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Post by chebingeo on Nov 22, 2004 23:48:38 GMT -5
I know Usher has said in interviews he wants to work with her. C'mon! It's time!!!
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Post by someguy on Nov 24, 2004 22:13:45 GMT -5
Yuck. I just heard this for the first time today. I want to like the stuff Celine puts out, because she does have a lot of talent, but this is horrendous.
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Post by reception on Nov 24, 2004 22:27:06 GMT -5
It is bad. This is way out of her league. This would have been better off as an album track.
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Post by Mega248 on Nov 25, 2004 0:19:36 GMT -5
Yeah, this sucks. Since when the hell does Celine do caribbean music?
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Post by Libra on Nov 27, 2004 11:28:09 GMT -5
Yeah, this sucks. Since when the hell does Celine do caribbean music? Well, there was the reggae-influenced "Treat Her Like a Lady". ;)
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Post by velcro on Nov 28, 2004 12:09:42 GMT -5
But pop isn't going to play her anyway.? Her great ballads are Top 5 locks at AC. Exactly... pop is over for Celine.. and if she keeps releasing junk like this she could lose this market as well... and she could easily be a staple at AC for years to come, but not with this.
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Post by bat1990 on Jan 8, 2005 15:18:57 GMT -5
This has reached it's hightest position ever #19 @ Mediabase & #18 @ Billboard!!! There's a tiny bit of hope
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Post by JCMF3 on Jan 8, 2005 16:52:06 GMT -5
Exactly... pop is over for Celine.. and if she keeps releasing junk like this she could lose this market as well... and she could easily be a staple at AC for years to come, but not with this. Pop doesn't have to over for Celine. If pop radio PDs were just open more to power ballads, then Celine could have had a hit in 2003 with Have You Ever Been In Love? I wish pop radio would be more open to these types of songs again. And I have yet to hear this Celine song...
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Post by Arson on Jan 8, 2005 19:59:08 GMT -5
Pop doesn't have to over for Celine. If pop radio PDs were just open more to power ballads, then Celine could have had a hit in 2003 with Have You Ever Been In Love? I wish pop radio would be more open to these types of songs again. I totally agree with you. It was neat in the late 90s to have artists like Celine Dion, and even Rod Stewart and Elton John on the pop chart. "You & I" could have made a small dent on the pop chart... it's catchy and not any worse than "So Yesterday", "Rumors" or "Welcome to My Life". With that said, her rendition of "Beautiful Boy" doesn't sound too great. Celine Dion's selection of songs has been questionable since after "A New Day Has Come". There have been a few good songs here and there, but for the most part, the singles released have been disappointing.
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Post by jmason on Jan 10, 2005 19:06:35 GMT -5
I agree!
Off of a NDHC
I think "When The Wrong One Loves You Right" should have been put out to POP, while A NDHC should have been put out to AC.
ANDHC out lived "I'm Alive" and almost, by one week, "At Last"
If "I'm Alive" would have never been released so early ANDHC may have been the reason the 50/5 rule was put in place.
Then after releaseing 3 more sinlges to AC, wait 9 months until putting out another CD, almost ever one of her singles since MHWGO has been killed by the one released after it.
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Post by johnm1120 on Jan 11, 2005 8:36:48 GMT -5
If I Surrender had been released off AND, it would be an AC staple, and would've been a pop hit too. I dunno why Sony thinks the way they do, but maybe they don't think...
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Post by velcro on Jan 17, 2005 21:49:37 GMT -5
I also wish that Pop would spin more power ballads like they did in '90s... but I don't see that making a comeback.
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Post by WhySoSerious? on Jan 17, 2005 21:50:56 GMT -5
If I Surrender had been released off AND, it would be an AC staple, and would've been a pop hit too. I dunno why Sony thinks the way they do, but maybe they don't think... Pop was never going to play "I Surrender." Power ballads don't work anymore.
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Post by allow that on Jan 17, 2005 21:53:41 GMT -5
Pop was never going to play "I Surrender."
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Post by johnm1120 on Jan 17, 2005 22:52:25 GMT -5
Pop was never going to play "I Surrender." Power ballads don't work anymore. Pop radio has a token ballad in between the oral sex songs. Currently it's Over and Over.
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Post by allow that on Jan 17, 2005 23:17:55 GMT -5
Pop radio has a token ballad in between the oral sex songs. Currently it's Over and Over. Yeah, I can see the similarities. Seriously, Pop radio is all about image these days. Celine is the farthest thing from what Pop would play.
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Post by jmason on Jan 18, 2005 13:37:22 GMT -5
Right now POP is dominated by HIP HOP, and and it's starting to run off on HOT AC, and then AC is starting to play HOT AC songs, so hopefully in a few years POP will get over HIP HOP and go to something different, hopefully like it was in the 90s, if only Celine stays around to see POP change.
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Post by reception on Jan 23, 2005 13:09:13 GMT -5
It debuted this week at #20 on the US Music Survey.
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Post by jmason on Jan 24, 2005 13:13:14 GMT -5
One promblem is Sony has always promoted Celine as a ballad artist. Unlike Mariah and Madonna. Sony always picks ballads to be Celine's first single.
It seems that's all they have picked since Falling Into You. And now they've started to pick tracks that are a bit faster like IDAN and YAI, but by now POP thinks Celine is nothing but a ballad singer. If Celine could get some new faster songs and have a good video to go with it she may get a hit again, but Sony isn't going to let that happen any time soon.
And releashing album after album on AC isn't helping, her. She need to release a song to POP this year, but not AC. Look how well ANDHC did. She needs a top 10 hit and it doesn't look like BB is going to do it, so she'll have to release another song to AC. That is if she wants to have a song on the AC chart every year.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2005 14:44:06 GMT -5
One promblem is Sony has always promoted Celine as a ballad artist. Unlike Mariah and Madonna. Sony always picks ballads to be Celine's first single. I like Celine, but I honestly don't think Celine would be better off releasing upbeat songs and I don't think it's a good comparison to compare her upbeat songs to Madonna's and Mariah's whose upbeat songs had far more crossover appeal. If you look at Celine's career at her height, where were songs like "If There Was Any Other Way," "Love Can Move Mountains," and "Misled" peaking on the charts? Way lower than the ballads. There's a level of cheesiness that is especially present in Celine's upbeat songs. I honestly don't think she would have been better off releasing "Treat Her Like A Lady" as the lead single from Let's Talk About Love or "When The Wrong One Loves You Right" from A New Day Has Come. "I Drove All Night" only worked at CHR/Pop because of the Hex Hector remix, and even then it wasn't much to celebrate. Meanwhile, it became one of her lesser successful songs over at AC while her ballads around the same time were peaking at #1 and #2.
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Post by allow that on Jan 24, 2005 15:08:00 GMT -5
I agree completely with Rebirth's preceeding post.
I will say that Celine might have been in a slightly better place if she made better single choices "post retirement" lol.
"ADHC" actually shocked me by peaking Top 30 at Pop... because ballads were out and this particular ballad was sooo sappy that I don't even think it would have done *as* well as her other songs even if it was released at her peak. "I'm Alive" would have been a better lead single, though I'm not at all saying it would have seen her return to her old success. "Right In Front Of You" should have followed that up as the next single.
Then, why would they release "Stand By Your Side" as a single? That stumped me. It sounds like an album track, not a radio track. "Faith" on the other hand sounded like it was made for AC radio, and it never saw the light of day in this country.
Then Celine went on to make like how many new novelty albums with repeated songs on them? That's when radio truly lost interest. Pop is out of the question at this point, but she could still be more successful at AC if they deleloped more business savvy and a better sense of judgement.
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Post by jmason on Jan 28, 2005 13:34:40 GMT -5
And all of those singles were secong singles.
Both Mislead and LCMM peaked in the top 15. Even though they were the 3rd and 4th release from a album.
LCMM peaking at #14 shocked me after IYAKMT peaked at #2 and NBBMH peaked at #7.
Who picks what songs go on Celine's CDs? Instead of just throwing songs on the album that are cheesey.
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Post by WhySoSerious? on Jan 29, 2005 17:15:28 GMT -5
Pop radio has a token ballad in between the oral sex songs. Currently it's Over and Over. I said power ballads, not ballads period. They were never going to play that big overblown song because it's not 1996 anymore.
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Post by Arson on Jan 29, 2005 18:51:12 GMT -5
"ADHC" actually shocked me by peaking Top 30 at Pop... because ballads were out and this particular ballad was sooo sappy that I don't even think it would have done *as* well as her other songs even if it was released at her peak. "I'm Alive" would have been a better lead single, though I'm not at all saying it would have seen her return to her old success. "Right In Front Of You" should have followed that up as the next single. Then Celine went on to make like how many new novelty albums with repeated songs on them? I'm glad she didn't choose "I'm Alive" as the first single, because that song sounded tired and like a second rate version of "That's the Way It Is". As "sappy" as ANDHC was, it did sound more fresh and took advantage of the brief resurgence the Enya sound had at the time. "I'm Alive" did poorly on pop as the second single, and is hardly played now on AC. I have to agree with your comment on the recent albums with repeated songs on them, which is simply unforgivable. How hard is it to go into the studio and record another three or four songs so the albums are actually completely new? Even if they have to be covers (though I would prefer not). I would think there are a million songs available for Celine Dion, and she just has to choose the right one which sound fresh but not too out there. With proper promotion from Sony (I'm not holding my breath), she could have more consistent success on the radio. At least then, she wouldn't have songs that even fail on AC, like "Beautiful Boy".
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Post by jmason on Jan 31, 2005 13:19:41 GMT -5
Delilah played BB last night, maybe lots of parnets with boys will call up and so she will play it again and again!
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Post by johnm1120 on Jan 31, 2005 14:29:42 GMT -5
Delilah played BB last night, maybe lots of parnets with boys will call up and so she will play it again and again!
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Post by jmason on Feb 1, 2005 13:17:18 GMT -5
On mediabase BB has like 82 stations, compared to like 32 two weeks ago, or is that jump because Delilah played it?
People don't hate Celine, just radio. Both ANDHC and IDAN hit #2 on Open House Party's most requested.
IDAN got 80 adds on POP in two weeks, but those 80 stations didn't play it enough so it peaked at #27 I think.
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Post by johnm1120 on Feb 1, 2005 14:18:14 GMT -5
Most of those stations put her in the daytime rotation and leave her out of the 8pm-2am section which is mainly booty music on most stations.
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Post by mst3k on Feb 1, 2005 19:32:44 GMT -5
Most of those stations put her in the daytime rotation and leave her out of the 8pm-2am section which is mainly booty music on most stations. Don't you mean oral sex songs?
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Post by Jeffster on Feb 1, 2005 19:44:53 GMT -5
I heard Beautiful Boy for the first time yesterday. I really like it. I think it's her best song since "At Last." :)
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