media. It's bad enough on a family that a loved one dies, but to constantly hear it on the media over and over and over and over and over and over, I'd be pissed. I don't mind him being remembered, or even if he has the top spot on iTunes, but there's a limit when there's just too much. I think we've passed that.
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Post by OH SNAP! on Jun 27, 2009 12:25:31 GMT -5
Biggest bullshit I ever heard.
Michael Jackson music FTW!
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Post by vandj4ever on Jun 27, 2009 12:59:23 GMT -5
Anyways, don't know how long this will last but I put maybe 2-3 weeks. Especially as they get news on the autopsy and cause, etc. The news will pour in for over a month at least. His death will be a topic for months. After this weekend the airplay will start shifting back to normal. Maybe a week with sales at this height and then most will start dropping. At least online. Those retailers receiving physical shipments will probably have another large spike in sales for another week or so. Yeah, a lot of songs or albums are being affected. Some will recover easily, some may struggle, some may not recover at all and others may miss sime peaks they would have reached otherwise. I can certainly feel for all of them. Same time MJ's contribution to music was enormous and I'm sorry to those disappointed, but even though it's affecting my favorites as well, I'm not going to deny he deserves this tribute. A lot of these same artists owe him for their success now and most of them seem to understand this. He is one of the very few that deserves to have the music industry come to a halt and honor him.
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Post by Minor Scratch on Jun 27, 2009 13:01:00 GMT -5
Straight up ignorance. MJ's songs are better than half the BS on the radio right now anyway. Its like the industry has been grounded with his death.
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Post by uion1715 on Jun 27, 2009 13:04:26 GMT -5
Wow... Seriously, Michael Jackson deserve this, for heaven sake! It's probably the one last time we'll hear MJ on CHR again... And you'll hear Veronica plenty more times... Beside, who the hell actually cares (beside Pulse member) about 3OH3 or Veronica's peak on the chart anyway?
Beside, it's refreshing to hear something other than BBP 100 times a week
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Post by Battle601 on Jun 27, 2009 14:35:57 GMT -5
Yeah, a lot of songs or albums are being affected. Some will recover easily, some may struggle, some may not recover at all and others may miss sime peaks they would have reached otherwise. I can certainly feel for all of them. Same time MJ's contribution to music was enormous and I'm sorry to those disappointed, but even though it's affecting my favorites as well, I'm not going to deny he deserves this tribute. A lot of these same artists owe him for their success now and most of them seem to understand this. He is one of the very few that deserves to have the music industry come to a halt and honor him. Very well said. That's pretty much how I felt when news of his death came on Thursday. We all knew that the charts would come to a halt with current songs dropping in spins and so forth, but at this point, the least we can do is take it as it is. There's nothing much more I can add to what's already been posted on this board. Regardless, to each their own, but the radio stations are doing their part, and very well rightfully so. However one feels, it's at their own discretion.
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Post by Libra on Jun 27, 2009 15:11:15 GMT -5
Half the people in this thread need to either take chill pills or otherwise not get themselves so bent out of shape over the chart effect. Sheesh...
And in any case, if tomorrow's update is anything like today's, then "Don't Trust Me" will be #1 tomorrow.
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Post by nncountrykid on Jun 27, 2009 15:39:55 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but the death of a music icon is a little more important than your favorite song "smashing on iTunes & rocking that big bullet!!!!". I think we can all deal with the charts being screwy for a few days, it's really not that big of a deal. One of the greatest and most influential artists of our time deserves some respect and if it comes at the cost of some spins, oh well. Maybe, but celebrating the death of a pedophile is a little disgusting.
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Post by Rurry on Jun 27, 2009 15:46:55 GMT -5
^I really have nothing to say to that.
It's just a shame some people who post at a board about music/the music industry don't even understand the importance of freaking Michael Jackson.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Jun 27, 2009 16:09:27 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but the death of a music icon is a little more important than your favorite song "smashing on iTunes & rocking that big bullet!!!!". I think we can all deal with the charts being screwy for a few days, it's really not that big of a deal. One of the greatest and most influential artists of our time deserves some respect and if it comes at the cost of some spins, oh well. Maybe, but celebrating the death of a pedophile is a little disgusting. STFU! Until you can prove the claim you make about Michael Jackson I suggest we move on from this line of conversation. LAPD with thousands of police officers and a DA hell bent on sending the man to jail for something he didn't do couldn't prove anything and I HIGHLY doubt you can either. That's the way it works when you are innocent of the crime that you are accused of. MOVE ON! >:( The man was a musical genius and Michael deserves every bit of acclaim he is getting if not more.
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on Jun 27, 2009 17:28:26 GMT -5
Over myself a bit. Had the radio on pretty much all day at work and actually really enjoyed an MJ song every now and then.
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Post by Myth X on Jun 27, 2009 19:50:37 GMT -5
Some posts in this thread are just too much... Seriously who the hell cares if that horrible song of 3OH!3 don't go to #1. We are talking about the music and legacy of the KING OF POP. The whole music industry cares more about his music being played at this moment than if that flop of the veronicas can reach top 40 or 3OH!3 can go #1.
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Post by Battle601 on Jun 28, 2009 0:21:17 GMT -5
If you really think about it, I'm pretty damn sure that even the acts on this week's Top 40 chart would fully understand and would not question for a second having their songs put aside in favor of timeless classics from an artist who inspired them to become part of the music industry. And even if these acts don't reach #1 this time around with their current songs, I don't think they would be heartless to blame such failed attempts on a legend whose musical legacy shows far more accomplishments than what these current acts will ever attain in our lifetime. I'm sure there are acts who would rather look at this as an honor and use this time to explore the music that he made over the years and learn about whatver it was he did to get to the top - now that's motivation.
If I was a music artist, and I'm looking at the charts, and I see that my song was in good position to reach #1 only to peak at #2 because Michael Jackson reclaimed the top spot, sure I can say it's somewhat disappointing, as would many other artists. But if we're all working together in the music industry, we would come to understand why he's there and there are so many reasons for that. If there's anybody on the charts I would have at #1 instead of myself, no question Michael Jackson would be on that list.
During an interview, a recent up and coming artist said the following: "There should be a dictionary with the name MICHAEL JACKSON and his definition would be POP MUSIC." Another artist suggested that something is wrong with anyone who is not able to put together both the music business and Michael Jackson in the same field. And that is just a fraction of the feedback coming from artists currently on the charts.
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Post by Taste It On My Tongue on Jun 28, 2009 4:17:23 GMT -5
I completely agree, no one should be complaining if Michael is clogging up some airplay. He deserves this. This is the curtain call, we need to enjoy it for one last time because there will never be anything like it again.
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Post by Battle601 on Jun 28, 2009 6:46:22 GMT -5
Since this was such a pressing issue on this thread, hopefully this will be enough to stop all the complaining.
3OH!3 is new at #1. And The Veronicas are in position to enter the Top 40 later on today, as long as they can maintain their lead above Seether - this is thanks to four songs that will be going recurrent.
So if we can finally turn the page...
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Post by LoveKiller on Jun 28, 2009 12:33:56 GMT -5
wow people need to CHILL OUT. lmao!!! each person is entitled to their opinion, no one needs to be defensive and start attacking others. i personally don't see the huge deal with MJ's death, only because he has been inactive for years and the whole strangeness of him and the things he's done. there is no doubt he has shaped the industry, and he does deserve recognition, but not to the extent of weeks of heavy airplay to the point where it robs other artists. just my opinion.
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Post by jink on Jun 28, 2009 12:53:43 GMT -5
It's been two days. Hardly weeks.
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Post by Rurry on Jun 28, 2009 13:05:05 GMT -5
wow people need to CHILL OUT. lmao!!! each person is entitled to their opinion, no one needs to be defensive and start attacking others. i personally don't see the huge deal with MJ's death, only because he has been inactive for years and the whole strangeness of him and the things he's done. there is no doubt he has shaped the industry, and he does deserve recognition, but not to the extent of weeks of heavy airplay to the point where it robs other artists. just my opinion. It will most likely be less than a week of scattered MJ songs on radio that won't ~rob artists of airplay~ but lower their spin counts a bit. Overreaction much?
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Post by Battle601 on Jun 28, 2009 13:10:38 GMT -5
Indeed, to each their own.
I don't see playlists continuing with Michael Jackson songs in power rotation for a long period. It may only seem that way over several more days based on the seven-day total updates, as many current songs will have lower spin counts - at most that's the worst that can happen.
As the weeks pass, playlists will return to normal, sooner or later. In the meantime, radio stations all around will continue to pay their respects to MJ in their own right however they choose, and at the same time make sure that current songs are getting a reasonable amount of airplay. Each station is handling the situation accordingly given the circumstances.
However, I think that more Top 40 stations will be more open to retaining MJ's music in blocks that would normally belong to the oldest songs on their playlist (whether from the late 1990s or sometime in the middle of this decade), if they are not already playing them on a regular or occasional basis.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2009 13:18:26 GMT -5
Everything else is sort of running into problems because Michael Jackson's entire back catalog is clogging up positions. iTunes is looking absolutely ridiculous. It's amazing right? I love how The King of Pop who shaped the entire industry and paved the way for pretty much every major pop and R&B artists today and he is still WHIPPING all these youngins up and down the charts and showing them how it's done. All your favorites should be honored to be knocked down from their spots.
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Post by colton on Jun 29, 2009 6:03:11 GMT -5
Has anyone thought about the possibility of MJ's label releasing "unreleased tracks" from the old albums? The thought seems fascinating...
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